And the House was razed... 26.4

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Everybody reacts differently to an upsetting situation, and are entitled to feeling that way. Be it anger, sadness, depression, everyone reacts differently. If the event angered you, it makes another sad. If my opinion angers you, so be it, but don't judge me (as I won't you) as we are different.


All Oberois stood there like chess pieces and puppets as Chessmaster Roop played games with everyone. It was foolish for them to think they could keep this can of rotten worms called Roop keep her word. They all expected her to have sense of fairplay and to keep her promises. Finish the shaadi and then get your proof.

THEY WERE ALL PLAYED FOR FOOLS. The whole wedding idea was nonsense, and that proof means NOTHING! What Shivaay was supposed to do was find the proof to show that ROOP WAS THE ONE WHO DID IT ALL !!

But no, he, as always chooses damage control. Make it shut up and it'll go away, and all will be well. Now, he'll see what a bad idea it was. And you can't blame him. I don't get why those 4 losers who were at the center of it all back then can just stand there and make shocked faces as ALL the suffering is handed wholesale upon Shivaay and Annika...

It was like standing and watching a monster gobble up 2 children. I hate the senior Oberois, cowardly losers who did nothing to protect their children. Shame. Everything on Shivaay's head.

They looked like kids when Roop pulled off their getups and exposed the fake shaadi. It's because this crazedmadwoman Roop is ONE of them. She has been behind, watching every NB plot that went up in smoke just like this.

I found it disgusting that Tej the "GREAT" couldn't do anything to stop his psycho of a sister. They all just stood like chastened school kids !! Yet, Annika is the sole recipient of brickbats.

I felt Shivaay's disappointment when he shouted "I asked you to keep Annika out of all this!! WHy Bua!!" Oh man, he actually gave her the respect of Bua and expected familial consideration from her. *facepalm* I was so pissed back then when he didn't turn back the car for home when she was dumped back by Veer !! I so wished he had gone back and kept her safely somewhere before he went back to deal with Bua.

But drama was to be had, so we must disable logic.

Did you see Shivaay's face when Roop said Annika saw it all??! The whole wedding, the laughing, the photos, the kangan, the aashirwad, everything.
It was like he was shot in the chest. He understood even when most don't, that IT WAS TOO MUCH FOR HER. His exact nightmare came true. HE knew Annika is fragile about her family, which was why he kept it from her, so he could fix it for her.He PUT HER FIRST THIS TIME. He was protecting her. I keep remembering how he was afraid of losing her and asked her for the promise to wait for him.

How many times had she put aside all plots and schemes and stood with him with their infamous Trust. He himself was amazed by how much she trusted and believed him. When he put his family above her, and went to say sorry, each time must have killed him a little bit inside to see her stoic face understanding him and the circumstances.

"I sometimes envy you of your family, Shivaay. I'd do anything for them just like you. So don't apologize for protecting them, it's the right thing to do. I'd do the same for mine."

He'd felt awful then, she'd used "your" family again in her sentence, instead of ours. And he put her first this time. I love him for that, he didn't take her for granted. But it just didn't materialize for him this time.

"Why, Bua??!"
"SO I can see you shatter to pieces, and see her grieving tears...Suffer seeing her cheating husband and her lying inlaws !!"

That look on his face when he heard she was grieving and crying..😭..
"Where?? Where is she??"

(OMG Nakuul just nailed it. My nerves and feels were shot.)

Shivaay was so angry he lost it. He lifted his hand to hit an elder. That's a HUGE thing for SSO. Then watch as he put aside his rage, to go find Annika first.

Nothing is as important as Annika. right now.

To hell with proof, to hell with Roop, to hell with Kalyani Mills fire and who did it. He ran out after his wife. 👏

He knew what it looked like to her. I cannot believe he will blame her for anything that she does in retaliation for this. Even if she did report them to the cops, this Shivaay would understand her state of mind.

Annika was proud of her father. She'd rise as high as Shivaay to protect his innocence.

I watched the way Shivaay ran for dear life after her. My face leaked too much also. Even as Veer beat him up badly, his priority was to get to Annika. Only when Veer threatened Annika again, he got up and KOed the 8ft vanmanush.

Then she remembered Omkara and Rudra, and how true her bond was with them. (I dunno where MORE tears came from at this point😭) . She remembered the love she got as Bhabhi, as Beti , as Bahu, Dadi does love her sincerely. Then our original came through, one that takes the good out of the disaster.

