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"Say, when shall we next meet together?
Surely not in cloudy weather,
For you my boon companions dear
Come only when the sky is clear."
~Li Po

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Loved the title and the quote, Priya.👏👏 You are still updating the Crooner, but you connected your thoughts you beautifully to Crooner 50.2 where you spoke of Spring and the Uttar-Purab nexus...We had spoken extensively about Arnav Rekha, then...Look how far we've come! Even though I had mentioned it in discussions early Tuesday that Khushi might reveal her feelings, I did not expect it in yesterday's epi, but I was happy that she was spontaneous and enjoyed being in the moment. It was her moment. And it was wonderful.

But overshadowing that moment for me was that full moon as she thinks of him...It waxes and wanes just as the world turns, and our CVs have always used it to mark beginnings and endings. And so it was used today as well! As you well reminded us, they did not forget the dates--from Feb. 14 to August 14!! Genius on their part. I have had a sense of deja-vu for the last few days...and today it hit me, yet again. Then I looked at the calendar again, and you and I had spoke of the "pakshas", the Hindu lunar phases just yesterday...What started six months ago on another full moon night--Krishna Paksha, that inauspicious phase-- today was revisited, but for different reasons...


After driving around in that same SUV we saw today, these were the "vows" he made to her six months ago...

"Ab tum meri patni hoh, par sirf duniya ki nazaron mein; aur sirf che mahino ke liye. Uske baad mein tumhe azaad kar doonga. Per tab tak tum mere ghar mein mere saath meri patni ban kar rahogi. Yeh sindoor, yeh mangalsutra sirf ek samjhota hai. Na mein tumhe kabhi apni biwi manoonga, aur na biwi ka darja doonga..."

And with them said, he brought in the darkest period of their lives...As the world turned in those 6 months, so did their feelings...from Nafrat to Mohabbat...That intense hatred that had built a shell around their hearts started to crumble...He was the first one to bring his feelings in the open...the man who never once thought about feelings and emotions had made a case for them so vehemently...Ever respectful of Buaji, he stopped her from even coming close to his wife. Her niece. Whereas he had stood by & watched while Garima had slapped Khushi on that fateful night 6 mths ago, today, Arnav stood for his wife. The man who has no faith in the "institution" of marriage, the man who had told her it was just an "understanding"-samjhota-today, went back on his own words.

The man who once declared that Khushi didn't have "a character" today thwarted his grandmother's insinuation of the same. A terse reminder to her about her "society" and his: in his society, his wife is known as "Khushi Kumari Gupta Singh Raizada." His respectful wife. The man who had said he would let her go free at the end of the six months, today did everything possible to stop her from leaving, seemingly barricading her in with his words and actions! Making a case for her in front of the elders.

And yet, the man who always willed himself to write his own destiny today was willing to compromise and relent in the name of reeti rivaj, "vidhi" and "rasams" for a singular reason: His Khushi. We have to wonder: what has love done to this man? How could he agree so easily? The strength of that tenacious love cannot be underestimated, I guess. He singlehandedly declared that contract null and void to himself & to her, yet still she is not by his side. Why did I feel the presence of a bigger hand above orchestrating their lives?


"Hum bhi aap se nafrat karte hain, Mr. Raizada, kyunki aap sirf nafrat ke layak hain..."

She had spoken of intense and seemingly incurable hatred on that evening right after their wedding, dressed in yellow... Today, she waited for him...longed for him to come back to her and their bed adorned with petals. That very heart admitted what it has long known...and in such spontaneous fashion. She said she would wait for him--"hum aapka intezaar karenge..." The girl, no, woman, now, has had an awakening alright. Running away from him until the evening prior, today her heart was finally at rest. She was willing to completely accept him even before the showdown in the living room... But hearing him stand up with and for her only made her fall more deeply in love with him. And that is exactly why she said the words: "Hum bhi apse I LOVE YOU, DAMMIT"...no hesitation...just love...PURE LOVE! Loved the image of Wilde's Nightingale and the Rose quote to depict what we saw today, hun!!!👏

That smirk confirmed his reciprocated feelings completely...And with that, a seemingly beautiful phase in their lives set to begin...


