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Posted: 12 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: chillygirl

Hey Rima
As I said in some other post, I really don't know how I feel abt this track. Yes, it has loads of potential but the deciding factor would be its treatment and to he honest I have no faith in the cvs after the way they handled or rather Mis-handled previous tracks. A love-child is a really serious and delicate issue and cannot be but brushed under the rug once the track runs its due course. If aarav is not arnav's child then their is no problem but if he is then it is a long-term thing which has to be sustained through out the show henceforth coz he can't just disappear like bubbli after crating havoc in arhi's lives and I don't think so the cvs are competent enough to handle it delicately.

Now coming to the ethical part of it. Niether am I married not in love with someone so I really can't say how one should react in such situations but ill say this that accepting aarav or not is khushi's decision and she would be correct in choosing anything but arnav cannot be held responsible for a mistake he did before he even met khushi. What I mean is that calling arnav cheater and characterless is totally wrong.


Bang on...
I seriously doubt CV'scredibility of handling this sensitive track...but will try and be patient coz I have no choice as I am hopelessly addicted..
lavanya's exit was the only one graciously handled by the CV's..
Shyam's poorly executed exit was a like a final nail on the coffin for me to infer the deteriorating quality of the CV's..

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Posted: 12 years ago
#32
Rima jee,
Frankly I have no issues with this track right now if it is executed properly and CV's give us a proper intense track.
My only problem is- Will CV's be able to handle something like this sensitive issue maturely and give justice to this track?

They already made a mockery of Suicide , Forced/contract marriage/kidnapping track.
Will they handle this issue maturely or will they screw up again?
The only track which they did justice to was Lavanya's graceful exit and Payaash wedding track.
Now what next?
Frankly I don't know about this petition thing so I dont know what is going on.
Plus I agree with the moral policing here.




Edited by kookie2020 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#33
Hi rima diii yaar i just say one thing before we make pentition i think thz time we gv chance to cv,s yaar,,,
and just hope 4 the best,,
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Posted: 12 years ago
#34
Great post rima.. While it is silly to talk about character when it relates to A's life before he even knew K...I find it even funnier that some people are making an issue out of people's reactions,which are innocent and naive maybe but certainly not worth derision .This is like moral policing of the other kind where it's so cool to be blas and woe betide anyone who disagrees...
Further I am older and realistic and accepting of such things but frankly cannot stomach the idea of a child from a previous liaison in the life of A and K...do people even realise the havoc this can create in a real life situation...and in such a young marriage as theirs and from the perspective of a dreamy love story it's clearly not warranted.
Edited by annieK - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#35
😊 Rimu, as usual ur post covers almost everything ..i have nothing more to add. Yes, the double standard bit really gets on my nerves. We are striving hard for both of them to be equals. What is fair for one cannot be unfair for the other.

Petitions well, we did it when we thought it was really necessary..But there are many off-late i agree. And constantly bombarding the cvs with demands also is too much..They might think we are fed up with the show. Truly, we need to have some patience too, as the cvs know the audience mind set by now. They'll not play around.
Live and let live. Totallly! 👍🏼
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Posted: 12 years ago
#36
KHushi's integrity was questions time an agin right from Arnav calling hr a gold digger, to chracterless to Dadi accusing her etc, though she was spotless clean. But when it comes to the man every thing is fine, they can come out of any mess, evn if they have n number of affairs.Such double standards.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#37
I just dont want ARAV to be ASR's son, because to me it will detract from the specialness of ARSHI having kids together for the FIRST time!
I do NOT condone casual sex, nor flings or even necessarily "Live in"'s just for a heck of it! (some people live together for years in the west and last longer than some marriages). I am talking about just living with anyone and everyone for the "Heck" of it!
BUT, realistically I am willing to accept ASR as a man with a past! He is not like Khushi, who comes from a different value system! It was ALWAYS shown that his value system clashed with her, and even with his OWN family! He didnt beleive in committment and love etc! Therefore THIS sort of incident from his past is "Consistant" with the charachter sketch of an M & B Hero, which is what he is modeled on!
IF Khushi were to have a past, then I would feel just as bad that a "Kid" is coming between ARSHI or into their lives to cause issues! However, I dont judge Sheetal, because she is an Un-wed Mother! It takes guts to give birth to a child without a father present! IF indeed that is what she did, then I dont look down on her! I dont judge Lavanya for being willing to live with ASR! She thought that was a GOOD decision for her, and entry into a Rich man's life, until Khushi made her see that she can do BETTER than just be a live in GF for a period until ASR tires of her, and bought home two "younger" models to replace her one day! :)
Saying that ASR and Khushi BOTH have to be virgins for their love story to be PURE is a phallacy! Love is not about "Physical purity" or LACK thereof! I dont judge anyone who WANTS to wait for love and committment before getting physical, and I dont judge those who DONT either! I just dont beleive that having "Causal Sex" is a good thing, as I beleive SEX should be had in the context of some sort of relationship with feelings! BUT some dont agree! They think it is a physical act! I think it is also emmotional or SHOULD be! Sex is not a game and has far reaching consequences!
AS ASR will realize, this "Encounter" with Sheetal in collage may COST him more than it was EVER worth, and it may effect his relationship with the women he adores! Therefore he will have to "Restrospect" on the wisdom of some of his choices!
Lets wait and see WHAT they want to show, before we petition anyone! I also PEREFER if Aarav is NOT ASR's son! I think the fact that he COULD be will be good enough to do the damage the CV's want!!! (Without going down the FULL path)!!
Edited by MrDarcyfan - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#38

