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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: incandescent

@ Debarati7 - I went through all the posts in this thread. You seem to have made up your mind that Sanaya is responsible for the failure of Chhanchhan, especially since you are disagreeing with the comments that the story, screenplay, characterizations are at fault and you feel Sanaya should be held accountable for the failure of Chhanchhan and she may not be as good as people say she is.

If you feel that way, then it's your prerogative but you already seem so convinced and I don't think you intend to change your opinion any time soon. So I don't really know what to say or why you are asking this to others.

Of course it's a free forum and you can make post any topic you want...so just saying.

Although u claim to have read all my posts..but its absolutely clear that have not read them properly and came firing guns like a blind Sanaya fan..its is not the case that i have made up my mind regarding her that she is the ONLY reason...i said she was a vital part of the show so she is also responsible for the show's failure..I dnt have some pichle janam ki dushmani with her to be blaming her without a reason..😛

And yes i am convinced about my opinion as are u in stating that she is not at all in fault..And yes ofcourse it is a free forum i have the right to present my opinion as u do..

If success of a show is a team work, failure should be considered as a team work too. I agree with that. But of course, an actor can't be held responsible for screenplay or the characterization and the major reasons for the failure of CC is the story. I feel she did complete justice to whatever material she was given but the show didn't click for a variety of reasons. It happens. Not every show will be equally successful.

Ofcourse an actor cant be held responsible for bad screenplay be she definitely should be held responsible for mediocre or lets just say bad acting..which holds a major key in making a show a success or a failure..yes there were variety of reasons ..but one of them was her according to me..

Let's wait and see how her next show turns out, shall we?

After this show..i honestly have a lot of doubts..

FYI, Sanaya was the lead actress in MJHT along with Rati. In fact all the four leads had equal amount of screen space in the show.

Of course, there is no denying that Rati was the star of that show and Mayank-Nupur were more popular than Samrat-Gunjan but she was also the lead. In fact Sanaya was the only female lead in the show for a few months when Rati was out of the show.

I never said that..it shows you did not read my posts..i said she was a parallel lead..hope you understand what that means..I said Rati was better becoz she is a fantastic actress and she will be garnering more limelight even if pitched against BW actress..she has that spunk..


But post MJHT, Sanaya has emerged as the most successful among the four leads.

Yes and that is becoz of IPK..so back to square one😉

And why are you saying that the success of MJHT was not completely her credit? In fact she has openly stated Rati/Nupur was more popular when the show was on air. When has she claimed sole credit for any of her hit shows?

When did i say she claimed sole credit..😕dont make up things please.. And Rati was more popular because she was better..simple😊And MJHT was not her sole credit anyways..

Coming back to the original topic,

Reason for the unprecedented success of IPK - the magic created by Barun-Sanaya Jodi and the exceptional acting by them, fabulous ensemble cast, beautiful story and characters, great music and a job well done by the whole team. Of course the script, characterizations etc. went downhill towards the end but IPK was magic that happens once in a lifetime.

Agree with this fortunately..😊

What did IPK have which Chhanchhan didn't have - good script and characterizations. Khushi was a meatier role than Chhachhan and that show didn't allow Sanaya to showcase much of her talent. Infact all the characters in Chch are one dimensional.

Is Sanaya talented - Yes.

I did not say she isnt..Otherwise she would not have been here..

Is she the best in business -She is extremely talented, versatile, and beautiful and she is a complete package. She is one of the most renowned actresses of her generation, has a worldwide fanbase which is enviable. So if you take all of the above into consideration, she can easily be considered the best and hardly any other actress can come close to her.

I would like to ask you though, who according to you is the best in the industry since you don't think it's Sanaya. How do decide who the best in the industry is...is the number of hits and flops the criteria for it or something else?

Yeah right..so that u can start World War III😆..I dont think any actress n Tv is talented enough 😉And FYI the criteria to decide who is the best and worst has always been on the basis of hits and flops they have given..hope u know this...


