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Heyy All,
What a beautiful culmination to a week of delightful episodes ..The episode was a drooler's delight, Analyst's paradise, Gutter minds Heaven !!
Couple of things began to clear out today.. Heart has begun to merge with class and lines between classes are blurring, Khushi's awakening , Arnav's thinning patience and eruption ..
Darkness has come, the newly weds are tottering and stumbling in the darkness, unable to find their way out the labyrinth ..Buaji opens the door to the neighbors who have come for an explanation ...Buaji apologetically explains the reason but the good natured neighbors are understanding , assure Buaji of no ill will and leave the premise in good humor ..
A good beginning to the scene.. I really liked the attention to the detail given here, Khushi being a family member knows where each and every items are placed but Arnav is not and he dashes against the table not knowing the positioning of the table, a subtle underlining of his status as a outsider and a guest ..Again the lesson on heart was reinforced when the neighbors accepted the reason and when Buaji solicitously enquires whether she can fan Arnav until sleep comes .. Has Arnav ever been subjected to such care,such concern, Such attention !!
Now comes the most interesting part and every Analysts delight ; The couple retire for the night , Khushi glaring at Arnav in the dark and muttering" Jaisi karni waise Bharni " ..Not just content with this she lets loose two other gems," of Uthar - Pashchim and Kabootar ..
Jaisi Karni waise Bharni >>>>> As ye sow , so shall ye reap !! ..Who says this?? Khushi , to whom?? Arnav !! .. Does this imply that Arnav who had been having a home run and was cruising towards the lifting of the trophy will be stopped and his victory snatched or is this directed towards Khushi ...The more I thought about it, the more I felt that at this juncture , this proverb is applicable to Khushi.. She is the one who is irritating the life out of Arnav, mocking love, deriding relationships at every chance she gets, Khushi has brought Arnav with the intention of humiliating him , teaching him a lesson but it will be Khushi who will end up learning .. The plans meant for Arnav will backfire on her .. That her pranks and behavior are born out of frustration, anger and confusion is understandable but at the same time, I do feel that when she has pushed and goaded Arnav too far, she will face swift, straightforward annihilation which will strike at her very roots, which will mock at all the things she held dear , which will crush her !!..Always remember Arnav has been at his calmest when he is about to go deadly .. He was calm when he began the Faraq Padtha hai , torturing her emotionally and Psychologically, he was calm when he laid that condition for marriage , He was calm before throwing her out !! A calm Arnav is a dangerous Arnav !!
The second one was the the comparison of Arnav and herself as 'North and West ' ..
When I heard this , I was aghast for a second as I simply did not know on how to relate this ..North & South are understandable, West and East can be related but North & West !! ..One is at the pinnacle while the other is the left hand of the pinnacle ...I was confused and elated at having to solve this puzzle ..Let me take u through the process of my thinking .
The simplest and ofc the easiest decoding of this is ;..North is at the top suggesting head in other words Mind ergo Arnav , the thinker ..who stays at North and is considered the Mind part of the Arnav-Khushi Combo... while West is always to the left of North and what is in the left of the body .. Heart !! Who is the heart , the soul of this relationship..Yes, Indeed ...It is Khushi...There we have our North & West easily explained ..it is again a oblique reference made to the Mind and Heart of IPKKND i,e; Arnav & Khushi !!
But could it be so easy or do we have a layered nuances here ..The more I thought about it ..The greater grew the conviction that there is something more to it than what is obvious ... In my earlier REDUX, I had brought out the hidden symbolism's between Ramayan and IPKKND and also compared Arnav to Krishna/Paarth ...Today I derive from another source..I quote from the Book of Jeremiah, Jeremiah 46-20: "destruction cometh; it cometh out of the north"...when u read this , u will understand that the dots gets connected .. we begin with Buaji who moans that Khushi always brings a storm with her ..Then we have Khushi saying ' Jaisi Karni ..."..we have also got Arnav fixated as Krishna/Paarth ... when we take this together .. we begin to have a glimmer ...Khushi , The Impulsive Khushi , the short sighted Khushi will be unleashing a tornado, Arnav, the North will be the one who will be letting loose this destruction and why would he destroy his very own family [albeit extended one].. we dip into Freemasons this time ,'We learn from the first degree lecture, that "there are three lights in a Lodge...There is none in the north"In "King Solomon's Temple...the sun and moon...could dart no ray of light into the north part thereof. The north, therefore, we term a place of darkness"....Yes, bec the North is in darkness ..The North has not had the benefit of light, benefit of truth .. Arnav will lash out in blind ignorance not knowing that there is such a thing as truth for he is convinced of the darkness residing in him , in Khushi and in shyam...,
There you see so, North & West easily explained once u delve into it , BUT again I thought if it was about just Arnav and Khushi why bring in the home ..why say ..Ur home is in the North instead of U stay in the North ..Then I thought the key is the Home !! ..so let me ask the obvious question..What makes a home..Is it the doors, windows and Roofs ..evidently no !!..It is the members , the family who make up a home ..Let me make a head count of Arnav's family... Nani, Mama-Mami, Payal-Akash , Arnav-Khushi, Anjali &&& SHYAM !!! .. when I recollected Shyam, I understood that the house in Uthar was not just for Arnav , it also stood for Shyam !! ...