"I like to see people reunited, I like to see people run to each other, I like the kissing and the crying, I like the impatience, the stories that the mouth can't tell fast enough, the ears that aren't big enough, the eyes that can't take in all of the change, I like the hugging, the bringing together, the end of missing someone."
~Jonathan Safran Foer

But I keep coming back to that moon, hun...waxing and waning...The auspicious phase--Shukla paksha ending, and that moon marking Janmashtami--in the inauspicious Krishna Paksha; heralding the birth of the destroyer of evil...even in our mythology, Krishna had a responsibility...the reason why to which he was born. While we revel in the timeless and eternal story of Radha-Krishna, the Lord had a bigger purpose. Today, I felt their love would be eclipsed by what is coming...the antecedents...the shadows of the past looming into the forefront. Starting with that contract, and then moving down the ravine of memories...I don't think the contract is null and void. In fact, for me, it is the Pandora's Box, especially now that the family has insisted on a re-marriage. There are too many questions, and answers left unanswered. The talk of pheras brought it back into the light, and the why! behind the contract has yet to be revealed, and more importantly destroyed. Furthermore, the maligning of Khushi's "character" by Dadi and her own folks will only stop once the truth about the contract is out! The "why" behind her being at the RM will surface again! The showdown today ensured this! As much as Naani reminded him of his responsibility to her, there are still others who will point fingers at her and them! Their sacrifices for their siblings--tied to that contract--have to come out so that they are redeemed for their actions, they may not want it, but "others" will leave them no choice! So, Arnav's tryst with his true destiny begins now...and Khushi will be a part of it; maybe not by his side, but with him, nonetheless. Arnav will not only fight the snake, but he will fight many others like him, figuratively and otherwise! His going into the "peetal ka bhartan" will happen in this phase as well...

Yes, on this day, when the shackles were to come off from their "contract", we see shackles of another kind being put on it...dark truths, norms and societal dictates will ensure it! Yes, her words of not returning until the contract is "done" seem prophetic now! But the paradox remains: they have now declared their love for each other, and yet they wait for that sweet joy to reunite them. But where and when will love find its way then? Can we hope that after this phase is over, it will finally be time for him to come and seek her when the "sky is clear", in the West? When Spring finally arrives? Will the "homecoming" be as beautiful as we envision it, or will it entail traversing on a path of sharp thorns, yet again?

Before I get into some other thoughts, I want to bring three important "script liberties" that have been bothering me since yesterday:

1) Naani had agreed, albeit very reluctantly in the beginning, that Lavanya & Arnav could live together. Yes, I understand the cultural differences between La's family & the Raizadas, and also between La & Khushi themselves. But, ultimately, was it fair that Khushi was asked to leave, given that she had already lived with him for 6 mths? When Arnav announced his engagement, La continued to reside in the RM. She was not told to live separately until the wedding. Really, is this a legitimate cultural argument, or is this a glaring double standard?


2) The "Moral Police" strikes again: accusingly and blatantly questioning the woman's upbringing, morals, character. The man's impetuous in all this is given no attention. And it was implicit in the questioning: this was Khushi's doing, not Arnav's...Dadi made her case over & over again...yeh ladki, aapki beti ke sanskaar...etc, etc. Don't get me wrong, I appreciated Naani's "defense" of Khushi, and loved Arnav's response...He tried to defend her by saying he knew the circumstances under which they got married (and yet, he did not reveal the actual reason; again, the reason for the contract looms!) But I still ask, was it necessary to give us such deliberate maligning? Or is this SP's standard convoluted funda for raising TRPS?🤢 I am not willing to buy the argument "that is the norm"! No, it doesn't hold water for me!

3) So the marriage vows and rituals are happening to please to others, not for ArHi themselves. But do the pheras and rasams and the "presence of samaj" define marriages in India and in "our culture"? Never mind the "hungama" said samaj will create in any case by seeing Khushi in her maayka again; so the point is to shut the mouths of those very ppl by giving them something to talk about from the get-go? Wha???Do the CVs honestly expect the audience to buy into this archaic and dare I say it, banal, thinking? And since when has ASR cared about what others think? I think it was an injustice to his character to some degree to have to relent to everything. Why couldn't this wedding be just because Khushi wanted it? Have Aman be a witness! This is the best script for the remarriage ? Really?

Other thoughts~

~ Khushi wore the same outfit as the day of the kidnapping...ominous or coincidence?

~The glass shattering: consistency in all things omens, I tell ya! Kudos, CVs!!

~Tu hi baata mere Maula, tu hi baata mere Rabba...I have always said this prayer defines them...but it also brought me back to the "mannat ki chaabi" we've talked about, hun...Where the reference to that "key" began, where we first heard those haunting and everlasting sufi words...A reminder of the significance of that "key" and our Khushi's role, yet again?

