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Posted: 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: pamk06

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Wow, Tanthya what a lovely post!!! It is fantastic!!! 👏👏👏


Below is my analysis:


Yes, you are right. As explained by you , during the dance, Payal was equidistance from both the parties but I think, in the end, she will be with Khushi and will be supported by Mami. I say this because of the placement of characters in the car as seen below





Again here Anjali and Aakash are missing. Arnav and Nani are on the front seat, both in their own ways , head of the family. Khushi and Arnav, diagonal to each other, that is, though opposite in many ways, they are still connected through invisible bonds. Mami is behind Arnav as she will always support him and follow his directions but diagonally opposite to Nani, as they are opposites in opinion, in behavior, in logic but still together in real life. Last is, Payal between Mami and Khushi, being the connection who will always support Khushi and via Payal, Mami will connect to Khushi and support her. Another thought would be that even if Payal does support Khushi, she will also ensure that it is not at the cost of her relationship with Mami, that she will support and maintain both the relationships.


Knife of Truth



I think that when times comes, Khushi will confront Arnav with the truth, ask him for an explanation, ask him why he did not believe her ask him why he did not trust her i.e. in Doods words, she will ask him "Ek baar to pooch liya hota". Arnav Singh Raizada, being true to his character will get angry and be rude. He will pull the knife from her hand and point it to Khushi, asking her for an explanation, asking her why she did not confess to him,why did she not tell him the truth, why did she hide it. That time, Khushi will remind him that she hid the truth in the same way he hid the truth and for exactly the same reason i.e his sister's well being and her blind love for Shyam. She will ask him that if he was not wrong, how can she be wrong, how can he hold her at fault when he is also at fault. She will remind him that just as he did not ask her for truth because he believed a lie, she did not tell him because she believed a truth, that Arnav loved his sister more than anything in this world. Arnav will accept her truth, will accept that she was right, that she did right, that she deserves the credit that is due to her and thus he will throw her knife of truth away for ever and it will never be brought up again, never be picked up by him.



Meethai mein zeher milai devat hain, woh heer pehle kawat hai aur unke praan nikal jaawat hain, aur heer ko na bachane ke dukh mein, raanja ne bhi meethai kah li aur apni jaan de di.


What a subtle way of describing the future. Heer's chacha gives her the mithai, which Heer eats not knowing it is poison. Thus, I think , Shyam will entice Khushi into a trap or a confrontation with a lure of a sweet, a sweet that might be that he has changed, that finally he has accepted Anjali and her child, that he wants to apologize to Khushi for his past behavior. Khushi might fall for this enticement of the sweet because this is what she wants, this is what she desires. She might enter the trap, she might accept the sweet not knowing that it is filled with poison, the poison being the truth behind Arnav's and her marriage, the truth behind Arnav's chot, the truth behind his sudden change in behavior and the truth behind the death of her dreams. Thus as the meethai killed Heer, the truth will kill Khushi's hope, that hope that Arnav will believe her, Arnav will forgive her, Arnav will accept her when he finds out about Shyam. The truth will kill that hope which is still alive somewhere in her heart that she might have a happy ever after. The truth will kill that hope that she might have a special place in his life. The truth will be the mirror of reality which will tell that that he has the lowest of low opinion of her that he hates her, that he does not trusts her, that his verdict without a jury was not a second chance as she had hoped for but it was that "Khushi Kumari Gupta is a cheater", a truth that will and is worse than death for Khushi.


As Heer ate that Meethai unknowingly, Ranja eats the meetai knowing that its posion.Similarly Arnav will know that he will be drinking poison, he will be getting a repeat of the posionous truth that will break him, kill him again, will be death of him but he will still follow his heart, his Khushi, even if its means to die. Poison is what he will be get but this poison will be much more lethal, much more dangerous than the one that he got on that fateful day. It will be so lethal that he will be staggered,he will stunned because he will know that his base was all wrong, his reality was all wrong, his thinking was all wrong. He will know that his Khushi was innocent and had always has been innocent, that she was always the person he thought her to be, that she was always his pure etnernal light. He will know that in his ignorance he has done the unspeakable for which there is no pardon, that he has done the unforgivable for which there is no forgiveness, that he has done the sinful for which there is no remorse, that he has lost the love and forgiveness of that one person that he had always hoped to love, that he has finally lost the "chahat" which was always his "zaroorat".


