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CravingKhana

@CravingKhana

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Posted: 13 years ago

Why the pre-occupation with the tragedies of life...is it more fuel for drama...are we really such voyeurs...that we need to have so much of lives tragedies paraded in our sopa operas to make them enjoyable entertainment...

I am not averse to reel reflecting real for that is the source of drama be it the creators infuences or societies need to dramatise and explore the cravices of life...

yet to merely dabble with same because it might boost one viewership...begs the question...

to write in experiences that one has not experienced or researched is in my opinion is fairley selfish and shortsighted of the creator (and this is putting in mildly...and a very hurtful injustice to many in the vaset seemless audience who might have had the misfortune of having been touched by these miseries...

Another very intriguing thought for me...how is it that possible alluding to or insinuation of... incest,...extra marital sex.,...pre marital sex,...illiigitamacy...consumation ...provokes an almost gutteral outcry...where as the actual botched portrayal of a life tragedy, a verbal discusision of it has a nary an effect...

Are we that preoccupied by sex...?????

Do we have such little respect for life and for tragedies that are part of our society yet not part of our lives?

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Smriti

@serialjunkie

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Posted: 13 years ago

First, let me clear the air with one serious thing thats been bothering everyone.

Arnav is a virgin. Bas.

Ok, now to more mundane of issues of...wait...suicide? There is nothing mundane or hilarious about it. Thats why Khushi's suicide escapade made it so distasteful and off-putting. Now, ASR who has experience with mulitple suicides in his family can take Khushi's suicide as a joke and as a matter of inconvenience really surprises me. So, it has to be concluded that the writers of this show have no clue the stigma and aftermath of suicide, they have not done any research on this issue nor do they have any appreciation for the trauma it plunges the affected into. For them this is entertainment and as long as we get a few Rabba Ves and a vague missing villain for good measure, its paisa vasool.

then again, some writers of this show had written an erstwhile show where a girl child of 10 yrs or less was shown peeing in her pants with camera zoom and focus on the trickle of the pee down her legs while an apple was placed on the kids head at gun point, and a small patch of hair on top of her head shown blown away when the apple was shot -- all in the name of entertaintment - what can i say, IPK smells like roses.

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madmaxine

@madmaxine

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Posted: 13 years ago

Wow, serious kostin. I'd change my DP before asking it though! 😆

Ok..I kid, I kid.

I could give you the whole escapist drama spiel...I don't think you'd enjoy that. My personal opinion is that these guys don't have it in them to write sensitively about the topic you are referring to. Apart from not wanting to venture into those very muddy waters. Look, I prolly couldn't write about suicide. It's too complex. Much easier to have Khushi wear her kurta inside out.

Often I find books are better than TV/Movies when discussing serious issues. No time constraints. No budget hassles. It's easier to expose yourself in written than in person, even if you are acting. Sylvia Plath's The Bell Jar is a good read.

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MentalExotica

@MentalExotica

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Posted: 13 years ago

Firstly everyone Craves Khana that's the purpose of existence

So TV show makers thrive (earn their dal roti) on dramatising tragedies of life and roping in some success, crude you say, but that's what works.

Masses connect with tragedies well, cos sympathy and apathy stir the deep human emotion.

Sex is what cures another part of human hunger so well we all crave khana...

I know you'll beat me with your intelligence but this is all i had to offer//

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CravingKhana

@CravingKhana

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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: madmaxine
Wow, serious kostin. I'd change my DP before asking it though!

Ok..I kid, I kid.

I could give you the whole escapist drama spiel...I don't think you'd enjoy that. My personal opinion is that these guys don't have it in them to write sensitively about the topic you are referring to. Apart from not wanting to venture into those very muddy waters. Look, I prolly couldn't write about suicide. It's too complex. Much easier to have Khushi wear her kurta inside out.

Often I find books are better than TV/Movies when discussing serious issues. No time constraints. No budget hassles. It's easier to expose yourself in written than in person, even if you are acting. Sylvia Plath's The Bell Jar is a good read.

I should shouldnt I ...may be a shirtless Shemar u think that should help with being taken seriously...😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆

So true...so why dont they stick to inside out kurtas and do em well...on that note wonder how one of her multicolored do's would have looked inside out...

