Note from Gautam Hegde - writer of IPKKND - Page 10

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Posted: 13 years ago
#91

Thank you for your note!

I have spent my whole life assiduously avoiding watching any Indian drama serial. Whether it was my mother, my father, my sister, my extended family or friends i actually had to physically leave the room when one was on, just to get away from all the saas bahu drama. I understand that there is a huge market for such shows, and perhaps being British born i don't quite have the emotional connection to such situations, but i hate that kind of thing. So, i never gave any Indian serial a chance as i assumed they just weren't made with me in mind.

However last December i was literally forced to stay in the same room with extended family as EVERYONE else (in their teens, 30's, 40's and 60) watched something called Iss Pyaar Ko Kya Naam Doon. They went through 2 recorded episodes. By the end of the 2nd episode i was mildly surprised at the lack of friction between any saas's or bahu's and quite interested in the friction between the female lead and the male lead and how well it was written and acted out. I started to ask questions about what was going on, who was in love with or hated who, what was the premise.

Having to watch another episode the next day with the same family members i found that i enjoyed the fact that both the main characters seemed to have quite loving and normal families, behaving similarly to mine here and in india, and that i could actually relate to a lot of what was happening on screen. It seemed real and actually the characters seemed like real people. And i could finally understand why my family members were getting emotional about someone called Khushiji!

I went home eager to figure out if this was a fluke or if other episodes held up to this standard and watched back all the shows of the week before. Still impressed. So i went back another week, then another, then another, then another until i hit mid November and realised i should probably start from the beginning. By this point of course i dont just love the show, i also love Khushi and Arnav. I love the writing, i love the dialogues, i love the language, i love that it reminds me of the India i see when i visit, i love the actors, i love the situations, i love the rabba ve's, i love the fighting, i love the romance, i love the similarities and the differences between the leads, i love the little touches and idiosyncracies of each character, i even love that Khushi's dupatta has a role to play.

It feels modern and yet timeless and has a classiness and charm that cannot be matched by anything i have seen before or since on tv (and i watch a lot of tv) I am hugely impressed. I have loved shows before and loved characters but never have i been obsessed in this way. I think you and your team are absolutely amazing. Whoever conceived Khushi's and Arnav's characters did a wonderful job and obviously spent a lot of time and effort creating them. They are multi layered, they are well rounded, they are interesting, they are intriguing, they draw you in emotionally and are easy not just to love but to forgive. So i just wanted to say thank you, and to tell you that you are doing a fabulous job. This show is your baby and you made me fall in love with it, so i will always trust that whatever you're doing is what is best for it.

I am still unable to watch any other Indian television serial. I tried, after loving IPKKND so much i thought perhaps i've been missing out all these years and so gave the others a try. But my previous views still seem to hold about every other show out there, they are unwatchable for me. Except yours. You have created something unique and obviously know what you are doing.
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Posted: 13 years ago
#92
Updated on Page 2 - thanks again for sharing with us, CVs - we appreciate it very much!
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Posted: 13 years ago
#93

Originally posted by: serialjunkie

Build them and they shall come


Give us quality product and we will watch. Simple

Marketing 101.

Agree with you SJ...
and GH...you have done it before...till Dec you didn't have to make a post like this...it's not like production trouble set in after the MU track...they were always there...what's happened in last 3 months?
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Posted: 13 years ago
#94
Dear CVs 😉

It's great to see that the PH/CVs actually reading the FAN's reactions...and getting affected by it and reacting to it as well .. 😊
Anyways... point taken... you have all rights to defend yourselves and to err is human...

IPKKND has become a phenomena... and you know it very well hence your message... !

I am sure you know how to pick ONLY constructive criticism and work on it.. rather than getting annoyed with all sorts of negative criticism that's going around in the Forums. Mind you .. the amount of negative criticism will always be more and it is a tough task to find the constructive ones from it...
!!!


