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Posted: 8 years ago
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The whole interview was cringeworthy. Nothing makes sense. Not the characters, the tracks, or the clothes. Honestly, I would have more respect for her if she was more honest with herself.

I knew nothing would happen to Pinky and Anika's mahaan biwi avatar was going absolve her of all her manipulations. I'm actually okay with that because this is exactly the level of writing I expect. What I find insanely hilarious is the waste of time. She literally built up a story for 5 months and now she is going to completely scrap everything to make this into a Shivaay lesson. She ruined the show, the characters, and slowly murdered the whole flow of the show just to go in a giant circle for absolutely no reason. I'm not a writer, but seriously have the guts to commit to your ideas. If she wanted new parallel leads for them then she should have done it. It would have made more sense than the Samar guy disappearing and VAT popping up out of nowhere or Ragini being a vamp on standby.

What did she gain from sticking to her floundering arc for so long? The TRPs fell, she drove away the audience, ruined the characters, and stressed herself out for nothing. Now, the poor souls that actually stuck around to this point are met with this pathetic attempt at writing. This is now about love being more important than truth? If this track was about the truth Anika could have easily left without a word to anyone leaving him heartbroken. The silly 3 month lapse happens then she goes back to being the competent adult she is. He finds her or she goes back to OM using a typical serial method (Daadi is unwell, Sahil gets sick and she needs money for Sahil). Cue the angst, hurt feelings, and evil Pinky hovering over them for being in the same house. The writers can even throw in a cute baby track and OTT TRP bahu tears. Whatever ridiculous reason the writer used has a expiration date then expiration date is over except this time she fights for her relationship while he lets go of the hurt feelings instead of dwelling on the past. Then cut to dramatic reunion that leads to a happy August shaadi. Pinky loses with her secret in tact, Anika gets a spine, no one except Anika would know about his parentage so no threat from Tej, and Shivaay learns to value what he has.

What was shown instead was his own family plotted, manipulated, and broke him, but that is unimportant because love matters more. She comes back into his life with a short dress and new rich fake fiance acting like the gold digger Pinky made her out to be. Pinky is still happily plotting and ruining everyone's lives because she is insecure. Everyone is still lying to his face and he doesn't notice a ring on her finger for weeks when he noticed everything she wore and did in the past. His is either being lectured or played like a puppet to act like a jealous manchild over a fake wedding. Anika is a different character in every episode. No growth or development in her character. The others are purposely shoved into this giant shaadi debacle because she can't think of any tracks for them. But this is all about trust. The same trust, love, and respect they don't have for him he is supposed to return. He is the bad guy here so he needs to forgive and act like nothing ever happened. This is her amazing arc 😆 The best part is now we're all supposed to pretend like this track was the original plan, but we are just too impatient lol.

I understand being proud of your work, but come on she maimed her own characters and is now acting like the audience is wrong for not accepting this garbage. I'm genuinely curious is she okay right now. I think the pressure is getting to her. It's just entertainment, but this is such a disservice to the audience that tolerated this mindless garbage for months. This is a classic case of you reap what you sow. The PH put no thought or effort into the show and the audience is returning the disinterest in fold, but we are the problem here.
Edited by yellomellow - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
#12

People seem to think that GK and Harneet have a social responsibility to be upstanding examples of inspiring women. They are story writers and producer, out in the entertainment industry to make money and fame. Why presume that they must write a politically correct and socially responsible story? I think we put too much expectations upon them.

She's writing a story, a very unpredictable one. She can change anything whenever she wants, make absolutely no sense and the worst she can get is some curses on Twitter. It's not like she can be arrested for crimes against her characters in her story.

I like her story, I spend too much time figuring it out. It does frustrate me when they flatten things to 2 dimensional plane sometimes. Let's remember not to bombard criticism of a team effort, upon one person. There are at least 2-3 other writers behind HS.

Before this sounds like a boring lecture.

I agree that Pinky has gone beyond "genuine mother with insecurity issues" . I hope the reporter badly wrote what she had taken down in her notepad. If Pinky had made that one terrible step (just like her son had during the wedding) and went on to regret it like it first looked like ( Pinky being sad and unhappy post lapse), she MAY have been 0.001% redeemable. Which writers can do drama using the son's tears to explain it all.

