There is always HOPE -- or not!!

With all the abuse being shown and the point being established that how abusive household effects the behavior of kids and their relationships, i would expect a hope for people like shlok too.

Not talking from India or about Indian men, but in real life if a man or woman goes this far without any fault of the other person...there's little redeemable in them. Some abuse is tolerated in soaps in the name of showing passion and a throbbing heart (since there are no explicit scenes). But when it really is verbal, physical, social or psychological abuse, the abuser shouldn't get a pass for their horrible childhoods. They need to go through long reformation which usually doesn't happen. Most abusers are abused as children, most pedophiles are molested as children but their past does not exuse their crime. They both go to jail. In the eyes of the law they are just as guilty. Overtime between the abuser and abused, there is forgiveness possible if the abused wants to stop holding grudges. It doesn't end in happily ever after.

Originally posted by: Marybarton

Not talking from India or about Indian men, but in real life if a man or woman goes this far without any fault of the other person...there's little redeemable in them. Some abuse is tolerated in soaps in the name of showing passion and a throbbing heart (since there are no explicit scenes). But when it really is verbal, physical, social or psychological abuse, the abuser shouldn't get a pass for their horrible childhoods. They need to go through long reformation which usually doesn't happen. Most abusers are abused as children, most pedophiles are molested as children but their past does not exuse their crime. They both go to jail. In the eyes of the law they are just as guilty. Overtime between the abuser and abused, there is forgiveness possible if the abused wants to stop holding grudges. It doesn't end in happily ever after.

I think there is always hope but you never know, if people are gone too far then maybe you cannot help them

Originally posted by: Marybarton

Not talking from India or about Indian men, but in real life if a man or woman goes this far without any fault of the other person...there's little redeemable in them. Some abuse is tolerated in soaps in the name of showing passion and a throbbing heart (since there are no explicit scenes). But when it really is verbal, physical, social or psychological abuse, the abuser shouldn't get a pass for their horrible childhoods. They need to go through long reformation which usually doesn't happen. Most abusers are abused as children, most pedophiles are molested as children but their past does not exuse their crime. They both go to jail. In the eyes of the law they are just as guilty. Overtime between the abuser and abused, there is forgiveness possible if the abused wants to stop holding grudges. It doesn't end in happily ever after.

Great post and agree with you. Shlok deserves a second chance. I'm sure than he will find out about Niranjan, that he always was manipulated by him and something what happened to Swathi it's bacause of N, not Anjali, he will change.

sorry for bad english

I posted this in different topic but i thinks its fits in with your topic as well. 😛

Originally posted by: Marybarton

Not talking from India or about Indian men, but in real life if a man or woman goes this far without any fault of the other person...there's little redeemable in them. Some abuse is tolerated in soaps in the name of showing passion and a throbbing heart (since there are no explicit scenes). But when it really is verbal, physical, social or psychological abuse, the abuser shouldn't get a pass for their horrible childhoods. They need to go through long reformation which usually doesn't happen. Most abusers are abused as children, most pedophiles are molested as children but their past does not exuse their crime. They both go to jail. In the eyes of the law they are just as guilty. Overtime between the abuser and abused, there is forgiveness possible if the abused wants to stop holding grudges. It doesn't end in happily ever after.

I am a romantic at heart, but in this case, I would like NA and Abhay go to jail and get beaten up by the jailers routinely...I would like Shlok to be publicly humiliated and divorced from Astha, and get life long community service in abused women shelters. 😆😆 OK, that shows how callous I am getting watching this serial.

There are only two kinds of men, men who control their neanderthal urges, and those who don't. We all know which club the Agnihotri men belongs to.

Originally posted by: lachii

With all the abuse being shown and the point being established that how abusive household effects the behavior of kids and their relationships, i would expect a hope for people like shlok too.

yes the girl should emerge stronger, but what is the definition of being strong is also in question here.

yes shlok is being a jerk, but that is what he is now. he is a product of abuse, yes ..but he had a soft bone too unlike his father and abhay. he lost that softness due to betrayal of his mother. so what is hope for him, for the products of abuse in general and in reality?

yes there are rehabilitation centers for them to make them better people, but this is india...

we know what women should or could do in such situation like jyothi, aastha, anjali, much have been said about about available paths that they can tread.

what what about men like shlok, born in miserable household and more victimized by betrayals, internal politics of household, what is their ray of hope? or should they be directly marched to hell?because they are men and not women?

Lachii,

There is very little hope for people like Shlok, their demons hunt them life long - unfortunately! The violence comes out in various ways, emotional, verbal, physical - Shlok is an angry man, and when he is angry he shouts, he physically hurts people he is close to. It is probably better if he takes psychiatric help and stays single.

and what about anjali and her callous behaviour towards her children, her partnership in crime to her own daughter and DILs and grand daughter and also supposedly swati too. she is doing because of the abuse she get, but this is not justified either because we are practically nullifying the precursors of abuse while suggesting the punishment?