It's understood that it's a daily soap and every episode cannot be top notch .. what everyone wants here is a steady progress in the story which was lacking for the past few months. But since last couple of weeks .. it has progressed nicely even with Barun's absence.. please keep the same momentum 😊

All the best ..and keep delivering your best which you have done till now. This is the only show I watch and will never leave until it is off the air ... even then I might be killing YT 😆

Cheers,
Monsi
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Posted: 13 years ago
#95
Just keep up with the good job and I agree with your post!! Plus thanks for taking time out to read..atleast it shows that you guys read some comments. So thank you for that and telling your side of things and its the 1st show that i haven't missed an episode out of which is a.miracle for me haha ago bravo to you guys for that!! :)
Edited by .._sonii_.. - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
#96

Originally posted by: incandescent

thanks...


Please read all the comments on this post...cause we deserve that...We will always love u all...but now im hurt too😕...So what are ur comments for us??? Again, plz read the red bold words at the top...do u know how many posts are made here, spreading rumors and making us so mad...seriously mad...Then we wait for a reliable source to come n calm us down...U dont show promos...In USA...we get promos after that episode is played...So no use...What can we do? When u love...its unconditional...we appreciate ever scrap thats thrown to us...beggers cant be choosers...

Its ur baby...n i know u love it more than us...but we love it too...n we have high expectations with u and ur team...give us that...n then see...😊
Edited by Fazila~ - 13 years ago

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Posted: 13 years ago
#97
Just wrote about this on the other thread. . will copy it here just to share again. . .guess felt strongly enf 😆

First of all, thank you GH for your insights. . .sincerely appreciate the effort that you made by putting your thoughts across and more IMPORTATNLY for giving us IPK

agree with you. . . we compare, we micro evaluate, we bash instead of enjoying the current moment. . . .

we the audience have the tendency to look at each episode individualistically vs. collectively. . . . . .and since each episode is not a standalone story it is very difficult to "judge" the rationale of the current track. . . as only U the CVs know the purpose of showing a track and until it plays out the spectators do not know what the intention of it was/is. . . . . . .perhaps it is shown because it is a necessary link to tie future episodes with the current storyline. . .Due to lack of this insight the uproar and abuse arise

critique and a dialogue is important and a viewers right. . .however certain segment of the fan group tends to jump the gun even before all the cards are out in the open. . .so, at least verdict about current episode/s should also weigh the dynamics of previous storyline (not talking about execution of scenes here--just the progression of the narrative's footpath). . .

. . .GH u made a reference to a movie. . . feel members need to understand that one does not critique a movie while its being made or watch a scene in it as a standalone and analyze the whole movie. . .that's what I feel is happening to our show by the viewers. . . there is tendency to evaluate an episode (a scene in a movie) rather than look at all episodes of a track collectively. . .while u the CV's bring together the past and the present superbly. . . .

there are many examples of shows being ruined when the Creative teams changes storyline at the WHIM of the audience . . .it is the writers story and neither the audiences' nor the channel heads' . . .so when these entities start interfering and change ensues. . . the storyline suffers. . . . . . . . .since the cornerstone of the idea is not the writers anymore . . .he or she does not have the same conviction. . . they would otherwise have, had the story remained theirs to tell. . . with no one demanding nor dictating changes

I for one like to LET WRITERS TELL THEIR STORY and then decide if it was substantiated or not. .

About the negative commentatory from the viewers, remember that CV will get shorter end of the stick by default because the burden of proof ie " carrying the show" lies with them. . .

One thing would like share though. . . I do not expect each and every episode to be poignant, nor hilarious, nor acting at par excellence each and every time. . .but I do expect the team to have a desire to want to execute as to avoid obvious mistakes that are visible even to the naked eye of an inexperienced audience. . .

Fillers are necessary,. . . Actors and the crew are working very hard. . . The main leads need breaks. . .IPL is there. . .Weather changes plans. . . I understand fully and wholeheartedly. . .However amongst all this, the pride one should have for work should not be compromised. . . sometimes I feel CV's spin out an episode. . . due to work pressure or what not. . . that just says it's not perfect but IT WILL HAVE TO DO . . .and that's the mentality I have problem with. . .good enough should not be sufficient for this team (for anyone in fact, but that's a matter of opinion and I accept it). . .should aim for excellence as a team regardless of the fact that it is a filler or an story progressing episode. . .