~Rose petals...Khushi touching those petals on the bed brought me back to your "bleeding rose" yesterday, and all the references we've made to roses and thorns...Again, a beautiful moment overshadowed by melancholy.

~Daadi is still not happy with Khushi as ASR's wife...The nexus to the past is a very clear one. Oh, & I hate it when she says Arnav's name--go figure!😡

~Where was Arnav the night before, and did he clear the rose petals...hahaha & throw them into that suitcase (good one, Priya!!😆)?

~And is the white SUV back for good?😕 Stop TEASING us!!! We have plans for it!😉

~ASR's "Stop It" ROCKED!

~I can't wait for ASR to climb through windows at GH & the render-vous that will ensue!

~Daaiiyaaa Hooo!!! *Shudders* CCTV in the RM...what we always hoped for--but in reverse!😆 How many of us prayed that Snake's behavior would be caught on the RM CCTV so that Khushi's truth would come out (assuming Arnav had installed a system?) I was laughing when I saw him, too...Can we do away with that blue bracelet & the threats now? We get the point!

~I do think Shyam will come back stronger, and all those reference to "36" we've heard will find its way to AR36K...

Performances were solid across the board; the "liberties" in the script left me asking today. Coupled with this, the thought of a separation and the "darkness" approaching seemingly at breakneck speed is a bit of a downer for me (I know, a first!😲) Well, I am getting ready for travels soon; just as well...Will miss this space and all of you guys as always. Hope to be here tomorrow if time permits, otherwise, will drop in chalte chalte...😊🤗

A very Happy Independence Day to All! There is ONLY ONE MOTHER! VANDE MATARAM!

Edited by Nandalala - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Priya, luving the beautfiul flow of the Crooner & that amazing quote 👏 👏The points hanging in air r something which continue to puzzle us daily.
The Day of Compromises...
Between The PH & the " ever interferring " Channel
Between ASR & his " manipulative family "
Priya, as u said the not so dhamakedaar re-entry of the antagonist. Why not cash in on such plots in the storyline & attract the audience?? 😕 😕 Look at the " Pheeka " promo u r airing currently..
Gul/ The Missing One, I am still hopeful. U have not disappointed me till date & my fingers r crossed this time as well. ASR, the backbone of this show, the most endearing & beautifully written character. But look at how easily he succumbed to pressure & agreed to the remarriage. This is serious So this is what Khushi really wanted after all that transpired between the two in the past few weeks?? Only such a marriage with all the shor sharaba satisfy her??
" Hum aapko badalna nahi chahtey "
Do I want the remarriage with all the rituals & fullon band bajaa?? Nopes bcoz that negates the beauty of those moments, those rituals already performed symbolically between the two...
And finally the man with that captivating smile & soulful eyes, whose one dialogue made my day " Apni patni ko haath lagaane ki ijaazat maine kissi ko nahi di aur thapad marna toh bahut door ki baat hai " 👏 👏 👏 Luved his new royal blue shirt...
Edited by amisuv - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Deba.. I love the crooner, no matter what format! The opening lines, the story as mesmerizing as ever.! Yes, the lines have merged!

Love your messages to the Creatives!! Really wanted to add some more to them! Coz as you know very well.. the episode left me unsettled, unconvinced, dissatisfied!!! Somebody, hold the pace I say! We cant dismiss important details in our aim to keep up a racing pace! And what we saw in two days needed some detailed layout! It looked more than just a bit rushed!

The cleared made out bed in the morning left a sad feeling in me, more so coz the man was missing! Khushi has realized what his words meant.. but I would have loved to see a monologue or a dialogue between them.. to see whether she chose the feelings or still had the same doubts!

Daadi's accusations left me feeling horrible! All those phrases 'avaidh tareeke', 'halke sanskaar' .. the likes.. I agree that this marriage dint seem valid to Daadi and others and that even Naani refused to accept this relationship, but why cudnt they say something to stop Daadi from making such remarks on her character! The circumstances prohibited it? Okhay.. why dint Arnav say anything?

I loved his dialogues and the way he stopped Bua from slapping Khushi.. but what he said to all and to daadi was only in support of his own decisions, his beliefs or rather non-beliefs! Just a sentence to Khushi that he knows in what 'halaat' they got married doesnt do much to take away the insults on her character! Why dont the elders ever ask what halaat?? How come the sudden approval from everybody when he admitted to getting married again!! They forgave the 'avaidh rishta' of six months just like that??

