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Posted: 13 years ago
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Happy birthday Sanya may all your wishes and dreams come true



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Thats day Arnav joked

Ek baar meine haath chod diya to dubara nah pakdunga (pardon my hindi english)
that had rattled her

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Today Khushi said

ret ke tarah hum aaki unglio ke beech se nikal jayange
aur mauka miltehi etni tezzi se bhagange ke aap hume dhund hi nahi payange
That rattled him the same way it had rattled khushi


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Both cannot contemplate life wihtout each other
if they have to part in future how will they survive
Edited by chowna - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Waiting for your Crooner Priya 🤗
Loved today's episode...it's going to be an exciting ride ahead 👍🏼
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Posted: 13 years ago
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hey priya sweetie!!!!🤗

Brilliant Crooning!!!! 👏👏 darun lekha hoyeche as usual!!!! love the title and ur quotes are awesome and absolutely apt !!! loved ur Time travellers Journey...u have beautifully expressed the scene in words !!! woodwa ve and tree babies...ab aur kya boloon!!!😆 your address to the cvs and the jarring points perfect...even i felt the transition from lighter moment to the serious was too sudden and BDs...they love to focus on the hands chahe actor ho ya BD...consistency and continuity are really not important!!!!😕

loved the pics!!!

coming to the epi...typical IPK ishtyle mein we alternated between the love story and the confrontation!!!! i was ok with the epi...thanks to the garden scene and the confrontation scene was ok!!!!

Passing the Parcel & Punishment

Arnav manages to trick khushi and she loses...her punishment...she is blindfolded, a moustache is drawn and is brought back to the hall...mooche ho toh nathulal jaisi ho warna na ho...aur aisi mooch aap ko logon ki buri nazar se bhi bachata hai...as per Mr. Raizada!!!!😆😆 khushi gets angry and we get to see tom and jerry in action...running around the hall with khushi chasing arnav...only to collide with dadi!!!

G & D face to face

finally garima and dadi meet bringing back all the old memories of their last meeting years ago!!!! so arnav's dad lied abt his marital status and garima was unaware that he is a married man with kids...he cheated on his wife and the same happened to his daughter...he has a damaad who is just like him...children paying for their father's sins!!!!!!!

dadi continues blaming garima without giving her a chance to explain!!!! and she decides that khushi and payal are going to pay for their mother's actions!!!! she calls off arnav and khushi's wedding!!!!

Arnav-Khushi & Garden of Love

Khushi is upset with arnav for the prank he played on her and tells him that next time she will run away and he won't be able to find her...this upsets arnav and he makes her promise never to say anything like that again!!!! both of them are scared of loosing the other...and even the mere mention of it makes them upset!!!! arnav has been slowly but steadily opening himself to khushi...telling her things that he can't speak to any other not even the most important person in his life...his di!!!!

Today was one more step in unravelling the arnav behind the ASR!!! arnav takes khushi to a place closet to his heart where his mom had started a garden which is now tended by him...the garden of love and happiness as here he remembers the happier moments of his life with his mother!!!! a place he has been visiting since he lost her!!!! impatient he ever is...main aur patience rakhoon...so true but he had to...to live again!!!! khushi realising his passion for gardening...a trait inherited from his mom and also something which makes him feel close to his mom!!!!

Arnav's accepting khushi as his wife...priya even i found that awkward as its always been shown that for arnav khushi is his wife and all this is being done for social acceptance and khushi's happiness!!! "tum aaj se meri patni ho...meri ma ki bahu." he has always considered khushi as his wife but today he got the girl he loves to his mother...and for him accepting that relation in presence of his mother is far more sacred than the riti-rasame...and khushi also realises this!!!!

Hamar Pointwas

1. loved buaji, Nk and mami's dance in BG!!!!👍🏼

2. mami doing hai re nandkishore and buaji going...hello hi bye bye!!!! loved it!!!!😃

3. arnav walking away while dadi speaks to khushi...is it possible?? iss editing ko kya naam doon???😕

4. what was the point of showing shyamu gloating for so many times??? i seriously got tired watching him...the whole confrontation would have been so much better without him!!!🤢🤢🤢

5. phones left behind...itna focus matlab kuch toh hoga!!!

6. "Arnav"...loved how khushi said his name...hope he soon tells her to call him the same!!!!😳

7. thank god wasn't thinking too much abt the blindfold and punishment but still trying to understand that this was the best arnav could think of!!!!😆😆

no precap...still looking forward...can we get less of gloaty face...we understood what he is feeling...don't need to have him in our face all the time!!!!😡😡

Edited by soni.b - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: honeypriya

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Priya!

