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Posted: 12 years ago
#21

Originally posted by: Soni22

Hi RC. Great post!👍🏼 I agree with you! They have always changed tracks due to audience demand but it always the backfired on them! The audience are also equally at fault here because of petitioning at every whim without letting the creators tell the story their own way. All this demands ruin the creative flow of the creatives and as a result they come up with half-baked plots with no flow to please the audience. I think the remarriage also happened due to audience demand; they wanted Arhi together and not seperated. I think the makers were definately heading for a separation when you look at all the symbolisms before remarriage. Also the way Arnav reacted after the past revelation and the way he spoke to Khushi after it were all pointing towards separation. So I think they changed script due to audience demand and hence remmarriage happened. But to me it didn't make any sense to me how Arnav would forget about the past so easily. I was rooting for a separation. It would have had more intensity and it would have made more sense. This time, I urge them to ignore the audience demand just this one time and tell their story. I also politely ask people to stop with all your demands and just wait and watch how this track unfolds. I feel if people keep making all these petitions you are ultimately going to get ignored one day as a result of the frustrations of the IPK writers and creatives.



Totally agree with you there...this changing of tracks and springing up random stuff has gotta stop. I really hope this lack of TRP acts as a boon.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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First Gul never wanted to tell any story lol she just writes few characters but when it comes to execution is pathetic. Talking about petitions the team does not bother about those it's just we feel they are talking our suggestions into considerations. Swami track was shown because they were feeing lazy to write during IPL and with trp being stable they were chilled out but the came the dhamaka of barun's movie they gave us never ending kidnapping track but for once I was really happy they showed khushi's point of view which they royally ignored during contract marriage, next petition was for ending DKS track they would have continued if they got expected trp's but their bad luck we fans were supported with 2.3 trp and with channel behind their back they ended.
Coming to this new track personally I hate it I want to see a love story this kid angle sounds interesting but it's too depressing and again they will make khushi bali ka Bakra if at all arav is arnav's son they will ruin the equation, I don't blame arnav this is an past incident but again khushi will has to pay the price,suppose khushi accepts arav and supports arnav in talking his responsibility how will the kid react,khushi will be given a tag of other women he will question sheetal that if arnav is his father why he is staying with khushi, how will arnav handle this situation,how will khushi feel her insecurity will reach new heights so in all this is a mess and to handle such tracks you need to plan a lot and Seeing past records thats a impossible task for IPK creatives.
I too want old arhi that passion but why such tracks there are soo many ways I have always said arhi don't need anyone else to create problem for them, they themselves are enough.Show how they adjust, their ego clashes I would love to see arnav making khushi responsible,independent khushi but they are stuck with idiotic stories and bring some random characters.
Btw nice post :)
Edited by nb2011 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#23

Originally posted by: jusah



When a kid outside marriage is involved, there is no way a perfect solution can be found without hurting at least one/more persons involved.


What if the kid wants his mama and papa together?
What if sheetal wants Arnav with her, as she has borne the society's questions alone so far? After all it is also Arnav's responsibility...

You see, there is no solution possible ... Typical Hindi moie will take a turn - where sheetal will turn a real vamp and gets killed in the end ,
or she will suffer from some terminal disease... etc. etc...



Either way, it will butcher Arnav's character, who had seen some tragedy 5 years back , was driven out of his house and had to rebuild his life , but he just involved with his class-mate.


One more point is -- just because something can happen, we don't want it to be the part of story. Do we? It is possible that Arnav meets with an accident, and becomes invalid for life ... total paralysis in lower body ... Now their love is tested and Khushi will take care of Arnav , will take care of his business ... etc.. etc.. Possible . But do we want such story? No. What we have is a beautiful , unique love story , let it remain that way ... we don't want to explore the complex equations of human life where sometimes no one is wrong , yet the circumstances are so wrong , that they may not be corrected and then there is celebration of maturity in emotions, taking things as they are and compromise the things thinking that real life is different than reel life ... We don't want those serious stuff here, even if the world is against them , even if there is MU or fighting going on , we want them to over come those and their perfect bliss always !


