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Posted: 13 years ago

#31

I believe most have already voiced the highly 'consistent' magical word here *hint hint*

Either I have been skipping episodes or the CVs have got a Goddamned Ghajini influence, that the show's no longer like a roller coaster ride- it's like jumping from the Roller Coaster to the Ferris Wheel to the Log Slide all in a not-so-amusing amusement park.

You air the kidnapping track and now that the viewers have their minds on the clearance of the MU, you put in the Didi Ki Saut track like all that had been kidnapped was Anjali's water supply and woah, it's back, and then when the viewers expect a Redemption- heck, a SELF-REALIZATION- track, you put in the Wooing-cum-Booing track and finally when the viewers want the Separation track followed by Remarriage, you put in a blast from the Past track.

But you know what?

Khushi is in character.

ASR is in character.

We must bear with the Characternaak Chemistry.

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Posted: 13 years ago

#32

Originally posted by: RickyBahl

Media has a lot of responsibility and the present track is sending a wrong signal to males that Feeling Guilt, Apologising is not for men.
Showing arnav as rude at earlier stage was justified but now after all the drama was clear, its no less than a blunder.
I dont understand why they are hell bent on going against popular beliefs, demands and expectations.People want redemption thats it.
In order To make ramayan diffrent and interesting Sita cant be shown enjoying with raavan.

Similarly in the name of diffrent they are going to face TRP backlash,sooner.

Oh yes, in the past Arnie didn't use to hurt ten times for the hurt he gave to Khushi, I'm sure he just had some Face-Contorting, Rage-driving, Eye-straining Syndrome back then. Rocky included meds for that in Arnie's daily dose, surely. He's all cured. I'm sure our Drwho can verify that.

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FairyLiquidSoap

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Posted: 13 years ago

#33

Ricky

I understand your anguish and i really doubt they will show IPKKND the way we want them to for after all according to the creator of his character it is a herocentric show all about him and his sister and that is what really makes me angry

If the show was going to be all about an obsession then make the female protagonist ditzy and stupid from day one of the episode none of us would have had expectations and even better i doubt any of us more sane sensible and smart women would have bothered to watch this serial

Redemption Repentance Regret are all just words and honestly this serial will be forgotten when it shuts shop and i would rather spend time fighting over tangible causes where i can make a difference to someones thinking and a way of life

and this is the last time i ever watch an Indian soap and especially one from this PH the very mention of the name of lady boss is enough to make me want to run the other way

Really sad to see how a woman and other women behave in their worship of a man and i do feel pained also for how much lack of self worth love and respect they must be missing in their life for them to feel good only over the actions of a man

Saying sorry is only for wimps and blackmailing is a sign of love so the next time MMS acid attack molesting eve teasing happens it is all for love and should be treated as such Abuse is love and love is abuse what are a couple of broken bones body and spirit in comparison to the love of the man who walloped you to show how much he cares Did he not present you with flowers jewellery and all the things you love He Loves you so much he will pick your pieces lovingly and put it in a gurney bag all the while crying and lamenting how much it hurts him and how he did not mean to maim and kill you

no time for the crime thank you very much after all this is love

and yes you will have women justifiying that also as long as he is hot and sexy

am plum tuckered out now and Vibha i have just increased my admiration and respect level for the kind of work you do by another hundred percent

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Kookiemonster

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Posted: 13 years ago

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Originally posted by: evenjleena28

And I also wonder maybe they never had real love affair thats why they show this baloney to us...honestly even in M&B the heroine sometimes has spunk...that is pure smut anyway but this show does take the cake and lets not forget their PR guru who sucks at PRing and pun is so intended...

BTW: love your DP.
LOL...Cant say much about that but no good PR firm tells you to release a statement on Public forum which says"Dekhna hai to Dekho".
A little humility goes a long way but I don't think they know what it is.
IPKKND is a PR 's worst nightmare.
If you want to sell your product you need to maintain a good public decorum, but as far as a I have seen several outbursts from their team I really would never put my money on it.