A very poignant crooner .. loved the use of the quotes .. each were apt .. but the Neruda one of course deserves special mention. Loved the picture you used for the tree lovers .. you too noticed the cottage, naa? 😆
I am on the run .. so will just leave a quick comment in the crooner today. I, in weeks, in fact, had no major issues with the episode. Somehow the episode worked for me perfectly .. only if they showed Shyam's gloating face a little less, it would have been a ten. Well, I actually LOVED the episode. Somehow I did not even notice the BDs during the first watch; I noticed that coloured tattoo though but I was already too lost in the magic! Since they drove into the green haven, I was completely lost in the story - it seemed so unreal, so fairytale like.
The face-off was well executed minus Shyam. Honestly, I was looking forward to a twisted past since IPK has been so layered all along. But I guess I will be ok as long as it is not another MU. I actually liked the face-off since it was to the point, not dragged and they balanced it nicely with the union of the two in the refuge of the greenery. Yet, the slap was a bit too much!
It is interesting how both of them are threatening each other over & over again to run away .. to slip through the fingers. But it is also interesting how they have promised not to say such .. and not ever to stay apart from the other. These two really have a twisted fate .. it will be painful yet an interesting watch to see how they face the upcoming upheaval.
The words that defined the episode for me was "Ek hone ke liye".He has been doing everything till now, in his conscious, to get her back home .. but sitting near his mother, with her blessings all he wanted was to unite with her .. to become one ' it was not only about their marital union, being under the same roof ' it was about being one for once & for all, in this world & beyond, in body & soul. Yes, accepting her as his Patni was a major glitch in the script and I too frowned when he said that. Rather, focusing only on, "Meri Maa Ki Bahu" would have instigated the magic perfectly. It was a nice touch but for me it was all about their oneness. Marriage or not, separation or not .. they are one now. The last bit that was left has been completed by Arnav by giving her the entry to his most personal space.
On a different note, as I saw him playing prank on her, I wonder how the family perceive the change in Arnav - the grumpy man is now being chased around happily by his to-be-wife. His childhood pranks are back, he is romancing his wife, he is smiling now & then '. Will they ever really question their love? Do they ever think why they did not see this side of Arnav in the first 6 months of their marriage? Well, I guess not. Just like they never bothered about the kidnap.
The ambience overall reminded me of the day Arnav & Khushi came back home after the kidnapping fiasco .. a day of union. She was in the same blue dress, he was in the same black-white .. and they were amid the same lush greenery .. On the verge of losing each other, they eventually found each other in a new light. A deja vu yet again ..
Still cannot move my thoughts away from their phone as they lie behind .. I wonder what these will lead to - a rainy romance in cottage, ignorance about the storm at home ... or something else ... I will welcome anything positive for the lovebirds. 😊
Edited by Omoraboti - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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who else but Pablo can do justice to that.



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Perfect take Priya!!! like I keep saying, you never disappoint. Agree with all your issues...believe it or not, I kept thinking of past crooners throughout the episode.. from the guffaw-worth wood and plank theories...to beauty and the beast and the grain slipping through... 👏👏👏 you must get a honorary mention in IPK I tell ya! 😃

yes, there were many issues. Apart from the technical ones like dialogue glitches and BD focus (arrey bhai BD hain.. itna close up shots kyu) 😕 , I really wanted Khushi to say something when he asks her and he asks her twice whether she trusts him and when he says 'maa ki bahu'. Maybe it was because it was their separate shots but I thought Sanaya's expressions were distinctly off-key in both the scenes. She seemed to be simply smiling and nodding her head while the scenes required indepth emoting. But birthday girl is forgiven! 😳 But her lapses were more than made up by a performer who has ceased to be one. He is simply Arnav Singh Raizada. 👏👏
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but for me all these issues were swept under the dirty RM carpet for two reasons;

one, just yesterday in crooner I was wishing and hoping that the backstory is layered and Arnav would have been a keen, intelligent child who would have perhaps gauged his father well; who would have noticed things amiss in their parents' marriage and thankfully thankfully, today, it seemed like, (i am not putting all my money there yet) but it SEEMS like Arnav's father is not the 'doodh ka dhula hua' that Dadi believes he is. That gladdened my heart so!


Second of course, the minute they stepped into that little paradise of his. Like you, I had always imagined that Arnav will have secret places of his own.. where ASR will zoom off in his SUV when upset and furious but goes to that place and becomes Arnav. I was so moved by it that I cried with him throughout that scene.