Loved how Arnav kept repeating 'meri patni', 'phir se shaadi'.. not agreeing for a moment that they are not married!!! And his fallen expressions on knowing that she will be taken away from him.. poor boy!!

Loved Khushi's 'hum bhi aapse I love you dammit'.. havnt seen a cuter or a more adorable confession ever.. just that I wanted a little bit more drama around it, some more build up!!

Shyam's entry, the lesser said the better!! Such a thanda and comedic re-entry for my Shyamwa!! This villain only makes me laugh!!! And did it deserve no promo?? Strange!!!

Having ranted some of what I wanted to, I am looking forward to the sweet separation and the wedding rasams now! I am sure they will bring in some beautiful moments!!

Edited by shwetachauhan - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Love the post Priya, beautifully worded and perfectly put.

I loved the episode for many reasons, obviously the highlight being the simple confession of acceptance of Arnav's love and the reciprocation of the same, just in the way he confessed. I haven't seen a confession so simple and so straight forward on Indian Television. Every confession I have seen has concentrated more on visuals than feelings and reactions of the people involved, but this one touched my heart.

Apart from the confession there were a lot of things that stood apart for me and made the episode a perfect one.

- Arnav being the protector, 6 months ago the same man saw her being slapped by her mother but couldn't do anything but feel enraged that his wife had been slapped. But today the same man came in the way and didn't let Khushi be questioned or hurt. Proving that today or forever he would always be by her side holding her hand or stand in front of her protecting her from any wrath that has to come her way.

Though I felt that the attack on Khushi was too hurtful, because she has been innocent all this while, and questioning an elder from her family about the 'sanskar' they have given her was mocking her innocence. Hoping sincerely that ultimately whenever the script demands, her innocence,sacrifice and greatness in character is proved.

- I love Nani's character, no matter what happens, she has always stood by Khushi and ArHi's relation. Even though she was angry, but an elderly person from her generation would definitely raise a voice knowing the rituals to be followed were ignored. It was pleasing to see how happy she was when Arnav agreed for a remarriage, because she in no way wanted her Khushi Bitiya out of the house. She has seen how much that girl's presence has changed her Chotte's life. The man who had lived only for others so far, started living for himself and searching his own happiness.

- Feel the same for Anjali, she surely knows how happy Arnav is with Khushi, and no matter what happened in the past and no matter what she can remember when she is with Khushi, she thought of her brother's happiness before anything today..

- Last but not the least, the one thing that shook the forum and the minds of the viewers, the entry of our very own super cupid Mr Shyam 😆 - I'll be really honest. When I saw him, the first word that rang in my head was 'seperation' But when his warning of not letting ArHi meet till he is alive echoed, it made me laugh and assured me how no matter what he did Arnav and Khushi are going to marry. There is no way that both of them can be without the other in existence now. Yes Shyam will come back, yes he will do a zillion things to pull them apart and stop the marriage, but this time if he's coming back stronger and sharper, I don't have to mince my words when I say that ArHi got stronger too. So many moments of trust, support, and love between them, weren't without any reason. It was for them to understand the deeper meaning of love and to know how far the other can go for them.
The marriage will be high on drama no doubt, but the end will be victory for the love...

And lastly, I can see TRP's stuck on a point, but no matter what, I won't take anyone saying that the episodes lacked in anyway, they've been well balanced and almost perfect every day last 10 days.
Edited by Ankita.M - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Nandalala

"Say, when shall we next meet together?
Surely not in cloudy weather,
For you my boon companions dear
Come only when the sky is clear."

~Li Po

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YAY!!! The WHITE SUV is back!!!!!!🥳🥳

TBE~


Oh i read the title and had a FB so forgot to mention...MUBARAK..SUV is back n in style..biwi sae one to one kernae ki jageh sir SUV ghooma rahe thae..i mean he loves it as much as we do!!
Fir barat issi mai lae chaltae hai..!!! 😊
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Priya -- I love your crooner dammit!

Loved the Oscar Wilde quote and loved how you tied up purab and uttar and the pigeons ... I forgot all of those yesterday and day before with their wonderful confessions!

Back to arithmetic and math -- symbolism be damned!