When DB iterview came and she said oh have pity on me coz hubby was out of town...I thought for real???that has to be a joke...she is same in real life too then...
See now what is good PR?
THIS ?
REALLY?
"Have pity because My husband is out of town".
I just saw this ,I did not know that DB said something like that.
She has been in this field for few years .
How did she actually manage in life before she got married?

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Rishita

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Posted: 13 years ago

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Originally posted by: FairyLiquidSoap
Ricky
I understand your anguish and i really doubt they will show IPKKND the way we want them to for after all according to the creator of his character it is a herocentric show all about him and his sister and that is what really makes me angry

If the show was going to be all about an obsession then make the female protagonist ditzy and stupid from day one of the episode none of us would have had expectations and even better i doubt any of us more sane sensible and smart women would have bothered to watch this serial

Redemption Repentance Regret are all just words and honestly this serial will be forgotten when it shuts shop and i would rather spend time fighting over tangible causes where i can make a difference to someones thinking and a way of life

and this is the last time i ever watch an Indian soap and especially one from this PH the very mention of the name of lady boss is enough to make me want to run the other way

Really sad to see how a woman and other women behave in their worship of a man and i do feel pained also for how much lack of self worth love and respect they must be missing in their life for them to feel good only over the actions of a man

Saying sorry is only for wimps and blackmailing is a sign of love so the next time MMS acid attack molesting eve teasing happens it is all for love and should be treated as such Abuse is love and love is abuse what are a couple of broken bones body and spirit in comparison to the love of the man who walloped you to show how much he cares Did he not present you with flowers jewellery and all the things you love He Loves you so much he will pick your pieces lovingly and put it in a gurney bag all the while crying and lamenting how much it hurts him and how he did not mean to maim and kill you
no time for the crime thank you very much after all this is love

and yes you will have women justifiying that also as long as he is hot and sexy

am plum tuckered out now and Vibha i have just increased my admiration and respect level for the kind of work you do by another hundred percent

👏👏👏 👏 Well said Fairy

Actually we have been fools to fall in this trap. Bravo to Cv's that mistreating women has become pleasure for many IF ladies just because the man is Hot n handsome. I think it applies same if a handsome man rapes a girl, then fan girls here will say so what the man was so hot. Such is the condition these days.

It has become a fashion that if a man loves his wife by scolding and forcing than its very sexy. Wow..we as women have progressed. ??

You are right dear lets ignore mms, acid throw, eveteasing, domestic violence in the name of looks and personality.

I want to say the respect the 4 lions team has gathered over these months with this love story, it will easily be washed now. Come on girls what more will happen.Life does not stop for anyone. We will move in life, so will they but they will lose the respect of women at large. These few fans of barun in india forums are not Trp public. They will lose the revenue earning show which was made a rage all over due to we the fans.

Sometimes i feel CV's are themselves adopting the nature of ASR by ignoring popular demands.

Cv's keep on inflating ur EGO coz wen the tRp will fall down to 1. point something u will realise.

80% ppl working behing camera in this film n tv industry are from mass media background.So strange that the female producer of the show has dome masters mass communication and journalism from a profound central university- Jamila Milia islamia and yet her knowledge of women issues is so bleak.

The other male producer has done mass communication and Journalism from St Anthonys college shillong,What kind of teaching they got that they dont know how to communicate with Masses??

ASR no matter how much he loves Khushi, HE IS A CULPRIT AND WILL REMAIN UNLESS HE FEELS GUILTY APOLOGISES AND PROMISES NOT TO REPEAT IT AND THROW HIS OUTBURSTS AT HER.

Our posts will make their life hell dear..

Edited by RickyBahl - 13 years ago

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Kookiemonster

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Posted: 13 years ago

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Originally posted by: RickyBahl
My head shook in shame as a women to read the rangmunch article by another women

Some random people cant bcom a journalist by opening a website.
Evenjleena TRP will answer this week again..we can sit n watch this game

When you see a fellow woman writing this kind of stuff, it really makes you wonder how can a woman even think like that ?