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Posted: 12 years ago
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If u r in a preconceived notion that only Sanaya should be held responsible...then I am sorry. I don';t share ur opinions.
I hav given my POV on why CC didn't work for me...
Yes the show was launched with her as the face of the show and the first week TRP's r higher. It was around 1.4( which by the way is a very gud TRP for sony).
She has done her part by bringing in viewers...But the interest should be maintained by the directors having a good and a gripping story and characterizations which was def lacking in CC.
An actress can't run the show alone if other things r not good.
The story and script r the important ingredients to make any successful story...
Parvarish also had low TRP's(around 0.7-0.8)...does that mean the failure of the show is because of Sweta Tiwari's acting.
Everything contributes in a show's success or failure.
IPK is a show which hav all the ingridients in the correct measure...I never said that Sanaya alone craeted this master piece
Every cast and crew involved hav made this a huge success...
As for music is concerned...I am a music lover...and for me the BG music has to be soulful and I strongly believe music has the power to pull in viewers.It is my POV...

I hav stated my POV as u hav stated urs...

I respect your POV mam..and for the Hundredth time i did not say Sanaya is the only reason for which the show did not work...I said as she was the Lead Actress of the show and also the best actress on TV according to u..she is also responsible along with the whole team..U cant just pick her out of the bunch and say she is Doodh ki dhuli..and it was nothing wrong from her part..😆
Again this is my POV..and clearly does not match with yours..😉

Edited by Debarati7 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Sanaya's next show was very light and simple..she has to be herself n thus ppl wud say she cant act(to me she is acting well) ..lol...whereas Kushi needs more energy n active n Sanaya had to give 100percent justice to the roll..She has done fabulous job..if she picked up some romantic story lyk Drashti doing for Madhubala ppl wud hav acceptd the story..coz in those romantic stories an actress has to give too much emotions n that will always be lykd by the audience...never judge the actress if at all she is given a challenging role with gud script n storyline..Sanaya is the best and she always act well..if the story didnt click well one shud not blame the actor/actress...and the same goes with Barun also...wish them gud luck n gret future...
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Edited by incandescent - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: incandescent



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my replies are in the same colour as before😊

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Basically, we agree to disagree on everything...so there's no point in debating on this as it can go on and on. All I have to say is, time will tell. 😃

I definitely read your posts...I would request you to reread your posts.

I am not sure when you started following IPK, but I have been following news relating to IPK even before the show came on air. Payash were actually the parallel leads along with Anjali...most people know that. It came out in the initial/ pre-launch articles, but they were never given their due in the show. You can check out the old articles to find out. The parallel leads in most other shows are almost always sidelined.

I did say world war III in the first sentence...the second one was typo and has nothing to do with my general knowledge. 😆 It is useless to start a war on this. I have better things to do. I am sure you do to.

You don't have to spell it out who you're favorite actress is, it's already clear. 😆 You could have just said it from the beginning that you're not a fan of Sanaya. It really wasn't necessary to beat around the bush.

Since hits and flops are the criteria to decide who the best in business is, Sanaya has two back-to-back hits, MJHT and IPK and FYI Rati has only one hit show so far.

A flop is flop, who cares which show is bigger flop?

And yeah, if success of a show is teamwork, then MJHT was teamwork too and not an individual's credit. 😉

Chalo, it was nice debating with you.
Edited by incandescent - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I respect your POV mam..and for the Hundredth time i did not say Sanaya is the only reason for which the show did not work...I said as she was the Lead Actress of the show and also the best actress on TV according to u..she is also responsible along with the whole team..U cant just pick her out of the bunch and say she is Doodh ki dhuli..and it was nothing wrong from her part..😆
Again this is my POV..and clearly does not match with yours..😉




"she is also responsible along with the whole team..U cant just pick her out of the bunch and say she is Doodh ki dhuli..and it was nothing wrong from her part..😆"

You are clearly bashing Sanaya Irani.

Sanaya is an actress; not director or writer. She was given the role of heroine and she tried her level best, you can't work magic with hero like Farhan Khan. She can't be held responsible for their poor work. Moreover even SRK had to deal with flop films, so it happens and can be perfectly pardoned and justified, but I understand if not everyone have it in him to_ love( what am I saying😆)_ stop from basing somebody during their bad times.