I have no qualms about making it all about sex ...Sex sells and Ole i too am a customer...

all of the soaps are based on the carrot of will the wont they ...the tention ripping us apart...so then why the need for these troubled portrayals ...if u gotta do em do em well...not time no budget stay away...jsut give some real good tear jerkers...

they also keep hinitng alot at psychalogical issues and mental weakness...haaah oh well deep sigh lets go back to the Su...Gaag...

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LadyLaLa

@LadyLaLa

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Posted: 13 years ago

Oh tangy this is such a thought evoking post and I am a bit too tired to delve deep for a sensible answer..

I doubt if CVs even think the way you do... for them tragedies are meant to garner higher TRPs.. They care a tuppence for those afflicted by similar incidents in real life... They don't think it out the way you do..

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654772

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Posted: 13 years ago

Suicide is harrowing... its effects are long lasting and damaging on many levels... Having lost people to it... I can't think straight when Suicide is mentioned because it is that traumatic and I become depressed for days on end, and these people weren't even close to me. The loss of life has been diluted so much in entertainment that we are lead to believe that some individuals deserve violent death, that death is justice when it never is. Death is loss of life, it's a hole in the human patchwork that can never be filled and I don;t know how it has become so mundane...

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CravingKhana

@CravingKhana

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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: MentalExotica
Firstly everyone Craves Khana that's the purpose of existence

So TV show makers thrive (earn their dal roti) on dramatising tragedies of life and roping in some success, crude you say, but that's what works.
Masses connect with tragedies well, cos sympathy and apathy stir the deep human emotion.

Sex is what cures another part of human hunger so well we all crave khana...

I know you'll beat me with your intelligence but this is all i had to offer//

what intelligence you stumped me at khana...now i am left craving...nextt ime u wann have a serious convo with me...then dont bring up khan girl...if not we will be talkin dhal chawal roti...and roti chawal dhall...only...😆

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Jayne

@Jayne

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Posted: 13 years ago

Answering the last first, yes, we are that preoccupied with sex.

As a civilization (are we really civilized?), our waking and sleeping moments are ruled by it.

That aside, I do agree that making sensitive subjects fodder for the prurient interests of the masses is something that has now become par for the course.

Suicide is actually very mild in terms of what the public can take and enjoy - stripping it bare until it stands naked; and enjoying it in all its macabre bits.

I would not be at all surprised if there are many more shows being introduced with all the truly reprehensible aspects of human nature that were displayed on Sutyamave Juhyuhtay.

Female foeticide and child sexual abuse would just be the beginnings.

They would be introduced on SP and other channels as under the rather dubious umbrella of 'social cause message', but the message part would be lost under all the detailed depictions of the devious way in which to actually carry out such atrocities.

In that sense, suicide is mere child's play for our PH.

It leaves behind broken individuals forever scarred, and what good is a hero if he does not have personal demons to battle?

The question is not if the PH has any sense of fair-play, or shame, or remorse. It's if we - as the viewers - have any piece of soul left to be sold.

Jayne

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CravingKhana

@CravingKhana

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Posted: 13 years ago

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Originally posted by: serialjunkie
First, let me clear the air with one serious thing thats been bothering everyone.

Arnav is a virgin. Bas.

Ok, now to more mundane of issues of...wait...suicide? There is nothing mundane or hilarious about it. Thats why Khushi's suicide escapade made it so distasteful and off-putting. Now, ASR who has experience with mulitple suicides in his family can take Khushi's suicide as a joke and as a matter of inconvenience really surprises me. So, it has to be concluded that the writers of this show have no clue the stigma and aftermath of suicide, they have not done any research on this issue nor do they have any appreciation for the trauma it plunges the affected into. For them this is entertainment and as long as we get a few Rabba Ves and a vague missing villain for good measure, its paisa vasool.

then again, some writers of this show had written an erstwhile show where a girl child of 10 yrs or less was shown peeing in her pants with camera zoom and focus on the trickle of the pee down her legs while an apple was placed on the kids head at gun point, and a small patch of hair on top of her head shown blown away when the apple was shot -- all in the name of entertaintment - what can i say, IPK smells like roses.

Really...Arnav...is chotey is not initiated...kya...i need something to eat...

No its not mundane...and yet ...we treat it so...not just the creators ...us the very apathetic audience...yes its our entertainment its half an hour of entertainment and it can get our gooat enought to come to random forums and hours on end rip each others guts out (virtually)...jsut to debate the queation of IS he or Is he no...

or even more the minute angles the BD's the rare juddi showing never escape us...yet the larger than life events the scary realities alluded to...seem to just become background whitwash...

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