"If they can do this to me, It doesn't mean I should do this them in retaliation."😭
I love this girl. She says sorry to her father and throws the evidence away. She will exonerate her father herself. I just hope she doesn't become Nafratbaaz 😲


Why am I not angry with Annika?

I know. Everyone is angry that she just walked away from her marriage, from Shivaay, after promising him she'd hear him out first. That it trivializes the institution of marriage to just leave without demanding her rights from Shivaay as he famously announced during their marriage.

Annika is such that she only takes what is freely given. She doesn't demand anything. Om and Rudra gave her love as brothers, Dadi gave her motherly love and guidance, Shakti treated her like a daughter. When Pinky scolded her for never scolding and demanding she be treated better, she didn't say a word. It's not in her nature to demand. What you give me, i accept. If you throw me out, I go.

SHivaay had to work so hard to make Annika depend on him, take her rights from him, demand from him. She never assumed importance of being Mrs. SSO, only asked that she be allowed to be by his side in good and bad times.

She gifted herself to him, as commitment to their relationship, and he gave her family, Sahil and his own.

To me, it looked like her first forced marriage was happening again in front of her eyes. Shivaay is being forced to marry someone he didnt want to for the sake of family izzat.

"I had to do it Annika, I'm sorry. I was so stuck in the situation it was the only way out i could see."

Can you imagine hearing that dialogue again from him? When does it stop??! Why do they keep testing her like this.

She broke okay. She's human.

Just like that day Shivaay's heart broke and he signed divorce papers , threw her out.
She walked away from him, denying him a chance to explain.

I don't think Shivaay will hate her for doing it. I'm beginning to hate the word MU now.

As for future tracks , I can't see Shivaay hating her. I see an angry Annika wanting to get justice for her father. To find her Chutki again. It's up to Shivaay to find his Annika again. Just like the way Annika came back when OmRu called her.

TRP is the game. I'm preparing for role reversals and character changes. I want to see where writers are going with this. No, I don't see Shivaay hating her.


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Hriju321 thumbnail
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Posted: 7 years ago
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When will this end Anisa? When Annika realises that she was manipulated and what she saw was a reflection of her innermost fears?
What Annika saw was just a nightmare she had subdued in the deep recesses of herself but the demon could not be controlled anymore. It reared its head,ably stoked by Roop.Actually,Roop is very very intuitive;she understands the deep machinations of people's mind a la Sigmund Freud and hence becomes the master puppeteer.Her game is no chemistry experiments or small/big talk.She understands the psyche,analyses situations and uses it to her advantage.
I just wish Annika calms down,does away with her 'I am betrayed avataar',joins the dots and comes back as her khirkitod self.
What can Shivaay do to actually kill that monster of insecurity in Annika and their relationship? Because frankly it seems true love is not the answer.

The 'aag ka dariya' Shivaay needs to swim across is :
* Talk to Annika about everything and not hide one iota of what's going on
* Share his life; sharing bed is not enough. Share problems,burdens,happiness,grief.Let nothing be unsaid
* No more shutting down mouths in the way of solving problems. Go to depths,uproot them.
* No more marriages: fake or real.PERIOD.
* No need to become the wall when the foundation is weak.First make the foundation strong,then build walls and then rooms.

Annika needs to have some sort of communication with her inner self too.She needs to understand that always being the one to sacrifice does not maketh the character.Also insecurities are like termite;it erodes the soul.To be successful in maintaining a healthy relationship you need to be confident about your self worth.Showing tadi outside and breaking inside will not do in the long run.

PS: My POV and my points for the debate.I have not intended to bash any character because I love both equally and my heart breaks seeing the present scenario.

Edited by Hriju321 - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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None could have said it better than you have, Di!
On point.

So miss your posts around.(Not at Twitter so)

Why am I not angry with Annika?

I know. Everyone is angry that she just walked away from her marriage, from Shivaay, after promising him she'd hear him out first. That it trivializes the institution of marriage to just leave without demanding her rights from Shivaay as he famously announced during their marriage.

Annika is such that she only takes what is freely given. She doesn't demand anything. Om and Rudra gave her love as brothers, Dadi gave her motherly love and guidance, Shakti treated her like a daughter. When Pinky scolded her for never scolding and demanding she be treated better, she didn't say a word. It's not in her nature to demand. What you give me, i accept. If you throw me out, I go.

SHivaay had to work so hard to make Annika depend on him, take her rights from him, demand from him. She never assumed importance of being Mrs. SSO, only asked that she be allowed to be by his side in good and bad times.