And he will finally accept that without Khushi Kumar Gupta - Singh Raizada, Arnav Singh Raizada has no life, no existence, no "wajood"




PS1

Pool: CV's, IMO, you guys have so messed up on this. If you remember the initial episodes, and especially the episode, when Khushi comes to RM the second time to give the files to ASR, Anjali points her in the direction of the pool, stating that Arnav's room is downstairs next to the pool. Afterwards, you forgot about this fact and shifted his room to the top floor. If you would have stuck to the original location, there would have been no questions about the position of the pool but as you did not, please explain to us the location of the pool with respect to Arnav's room and the living room i.e. how it connects these two rooms especially when one is on top floor the other is below or if we are missing some architecture design.


PS2:

Barun, your expressions are priceless, but as Tanthya said, do speak up and speak clearly, sometimes it is just so difficult to understand your words.


PS3:

A random thought, all us have speculated on the position of each and every member of Raizada in the coming confrontation but no one has mentioned Mamaji, why? Hai na sochne ki baat...may be as usual he will give us his amazing one liners for laughs just to reduce the intensity of MU.😆




Briliiant Pam!!! ClapClapClap Could not have said it any better! 😊 Loved the Heer Ranjha bit the most!
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Posted: 13 years ago
#73


... what is irritating is the lack of intensity between the actors... These two are in pain and anger and at the same time they have to fight their attraction and love ...

Couldn't agree with you more! It's actually a pity that despite having such brilliant actors, the CVs have not been able to script intense scenes between the leads or monologues. In the name of intensity and passion, all we got were truckloads of tears from Arnav-Khushi (ably supported by Anjali, Payal and Garima), the family's incessant rebuke for 2 weeks, Arnav's bipolar reactions (thanks to Ghajini inspired moments), Arnav's manhandling Khushi, Khushi's screaming and screeching and finally her super defense mechanism at play (no matter what happens to my life and heart, I will shut my eyes to the reality and still sing in the rain). What promised to be an emotional journey of the soul mates to discovering that their hearts beat as one has sadly turned into a patch-work of emotions. So disappointed with the way this track played out.
I have never followed any serial with so much interest, but now with each passing day I feel like such an idiot!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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@Tanthya - wonderful analysis as usual 😊
@Doodleberry - I will miss reading your analysis but I do understand your point. I myself am just going with the flow now... but well till when I don't know.
Coming to the epi...I liked the mischevious Nani playing matchmaker here. Thinking way ahead she left no way of escape to Arnav...and yeah thank god for small mercies, CVs didn't play too much with Arnav's character *phew* I was afraid since I heard about Heer-Ranjha act that how will they justify Arnav going there at all but then the end result is not so bad...what remains to be seen is how Nani will convince Arnav to wear a sherwani and most of all actually go on stage and improvise some act with Khushi?!! 😲 Emotional blackmail I suppose but with which terms? Arnav is one stubborn fellow so what will make him relent, any idea? Even though he interrogated his nani about the need to send Khushi on stage to perform (indicating that maybe he does sympathise with her current predicament), it didn't look like he would have step up to help her this time around, he looked outrageously shocked that Nani could even think of it...
I think the MU has been streched to its limit now...both Khushi and Arnav have been subjected to enough clues that should normally wreak havoc into their heads!!! Time for them to do some brainstorming and try to get the whole picture...In this epi for example I feel that Arnav should have been portrayed intensely confused having witnessed Khushi's instinctual care and worry for him, her indeniable connection to him (her being able to 'hear' him when he didn't speak) instead of throwing lovey dovey looks at her...
Shyam is losing his touch...he is throwing caution to the wind and that will be detrimental to him...Hope that it means that at least one of the lead will come to know the truth soon...
The bonding between Khushi-Mami and Payal-Mami in recent epis was nice to watch but I wonder if it is meant to last 😕 Will she be an ally or a foe?...for now I'm leaning towards the latter as shown in SBS/SBB, Mami was seen losing while Payal seemed pareshan...I'm guessing that adding these facts to Manorama's rival's bahu coming to talk to Payal that somehow, directly or indirectly, she'll put a dent in Mami's chances of winning...but well I can be wrong but even if it's not like that Mami doesn't need much to blame Payal, does she? The simple fact that Payal was overconfident while she ended up losing in the end will be enough for her to be riled up *shrug*
Random (and maybe dumb) question: What made Nani associate Arnav-Khushi with Heer-Ranjha jodi? It seemed like she specifically chose these roles for them...while we viewers can make out the similarities between the jodis, as per the story Nani could not so...
Edited by Aeryn - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
#75