Are we stupid or Is she so delusional ?

Is she really a journalist?

Don't we have some moral obligation to not promote this stuff even if it is a fiction?

She talks about Heathcliff and Darcy but has she even read these classics and sketched out the difference ?

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FairyLiquidSoap

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Posted: 13 years ago

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Originally posted by: kookie2020

When you see a fellow woman writing this kind of stuff, it really makes you wonder how can a woman even think like that ?

Are we stupid or Is she so delusional ?

Is she really a journalist?

Don't we have some moral obligation to not promote this stuff even if it is a fiction?

She talks about Heathcliff and Darcy but has she even read this classics and sketched out the difference ?

kookie catherine left heathcliffe in the end because she knew it would be the death of her humanity and humaneness

i have never bothered to read any article by this person or for that matter Rang Munch as i found it all lopsided and stupid leaning towards only one person

and no she is not a journalist just a love sick fool mooning over a fictitious character or have the lines betweent the actor and character have blurred for her that she has trouble distinguishing the 2

i know plenty in the forum suffer from the same disease so may be she too can be added to that delusional list

and i have a feeling all those supportive messages emanated from similar worshippers plus lots of MID to ensure she is right in her views

TRPS dont matter when a fantasy is being brought to life and deals will be made to ensure that the fantasy stays on

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Kookiemonster

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Posted: 13 years ago

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Originally posted by: FairyLiquidSoap
kookie catherine left heathcliffe in the end because she knew it would be the death of her humanity and humaneness.
That is what any sane ,strong and self respecting woman with an ounce of intelligence would do.
i have never bothered to read any article by this person or for that matter Rang Munch as i found it all lopsided and stupid leaning towards only one person
I have never read any of this stuff This is the first time I have read the article because SJ posted it in this thread .
They are also biased and have lost sense and sensibility( I hope she read that,she talks about classics so much) to think and rationalize between right and wrong.

and no she is not a journalist just a love sick fool mooning over a fictitious character or have the lines betweent the actor and character have blurred for her that she has trouble distinguishing the 2

i know plenty in the forum suffer from the same disease so may be she too can be added to that delusional list.
She calls herself a modern ,independent woman so it really makes me doubt words like "modern" and "independent".

and i have a feeling all those supportive messages emanated from similar worshippers plus lots of MID to ensure she is right in her views
This forum is filled with crazy ASR adoration as I told you that day he can also get away with Murder just in the name of love and lovesick girls will OOOHH AND AAAHH over him.

TRPS dont matter when a fantasy is being brought to life and deals will be made to ensure that the fantasy stays on
For the channel whose tagline is "rishta wohi,soch nayi",it really makes you think what exactly is the soch?

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Rishita

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Posted: 13 years ago

#39

Originally posted by: kookie2020

When you see a fellow woman writing this kind of stuff, it really makes you wonder how can a woman even think like that ?
Are we stupid or Is she so delusional ?
Is she really a journalist?
Don't we have some moral obligation to not promote this stuff even if it is a fiction?
She talks about Heathcliff and Darcy but has she even read these classics and sketched out the difference ?

I wanted to post this reply to that rangmunch article but it didnt appear there..Dont know why???

Are u the media publicist of ASR or Gul for the matter??I forgot its an amateurish website called rangmunch whose work is to visit sets of IPKKND in charkop,mumbai, Making Contacts in TV industry, and then come back to write amateurish articles. Wow..U all have shamed online journalists for the matter.

The worst act of ur journalism was to ask riddles to barun in an interview. I thought TV actors should be respected like Film stars. Can u do such thing with salman khan on his sets. He will throw u out of the sets.Every second inmumbai is about money but u all people wont understand .U have opened it for Fun and force ur carcass ideologies on others.