Aptly put. He had to even tell her its okay to hug him. Her life has taught her never to demand. She never demands. She makes what she wants. Be it Self Respect or making her self lovable. She adapts. I think that's the thing about women, that makes them maybe a little different from men.(in general). Because a woman is made like that. Adapt, put up with everything and still hold on to what she is.

She gifted herself to him, as commitment to their relationship, and he gave her family, Sahil and his own.

To me, it looked like her first forced marriage was happening again in front of her eyes. Shivaay is being forced to marry someone he didnt want to for the sake of family izzat.


"I had to do it Annika, I'm sorry. I was so stuck in the situation it was the only way out i could see."

Can you imagine hearing that dialogue again from him? When does it stop??! Why do they keep testing her like this.

She broke okay. She's human.

Just like that day Shivaay's heart broke and he signed divorce papers , threw her out.
She walked away from him, denying him a chance to explain.



Exactly. We forget at times that despite everything, it hurts, it breaks, we have feelings we feel. And to a daughter, isn't her father the first man she loves!? So how can she not break when it comes to him? Delusion happens. Because somewhere down the scars are left on the soul.


I don't think Shivaay will hate her for doing it. I'm beginning to hate the word MU now.

He can't. he simply can't. He won't even be upset I feel. Cause he knows what she is going through. He went through the same. When your family is targeted, and you are left helpless to choose between heart and mind. He is lived through it.


As for future tracks , I can't see Shivaay hating her. I see an angry Annika wanting to get justice for her father. To find her Chutki again. It's up to Shivaay to find his Annika again. Just like the way Annika came back when OmRu called her.

I think my addiction to the show will be back again then.😆


TRP is the game. I'm preparing for role reversals and character changes. I want to see where writers are going with this. No, I don't see Shivaay hating her.

Then I would love to see that!😳

Such a positive thoughtful post just like the old times!❤️

Edited by Khidki - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: AnnzSageflower7



It was like standing and watching a monster gobble up 2 children. I hate the senior Oberois, cowardly losers who did nothing to protect their children. Shame. Everything on Shivaay's head.


First i want to thank you. See yesterday i decided not to come to IF because of so much negativity. More than episode i was more disappointed with the Shivika fans who are busy to see who is more wrong than other. But your post give me a hope that everything (in our forum) will be ok.

Yes i agree with this, and this is what Sr. Oberois are doing from the time of KM fire, that time also they were happy that blame went on somebody else and got insurance money. They never tried to support and think about the families who were burnt in the fire. They never thought about their partner kids (NK sisters) knowing completely that he was murdered. As far as they are not affected party they never try to open their mouth. All these years they were hiding the whole story of KM fire even from the person who always protect them. They are the most selfish people and Shivika are paying for their sins and Annika is one of them who is paying since childhood. I want all Sr.Obrois to be in jail atleast for some time. They are also equally responsible in KM fire case by hiding the important clues. If at that time they would have told about Kappor's murder it was very easy to find the main culprit.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: AnnzSageflower7


Annika is such that she only takes what is freely given. She doesn't demand anything. Om and Rudra gave her love as brothers, Dadi gave her motherly love and guidance, Shakti treated her like a daughter. When Pinky scolded her for never scolding and demanding she be treated better, she didn't say a word. It's not in her nature to demand. What you give me, i accept. If you throw me out, I go.

SHivaay had to work so hard to make Annika depend on him, take her rights from him, demand from him. She never assumed importance of being Mrs. SSO, only asked that she be allowed to be by his side in good and bad times.


This is beautifully written. Annika never claim her rights, she never said Maa to Pinki until Pinki insists so. That does not mean she does not treat Pinki as her mother but Annika is always a giver without showing her right. This time also when she was completely sure that Shivvay did this marriage she walked out. I am in no mood to think who is more right or wrong. I know Shivika will again come back with bang and band bazao all enemies. And Shivvay will help her this time to come back to her senses.

I request you to please come frequently to the forum, we need some positivity here in this tough phase.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Nothing to say about the show but so happy to see you here! Welcome back. *hugs*
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Great POV as always Anisa.👏
But just today i agree to disagree.😳

As long as I remember I have always felt that Anika had been through a lot n there has to be a full stop. Shivaay over the time has made ammendments but probably his actions has always cancelled his words. He gets blackmailed at the drop of hat, doesnt share his woes n problems n ends up with always marrying somebody fakingly. N she deals with it in the most khidkitod way.