That place is really a representation of his soul, is it not? His very being. Sun-dappled, nourished with love, watered with a mother's blessing and rooted in Earth-mother, a place of great promise and great integrity and yet no one knows; totally hidden. That is him. That garden is Arnav..

I leave with this totally apt quotation from John Donne. For Arnav and Khushi who has been given the rare privilege because she is, after all, him and he is, after all, her. Ek hogaye hain.


"And into that gate they shall enter, and in that house they shall dwell, where there shall be no cloud nor sun, no darkness nor dazzling, but one equal light, no noise nor silence, but one equal music, no fears nor hopes, but one equal possession, no foes nor friends, but one equal communion and identity, no ends nor beginnings, but one equal eternity. "
Edited by mashira - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Lovely, lovely, lovely quote, hun...so in love with it!! 'Sand clock' and the hands of time...so, so poignant...

Can't wait to read your take!

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"I have for the first time found what I can truly love--I have found you. You are my sympathy--my better self--my good angel. I am bound to you with a strong attachment. I think you good, gifted, lovely: a fervent, a solemn passion is conceived in my heart; it leans to you, draws you to my centre and spring of life, wrap my existence about you, and, kindling in pure, powerful flame, fuses you and me in one."
~Charlotte Bronte, Jane Eyre


You could not have picked a better title, Priya. A masterstroke of a Crooner, hun!👏 Nobody could have captured the essence of the Crooner and the epi than the master of poetry and verse, Neruda! I thought of you quite a bit as I was watching the epi. My mind mulled over Grains of Reflection, but also to every Crooner during that same week, culminating with the boy in Frost. To some extent, I thought back to the peetal ka bhartan references, too. So much significance to all that we have discussed in this show. The epi also took me to back to that moment when he confided in her about his parents demise, and the circumstances under which it happened. For him, life has dealt its harshest cards, every bit of happiness fades away; you breathe into the mirage and it disappears. How can we forget Anjali and her baby? That scene in his room just a couple of days prior as he internalizes all that has happened to her sister. In keeping with various themes, the CVs today gave us a look into Arnav's psyche and the reason behind his strength. Quiet and ever penetrating.

Story 1

I had spoken at length about "touch" and the "nurturer" who had been so instrumental in his life when we had discussed his admission about his parents' suicide. Today, we saw the hand of the nurturer again...In that secret garden--his sanctuary...A place to connect with his mother during those moments when life would just bear down on him. A place where the impatient one would learn the virtues of patience..."Patience aur mein"... Sabr rakho, Chotey...his mother's words echo even now. The tree would provide him life's lessons he would never have otherwise learned; just loved your Karl Knausgard quote here. And giving credit where credit is due, I applaud the CVs for giving us such great metaphors for both Khushi and for Arnav. The elements at play again...One finds her solace in the stars...celestial and eternal. The other finds his peace in nature--signifying birth, rejuvenation, yet omipresent. I felt the same pang of infinite sadness as I had when I first saw them gaze at the stars together. The flashback to his past brought back that same sentiment. The sky and the earth so poignantly showcased under the clockwork of time's swift hand.

But today it was about living with and in his moment. Where he shared his most intimate secret with her. He knew she would understand. The trust and bharosa was as much for her as it is was for him, too. Today I saw the insecurity in him which hitherto I had said was not obvious to me. Today, her comment about slipping away like those very grains of sand: "reth ki tarah aapki ungliyon ke beech mein se nikal jayenge, aur mauka milte hi itni teezi se bhaagenge ke aap pakdh bhi nahi paayenge", provokes a fervent reaction and the perfect moment to open up to her. Today I saw a boy who had desperately hung on to the vestiges of his past. Imploring nature to connect him to his mother. To her presence. And what a presence she is. From the plants in his own garden at home to the first flowers he picked for his wife, we now know, indeed, his mother has always been an instrumental part of it. Through the lessons taught by her, he had already given Khushi the gifts that a mother-in-law gives her bahu. A son gives to his bride. Which is why he brought her to the one place no one else is privy to! You had spoken of Radha-Krishna's Gandharva wedding over the weekend. Today I saw semblances of the same in Arnav's words to her. All rasams and rituals aside, ab hum ek hain...visceral, complete, and in the presence of that tree--the only one that matters...Meri Ma Ki Bahu...What else do we need? The acceptance is complete without a shadow of a doubt. The Kangans and the letter will only make the significance that much more beautiful!