But no, she went after Gauri also. She continued being a poisonous witch after Annika came back and brought a little life back into SSO. She is continuously UNREPENTANT and UNAPOLOGETIC despite the episodic OMM sessions she has with OmRu, Annika, Jhanvi, Shakti, Tej, etc.

So , I'm hoping the reporter has misquoted HS and her "arc" for Pinky, coz it's going to explode in her face (or on her Twitter TL) if Pinky is redeemed as "insecure mom" *#&^@*(#%Q^*@&^^.. Too late for that. Pinky has to be in the doghouse for a bit, and she should crawl her way back into the family's goodbooks. Period.

Even now, Ragini looks like she's taking point in creating trouble for Shivaay and Annika, but soon enough Pinky will step back in and renew her threats against Annika. Now more than ever, Annika is MORE afraid of Shivaay finding out the secret. So, PInky's threats is something I'm expecting any day now because she will not stand by and see Annika married to Shivaay again.
Edited by AnnzSageflower7 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
#13
If Pinky is the sad & insecure soul & HS justifies her deeds like that then I would say Jhanvi had an even worse life than Pinky then how can she be such a pure soul...
Jhanvi accepted Gauri whole heartedly, she thinks about her son's happiness...
HS is completely changing the definition of a mother cuz a mother can never be as selfish as Pinky!!!
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: AnnzSageflower7



<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2"> People seem to think that GK and Harneet have a social responsibility to be upstanding examples of inspiring women. They are story writers and producer, out in the entertainment industry to make money and fame. Why presume that they must write a politically correct and socially responsible story? I think we put too much expectations upon them.</font>

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2"> She's writing a story, a very unpredictable one. She can change anything whenever she wants, make absolutely no sense and the worst she can get is some curses on Twitter. It's not like she can be arrested for crimes against her characters in her story.</font>

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2"> I like her story, I spend too much time figuring it out. It does frustrate me when they flatten things to 2 dimensional plane sometimes. Let's remember not to bombard criticism ofa team effort, upon one person. There are at least 2-3 other writers behind HS.</font>

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2"> Before this sounds like a boring lecture.</font>

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2">I agree that Pinky has gone beyond "genuine mother with insecurity issues" . I hope the reporter badly wrote what she had taken down in her notepad. If Pinky had made that one terrible step (just like her son had during the wedding) and went on to regret it like it first looked like ( Pinky being sad and unhappy post lapse), she MAY have been 0.001% redeemable. Which writers can do drama using the son's tears to explain it all.</font>

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2">But no, she went after Gauri also. She continued being a poisonous witch after Annika came back and brought a little life back into SSO. She is continuously UNREPENTANT and UNAPOLOGETIC despite the episodic OMM sessions she has with OmRu, Annika, Jhanvi, Shakti, Tej, etc.</font>

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2"> So , I'm hoping the reporter has misquoted HS and her "arc" for Pinky, coz it's going to explode in her face (or on her Twitter TL) if Pinky is redeemed as "insecure mom" *#&^@*(#%Q^*@&^^.. Too late for that. Pinky has to be in the doghouse for a bit, and she should crawl her way back into the family's goodbooks. Period.</font>

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2">Even now, Ragini looks like she's taking point in creating trouble for Shivaay and Annika, but soon enough Pinky will step back in and renew her threats against Annika. Now more than ever, Annika is MORE afraid of Shivaay finding out the secret. So, PInky's threats is something I'm expecting any day now because she will not stand by and see Annika married to Shivaay again.</font>



Anisa first of all - if you are a part of the society, it is to some extent your responsibility to help enhance it. So let us stop giving harneet's crap writing any justification

This is the same forum that held her up as the best writer when the tracks were good so why are people not allowed to condemn the shit show being written and be a constant kiss ass to her on twitter is beyond me

Also the writers u are talking about - oringinal story writers are the ones who have given us the amazing characters ( they are apparently not as involved any more) so yes the brick bats will be reserved for harneet. she is the one going around claiming in her interviews that it's her story when technically only the screen play is hers. If you are dying to get adulation all the time, be ready for criticism as well