Agree. I too don't want Sheetal's track to move like the typical Hindi movies
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Posted: 12 years ago
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i am not debating anything just ditto @ fairy liquid soap ,the gist being i just want some pure romance and a blast from the past in the shape of a kid just doesn't cut it for me.secondly ditto @ delicious bs when she asks that have petitions or disliking of tracks really changed anything from the maker's side ? far as i can tell they've done and shown whatever they've wanted to and any changes have come due only to their own constraints and rarely due to viewer feedback.
as for intensity and passion ...except in fits and starts ...and so called "you'll love it "
tracks ...never encountered really . my pov, that's all.

also @ jusah , your last para ...well put indeed and agree .
Edited by annieK - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#25

Originally posted by: FairyLiquidSoap

RCji😊

Call me a hypocrite call me a sellout

I watch this serial for 22mts/5 to get some light hearted entertainment and a torrid romance develop between TVdom's most electrifying onscreen couple whose antics were once so scorching that I who never see Indian soaps ended up investing time energy and efforts in actually wanting to share my views on a platform such as IF

I have seen and experienced pain sorrow grief and loss in my own life and in those near to me and I watch for some respite from the ugliness of life and reality Label me an escapist viewer if you like but I like to watch a love story unfold and not a Man Woman And Child sort of scenario unfolding- have read the book seen the movie and honestly never was impressed enough even by the so called Western /Hollywood yardstick so you can imagine my horror over the thought of the mindless butchery Indian soap creatives are capable of inflicting on us and going by the track record of this PH high time we all stopped having any expectations all said and done this is a soap and the TRPs while not being published publicly will still be available on the inside and they know what is expected and will act accordingly

We have to cease viewing this serial from the prism of our own cultural upbringings and exposure that has helped shape our own thinking from the other countries we come from and stop demanding characters to behave from that perspective as well as our own personal expectations of how KKG ASR should act

On paper the idea of this track sounds promising but this is not Western Television this is for Asian audience who want drama and excitement and justice for the female lead ( a point that has eluded this serials makers ergo low TRPs but that's another issue altogether) so while that raging post on the potential promise of this track made for great reading will not apply here as the targeted segment of this serial will never accept anything else and end of the day pleasing that viewership is what will be paramount

I am no feminist malenist but an equal opportunist and believe in life love and pursuit of happiness irrespective of gender This serial has brought out an unhealthy militant need in me to constantly fight for the female character such has been her pathetic portrayal over the last couple of months

I am tired of seeing just one character always playing second fiddle to another First it was girlfriend then his sister then his past and now a blast from his past with a living walking talking proof of an ad that condoms don't work all the time

I don't want to see scenes of domestic bliss all the time but at the same time don't want to see cringe worthy track of child becoming a bone of contention between 2 women

Instead of a Didi Ka Sauth we are being given now a Biwi Ka Sauth Is this what this once passionate intense love story has become?
Why cannot something be shown from her side of life also? She too must surely be having her own baggage and history but the way the creatives have gone about is pathetic they have whitewashed her side of the story and its always about his pain his actions and her reactions to it I would have loved her walking out of the contract marriage or a separation of sorts They overplayed their hand in the marriage track bit and doubt they would have survived another round for whatever was left off the viewership would have certainly deserted them leaving them open to the ignominy of a cancellation

I got an interesting insight with one of the TRP generating aunties who lives down my lane when I went to visit their house for Navratri during IPKKND slot time and she said she felt very dissatisfied with the way the female lead was shown no not her comedy or OTT😲 for believe it or not they enjoy SI a lot for that and adore KKG's antics but her life her family and her own history She said some serial that airs at 9.30 shows life on both sides of the leads family and isn't that what life is all about and why is it always so one sided and then she proceeded to change the channel to child bride.

I did not mention my closet addiction to this serial

I would have loved a jealousy track albeit without issues from a rubber tear or lack of it so sue me if sound like a wuss as after all this has been touted as a love story

My view she should have been shown leaving him then the truth of the past coming out a separation Shyams games her fathers story his wooing anjalis unraveling of her husbands duplicity all enough to keep the serial going for at least some time and they should have ended it with the wedding track instead of foisting a track done to death a million times with the same result

Now having said that I am mature and worldly wise enough to not even ever bother to allow the matter of his chastity or the lack of it remotely cross my mind and was chuckling when it actually became a raging debate But soon realized that these were written by young ones who have no life experience and immediately felt quite a bit alarmed as obviously many of these posts were written by minors and the thought of them being influenced here in their formative years by the kind of mature content here is unsettling for one as I shudder to think of some regressive thinking posts here has given me cause for alarm and do not find anything humorous in that

Sigh RC all I want is some romance too much to ask?