Finally, trust there will be complainers and whiner always. . .can't do anything about that. . .let them vent, guess they have every right as well. But ALWAYS remember, we love that 4 lions followed through with their vision and gave us IPK. So, please the ENTIRE team take a bow and keep on doing the brilliant job u all are doing. U guys DESERVE all the accolades and then some.


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Posted: 13 years ago
#98

Hi,

I would like to comment on some specific justifications which you have raised in your post:

NO, we do not expect the ride to be smooth but we also do not expect that the show makers give in to each & every pressure they face - be it from the channel, cast & crew, frenzied fans et al.

The ONLY EXPECTATION of a regular viewer of a 4 Lions show is that of a nuanced story telling and executed with well designed episodes. The audience expects a 4 Lions story to make sense and nothing more. The show started off in June 2011 with the promise of a different love story and is lucky to have a tremedously talented set of CVs and actors who have breathed life into the story, but has been consistently failing to deliver since the forced ArHi marriage.

The reason you are facing the outburst of criticism and low TRPs in the last 3 months is because the show seems to have compromised on these fundamental strengths -

(a) Lost characterizations

You spent 8 months in etching the characteristic traits of Arnav, Khushi, Shyam and Anjali in the minds of viewers and then conveniently forgot about the same traits when you made:

- Khushi think of 101 ways to annoy ASR to get the truth out when she should have been emotionally tormented with the forced marriage;

- Khushi & Arnav throw water at each other at AR office (its an office for God's sake and ASR is the owner);

- Khushi strategize to save AR designs from Sethi brothers (isnt ASR a tycoon, how come they can be fooled by chindi con men);

- Arnav forget about Khushi's Holi confession for almost a month and not try to investigate whether what he saw on the terrace was the full picture (Arnav's mind seems to be in a brain freeze mode since the terrace day);

- Arnav strip left, right and centre without any reason (if this was meant to be for the droolers, then better idea is to get BS to shoot some bare torso stills and post online and trust me it will do better than it did for the show);

- Shyam appear only for a few mins once in 3 episodes without any insight into his plan of action (this is the only villain in ArHi's life and he was glaringly missing in action post marriage);

- ASR confessing love to Khushi over phone without any prelude as to his present condition (the whole anticipation which was build over the months on ASR's confession went down the drain);

- Khushi dream of Arnav running around the pool (well, agreed ASR looks like more like a gali ka chokra these days but please do not make him do such lover boy antics because we still have the reserved, angry yoin man ASR printed on our mind and hearts)

You may have forgotten your characters, but the viewers have not and 90% of the flak is because post ArHi marriage, the 3 protagonists have lost their defining characteristics.

(b) Failure to develop side tracks post ArHi marriage and extremely slow movement in the storyline

If IPK was intended to be a star crossed love story, it cannot focus only on ArHi, right? Star-crossed means outside forces play a role in keeping the lovers apart/together. Then how can you say that IPK is a romantic show and people are watching it only for ArHi? If that would have been the case, your TRPs would not have nosedived post ArHi marriage.

The ordinary viewer of this show watches it to see that in spite of all external circumstances and obstacles, there is a deep love connection between the leads which will reign supreme in the end. That the two families, each member of the Raizadas and Gupta's have a role in bringing the lovers together and helping them against the odds. The viewer loves the caustic Manorama mami, the doting Nani, the adorable Gupta ladies and of course Bauji (if you guys still remember him, that is).

Prior to Lavanya's exit, the parallel events constantly involved the family members of ArHi and that made for wholesome viewing. But after the ArHi marriage and SPA 2012, all the tracks are only revolving on ArHi chemistry whether it makes for sensible viewing or not, does not seem to matter anymore. Can't recall how and why did NK returned to Sydney without saying bye to anyone. Then came bubbli with her possessiveness for Akash, she was misused to create tension between Payash but after clearing the smoke, could also have been used constructively to make three of them a story in itself. But of course, you know better.

Since March, each episode took up 15 mins screen time on showing ASR stripping / ArHi screaming at each other, but next episode it seemed like nothing happened the previous day and ArHi is randomly eye locking on Rabba Ves. No progress in ArHi relation or the story even after 3 months in real time. If you expect the viewers to put with this, then you should get the Channel to do a more comprehensive survey of the viewer demography for your better understanding.

