4 Lions, u cant let ASR off so easily, REDEEM HIM - Page 3

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awesome post indeed.

still i cantt forget khushi's tears. if khushi can forgive him who am i dare not to ?

Great post!I am speechless.👏

Originally posted by: pisces25

Why can't he be absolved of his sin? Fine if we go by what others want his redemption but still he has to be little further back in line because all the others she listed should be redeemed first.

I do not think all her post sympathize with Arnav and so what if it does. There are many who make post just on a character. Plus if I was in her place I would make post on characters I connect with and sympathize with.

Originally posted by: mysterygirl123

Well ... U used the deewar dialogue... Jaao us aadmi ka sign le ke aao Jisne mere hath mein yeh likh diya thha...but the reality even in that movie was, no past life , however harsh they may have been could absolve the anti hero of his sins in that movie...and the same holds true even here .

People have always had this insane sympathy towards an anti hero ...well that's the psychology filmmakers who make such films capitalize on. All ur posts till date have been no different... It's always been laden blindly with love, sympathy for the anti hero ...added to it the absurd need to justify him. But the truth is , the person cannot be absolved of his sins because the public is able to sympathize with him and love him. It did not happen in deewar... It ll be unreal if it happens in this story.

When people sympathize with an anti hero, they don't justify the means, they simply understand the circumstances that lead to the means and by extension the product. And in most cases, the anti-hero feels the need to redeem themselves because at the end of the day, they do have a moral compass even when everyone around them are able to forgive and forget.

And if i read this post carefully, the TM never suggested that the anti-hero is beyond repentance...she just points out that there are others.

Every point of view leads to a good discussion.😃

Originally posted by: JWMRK

Hi

I am responding to you first because I first saw this and even though you have written to me humiliating my thought process and sensibilities...especially in a very personal manner in the bold text above...

But dont worry, I will not behave in that same disrespectful fashion with you

because then what is the difference between you and me😊

Since you think I am absurd in my thinking and blinded in love of ASR so be it...thats your view of me and you are entitled to it

Would therefore comment only on the Deewar part...Dewaar was not about idolising the anti hero ...or sympathising with him

In fact...Salim Javed themseves have themed it as the good (Shashi) succeeding over the bad (Amit)

Deewar was only about choices one makes...both brothers went through the same upheveals ...but their thought processes were different

The movie simply highlighted the above...and that most people are not born criminals or bad...its the circumstances that make them...but they are after all still human😊

Why can't he just say " Sorry Khushi I fu*ed up"..
And Khushi says " Its okay, Sh*t happens"..
And they move on..

Wow..what a post👏👏

ooohhh man...m like bowled over completely by ur post...whoaaa !!!! kya likha hai babes...*salute* <3 *salaams* <3 *bows down* <3 n all the amazing superlative adjectives in the dictionary are for u...n ONLY u today !! <3

Agree with each n every word of urs...like alwaz ( i haven't read each n every post u hv made till date to be honest...but watever i have caught up with...i have alwaz loved ur post n it has surely left me speechless...so today is no exception as well..😃😃😃 )

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*runs to re-read the post* 😃

PS: Redeem is undoubtedly the most over-abused word in the forum...😆😆

Originally posted by: -sylph-

res

i lubbb ya JW🤗

*res* 😃

EDIT:
I agree...everyone needs to be shown a mirror. Some need to reflect more than the others. And just by the fact that some of us want that mirror for everyone doesn't necessarily mean that we are justifying the image that we see of ASR in the mirror. We are merely accepting that image as a part of him. At the end of the day, he will do what he needs to, to be able to look at himself in the mirror. And whether we like it or not, Khushi will be the one helping him to.
Jab miya biwi raazi, to phir humari kaisi narazgi??

The episode today, IMO, was a complete episode. Each person in character. (Please know, Gotti and I still have issues). Shyam at his slimiest best, demonstrating "offense is my best defense". Payal, the otherwise meek individual, stuttering truths unconvincingly in defense of her sister. Akash not having a role or say in any matter even when his wife is openly being slandered. Nani...i am not sure what i think of her character anymore. Mami - i have my money on her - she is taking everything in. Despite her obvious dislike for the gupta sisters, i have a feeling she may come through for them eventually. If not, i will blame it on my having issues with Gotti.
Anjali - at the onset I wanted to thwack her with her thali. But on further thought, she was spot on. An emotionally fragile woman whose carefully constructed bubble had just burst. She doesn't know what to think because such things don't happen in her bubble...err..world. Everything is always sabse achcha where she is concerned. I wrote this on Anu's post as well...i don't glee is upset about shyam as much as she is about facing/surviving a life outside of her bubble. Their (arnav and anjali) past has affected them such that he became a cynic and she oblivious. How they deal with this is going to be interesting.
ASR/Arnav - the slap..the dialogues were perfect. A slap on the face hurts more on one's ego than a beating, especially when u stand in front of people who revered you. Arnav let his wife take on the raavan herself while silently supporting her. He stepped in when called upon and delivered a verdict that they probably had discussed before coming in. The screenplay was dragged and a bit extreme but then Gotti and I have issues.
And he announced that Khushi and Anjali were the most important people in his life...correct...but we all know Khushi has become a bit more important than glee.

Love your take...but when do i not 😃