GH's comment -IPKKND is a Star One style show

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Posted: 13 years ago
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I really did not want to make any posts for the next few days. But I just couldn't help myself after the reading the message from our CV Mr. Gautam Hedge.

First of all, I want to applaud Four Lions and their team of creatives for delivering some beautiful episodes since the ME. In fact, the last 2-3 epis before the ME were good too. It's easy to make mistakes but it's difficult to own up to them and even more difficult to rectify them. The PH and the cvs have done just that and I have to appreciate them for this. šŸ‘

First it was Gul Khan and now GH has directly reached out to fans, which I don't think any other makers have done. It is genuinely commendable. šŸ‘

But it doesn't mean the discussion has to stop there. As a fan I can always give my views. 😳

There are quite three things that I noticed in GH's letter to fans.

1. GH seems particularly affected by the criticisms / bashing from the fans. I will not deny that there were times when we were too harsh to the cvs. Sometimes we went overboard, bashing the cvs only to realize the next day that our assumptions were wrong.

But I also felt that GH and maybe the entire team of cvs might be a little too affected by this. Yes we do bash / criticize when things go the way wrong way or the plot doesn't live up to our expectations. But we also shower them with praises when things go write. If only the team of cvs remembered all the times we praised them. 😳

2. The PH or the CVs maybe has some trouble differentiating between online & overseas viewers and TRP viewers. Or maybe this diverse fan base is confusing them. 😳

3. It is a Star One style show on Star Plus.


We do realize it's not just Sanaya and Barun. Daljeet, Abhaas, Akshay, Deepali, Utkarsha, Jayshree T and the others work just as hard too. 😃Jokes apart, yes, we do realize the entire team works extremely hard and their efforts are praiseworthy. The crew members probably work the hardest. But can hard work be a justification for long term inconsistencies?


CVs are human beings and they can make mistakes. But how long can plot errors be overlooked? How long does it take for the cvs realize to realize the track isn't going right and it needs some work?

My question is, why is it that DABH is always able to retain its position? Now many will argue that it is a saas bahu type show. To give DABH its due credit, the show has less blooper, gripping plots, less filler epis and a consistent script; something which IPKKND fails to maintain. Does it mean DABH cast and crew work any less hard?

TRP fluctuation is normal. The IPL debate has become stale and I don't want talk about it anymore. Those of you, who follow my posts regularly, should know my take on this. I don't know if all you keep tabs on the trp graphs, but IPK is probably the only show with a drastic fall. Rankings fluctuate, but shows positioned among the top three don't usually come down to thirteen. Does GH feel reaching out to online viewers will help them recover from the trps?


IPPKND is a Star One style show on Star Plus. It makes me wonder if IPKKND is an experimental project. 😳

Having watched three SO shows DMG, MJHT and Geet, I will tell you that although I loved SO shows, the last thing I want to watch is another SO show.šŸ˜› The reason is difficult to explain.

I understand what GH means by SO style show. They were beautiful, youthful romantic tales. Just mentioning SO reminds me of some great moments. But there were no so great ones as well.

I remember the great chemistry of Star One leads, some beautiful scenes, some beautiful tracks, plenty of romance, songs, dance, fun filled moments, some intense, touching scenes but I also remember months of dragging, bloopers, meaningless tracks and characters, slapstick comedy, weeks of filler epis, villains becoming saints and sometimes no story at all.