Actually i forgot its very easy to open a website write nonsensical stuff and call urself a Scribe. You really need to learn the basics of Journalism. All cant be journalists.Your article looks like a page from Writings in Forums section of India Forums, or in wall posts of Facebook. Your this personalised viewpoint as writer of rangmunch is like an editorial and it should be presented in a proper format and style of conversing , not like a teenager fan of barun.Or else u should put it in RM adda. First time u made an editorial column look so cheap. You keep on reading India Forums posts and then come back to writing an article.Why dont u use some creativity of ur own??Any tom dick n harry can open website, put articles , but he/she doesnt becomes journalist.

D u realise Media has a lot of responsibility and what are u trying out here is nothing less than an agenda set by some people behind u.Your article has no value in market but there are people who cant differentiate that any stupid person can also write an article and call her as journalist. Those people come to read these posts and what they get is poor quality of vested ideas put in the name of journalismYou cant fool those people by your fossil literature.

If all people like u would be journalists oh god..world to end. Having command over english doesnt make a person reporter. Identifying the aspects of news story angles is important. Nose for news. Not typing anything that comes out of ur brain.

Anna hazare holding fast is secondary as news but his comments on Govt, and other politicinas will make headlines.U have to cater to general belief. And the general belief is ASR is wrong even if he loves Khushi. But iam ashamed as a women that u could write such stuff.

JOURNALISM IS NOT FOR ALL DEAR. Leave it or Convert rangmunch into personal blog better that can act as your expression of ur opinion. i mean mouthpiece.

You are a disgrace in the name of Reporter

I think my IP has been blocked..anyways anyone else if wishes can post it there.

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FairyLiquidSoap

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Posted: 13 years ago

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Vibha one last rant and i stop😆

I pride myself on being smart sensible and practical and the fact that I started to watch an Hindi soap much less an Indian soap bears witness to the kind of attraction that serial had caused I am sure many who cut language geographical cultural boundaries to watch this serial would have felt the same way whether ABCD BBCD Or FBCD like me and others not exactly Indians

What is galling is that IPKKND was never like this last year The male protagonist redeemed himself after every track and while they did not show the elephant in the room namely the video tape understandable at that time as I thought it was a soap and would be revealed when Shyam was unmasked there were other heartwarming gestures and dialogues that made you really like them both and felt in your heart that there was a slow but palpable shift in the relationship and synergy of the two No meaningless RV we in fact craved for them to touch stare and feel each other the sexual chemistry was such you could feel it every time they were together in a scene and the rest of the characters had their own story to tell whether it be the father daughter sister aunt moments or the grandmother grandson sister girlfriend moments and the brother in law added to the suspense

My theory KKG was running away with the tracks and audience sympathy and this of course was in conflict with the avowed statement of the creator that it was a hero centric show ergo a flip in the story a shift change in the male leading to a surge in the hormones and soon all that mattered is the creamin and the screamin of the lunatics and fanatics that has suddenly made IPKKND look like some cheap C grade skin show

Of course the sane women audience decided to go off this serial I am also tired of so many twits here barely of legal age or over age condemning the No 1 show that is rocking the TRP I don't see it but have heard enough about it to know it is a family drama and the woman protagonist although she cannot act to save her life is shown as inspiring and courageous and a beacon of change to traditional Indian thinking

Many of the viewers who decide the TRP unlike us do not have multiple TV sets access to a laptop desktop internet or phone surfing They have to decide as a family what works for their entertainment is it a mindless disconnected disrespectful to women family and viewers with leads they have no resonance with like IPKKND or the alternate in a rival channel that shows a young woman whose life was shattered first by a child marriage then by her husband deserting her for another woman and now picking up the pieces to build a life for herself put your self in their place which would you chose and hormones be damned

IPKKND will never be number precisely for the reason that it shows women in very poor light having no ability to think on their own and yes KKG is being pimped to show her very pretty face and sexually beguiling ways to keep all the worshippers fantasy alive that ASR deserves beauty in his life and principles be damned