Originally posted by: Rita.C
darn I really do need to get a life but cannot stop myself from jumping in again..I am really not agreeing with anyone here just summarising what I see ...
1) Sanjana I read from your comments that those who are screaming domestic violence, violence against women had called early episodes when ASR was in full steam as romantic. I am sure, reading the posts from these intelligent folks, they must have found those actions (Nainital outdoor stint, rain parking incident and the infamous dropping from 1st floor office) repulsive too. I cannot see them thinking that these actions are either romantic or kind. I am obviously not including others who clearly don't use logic in their conversations and are completely biased.
2) Sorry Anna and Naila, I do understand your pov but I have to say this is domestic violence - its domestic because its inside the house and violence because its bl.. y Delhi winter and you are throwing someone out of the room into the exterior. she could have developed pneumonia. That is v simply put domestic violence. I have to agree with Darcy fan on this one, except that I dont hate ASR or feel upset with Barun (will mention why in the bottom)
3) ASR is back, and how. He is being who he is - the character was in abeyance and now when he thinks the girl he loved is not only a mirage but also a traitor and a s...t, deserves everything she gets. Hence he behaves the way he behaves with the big bad cruel world - he is ruthless, cruel, mean and cold.. all par for the course. As Anna, Naila and Aliza have said so well in that other post, this is the right picture for ASR - true to the original story. You may not like this character, you may dislike the action, but you cannot deny that he is who is. he has not suddenly become this mellow guy .. who will be fair and just. thats not ASR.. and the process for Darcification (to borrow the phrase) is on.. it is on because unlike earlier, ASR is uncomfortable wtih his actions. he is no longer blase or triumphant but unhappy.
4) for us as viewers that still does not make the action ok, it makes the story and the character true though. and a gutsy one it is...
ASR loving Khushi and wanting her does NOT make it ok.. in fact, nothing can make the action justifiable. however, it should make the action understandable.. understanding where he is coming from makes it clearer as to why he is doing what he is.. and the tajectory of his journey which began when he first said sorry... or perhpas even earlier.. Again Anna is right (god heavens, I feel like Anna is a dictionary, I have quoted her so many times!), the fact that he is feeling bad is in itself a testimony to his journey
Most of us including I (not you Darcyfan and a few smarter others) forgot that we are watching Khushi as the innocent. ASR is not.. he is watching her as a jezebel and if she had been a jezebel, it would still not be ok.. but it would make his actions more easily understood. that is why he is not asking her anything - why would he? she re-inforces everyhting he has always believed and been proven about the world - that goodness does not exist and profit and loss is the only real truth, that people lie and cheat all the time (goodness what a awful set of friends he seems to have!)
5) If he had been a character sketch and not our darling lead, we would have understood that he is portraying a flawed character and bore the scenes knowing he will get his come uppance. this is not a normal (dare I say it? perhaps I speak too soon) Indian serial - the lead is not our hero. he is an anti hero hence he is doing things that are abhorrent and not only does he push envelope he darn well tears it... and it is upto our chamkeeli and a whole lot of inbuilt love (perhaps also butt - sorry I simply could not resist that one, scratch that out) to teach him to be a hero.. he has the makings of one, just not ready yet...
whew.. you gals are going to kill me one of these days. have not been so passionate since I was getting courted by hubby dearest!!
i am not going to kill you. i maybe 18, but i don't think i am one of those barun droolers who can see only hotness.. and i think some of the members just think teens lack a clear viewpoint which is sad.. anyway, thats a whole different story..
1. yes, i was on this forum since long.. but i don't think there were these many posts that screamed domestic violence screw the producer.. maybe so, because they never protested it then thinking it was part of the leads' character.. now that there is more of it, it suddenly became unromantic and posts come up.. i did not find it romantic, but sadly, thats what the makers are doing.. create a so called 'domestic violence' situation and induce romance after that.. like the rain hug.. so, if there is a problem, then it should have been for long.. again, read zee news spoiler..
2. i don't think she could have developed pneumonia.. but it was wrong n his part to thrwo her outside.. wait a minute here.. i thought he said, go whereever you want? why did she choose just the pool? 😕 and i have said this, but i will say again, if you want to watch and enjoy this show.. you should have your definitions of the words 'domestic abuse' 'physical abuse' and 'maritak rape' ready.. coz they are very subjective in the concept of the brad show.
3. i agree
4.the bold part i totally agree. we think khushi has been sacrificed and is being made to bear torture.. according to him, she is just a culprit.. but i still think, how much ever he hates her, he cannot do more damage than this.. can he? he still loves her and love never dies..(i am from the old school of romance..) so, hurt her as he may, but he surely cannot get the fact that this was the girl he loves even when blatantly hating her for what she has done to him and his sister..
5. am glad you think its upto her to change him and make him realise what is love.. i am sick of people telling she is 18 years old and she has to be shown what is love.. and arnav is the one who needs to gear up to do that.. NO, khushi is the emotional one.. and love is an emotion.. it was is and will be khushi who will change him.. not himself.. even he does repent his actions, that will be because he 'loved' khushi once upon a time.. but to take it beyond that, it has to be khushi..
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