In turn, Khushi is right there with him, in every sense...The blindfold only reiterated that trust she now has in him. She feigns anger and reticence but she is quick to notice when his face gets serious..."Arnavji, aap teekh toh hain, na?" A baat is on his mind! Yet she doesn't push him to tell what it it...Instead she envelopes him in a hug to comfort him. In the garden she takes and breathes in every part of it just as he does. Hand in hand, his admission to her is difficult for him and she comprehends the significance of every shared moment precisely! The nurturer and caregiver in him now makes complete sense! Arnav...she whispers as she sees the carved letters on the tree...and in that moment, everything that is sacred to him is all in one place...Yes, Priya, when the time comes she will leave, but somewhere I do believe she will now know where to "find", too. She has committed herself to his love completely, but she will never forget that he needs her. Of the vow that he made to her under that very tree. It will stay with her, hamesha, come what may!

Story 2

I really don't want to get into the "woh aurat" discussion and how Garima was "revealed" to Dadi. It fell completely flat for me. I agree with you 100%: this track has been nothing short of a disaster because of the way Garima has been portrayed, and the pathetic manner in which she was kept "hidden" from Dadi. Ultimately, there was no element of surprise at all. What rectified this track was the fact that Mallik Sr is unpardonable as you said, and indeed, Arnav's words "mera faisla tab bhi sahi tha, aur aaj bhi sahi hai...tab galti dad ki thi, aur aaj Shyam ki" were the silver lining by far! For being a defining moment in the script, the execution was pathetic. Yes, the pool was spared, but a showdown in the main living area? Really? And Shyam peeping in shamelessly did nothing to redeem the situation. Thats the best the CVs can do? I also couldn't help but laugh at Dadi's finger-pointing...Wow, she just needs an excuse for a scapegoat. Nevermind that she abandoned her grandchildren completely right after the aftermath surrounding the tragic deaths, now the blame is squarely on Garima's shoulders. Subhadra devi is a poor judge of character and clearly, whatever opinion she had about Arnav and Anjali's mother holds no water for me! She doesn't think twice about doing irreparable damage to so many lives, and I cannot justify her actions because to me, she has no conscience at all!

Other thoughts~

~Satyanaash times: as much as I enjoyed Arnav's secret garden, the body double and the execution in certain parts of that scene was a complete fail for me! Mehendi, profiles, nails, body...should I go on? We are a critical juncture in the story, and you choose to play it out without the leads. Yeah, we here on IF maybe the only ones to notice, but are you aesthetically happy with what you have chosen to show? Is this the best you could do? Sobti saved that scene, fair and square.

~The mooch: wax on/wax off...Yes, she was blindfolded, but couldn't she feel him trace it on her? The nazar na lage part was cute, but are we to believe that "the" ASR would care about "nazar" and such? Really, who is our hero? He made no effort to get cosy with her after he blindfolded her, other than to ask her if she trusted him with the punishment. Really? Thats the best we get behind closed doors.

~The chase around the living room was only for Dadi's benefit, and yes, for the director's chai break...lol...Arnav disappeared in no time to get the mirror! Yes, and the change of tone from playful to serious was difficult to fathom.

~I talked about Anjali's characterization yesterday...Is this the "new" reality when it comes to her?😕 Her "past" is just that...we are to completely overlook everything... 'Nuf said!

~Chotey when he was chotey was so CUTE!! That child who plays him is just adorable!!!

~Tree babies!!! I see "wood" everywhere!😆🤣


The "tree of life" scenes belonged to Sobti. What would otherwise been subpar was made stellar only because of him. He becomes one with his character everyday, but today there was an added element of "je ne sais quoi" to his performance. The voice modulation in both the bedroom scene and in the garden, as well as the tears strictly brimming at the surface, the quiet resonance and his demeanor only made Arnav's pain that much more palpable...

Looking forward to how the rest of the week unfolds! The Power of "One" will be beautiful to watch...😊

Edited by Nandalala - 13 years ago


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Posted: 13 years ago
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Such an emotional story of ASR n Khushi...simply luv the fact how he truly wants to share his everything with her...but i hated the scenes where SIs BD was glaringly obvious to even viewers like me who didnt even catch the blooper of SI walking into ASRs office while she was inviting him on a date on the phone...