You ask what is the hue and cry about petitions. Once in a while a petition is okay, but picking every little thing, every little fault of the CVs, scrutinizing it before it's even played out, making your own theories, going against something that can be very good for the show..and making a petition every few weeks is very annoying. A lot of us come to the forum for entertainment and to engage in discussions about the episodes and what we like in them/dislike, we don't want to see petitions all over the first page. The track has potential..Everyone's just making a huge cry about Aarav "possibly" being ASR's kid when the track JUST STARTED! All we're asking is to give it time. If Aarav is ASR's kid, even though I still believe he isn't, then whatever man. No one is a saint in the world and I would accept it. ASR isn't perfect nor is Khushi. Simple as that. I see potential in the track both ways, if ASR is the father, and if he isn't! These petitions do cause CVs to alter and rush the tracks, and I feel a lot of people are actually liking the track atm, minus a minority. WE all know how the past was wrapped up so fast-_________- which was utter disappointment! SO please for the love of God, don't let these petitions about ASR being the dad, alter what could be such a good track for us and the main leads in the show :)


"Those seeking support for Arnav's causal sex and illegitimate child, I ask them would you bear the same for Khushi?"

^ Simple answer to that. I would bear the same for Khushi too, if she was in the given situation as ASR. Hell, this world is made up of imperfect people. NO ONE is perfect in this world no matter how you may imagine it. If Khushi had a flaw like that, I would accept it whole heartedly...people make mistakes in life and if Aarav is Arnav's son, then he made one too. That's what makes the characters realistic- the fact that they have flaws or made mistakes.

Rima, what I don't understand is... People may PM you to make petitions and what not. But why should you speak on their behalf as a spokesperson? If its really a democracy, shouldn't they make their own posts on their petitions? Why do you always have to go and do it? That doesn't make it a democracy really, makes it a dictatorship. The fact that you always mention that people are making you make a petition makes it feel like you're doing the rest of the world a favor. If people have a problem, buck up , make a post. No ones gonna bite the member. The creatives are going to do what they want to at the end of the day- they have the creative liberty...Fans, as an audience, should mention their likes/dislikes about the tracks in a discussion post, not turn to petitions at the very start of a track. Whats the point of this show when the audience refuses to see potential storylines to the story? Might as well end the show as there will be no story.


PS: Let me just mention before my comment gets taken in the wrong light, I'm not attacking you. I'm just answering your queries and giving my two cents :)


Edited by anitamalik - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#39

Originally posted by: anitamalik


You ask what is the hue and cry about petitions. Once in a while a petition is okay, but picking every little thing, every little fault of the CVs, scrutinizing it before it's even played out, making your own theories, going against something that can be very good for the show..and making a petition every few weeks is very annoying. A lot of us come to the forum for entertainment and to engage in discussions about the episodes and what we like in them/dislike, we don't want to see petitions all over the first page. The track has potential..Everyone's just making a huge cry about Aarav "possibly" being ASR's kid when the track JUST STARTED! All we're asking is to give it time. If Aarav is ASR's kid, even though I still believe he isn't, then whatever man. No one is a saint in the world and I would accept it. ASR isn't perfect nor is Khushi. Simple as that. I see potential in the track both ways, if ASR is the father, and if he isn't! These petitions do cause CVs to alter and rush the tracks, and I feel a lot of people are actually liking the track atm, minus a minority. WE all know how the past was wrapped up so fast-_________- which was utter disappointment! SO please for the love of God, don't let these petitions about ASR being the dad, alter what could be such a good track for us and the main leads in the show :)


"Those seeking support for Arnav's causal sex and illegitimate child, I ask them would you bear the same for Khushi?"