How much she will go through? Agreed. My heart goes out to her first even being a Shivaay fan. With that statement my heart is still clear thats it is Shivika I love more. I feel immence pride in saying the khidkitod Anika is his better half n vice versa.

From time immemorial we have been fed that she is fighter, khidkitod, villian ki watt lagani wali but everytime Shivaay does something, she chooses to walk away after analysing the situation. Leaving him vulnerable at all times in life.Back then she walked for him, today she walked out coz of the scenario presented to her. Not even one she feels n remember what will happen to him post this.

Whereas Shivaay has always thought what will happen to her in his monolouge obviously for selfish reasons but that should happen both ways na. We can say its cvs mistake. And thats why when a man stands with her at all times, loves her immensely n has the courage to say I will die without u not once but hundered times she still needs to know she is no.1 in his life n even in dreams he cant do it willingly. So that means he has done something unwillingly.

You have said she has never asked for things its her nature but that was before, havent he given her enuf in this lifetime to hold on to? What commitment n assurance does she need more for trutsing him n knowing she has been no.1 in his life, not only now but always. Was walking awat this easy in Life. She herself agreed last time she should have fought by being there but even she doesnt stand in tandem with her words to her actions I say.

In any case the loss is ours, coz we love both of them to death.😳


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Posted: 7 years ago
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Hey Anisa,
You have returned with a bang with an awesome post. Welcome🤗
Am I the only one that feels that this is still a plan. Plan of Shivika.

Following things don't gel well.
1. Where is Khanna ji?
2. Why did OmRu not run to find Anika?? remember how they appeared when Veer had buried her. How worried they were. They only let Shivaay go to find her??
3. Shivaay when was driving looked like SSo and not the heart broken Shivaay.
4. Shivaay did warn her as well as Veer who boasted and revealed that Bua is his mother. Anika is smart enough to connect the dots.
5. The song Piya Milenge and its lyrics as a hint. (By the way I do not remember when this song was used earlier in IB??)

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Great to see you back on the forum at the time of crisis in the show...don't know how long will it last .It seems its been ages since we got a shivika scene..hope it doesnt drag much.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Hriju321

When will this end Anisa? When Annika realises that she was manipulated and what she saw was a reflection of her innermost fears?


Ppl will disagree with me but I wish this track to unwrap Annika's character as an individual. We thought not but apparently her insecurities lived on deep inside. Now more that ever i wish for that heartbreaking conversation where he seeks a chance to explain what really happened.

What Annika saw was just a nightmare she had subdued in the deep recesses of herself but the demon could not be controlled anymore. It reared its head,ably stoked by Roop.Actually,Roop is very very intuitive;she understands the deep machinations of people's mind a la Sigmund Freud and hence becomes the master puppeteer.Her game is no chemistry experiments or small/big talk.She understands the psyche,analyses situations and uses it to her advantage.
I just wish Annika calms down,does away with her 'I am betrayed avataar',joins the dots and comes back as her khirkitod self.
What can Shivaay do to actually kill that monster of insecurity in Annika and their relationship? Because frankly it seems true love is not the answer.

Shivaay needs to stop keeping secrets... remember how he turned the house upside down because she was keeping the Attar Mattar secret? He couldn't take it at All! He needs to share, and she needs to learn to insist.

The 'aag ka dariya' Shivaay needs to swim across is :
* Talk to Annika about everything and not hide one iota of what's going on
* Share his life; sharing bed is not enough. Share problems,burdens,happiness,grief.Let nothing be unsaid
* No more shutting down mouths in the way of solving problems. Go to depths,uproot them.
* No more marriages: fake or real.PERIOD.
* No need to become the wall when the foundation is weak.First make the foundation strong,then build walls and then rooms.

Annika needs to have some sort of communication with her inner self too.She needs to understand that always being the one to sacrifice does not maketh the character.Also insecurities are like termite;it erodes the soul.To be successful in maintaining a healthy relationship you need to be confident about your self worth.Showing tadi outside and breaking inside will not do in the long run.

I'm hoping she starts seeing herself as a worthy part of the family soon. I wish to see her walk into grab her husband and push off whoever new opportunist who comes , and say "Hands of my husband." And give him an earful for allowing it.

PS: My POV and my points for the debate.I have not intended to bash any character because I love both equally and my heart breaks seeing the present scenario.


Fingers crossed for next track.. I'm not listening to the hysterical ppl making assumptions based on 2Rps website spoilers

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