1) Proved yesterday - pharak = love -new dictionary needed
2) Proved yesterday - A woman can prove herself to be pure only with a man's sanction.. this axiom or fallacy unfortunately played out again
3) Proved yesterday - The number of guards in a millionaire's house is inversely proportional to the number of people who can walk into it -- note that Daadi , shyam's cohorts ,masala maama , NK all came in. Useless guards -- shaayad sab SKD mein hai
4) Proved yesterday - Walls have ears - trees have eyes - note cameras in swimming pool area - satyaanash - Arnav and Khushi had better check for spy cams in their bedroom too
5) Proved yesterday - One man's meat is another man's poison- Daadi and Arnav can never get along
6) Proved yesterday - I love you dammit is the new I love you-- loved the way Khushi said it
7) Proved yesterday - Arnav bitwa is strong enough to handle dhai kilo ka haath- loved the way he stopped Buaji
8) Last 5 days - Angle in a circle is 360 degrees... loops closed
9) Proved today - good episodes do not mean good TRPs😭

To be still proved

1) Remarriage = higher TRPs
2) Daiyya ho entry = suspense and no marriage
3) Anji's missing baby bump = twins

Enjoyed the episode actually -- the last 5 mins - arnav's standing up to the family and Khushi's confession. Methinks bitwa agreed to the marriage only for Khushi.

Leaving you with the best .. the return of DHV!






Edited by Newbiesoapfan - 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Parsha

Perfect Title Priya: 👏


Read a poem in school ...it was about this rain drop..which set out of the clouds in search of home.. was not sure of her belonging..when wind blew her towards the Sea..This rain drop fell in an open shell..and turned into a pearl..found home..found identity...

Jyon nikal kar badlon ki god se
thi abhi ik boond kuchh aage badhi
sochne phir phir yahi jee men lagi
aah ghar chhod kar main kyon yoon kadhi

baeh gayi us waqat ik aisi hawa
voh samander oor aayi anmani
ek sunder seep ka moohn tha khula
vah usi mein jaa giri moti bani

ANSWERED MY QUESTION OF HER BELONGING!!! (another loop closed.. at least for me!! 😊)


Parsha...It is so beautiful...Loved it...
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sapnen rang de,apne rang de
khushiyaan rang de, gam bhi rang de
naslen rang de, faslein rang de
rang de dhadkan, rang de sargam
aur mohe tuu rang de basanti yaara, mohe tuu rang de basanti



thodi si dhuul meri... dharti ki mere watan ki
thodi si Khushbuu baurai se mast pavan ki


happy independence dear country!!!



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Lovely Quote Priya di👏
Episode was awesome...from the starting to the surprise ending...😃
Starting the epi with khushi...thinking his "Haan faraq padtha hai kyunki"dialogue...and she completed it by thinking about hi"i luv u dammit"one.😉Awesome...she itself knows...that he was trying to say that oly even that time😃😃
And then...my fav song...TU HI BATA...luvd it...😊
Then the twist in the tale...Khushi's expressions...when she was lookin at dadi...was good...she was scared lik hell...
And then her fear came true...nani started the conversation...My god...her voice tone..when she asked hw did their marriage happen...Awesome naniji..👏
Dadi is hell bent on to send Khushi out of the house...her accusations wer too much...i know...that the marriage without rituals are nt meant to be marriage...but for god sake...its even ur Arnav's mistake...y ur shouting oly at her...ARGHHH...😡I Hate Her😡
Buaji...last time..it was garima who slapped her...but arnav never stopped her by doing that...but time has changed...and he luvvvs her nw...❤️❤️
kya dialogue mari hero ne. "Apni patni ko hath lagane ki ijazat maine kisi ko nahi di.. thappad marna to bohot door ki baat hain...!! "🥳...Super one...his attitude is in high form nowadays after his dadi's return..😉
wow...wow...wow...then he said the dialogue...which we all wer waiting to hear for mnths..."mein meri patni se shaadi karne keliye tayyar hoon"...Awww...😍😍
Shyam manohar jha is back...CV's wat are u planning...but without the villian...hero and heroine's marriage wil never be a hit...am sure he is again going to fail in his plan...and that wil work in arshi's favour...😆
Awww...hav anyone seen a cutest confession other than our mrs.ASR?????🤗❤️
Noways...no one can beat her..."Hum bhi aapse I LUV U DAMMIT"...God how cute can she become...😃
And the smile which Arnav gave...Hayeee...died...🤢☺️
Okay...so its time to dance and party...as our hero and heroine are going to get married...🥳🥳.and can t wait to see asr performing the rituals...haldi..mehendi...sangeeth...Phere...
And waiting to see...how are thy goin to spend these days..away from eachother...i kno thy hav become so used to be together...Hope we get many romantic rabba ve moments...😉😍
This week has started with a Dhamakedar two episodes...Hope CV's continue this...😊

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