If any of the cvs are reading this, please give us a SHOW and not a Star One Style or a Star Plus Style show. 😊


PS : We crib because we love the show. A lot. 😃

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Posted: 13 years ago
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I also wondered about the Star One comment. Interestingly enough, if this was on SO, I would not have watched it - well yeah, maybe for Barun, but perhaps they would not have had the cast they have if it were on Star One. There is a difference when making a shows particularly for a wider audience. I think it shows how the CVs and GH have not gotten their mind out of the SO mindset. The vast majority of viewers on SP are NOT youths. I don't know how you can even compare. Given what he said, I totally understand why we got toing toing, swami stuff and gobor slips. Wasn't it interesting that the younger members on the forum resonated with those tracks whereas the older members shut the tv off. It has been a year and I don't know why this isn't sinking into the PH. We love the jodi but we also love a good story. A PH can do a lot of different types of creations no doubt, but you can't base them all on the same model and expect it to stick with a different audience. Take Disney, they make animated movies, but they also made Pretty Woman. I don't think GH, PH or SP for that matter, has grasped what the audience is looking for here.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I havent read GH's letter.. but from you comments it appears he has tried to justify the drop in TRPs andthe stupid track and fillers with the pressure on them. Wasnt expecting that from the CVs..they have a long way to go and a lot to learn. They better come out of the Star one mentality. If that mentality would have worked, Star wouldnt have closed that channel. Simple.
Edited by AstuteASR - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Good write up...thou i wud like to add in to it..but i liked d way u have put it across den many other posts which hv bn floating in d forum...urs is not 1 sided..šŸ‘šŸ¼

firstly yes dey mus b under tremendous pressure for the trps...n how to rise dem bk to where dey were...

i think d prob which d Cvs r going thru is dat IPK hs not been particularly of SP genre...

for instance GH writes for saathiya as well..dat show frm d very beginning hs bn a saas bahu saga..d male leads hardly hv a role der apart frm being hubbys n not accepting der wives fr long..n being mumma' boys...

here from initial stage thou dey hv tried makin it a balance fr d young viewers along wid family viewers by hvin characters lk mami,naani,jiji,buaji etc etc sumwer down d line dey hvnt been able to show a proper mix of keepin d story of d lead pair lk a family drama or youth 1...now dat is 1 thing dey need to sort ...SP cant have a typical M n B type of romance...it ll hv to be merged wid much of family drama fr d trps...so its high time dey start mixing up family characters wid lead pair n giv dem equal space...

from last few days i hv bn reading lotsa posts abt y CVs gave BS the permission or leave fr his movie...if dey wudnt hv given him d permission even den we wud hv hd many posts here abt why the PH din allow him...poor barun he missed a chance we missed a chance n wat not...so d moral remains here dat 1 cannot impress every1...

this moral also applies on d show...u cannot impress every set of audience...tomorrow if IPK becomes typical SP show den d youth audience might not like it...n if dey keep it a youth show den family audience might not prefer it...dat m8 b d difficulty GH mentioned in his interview...

i simply dont understand why most here r taking it as a reply to dem.šŸ˜•..did he mention I-F or ny I-F posts in his interview????šŸ˜•

..its jus dat d website approached him to answer sum mails or msgs n he did dat..

...just imagine if u get 100's of hate msgs or -ve mails compared to just 10-15 of +ve or appreciation mails/msgs(current stat) what wud u reply to wid a priority..i believe d -ve posts...so dats wat he hs done in dis interview...a website approached him fr an interview n he answered the -ve posts or mails coz he thought dat is of more importance now...

we come here 1ce or 2ce in a day to dicuss d show..hv sum fun,...chat wid our frnds...d entire day of most of us is hectic...jus think u login here to d forum to have sum fun n wat u get is dat ur inbox is full wid articles abt actors leaving d show...show ending...Cvs doing crap ...dis 1 posted dat...dat1 posted dis...now jus put d Cvs in our place...dey work fr 14-15 hrs everyday...d show crew works atleast 2-3 hrs more den wat d star cast does...after d hard work of 17-18 hours u come n lgin to any social website n u get des msgs...ur priority wud b to justify...to mk dem understand dat ders an other side to it as well...dey may hv said sumthin or d other in d flow of interview...even d actors at times fumble or mk wrong statements ...bt we shud understand n take d other things wat dey have said in consideration as well...