As I have mentioned before, it is easy for her to destroy Anika - she seems to hate female characters or pinky as none of them where conceived by her

I hope one day trps show them the mirror that no people are not dumb idiots and yes u have to sit for more than 5 mins to write good content instead of recycling same plots across all your shows
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Posted: 8 years ago
#15

Originally posted by: AnnzSageflower7


People seem to think that GK and Harneet have a social responsibility to be upstanding examples of inspiring women. They are story writers and producer, out in the entertainment industry to make money and fame. Why presume that they must write a politically correct and socially responsible story? I think we put too much expectations upon them.

She's writing a story, a very unpredictable one. She can change anything whenever she wants, make absolutely no sense and the worst she can get is some curses on Twitter. It's not like she can be arrested for crimes against her characters in her story.

I like her story, I spend too much time figuring it out. It does frustrate me when they flatten things to 2 dimensional plane sometimes. Let's remember not to bombard criticism of a team effort, upon one person. There are at least 2-3 other writers behind HS.


If I'm 'people who seem to think...' in your post, then no, I do not expect Gul and Harneet to give me examples of inspiring woman.. Luckily, I have enough strong female influences in my life.. Also, If I did then only god can save me...😆

Who said we want a politically correct and socially responsible story? 😕 The creatives themselves used the terms 'nayi soch'.. 'aaj ki naari'..😆
During the hate wedding, yes I questioned their social responsibility, I still do and I always will.. especially their SNS reactions at that time..😡

LOL.. And I'm well aware of the fact.. Shivaay-Anika are her character.. she can do whatever she wants... and unfortunately, the harsh truth is.. I can't stop her...😭 Otherwise this separation would never have happened the way it di..

Also, If I praise them/appreciate them, when they stay true to their story, show me a beautiful journey, then I have the HAQ to troll them/question them/criticism if they advertise things incorrectly or show me nonsensical tracks or destroy these beautiful characters...as simple as that.. 😊...And I have always criticized only her writing, so there is nothing wrong in doing that!

And finally, At this moment, Harneet is being criticized(instead of the team) because this is her IV.. BUT I agree the entire creative team shoulders the blame for this debacle!
Edited by blackorwhite - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Exactly BW

First they used the terminology that Anika is diff, she is strong and fierce, nayi soch blah blah - audience never said that

And when they turn her into anything but a dumbed version of a spoilt rich brat who hops from
One man to another to make shivaay jealous we can't even point it out 😆

Forget Anika - look at the story and her stupid justification this is not a drag. If they are going to bring the two leads together in this nonsense fashion - isse acha they were apart. Sort their issues, show a dating period and then marry instead of showing 30 something olds acting as teenagers or even worse
People lap anything up to get that one like from harneet or nakuul, thankfully a lot of us are beyond that
Edited by NYCForever - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Hey Ruz, long time... That separation was difficult to digest and this re-union is indigestible!

If people can still enjoy this, good for them BUT I actually have stopped watching IB since 2 weeks now..
So, I guess MERA SEPARATION ho gaya hai IB se, but I still have not MOVED on! *sigh* 😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: AnnzSageflower7


People seem to think that GK and Harneet have a social responsibility to be upstanding examples of inspiring women. They are story writers and producer, out in the entertainment industry to make money and fame. Why presume that they must write a politically correct and socially responsible story? I think we put too much expectations upon them.

She's writing a story, a very unpredictable one. She can change anything whenever she wants, make absolutely no sense and the worst she can get is some curses on Twitter. It's not like she can be arrested for crimes against her characters in her story.

I like her story, I spend too much time figuring it out. It does frustrate me when they flatten things to 2 dimensional plane sometimes. Let's remember not to bombard criticism of a team effort, upon one person. There are at least 2-3 other writers behind HS.

Before this sounds like a boring lecture.