G has now gone zzz and moved on for I doubt she would have given a track where her obsessions character is open to taint and questions

Awesome post and I agree about with those aunties lol cv' never showed khushi's past her story I so wanted to see insecurities how she deals with them :(
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Posted: 12 years ago
#26
If I could give you a tackle hug, I actually would for making this post.

So for now I am sending a virtual one your way ;)

No, but seriously, much needed post.

Gul, show your story, and stop giving into the demands that change every day.

Viewers, stop interfering and watch the story.

Edited by Krani - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#27

Originally posted by: Rockerchic



Err,, I stand corrected.😆

Gulji found her new boy toy.

no infact the other story will focus mostly on the girl. It will be a love triangle between two brothers & a girl.
As far as tracks are concerned, i think we never gave cv chance to explore them properly cos believe it or not, they count on audience reaction towards a track . Hum to tehre ipkknd fans, kuch bhi dikhaoge, kam hi par jaata hai. Have you seen reaction yesterday when the spoiler hit the forum.For once, i would love Cv to ignore petitions, & narrate their story as they decided. The over reaction & lack of patience of fans that brought ipkknd with tracks which had no proper end. Too much interference just kill the story...
Edited by innocentgreen - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: FairyLiquidSoap

RCji😊

Call me a hypocrite call me a sellout Scoff, as if

I watch this serial for 22mts/5 to get some light hearted entertainment and a torrid romance develop between TVdom's most electrifying onscreen couple whose antics were once so scorching that I who never see Indian soaps ended up investing time energy and efforts in actually wanting to share my views on a platform such as IF

FLS- That boat sailed a long time back. Yes they were absolutely electrifying. Yes they made my toe curl. But lately i've felt 'Sarun' haven't been able to weave their magic. But you hit the nail on the head, it people like YOU, friends like you, that make me watch IPK these days. Honestly if it weren't for IF i would have quit this ship wreck a log time back.


And i don't think 'light hearted' romance will ever do it because it's already ruined and i don't want them to also ruin the better memories of it ergo i atleast want some solid entertainment.


Of all the shitty tracks, this one seems to be better.

I have seen and experienced pain sorrow grief and loss in my own life and in those near to me and I watch for some respite from the ugliness of life and reality Label me an escapist viewer if you like but I like to watch a love story unfold and not a Man Woman And Child sort of scenario unfolding- have read the book seen the movie and honestly never was impressed enough even by the so called Western /Hollywood yardstick so you can imagine my horror over the thought of the mindless butchery Indian soap creatives are capable of inflicting on us and going by the track record of this PH high time we all stopped having any expectations all said and done this is a soap and the TRPs while not being published publicly will still be available on the inside and they know what is expected and will act accordingly

But nothing about IPK is in anyway 'real'. Even if we go ahead with this track i don't think it's going to be as dramatically bad/sad/real as people make it out to be. This is IPK we're talking about.

We have to cease viewing this serial from the prism of our own cultural upbringings and exposure that has helped shape our own thinking from the other countries we come from and stop demanding characters to behave from that perspective as well as our own personal expectations of how KKG ASR should act

On paper the idea of this track sounds promising but this is not Western Television this is for Asian audience who want drama and excitement and justice for the female lead ( a point that has eluded this serials makers ergo low TRPs but that's another issue altogether) so while that raging post on the potential promise of this track made for great reading will not apply here as the targeted segment of this serial will never accept anything else and end of the day pleasing that viewership is what will be paramount

I can't argue with this point FLS. You're right i cannot gauge how the conservative indian audience will react. RC thinks it's a good plot.