Things began to pan out in my mind after this..Once again , Let me begin my journey from the Book Of Jeremiah !! Jeremiah 1-13/14 we find: "What seest thou? And I said, I see a seething pot; and the face thereof is toward the north. Then the Lord said unto me, out of the north an evil shall break forth upon all the inhabitants of the land".
Yes.. Pretty soon there is going to be a seething pot, the situations churning and in flux as on the one hand Khushi will be getting the answer to what she seeks, Arnav's suspicion rising , Shyam beginning to have a marginally upper hand initially and Shyam will release the evil , it could be the contents in the file , it could be an indirect attack on Arnav or it could be a direct physical assault on Khushi !! ..Shyam will be the evil from the North , Shyam will be the evil North ..so where does that live Arnav.. Haven't we said already.. He will be the Krishna/Paarth.. the person who will be driving his own chariot and fighting against his own kin to uphold the values of truth, Arnav will be the Krishna who will enter the battlefield to pierce and eradicate the darkness, he will be the protective shield to the Gupta's cos Arnav has always been a just man. !!
I f we think that we have resolved the issue of House and direction...then Let me disabuse you of that notion cux the conundrum continues ... 😊..If it was about Arnav's family and its members ..why bring west into it ??.. so here again I switched back to thinking that the North served dual purpose ...The House in North stood for Shyam but North by itself stood for Arnav !!...If we now consider North as Arnav, Khushi as West makes for perfect sense ...
What does North stand for ??
"As high pines kiss north skies, we stand tall in our growth. We provide, we expand, we rule thunderously as the buffalo."..This very much explains Arnav ..He is a man towering over both the families with none matching him in stature !! He is the provider , He has expanded and now includes both the homes and he does rule over both..Not bothering to take the members of the Gupta's into his counsel before ordering AC ..deciding whats best in that situation ..This has been the Hall mark of Arnav as is of North !!
In the Celtic religion North was considered as a plce of security, of home and who better than Arnav to provide that security , protecting both the homes from the evil of the North !!
Now we come to the West ..
while East has been the cradle of civilization,the Mother ..West by virtue is the new , undiscovered territory, the young kid who has been born ..Khushi to Arnav is yet a undiscovered territory, a less civilized child who needs to be looked after and just as the west, holding many secrets and promises for the future ..
Taking the Celtic symbolism.. West has been associated with Water, Movement & emotions ..What is water but a life giver, a purifier ..Water by its constant movement also cleanses the dirt accumulated leading to a new beginning ..Doesn't this suit Khushi, who holds the chalice of Life ...If she lets go of the Chalice ..she will be destroying 3 lives but A unmoving, still water becomes stagnant , the content becomes toxic , instead of giving life, it will slowly and inexorable kill the very life it sought to protect and nurture ..it is here the water has to move, freshen itself, cleanse itself of its impurities and that can come about when the accumulated dirt is thrown out ...
Let me conclude the North -West pointer by bringing in the Native American's.. Lakota, for example hold to the following guideline:
North = wisdom/thought
West = conclusions/fullness
Arnav the Man of thought, the man who connects the dots will get the full details from the West and West will help him in drawing a conclusion !!
If things had gone ur way then , You would be sleeping with the Pigeons..But we do not find Arnav sleeping with the Pigeons Do we..Pigeons have been associated with Pure, chaste, loving marriage ..Pigeons usually bond until death ..But the marriage of Khushi & Arnav violates all the things that the Pigeon stands for , hence the banishment of Arnav from Pigeons tree !! ...On the other hand, Pigeons are said to have a strong homing sense, take them anywhere and release them , they unerringly make their way home !! Arnav has been brought into alien territory but like a homing Pigeon he will be on track of truth and on track of winning his love..
Morning dawns and sweaty Arnav wakes up to see that He has become part of Khushi's mattress, An irritated Arnav turns to look at her, intending to blast her off with his eyes alone when he is bewitched by her beauty, His hand which had enclosed around Khushi's fist , slowly encircles it in a gentle clasp ..quietly watching her breathing ..the world at a stand still..He dons his jogging shoes and begins to run when he is accosted by Body builders who try to coax him into working out with them , Arnav declines but egged on by Khushi, he firmly shows off to her, earning the respect admiration of the BB crowd , Much to the chagrin of Khushi ...