Originally posted by: --Anna--

Briliiant Pam!!! 👏👏👏 Could not have said it any better! 😊 Loved the Heer Ranjha bit the most!


Thanks Anna!! It was a nice episode but a nightmare one for analysis, but then I read Tanthya's post and I got the idea for these two scenes. Hopefully, those scene play out in a good way and not as the disappointment that we are seeing now.
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Posted: 13 years ago
#76
Tathu!! wonderful post... just loved ur song lyrics analysis...its brilliant👍🏼.

Pam-- loved ur analysis... it was really good!👏

Doods- What happend dear? unnashik keno? u can write.. whtvr u feel, writing shld nt be always for bashing or correcting.. i beliv writing is for self satisfaction!


Hola Ladies🤗

I am on Page 7
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Wonderful analysis as usual, Tanths.
Gonna miss u Doods.

Edited by siamesecat - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
#78

Originally posted by: doodleberry


SS, this was on my mind since last thursday and Tant knows that. But was hanging on for her and thought of dragging it. For me I need "meat" in an episode and I need progression which is missing, I understand it's a daily so it's impossible given the TRP process and believe me I was enjoying more the serial before I started to do serious analysis. Serious analysis always takes away the charm of "only watching".

See the track lost first time with farak padta hain but then they came back and this time also they seem to losing the essence...only Barun is holding it... Shyaam is lost for eternity. I mean IPK is good for watching but for analyzing you need the "material and lots of hints" that will keep your brain working.

As it is romance and lovey dovey track never is good for analyzing... and for me since I have already laid forward the track a many times, there is nothing left to say; the situation is that bad that even I forgot the wedding at the temple. Technically they cud have been done with confrontation and confession and could have started "Shyaam family revelation" track. I was hanging on for Tant but ab nehin hoti.. now I feel like I am wasting my own time instead I can start analyzing on something worth but I want to take a break now.

Don't be sad SS, I am here only and I know you are used to my way of seeing things but the PH is again spoiling things.

Today I would have ripped them for what they showed, Tant was gushy today but I was like "What the heck they showing"??? Again backtracking and spoiling the tracks. They have used the old idea again and made the matriach do this but Naani spoiled the show today. She should have been convincing and it was so predictable. Just showing ASR didn't want to stay doesn't make sense when he is mesmerized with the beauty who ruined his sister's life. Do it after you learn the truth...makes sense then but not now.

Gosh I said I don't wanna write and now I am in mood to write the whole novel. 😆


okay... got atleast somethng from you😆
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: anjani-pagli

[Updated]
I liked the episode!
yet to read the analysis... let me update my POV

piya bole piyu bole.. kya yeh bole jaanu na!😳

👍🏼Things I liked 👍🏼

1.
The continuation from the previous episode!

2.
The end of quarrel with khushi on the higher side... her sudden change made our raizaada total confused
😆

3
The Nani back in her naughty avtaar to bring Arhi closer

4
The mami-khushi dance.. i liked the duo. Then suddenly she remebered her thnking abt khushi and backing off😆

5
Oh, i liked mami and payal dress. I loved khushi's dress also.👏

6
The ASR looking at Khushi...n stealing glances was really cute!

7
Shayam in his creep plan. His dhaga is stucked.. lets see who notices khushi/Arnav?

👎🏼Things I did not liked👎🏼

1.
Why so much huddling, puddling and rumbling?
CVs, if Nani is planning somethng for khushi let audience also know na!
U could have added 1 self talk scene of Nani, when she saw Arhi and somethng struck her.🤓