Just think abt it guyz...dont take it as a personal attack...read it as any interview..n try understanding der POV...

hope d CVs get dis sorted soon n get bk widda bang on d trp charts...we r only viewers who turn into der fans later...but its primarily der baby...dey hv created d characters...come up wid d story...worked hard to bring up d show...n live d characters n d story till d course of d show...


what i liked in d interview specifically is d last part ...where he said show r meant fr entertainment n keep dem limited to dat...

no offense to ny1 jus my POV..
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Edited by adits7 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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since morning i am thinking about that star one style show šŸ¤” not that i am very much offended with GH's rant cause i think if we have the right he too have that right after all we love them thats why we citicize only taht they couldnt understand our love! they say IPKKND is their baby .. well your baby pays you Mr Hegde! its your job but what do we actually get that we waste our time here.. in return we ask for the thing we had been promised! 😊

first why cant we blame the CV's! when they can get credit they should have the courage to face the bashing or criticism!! i dont know if its star plus type show or star one all i know that it was supossed to be a star-crossed love story and in a star-crossed love story there is no place for comedy.. i very well know that how much hard work you do but pls,, you are not doing nay favor on us! its YOUR job.. YOUR anna-data as you yourself said but for us its all about a beautiful love story! we dont want any social massage or any star plus show or star one show.. we want a love story which will make us forget the whole day's real life!

and please dont make my mouth open! šŸ˜† your star one shows were not something special! in fact IPKKND is the best thing that happened with us and you too! kindly get some youtube help.. watch previous things and try to understand that why and what we are saying.. you create a story.. so beautiful that people dont take it as a story in fact our life starts revolving around it and then you do thinsg which make the show from #2 to #13 šŸ˜• thats what you do to your baby? šŸ˜† sadly.. online viewers holds no importance Mr Hegde! by telling all this to us nothing is gonna happen!! i guess instaed of boiling your blood reading the true things take it as a challenge and prove us that you are the very same CV's which had given such a strong story line .. (TRP;s. 4.6) 😃

p.s remember one thing our love is unconditional for your show.. and we think and we know its our show too.. dont take the audience for granted! 😳

Posted: 13 years ago
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Thanks for this post Fari even i noticed that comment and was wondering lol. Will comment in edit in few hours...gotta go x
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Oh yes! The 'SO' show.. Hehe, bt, frm where did the 0TT Comedy by heroine came in SP?? Oh yes..! Did they want it to air it on 'POGO' too?;-) to kids, you knw, the 'catch them young theory';-)
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Posted: 13 years ago
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loved your post

they said we are harsh , why we are harsh , as we love them , we want them to do their best like before . it is we who are with them since start and will be till the end . i really dont get them here

how much we love them they cannot even think of that


šŸ˜• style can be any just dont waste it
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Whats the diffetence between a Star One and a Star Plus show ? The latter has a bigger budget ? They have certainly kept their costs down, if we look at the clothes Khushi's been wearin throughout !""
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: momma1128

I also wondered about the Star One comment. Interestingly enough, if this was on SO, I would not have watched it - well yeah, maybe for Barun, but perhaps they would not have had the cast they have if it were on Star One. There is a difference when making a shows particularly for a wider audience. I think it shows how the CVs and GH have not gotten their mind out of the SO mindset. The vast majority of viewers on SP are NOT youths. I don't know how you can even compare. Given what he said, I totally understand why we got toing toing, swami stuff and gobor slips. Wasn't it interesting that the younger members on the forum resonated with those tracks whereas the older members shut the tv off. It has been a year and I don't know why this isn't sinking into the PH. We love the jodi but we also love a good story. A PH can do a lot of different types of creations no doubt, but you can't base them all on the same model and expect it to stick with a different audience. Take Disney, they make animated movies, but they also made Pretty Woman. I don't think GH, PH or SP for that matter, has grasped what the audience is looking for here.


Exactly Anu !!

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