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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: mashira

arrgggh as always I am bhery bhery late but nevertheless! very thoughtful crooner Priya.. I have something to say to this though. I understand completely where you are coming from and the rant against woman-servant is totally understandable too. But my point here is, if we are assuming that IPK is as real to life as it can get on a daily soap with its own daily pressures, why not this reality as well? For how much ever we try to turn away from this reality of what I call sophisticated untouchability and ego/pride/ignorance (for always, pride comes with ignorance as much as it does with arrogance) disguised in rituals and religion, this exists. It still does. It is as much a reality as anything else in our complicated country. Is it the responsibility of fiction to showcase reality as it is or does its responsibility extend to 'correcting' what is wrong in society. I am not debating here... I am just asking a question.

In this context, wanted to share a personal detail with crooner ladies!

When I saw dadi yesterday, I was open mouthed. It felt as if the spirit of my own dadi (that is my cousin dadi) had somehow got into ASR's dadi!! I come from a joint family and this dadi was EXACTLY like this and I am not exaggerating. Ritualistic, high brahminical so-called cleanliness...the constant shuddhikarans...the inborn disdain for people whom she considered lower than her own self imposed standards and yet, principled, not all bad and very judgemental and opinionated. She did not even attend my wedding coz she thought I had become 'impure' by marrying a non-brahmin and God forbid if any of the domestic helps touched her stuff! And yes, they were neither allowed near the puja room nor allowed to give her any food nor touch her things. And if such a horror happened, she would straight run for shuddhikaran. Her respect too for her own kind, women, was very suspect too.. I will say that much without going into too many family secrets on this public forum!

It felt surreal and then today morning I come and read your crooner and I am just trying to realign and get some viewpoints. So Dadi is as real as they come. So should fiction show this reality or not?

Sorry, my intention is not to fight/debate but just out of curiosity! 😊



ok rashmi dont get me wrong...on first read ,mane socha...me and Rashmi talking same thing...then y she saying disagreeing 😆 blame my sleepy hormones...
then a second read...I got what u saying...c I totally agree that fiction should mirror wats prevalent in the society - thats y my first line of the post was - days when fiction angers me, annoys me...and thats wat was the reason -.
I have completely no problem with Daadi being shown prejudiced and all the other stuff that you outlined - my sore points simply - why could maami and the other two not voice out the truth - and why the "servant" factor be glorified...
I know more than very well how its prevalent in our society...
a small personal bg - my mum's side family is Zamindar family...and till now we have vast family tree...on my mum's maternal home...its a huge place with a big temple at home...where "narayana" is there - so as per Hindu rituals lots of strictness is followed...as puja takes place every day...sometimes its an underlined fact tht some liberties are not allowed as per customes...but never ever have servants been stopped from handling pooja stuff - across Hindu customs - there is nowhere which stays servants cant participate - yes, what is important and followed - hygience and cleanliness - you should be cleansed and take shower before doing pooja stuff...so I had an issue with the dialogue - "naukar pooja ki samgri nahi choo sakte hain" - that was a very wrong statement from my POV strictly.
also I have said in the post - if they have shown this - as it still mirrors lots of prevailing bisaness no doubt in our society - the writer should also show that Daadi takes back these words one day - thats when a successful progressive fictional writing is done...you show what is actually there in society - the wrong - but do also show the remedial measure !!!
Wanted to mention BV doing a great job on that - but saw Nishi had already pointed that - they showed Daadisa's orthodox virtues and old schoolism to complete extent - but then they also showed the transformation - so which as part of the script here no doubt they'll show Daadi's transformation towards Khushi...but my point is will the script also touch these remedial measure on insulting a servant from participating in pooja ???
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: soni.b

😆😆😆😆😆😆 soni mortals der jonno shedding those tears foremost ...😭😭😭 sbs se yeh haal...epi ka kya hoga...
never knew gulping can be soo damn sexyyy...😳

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Posted: 13 years ago
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/iss-pyaar-ko-kya-naam-doon/3135271/hi-7th-aug-translate-in-englishdecoding time!!!
sorry priya didn't see ur post!!!
Edited by soni.b - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: hd75


Your brother's name is Arnab? Wow !! Happy Birthday to him 😊.