Again the continuation was bang on..Arnav troubled by heat and waking up wiping the sweat ..Good one.. Loved the brief moment when Arnav gently clasps Khushi's hand.. that one action showing his yearning for her, his helplessness , his lack of control .. Khushi stirs, he takes off his hand but not hers, he allows her to claim him but does not enforce his will on her and waits for her !!
Arnav begins to jog and comes across the training ground .. The BG music when Arnav joins the earthy BB's was quite interesting..His signature tune was merging with the desi beat suggesting that the mighty ASR is slowly accepting the lower class and has begun to blend in smoothly ..he is still ASR but changed man ...
The lifting of weights ..how suggestive can the CV's be... Arnav first does weights with one wooden bat.. that would be the love he has for Khushi, when suddenly in the middle he pauses and lifts another burden, the burden of Khushi's affair with Shyam.. he manages to balance it both deftly, never going off wire but the balancing act costs him, it is sapping at his emotions, he is weakening but yet he continues , not letting go until done to his satisfaction...
The quip, Manjhe hue Khiladi hai'...implies that he is a man who shud not be under estimated and that he knows the games, its rules and will play by the necessary rules at given time surprising one and all or is it a hint to us viewer's saying that the PH are experts and know which card to reveal at the chosen time !!
Arnav comes towards Khushi, still carrying the mighty wooden staff , Khushi offers him water ..In return, Arnav asks her to hold on to one of the staff , Khushi is unable to hold on to it and is about to let go when Arnav control the fall, takes it away from her and shoulders it himself ..Khushi yields to him and allows him to carry the burden instead of her usual , " No, I'll do it myself, I don't need ur help " speech .. It is only after this is the water accepted and Arnav is anointed as the 'Chosen one ' by sprinkling the water atop his Head !!
We have seen the North/West in action.. How Arnav will be the one who will think it out while Khushi will provide the push towards the truth,Arnav will begin to connect the dots and Khushi will provide the final picture.. The picture will make sense to Arnav and he will stand like the 'Ped/Tree ' covering the Gupta ladies ...In accordance with his mission, he has even begun training and just like a warrir is anointed with tilak, so has been Khushi anointed Arnav using water . but when will the time come ??The constant emphasis on the time in the latter half suggests that the showdown is imminent, first it will be between Arnav and Gupta's..it could be a showdown or it could be a explosion.
Arnav is stopped everytime he is almost at the doorstep of truth...we saw Buaji stopping him, we saw Khushi stopping him.. but then he finally will not be stopped and that is when a precious suggestion comes from Buaji, Buaji tells Arnav to manage the flow of water, if opened incautiously it will flood the washroom , inundating him too.. Arnav appears to heed the suggestion,,... Will Arnav act wisely and just allow such amount of information that will allow him to tackle Shyam or will he explode devastating every one's life ...??
The dirty laundry which has been kept safely inside is brought out by Arnav and it is Buaji's which comes out first, does that mean, Buaji will be the first one to crack in the Gupta's clan and reveal information about Shyam or will Arnav pries it out of her ..
Khushi holder of 3 cans ..if it was 3 towels earlier now it is 3 cans , She states her family motto of restoring things to its place But we find her outside at the threshold unable to do so and Arnav is the one who begins to do it but not before displacing the 3 cans and confirming Khushi's, " You always make things worse before controlling and managing it !!
Originally posted by: --sumana13--
Thank You, Sumana 😃
I know I am late , sweetie..But I was out of the house this weekend, so it was delayed..So sorry for getting u all anxious..
I am fine, Hun... Thank you so much for asking * Hugs*😛
excellent view regarding north-west combitnation tantya. brilliant..i didnot know about this.last three paragraphs made so much of meaning..You always make things worse before controlling and managing it !!
Originally posted by: IPKKNDFAN29
How will this go Anna -- the sweetone, that was jus for teasing 😛& Love ur take of addressing me
Originally posted by: NaDzGirl
hey GK & gurls 🤗
wow you gurls have mastered da analyzing methods and bravo!! im tongue tied and dumbstruck on this side...i missed da show for two weeks as i was away from da country; holidaying in india for a change. i thought i'd miss da show a lot but when i came back and checked da epis, nothing has happened man. da story hasn't moved an inch... hmpfanyways im charged up thanks to mishti's promo spoiler cuz finally something is happening... looking forward to da coming week and more on nanav's redemption track
Originally posted by: mouramen
hi Tant, amazing is d word.👏
we have been discussing about d north and west and d pigeons at lenght.but i just loved ur pov abt d dirty linens and d three cans.wonderful dear.
Originally posted by: sonshine
hi everyone on this thread
my name is appu. i have been a silent reader of you all for a few days now and i find your analysis and discussions simply fantastic! i must appreciate you all and a very big thank u as well. will i be welcome if i wanted to join u now and then?
Or Anna, the ever Apologetic one * after all she is only person, I know who was asked WHY WAS SHE ANGRY ON ARNAV? N who spent the entire day Uttak Bhaitaking **😆
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