On the other front...phew!! thank God the dadi garima hide n seek came to an end today finally...i still believe Garima is not the OW n neither is the shaadi going to be stopped from happening...two ideas regarding that...one dadi agrees on the marriage thinking she'll make khushis life hell after she is permanently in the house or second which i will find more interesting is that nani has actually met the OW and so she tells everyone tis not G...aah if only IPKKND life was such simple :-)

Nehoo, bookmarking ladies :-)

P.S. Happy hatch day, Sanaya darling! You r indeed a barbie doll of indian television :-)
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Reserved.. Waiting in anticipation for another fabulous Crooner from Di :)))
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Posted: 13 years ago
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A fluke or a freak of YT nature 😳 whatever it was ... it allowed me access to IPK online !

Crooner 1.36-1.38 wonderful work Priya ... and the pics, wow, amazing creative offerings from everyone 👏...
Sobti smashed it up good and proper ... just look at him ! x
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Priya : Insightful Crooner. As I had skipped the Daadi-Garima face-off part when I read in the LU, that Daadi slapped Garima...too regressive for me😡...but your post has intrigued me about that part...so I'll brave the twitcher's snicker, and slap and Daadi's acerbic dialogs and rewatch without touching the mouse...say a prayer for me...venturing into the muck zone of Daadi and Shyam.🤢

My lovestory with your quotes continue😳...and what a title!

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"If ever you do go back, what is it you want of Evesham?"

"Do I know? ...The silence, it might be ... or the stillness. To have no more running to do ... to have arrived, and have no more need to run. The appetite changes. Now I think it would be a beautiful thing to be still."
-Ellis Peters (A Rare Benedictine)

One night last year under the sky Khushi had shared about her past and her connection to the stars'.her belief about her parents being amongst the stars. Today it was Arnav's turn to introduce Khushi to his refuge, his cocoon of comfort: a tree planted by his mom. Like Khushi holds onto her parents through hanging artificial stars over her bed, he finds solace in gardening, a love for plants; his mom's lineage. His ceremonial introduction of his bride to his Mom'His Momma's bahu

An episode that played out to Barun's strength: raw emotions. The voice breaking, eyes that were glistening from unshed tears, but speaking clearly about a little boy's impatient aspirations about future only to be forced by circumstance to grow up'but somewhere under that tree, in that garden the little boy's dreams of future again finds hope in his beloved to look forward to happiness, life.Agree with you Priya, Barun was THE Arnav Singh Raizada'all the way. I could overlook the BD issues in the scene only for this man.


An episode juxtaposed with two scenarios connecting to the past; while one was for beginning married life together, and one threatening to end the same. It started in a lighthearted manner giving a glimpse of Barun-Sanaya offscreen chemistry '. like you said , the director took much earned his tea break after the shooting those mindblowing Private Haldi scenes'

After much thinking'I deciphered my 1st IPK symbolism: The blindfold .To me was the symbolic asking " Bharosha nahin hai..?"a la CVs of its audience to trust them with whatever they're doing to our audience expectation. They kept us hyperventilating like Khushi over the weekend with sexy whisper and blindfold only to finish with an anticlimactic Mustache drawing'Come on Seriously??!...what happened to Mr Arvav "can't keep my hands off of my wife" Raizada at GH? Closed door, wife who you've been craving to kiss on lips since last Diwali in blindfold'and all you do is practice freehand on muschache drawing? tsk tsk'.

But all were forgotten with the relaxed , full on in teasing mode hubby's instantaneous change in expression to this raw pain .The insecurity of a man about losing his loved one was made so tangible through the emotional little exchange between Khushi and Arnav. Barun again nailed the scene. Other than BD issues, I also felt that the timing of Sanaya's expressions were all over the place'.editing issues in merging two independently shot sequence.

I watched The Garima-Daadi faceoff with peeping snake after reading your take, but to me it was too much of melodrama and less of kick in the gut revelation of the the ghost past affair. Daadi slapping Garima on the cheek and Garima on her knees begging for forgiveness for her daughters'a bit too regressive for me. And btw on her 1st faceoff with Arnav, she had called his mom weak for not holding her marriage together, today she put the blame entirely on Garima'Her son who inspite of being married with two kids had an affair, "lekin uska koi kasoor nahin" (Thank you Basanti's Mausiji from Sholay)!! She deserves Shyam as her partner in crime as he'll push her off her mountain of delusion to die when he's done with her!

Pota has declared wife as his Mom's bahu and Daadi has declared the wedding is off'.I don't knw what is to come'.but I'm kinda missing Shyam's sheepish look when it dawned on him he played accidental cupid to Arnav and Khushi'.can we have a 360 of that? His expressions are becoming same every episode.

Edited by GanBarunFan - 13 years ago

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