I influenced one of my colleagues to name his son Arnav, he was thinking of a couple of names including Arnav and I kept telling him what a great name that was until he finally named his son Arnav ! The things we fans do, I tell you 😳

Thankss dear...ya bro's name Arnab - one more reason that pulled me to the show initially 😆
wow thats some awsm phann gurlism...told him in the morng friends on my post hv wished u and had dedicated u a song - then he is like u would have screamed and told my name too - ab is naam ka to tumhaare liye koi aur hi intention hai 😆
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Posted: 13 years ago

"Di, I was more affected by Manorama's reaction than anything else! Just riled me to no end! She has gotten away with this phatti sari and khoon bhari taang business long enough but today she chose NOT to correct Dadi--it was absolutely COWARDLY! No respect for Mami now!

We all discussed earlier this morning that ASR has to put Mami in her place one of these days--it should have happened a long time ago, but better late than ever!"


anjali,
don't know if you'll read this but i have a curious affection for this obnoxious woman. maybe because asr bought her that necklace which means he kind of gets her, definitely because she helped khushi during the hunt for asr, also nani once said she was good of heart. plus i like utkarsha naik's guts, to do this obvious caricature with so much nuance. however, you are right, it is time to yell at her. i nominate her favourite nephew.

after she's got what she deserves and calms down a bit i would really like to find out more about mano darling. she reminds of a certain sort of woman, those who don't know how to assert themselves for all sorts of reasons, and grow mean and underhand, become bullies. yet in some invidual one on one relationships they are wonderful. have some aunts like that. maybe not making much sense here, but manorama i feel is not a bad sort. she was quaking at the sight of the dadi person, and never known for her boldness just sidled out of a tricky situation. but what happened to payal? why didn't nk complete his sentence? i understand khushi keeping quiet. but those two?
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Posted: 13 years ago
first of all am astonished at your waking power!! is it the gulp effect? 😆 pls dont say stop..that is part of the utter sexiness deal package. 🤪

thanks for ur reply. glad you didn't have to see the 'servant' (oh i even hate that word) segregation in your household... I have grown up seeing it and believe me, it took all my instinctive efforts to get out of that rut.

yeah even payal and mami's silence is unfortunately part of reality but am totally with you. What I meant was fiction should not be prevented from showing reality however regressive that appears to be. It is not fiction's responsibility COMPLETELY to correct society's wrongs though it can and it does contribute immensely to it.

Having said that, I very much agree that it should not be justified by any means. I do hope the writers take that vital step in dadi's redemption (that dratted word again!) and make her listen to an 'aukat' lesson, like the one Khushi gave Arnav!

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Posted: 13 years ago
beautiful crooner...so much is coming I am getting ...but I'll wait😊
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: hd75

Yesterday's episode was kind of shocking, disgusting for many, but for me it seemed a reflection of our society and as someone who has experienced that kind of behaviour, I could so relate to it. I don't know if we are allowed to write about personal experiences here but nevertheless, let me go



I apologise if my post is out of place here but it did touch a chord somewhere and felt like sharing it.


Heyyy suba here...glad that u shared it with us ...am so proud that u stood up for ur self and have an immense respect for ur husband for standing by u...!!!!applause!!!

Totally agree this so exists in the society..and portraying it in fiction or a reality show..they may or may not be instrumental in bringing the change..but atleast open the eyes of the ignorant...but whatever said and done change has to come in the people...even the educated masses do this..what do we term it as..narrow minded ness??!!! What is the point of education when u r blind to things that are downright inhumane...!!!!

Well in our show ,when arnav stands by Khushi...give her the confidence..she will surely stand up even more stronger !!!!!!Whatver said and done I cannot justify maami 's action..well looks like chords are changing now..😊

And don't apologise ya!!!!😊

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