^ Simple answer to that. I would bear the same for Khushi too, if she was in the given situation as ASR. Hell, this world is made up of imperfect people. NO ONE is perfect in this world no matter how you may imagine it. If Khushi had a flaw like that, I would accept it whole heartedly...people make mistakes in life and if Aarav is Arnav's son, then he made one too. That's what makes the characters realistic- the fact that they have flaws or made mistakes.

Rima, what I don't understand is... People may PM you to make petitions and what not. But why should you speak on their behalf as a spokesperson? If its really a democracy, shouldn't they make their own posts on their petitions? Why do you always have to go and do it? That doesn't make it a democracy really, makes it a dictatorship. The fact that you always mention that people are making you make a petition makes it feel like you're doing the rest of the world a favor. If people have a problem, buck up , make a post. No ones gonna bite the member. The creatives are going to do what they want to at the end of the day- they have the creative liberty...Fans, as an audience, should mention their likes/dislikes about the tracks in a discussion post, not turn to petitions at the very start of a track. Whats the point of this show when the audience refuses to see potential storylines to the story? Might as well end the show as there will be no story.


PS: Let me just mention before my comment gets taken in the wrong light, I'm not attacking you. I'm just answering your queries and giving my two cents :)



Hats off to this post 👏 👏

I've been ranting just the same. And if I can see it correctly, many others who would normally support the petition are also not agreeing to the same. It is because maybe many are seeing the potential this track has. Repeatedly making petitions, threatening and demanding, coming in the way of their work, is going to paint a wrong picture in front of them. They'll assume we are frustrated and they might wanna give up on the show it self.

Coming to if we would support Khushi if she were in Arnav's place. YES we would. Such situations can arise in anyone's life. Arnav is not cheating on Khushi. He has only LOVED one woman and that is her. And after that realization and their marriage Arnav isn't ever going to compromise on their relation. We all know how ASR is when it comes to morals, all because of his past. Hypothetically even if Aarav does turn out to be Arnav's son, don't you think if he'd have known he has a son he would take the responsibility? He never believed in marriages, and if he did have an affair before he got married it shouldn't be surprising.

If we think logically and with a foresight they cannot make the kid a permanent part of the story. To highlight ArHi's story they wont have Arnav's first kid not be Khushi's. Initially whatever they might make us believe its obvious it wont be the truth when the track concludes.

It's just disheartening for all those who really want to see a track develop to see so much negativity for the track even before its been laid out in front of us. If the track was dragged endlessly and was ruining episodes I would understand the need of this hue and cry. But its amusing that we're being so impulsive when the track hasn't even started yet.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#40

Originally posted by: Ankita.M


Hats off to this post 👏 👏

I've been ranting just the same. And if I can see it correctly, many others who would normally support the petition are also not agreeing to the same. It is because maybe many are seeing the potential this track has. Repeatedly making petitions, threatening and demanding, coming in the way of their work, is going to paint a wrong picture in front of them. They'll assume we are frustrated and they might wanna give up on the show it self.

Coming to if we would support Khushi if she were in Arnav's place. YES we would. Such situations can arise in anyone's life. Arnav is not cheating on Khushi. He has only LOVED one woman and that is her. And after that realization and their marriage Arnav isn't ever going to compromise on their relation. We all know how ASR is when it comes to morals, all because of his past. Hypothetically even if Aarav does turn out to be Arnav's son, don't you think if he'd have known he has a son he would take the responsibility? He never believed in marriages, and if he did have an affair before he got married it shouldn't be surprising.

If we think logically and with a foresight they cannot make the kid a permanent part of the story. To highlight ArHi's story they wont have Arnav's first kid not be Khushi's. Initially whatever they might make us believe its obvious it wont be the truth when the track concludes.

It's just disheartening for all those who really want to see a track develop to see so much negativity for the track even before its been laid out in front of us. If the track was dragged endlessly and was ruining episodes I would understand the need of this hue and cry. But its amusing that we're being so impulsive when the track hasn't even started yet.


Ditto, both of these posts echo my sentiments.
The Cvs have a chance to show a really mature track with a lot of drama that wont take away fom the love betweeen the two. They will most likely go down the safe route but it's still plausible. Nothing worn with pointing out the other side.
Edited by McNinja - 12 years ago

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