I agree that Pinky has gone beyond "genuine mother with insecurity issues" . I hope the reporter badly wrote what she had taken down in her notepad. If Pinky had made that one terrible step (just like her son had during the wedding) and went on to regret it like it first looked like ( Pinky being sad and unhappy post lapse), she MAY have been 0.001% redeemable. Which writers can do drama using the son's tears to explain it all.

But no, she went after Gauri also. She continued being a poisonous witch after Annika came back and brought a little life back into SSO. She is continuously UNREPENTANT and UNAPOLOGETIC despite the episodic OMM sessions she has with OmRu, Annika, Jhanvi, Shakti, Tej, etc.

So , I'm hoping the reporter has misquoted HS and her "arc" for Pinky, coz it's going to explode in her face (or on her Twitter TL) if Pinky is redeemed as "insecure mom" *#&^@*(#%Q^*@&^^.. Too late for that. Pinky has to be in the doghouse for a bit, and she should crawl her way back into the family's goodbooks. Period.

Even now, Ragini looks like she's taking point in creating trouble for Shivaay and Annika, but soon enough Pinky will step back in and renew her threats against Annika. Now more than ever, Annika is MORE afraid of Shivaay finding out the secret. So, PInky's threats is something I'm expecting any day now because she will not stand by and see Annika married to Shivaay again.

Sorry but you generally write such sensible posts, so I'm a bit confused about your reply here!
Did I dish harneet for her random masterpiece 'arcs' regarding socially n politically issues?
I only referred to what she gave as a reply for pinky?!
How easy it is for you to blame the reporter for such a mistake while since past few months every viewers are actually tolerating pinky's torture n harneet's rubbish arc! sorry but what we got lately clearly proves harneet's POV about pinky as being exactly what was given in the article!
If pinky is being justified as a poor insecure sad person, then it's a bloody shame that she's even termed as a mother! Sorry but this is a harsh truth! Pinky is nothing but a psycho vamp now for all viewers, n this track of poor pinky will backfire completely!
Viewers may have different POVs for each track, but trust me pinky is beyond redemption for 99% of the viewers!
And right now the dragging has been too much that viewers are leaving? Trps are enough proof of this! I don't need to add more I guess!
Also I don't know about the responsibility of Gulneet for the viewers but viewers make or break a show! As again proved where Ipk3 is concerned!
Edited by ashti1234 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: blackorwhite

Hey Ruz, long time... That separation was difficult to digest and this re-union is indigestible!


If people can still enjoy this, good for them BUT I actually have stopped watching IB since 2 weeks now..
So, I guess MERA SEPARATION ho gaya hai IB se, but I still have not MOVED on! *sigh*😆



Yeah babe, I try and stay away from the forum and only come to read some Of my fav stories.

I stopped watching the show regularly after the nonsensical seperation of arc ki maharani 😆

Read the updates and watch some shivika scenes here and there and can easily say that if someone stopped a few months back and watches it now, they can catch up as there has been no story or movement since then 😆

I heard the new star plus show is really good so far so might give it a try. I like good characterization over a dumb love story - for that I will watch the ever charming srk on screen again and again
Edited by NYCForever - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: ashti1234

Sorry but you generally write such sensible posts, so I'm a bit confused about your reply here!
Did I dish harneet for her random masterpiece 'arcs' regarding socially n politically issues?
I only referred to what she gave as a reply for pinky?!
How easy it is for you to blame the reporter for such a mistake while since past few months every viewers are actually tolerating pinky's torture n harneet's rubbish arc! sorry but what we got lately clearly proves harneet's POV about pinky as being exactly what was given in the article!
If pinky is being justified as a poor insecure sad person, then it's a bloody shame that she's even termed as a mother! Sorry but this is a harsh truth! Pinky is nothing but a psycho vamp now for all viewers, n this track of poor pinky will backfire completely!
Viewers may have different POVs for each track, but trust me pinky is beyond redemption for 99% of the viewers!
And right now the dragging has been too much that viewers are leaving? Trps are enough proof of this! I don't need to add more I guess!



I am glad you think of me as sensible, that's a compliment for me.

I think you misunderstood me as defending HS in my comment, which I am not guilty of. I just feel we are expecting a little too much from someone who isn't actually pandering to us as a target audience. I'm in Switzerland here.

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