2
Arnav in dressing room.. that too where ladies are getting ready?
okay I know we got some really good rabba-ve moments for that... but...
How can he be allowed in ladies dressing room😕



Song pick for the day





Sul,

What I thoroughly enjoy about your analysis is, you say everything in few short sentences but they are so effective and so to the point

I also want self talk, not only of Nani but also of Arnav and Khushi. Now a days we have self talk only of Shyam.😕. How will people know what is going on, only through expressions????

I want to know the answer for your second dislike too...😆



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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: honeypriya

Am crunched wid time this week...but was waiting to read urs peacefully first thing this morning !!!


Ahhh...So this thread is ur Morning Raga ! 😃

Loved all of it...though I had some issues wid few scenes yesterday...mostly wid the editing guys...they take it for granted the audience at times !!! Also there were certain scenes which were rushed and hurried...maybe they seriously wanna close once facet of the MU by friday...so all the running around...else can there be an explanation - where Maami was still practicing her speech in the morning,ASR has an off day coz he isnt well...and within few moments they move to Fancy dress...atleast could have showed it next day !!!
Also yess, the beautiful mirror scene, left you wanting more of the Barunish touch - which was marred with still expressions...kinda reminded me the ME scene by the door after Khushi kissed him and he stops her by the door - both the scenes where just u need to see that actors' touch..not the technicalities !!!

Arrrghh..don't remind me of that Door Kiss scene... I would happily wring the neck of the guy who did it !! At least this was a tad better than that..
Loved wat u said about the Khushi's fake love scene - though i wanted it to be little longer - but Arnav's picking her cue and the smile in the eyes - so finally we are on the same plane...just was brilliant !!!
Shyaam-Arnav subtle eye-games were again great watch - makes u think when Aabhaas can be soo good at certain times...how he falters in some other places - esp the moments when if he shines better - will jst take him to the next level - two mentionables being the - mirror scene during the wedding times and yesterday when anjali catches him !!!!
Though the naani-arnav scenes were cute and was refreshing for a change - maybe its me - but I felt both of them little disconnected - Jayshree though being great was little more assertive...while Barun was little stiff - guess its more of actors' comfort levels and reading each others's cues !!! In that sense - Arnav- Manorama scenes though little always shines brilliantlly - the camraderie there leaves u asking for more - maybe Barun is more in tune with Utkarsha ji !!!

I did not feel so ... both are temperamental creatures..Arnav was doing Nakhra and so he was stiff, indignant ...If u remember the other scene when Manorama pretends to leave...U can see the connection between Arnav and Nani
gosh...now i realise how much i have been ranting - the best moment for me was the title track moment - lovely - he looks back,she senses even widout looking - then he sees Naani coming in and breezes away !!!

Her DD's are coming back and so is his mesmerizing moods..but I would prefer it after MU not now ..Now I want them at their intelligence best ..
btw I loved Deepali yesterday - she is alway good in the smiley moments, when she has to be herself - even the small convo between Maami-Paayal was endearing...I know they gonna show their act getting goofed up - but would love to see them actually completing the act beautifully - they looked the parts so nicely !!!
Aakash is slowly coming in to picture more - yess the aakash-paayal seperation is inevetibale - also thats the sole reason that anjali-aakash convo plus aakash-paayal trust dialogue by the pool happened on the Haldi nite...But somehow makes me think when everyone walks away and gets her wrong - Arnav is going to stand in for Paayal - not only for the Khushi angle - but it is his responsibility and also stands true to his character - doing things for the right cause !!!
Heer-Raanjha dialogues will set the tone for the week !!!
Yess, certain someone does need a shave badly...even I crooned 😆 (maybe he is trying to look the part 😉)
PS do excuse the typos !!!




Lovely post Priya ...😃

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