People like you, who shouldered all success of IPKKND on BS, were so against continuation of IPKKND. If for them show had ended by BS's leave, than they should have left the show. They should not have signed pleas for the show to leave TV world because BS didn't have it in him to grace it with his presence (all sarcasm intended!).

Nd yes, it was her fault to choose poor show like Chanchan during her career peak.

Edited by lovelyangel - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: incandescent



Basically, we agree to disagree on everything...so there's no point in debating on this as it can go on and on. All I have to say is, time will tell. 😃
I most definitely AGREE with u here..Time is indeed telling and will tell in future..😉

I definitely read your posts...I would suggest you to reread your posts. I think you keep forgetting you have written. 😆
Yeah right ..i got it..i suggest u visit an eye specialist soon then..you r reading things which u want to an bypassing the rest😆

I am not sure when you started following IPK, but I have been following news relating to IPK even before the show came on air. Payash were actually the parallel leads along with Anjali. It came out in the initial/ pre-launch articles, but they were never given their due in the show. You can check out the old articles to find out. The parallel leads in most other shows are almost always sidelined.
Same here ..even i m not getting from when did u start following IPK..becoz right from the start it was a story of Anjali ,Arnav and Khushi with differnt title altogether..Payash was never mentioned as parallel..so dnt knw from where u got this exclusive info😛

I did say world war III in the first sentence...the second one was typo and has nothing to do with my general knowledge. 😆 It is useless to start a war on this. I have better things to do. I am sure you do to.
Oh it was typo..then i dont want to discuss too..who knows u will write sumthing like this again and come up saying it was a typo😆
You don't have to spell it out who you're favorite actress is, it's already clear. 😆 You could have just said it from the beginning that you're not a fan of Sanaya. It really wasn't necessary to beat around the bush.
FYI..i m not a fan of Rati either..trust me its not worth saying who my fav is to those who think Sanaya Irani is the best actress in the whole world..

Since hits and flops are the criteria to decide who the best in business is, Sanaya has two back-to-back hits, MJHT and IPK and FYI Rati has only one hit show, MJHT. 😃
Yes Sanaya has 2 hit shows ..and she cant be given a huge credit for either😉..She was plain lucky..to have worked with brilliant actors ..and be a part of those hits..😊

A flop is flop, who cares which show is bigger flop?
No a bigger flop is always a bigger flop..a disaster cant be compared to something average

And yeah, if success of a show is teamwork, then MJHT was teamwork too and not an individual's credit. 😉
Are you saying it was not only Sanaya's credit..but teamwork..Wow..change of heart..great to know..

Chalo, it was nice debating with you.
Same here..showed ur frustration..just to let you know..i m still open to debate🤗

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Posted: 12 years ago
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I respect your POV mam..and for the Hundredth time i did not say Sanaya is the only reason for which the show did not work...I said as she was the Lead Actress of the show and also the best actress on TV according to u..she is also responsible along with the whole team..U cant just pick her out of the bunch and say she is Doodh ki dhuli..and it was nothing wrong from her part..😆
Again this is my POV..and clearly does not match with yours..😉




"she is also responsible along with the whole team..U cant just pick her out of the bunch and say she is Doodh ki dhuli..and it was nothing wrong from her part..😆"

You are clearly bashing Sanaya Irani.

Sanaya is an actress; not director or writer. She was given the role of heroine and she tried her level best, you can't work magic with hero like Farhan Khan. She can't be held responsible for their poor work. Moreover even SRK had to deal with flop films, so it happens and can be perfectly pardoned and justified, but I understand if not everyone have it in him to_ love( what am I saying😆)_ stop from basing somebody during their bad times.

People like you, who shouldered all success of IPKKND on BS, were so against continuation of IPKKND. If for them show had ended by BS's leave, than they should have left the show. They should not have signed pleas for the show to leave TV world because BS didn't have it in him to grace it with his presence (all sarcasm intended!).

Nd yes, it was her fault to choose poor show like Chanchan during her career peak.



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Posted: 12 years ago
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