I am no feminist malenist but an equal opportunist and believe in life love wuss and pursuit of happiness irrespective of gender This serial has brought out an unhealthy militant need in me to constantly fight for the female character such has been her pathetic portrayal over the last couple of months

I am tired of seeing just one character always playing second fiddle to another First it was girlfriend then his sister then his past and now a blast from his past with a living walking talking proof of an ad that condoms don't work all the time

I don't want to see scenes of domestic bliss all the time but at the same time don't want to see cringe worthy track of child becoming a bone of contention between 2 women

Instead of a Didi Ka Sauth we are being given now a Biwi Ka Sauth Is this what this once passionate intense love story has become?
I think this track has the potetial of bringing back the passion. Because it's centered about Arnav and khushi It will be interesting to see how it plays out. I've reselved myself to the fact that Khushi suffering is non-negotiable, i'd rather be entertained while they're at it. Shallow much? Only because there isn't much depth to this show.
Why cannot something be shown from her side of life also?My number one problem. but this was is and will always be Arnav's story as SEEN by Khuhsi. She too must surely be having her own baggage and history but the way the creatives have gone about is pathetic they have whitewashed her side of the story and its always about his pain his actions and her reactions to it I would have loved her walking out of the contract marriage or a separation of sorts They overplayed their hand in the marriage track bit and doubt they would have survived another round for whatever was left off the viewership would have certainly deserted them leaving them open to the ignominy of a cancellation

I got an interesting insight with one of the TRP generating aunties who lives down my lane when I went to visit their house for Navratri during IPKKND slot time and she said she felt very dissatisfied with the way the female lead was shown no not her comedy or OTT😲 for believe it or not they enjoy SI a lot for that and adore KKG's antics but her life her family and her own history She said some serial that airs at 9.30 shows life on both sides of the leads family and isn't that what life is all about and why is it always so one sided and then she proceeded to change the channel to child bride.

What do you know maybe there is a child down the lane who thinks WE are the TRP aunties. 😆 At the end of the day the main audience is female and unfortunately Miss Gul doesn't seem to grasp this.

I did not mention my closet addiction to this serial

Wuss

I would have loved a jealousy track albeit without issues from a rubber tear or lack of it so sue me if sound like a wuss as after all this has been touted as a love story Now what gave you that wild idea?

My view she should have been shown leaving him then the truth of the past coming out a separation Shyams games her fathers story his wooing anjalis unraveling of her husbands duplicity all enough to keep the serial going for at least some time and they should have ended it with the wedding track instead of foisting a track done to death a million times with the same resultWould have's, could have's and should have's FLS. the only people to actually put any thought into this show is probably us. the creatives don't see to give two hoots.

Now having said that I am mature and worldly wise enough to not even ever bother to allow the matter of his chastity or the lack of it remotely cross my mind and was chuckling when it actually became a raging debate But soon realized that these were written by young ones who have no life experience and immediately felt quite a bit alarmed as obviously many of these posts were written by minors and the thought of them being influenced here in their formative years by the kind of mature content here is unsettling for one as I shudder to think of some regressive thinking posts here has given me cause for alarm and do not find anything humorous in that

You reckon they'll think it's okay to make babies before you're 35 and settled?Let them be FLS. Have you seen some of the other disturbing stuff they show in cartoons? I shudder.

Sigh RC all I want is some romance too much to ask?

Why do you think this track won't have any? The olny reason i'm even for it is because i am hoping against all odds that we get some dhak-dhak inducing, hyperventilating, rabba-ve.

G has now gone zzz and moved on for I doubt she would have given a track where her obsessions character is open to taint and questions

True that.

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Krani

If I could give you a tackle hug, I actually would for making this post.


So for now I am sending a virtual one your way ;)

No, but seriously, much needed post.

Gul, show your story, and stop giving into the demands that change every day.

Viewers, stop interfering and watch the story.


We should just petition for no petitions. Bas.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: kookie2020

RC Brilliant post my dear.

Kookie thinks that now Gul is least bothered with the show.
Boss Lady has already abandoned the old baby for the new one.
She promised us a "beautiful track " to unfold after the forced phucked up marriage .
Did any one see that beautiful track unfold or have I been living in some LaLa land and watching some other show?
Boss lady is herself vacillating between a phangirl and a basher these days and her new interview just killed it.
I do not accept it.
BAS.
Screw acceptance.



WORD kookie WORD.

She thinks she's making everyone happy. she's wrong.

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