I fully appreciate that you have to keep changing/bending the tracks to accommodate the availability of the cast & crew, however, this does not justify compromises in (i) how the characters are supposed to think, behave & react on the screen OR (ii) the basic threads of your storyline.

Your real hero is your story and script and only when it is tightly in place, will ArHi chemistry work. In the last few months, it appears that the show makers have lost sight of the story and are just yielding to pressure from particular segment of fans for more Arhi scences or BS scenes without having regard to the story or the sensibilities of the characters. The result is in front of you! LOW TRPs and scathing criticism, now, if this leads to pressure from other corners, who is to be blamed?

(c) Spoilers and news on off-screen drama flooding online forums

Lastly, if you are concerned with the fan freazy, you should also keep a lid on what is happening behind the screens. You have so many people out there who reveal what is going to happen in the upcoming episodes or what's in the mind of the show makers and you also post spolier pics, that there is no anticipation in the viewers. Coupled with his, stories about your actors quitting also generates nothing but negativity and a mad frenzy. The story makes the actor a star and not the other way round and who will know this better than you guys. For a PH, actors quitting is nothing new and must be happening all the time but it should be managed judiciously, which clearly has not happened in the case of recent news revolving SI, BS and DB.

To sum it all up: REVIVE YOUR VISION OF WHAT YOU HAD SET OUT TO NARRATE IN JUNE 2011 and NOT GIVE IN TO FANS' DEMANDS OR ANYBODYS DEMANDS. YOUR SHOW WILL BE BACK ON TRACK EVEN BEFORE YOU REALISE!
Rgds,
M
Edited by malsub - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
#99
thank you mr. hegde to write a post for us we are so waiting for it and yes we understand you are doing a outstanding job as a cv but what we do we just get scared when our show trp is dipping people saying bad thing about it we are just too addicted to iss pyaar ko that we just loved this show and never want anything go bad about our show.we want our show became a no1 show as it really deserve to be no.1 as it has a outstanding team but we just get angry when we see little goofed up in some track of our show.i always love this show for its intense story and want to see that its the only of which i have became addicted and never miss a single episode from its starting.i love your show and want its run for forever so i am thanking you from my bottom of heart for giving such a absolutely fantablous show.dont worry about criticism when you love something too much and that goes little bad you criticise it firstly as you dont want other can criticis it.
and if you are reading this please show something very special on 6th june as a anniversery gift for us.once again thanks a lot.
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Posted: 13 years ago
Well Mr. Hegde,
So many posts within a few minutes. This shows the popularity of ur creation IPK and u should be proud of it rather that taking it negatively. Now that u have raised the bar u have to pay for it, simple. In all fields in this world ppl have to work hard to make their mark and no body can say that the other's job is easier. However, the practical and hard truth remains the fact that it is the end product that matters. Nobody cares about the amount of hard work that has been put behind the job, and this is true for any job in this world. So if u r ready for the applauds then u should be ready for the criticism also. U r lucky that u don't have to take the sole responsibility of ur success or failure on ur shoulder, there are many professions here which r like that. So if ppl r paising the actors then it is just becoz they r the face of ur creation, they are the end product, that's it. That does not mean that ppl do not acknowledge ur effort.

Now coming to the show. Well none of the tv serials can be hard core realistic, and specially the ones targeted to the mass audience, otherwise it will become a documentary and not a daily soap. Infact they r supposed to be somewhat unrealistic so that ppl can see what they wanna see/have in their real life but can not. However, even with these considerations I would like to ask, what was the need of the slack story line in march and april with khushi's ridiculous approach to serious issues. What is bubbly, masala and clown detectives dng in the show, they dont add anything to the show other than irritating the audiences. And don't ask me to get started with the sudden character changes of the various protagonists in the show ! There is a limit of being unrealistic, otherwise the show would be fit for Pogo or disney or nick channel !

Eventualities and sudden changes can be overcome by logical side tracks with the ensemble cast, most of whom just seem to loiter in the screen without doing anything. Even if u don't care about anything else, do care abt the TRPs coz they count, more to u and ur team than to us. Audience can be bothered with the TRPs but their life won't be effected even if the show shuts down, it is u and ur team who will be the sufferer.

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