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Posted: 9 years ago
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heayy actually iam still,trying to understand k Tm akhir kia khna chahte haii????
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Crazy4Mayur

Something that just stuck me today...which might be wrong can't say😆

Every job has a notice period which one has to serve, even if u quit or the employer asks u to leave

Vrushika was on a month's leave and then came the news of her quitting

Feels like she had left a month back itself and was serving a notice period and wen it was over the news was announced


In all this, those who waited for a month got trolled



It is not Vrushika who has quit, but the PH which took the creative call and informed Vrushika (atleast this is what is flashed in the news channels), I am sure she was not informed about the exit as post that confrontation, she and Mahesh Thakur had an off-screen IV where Mahesh called her the heroine of the show, they might have asked her to leave after paying one month compensation this is what I feel
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Crazy4Mayur




Hey :) ...u r one Ishkara fan I've always liked for ur views on the show as a whole and other couples too...just caring to explain coz i feel u would understand... why always blaming the show makers...Vrushika has not once appreciated her fans' behavior, nor does she interact with them to let them know her pov...she infact has requested them not to abuse the showmakers n the team

How can u be so sure that if at all u got trolled, it was by the show makers only...VM might have quit on her own who knows...neither VM nor Gul ever said that the character Ishana would be returning back, they only said they are working on the track and hence it has taken a backseat for now.

And if u are feeling cheated & trolled in any way which I am sure u r...then it should be both way, by the show makers as well as by the actor, who is not letting her fans know what is her take on the whole situation or wat actually happened.

I saw some Ishana fans requesting Gul to bring Ishana back,pleading her, threatening her n demeaning her in all possible ways... wen the actress has quit and made it clear in one of her post on sns that her stint with IB is over, why are people still speaking on her behalf and indirectly degrading her by showing no self respect.


First of all thanks for understanding. Too many things are happening half of which i am unable to make head or tails of. So it feels nice to be understood.

And i appreciate your post. Trust me i do.

Now coming to VM and her fans-----i will be honest. I only saw her here and liked her mostly because she was paired opposite my favorite character in the show. I became her fan much much later. Now after reading things here and there , i have come to the conclusion that fan wars can take ugly proportions and continue for years. Now whether that is justified or not , i dont want to comment but i surely dont support it. For me , VM and her character was blank slate. I connected to her because of Ishana and i dislike that many a times that has proved to be insufficient.

Because i am a new fan i am unaware as to how she conducts herself on social media. Regarding her fans bashing the producers and others , i dont support it and never will. Social media activism is not my forte.

About why she chose to keep quite up till now----i guess it was the smart thing to do considering just how hot-headed all the concerned parties seem to be.

There is definitely the possibility of her quitting on her own. But surely even you , as a Shivikian , can see how she cant be blamed here even if she quit. What exactly was her role?
I guess many people mock us for cribbing for screen space , but even you will see that we had genuine grievances. Her character had issues , and those issues could only be sorted out by the writers . But all of a sudden that interest in her character vanished. We will never know the reason for it but something did change.

You know what hurts me the most ? It is basically these three aspects :
a) Vrunal had chemistry and they could have been really good had they been developed properly.
Also as stupid as this may sound , i have a genuine fear for Omkara and Kunal. His character and its graph have been tampered with. And yes , screen-space matters and its not how it was in the earlier episodes.

b) Contrary to the popular opinion , i always felt that Ishana wasnt as irredeemable as the makers later said her to be. Good writing can make or break any character , no matter the characterization. We have seen the makers add all these wonderful layers to Shivay , Omiejaan , Rudra and Anika. I dont think their talent couldnt do Ishana justice. Had they any interest in the character , they would have made her ok and likable too.

c) I know the reason for this point , yet despite that i felt genuinely hurt when the news came simply because i was waiting. And not bashing. The backlash would have been the same back then as it is now and i dont know what else to say except that i am hurt.

I know the producer and her team was bashed. So was the actress. I know two wrongs dont make a right , but i can only vouch for myself. None of us can control other fans , whatever type they are.

Finally , I am not one for conspiracy theories or anything , but i genuinely feel that the producer and her team were never too keen on the actress to begin with. We all know that the previous actress had been replaced and the character tweaked on the channel's behest. Maybe they didnt like this.

Khair whatever it is , i am hurt and a little sad---Not going to lie but there were some tears too...

We lost on all fronts you know. Because the actress has this huge fandom from her previous show and they dont consider us , Ishakrians , as her true fans. The forum here has , right from the beginning , tagged us all as blind Vrusshy fans which is not true for many of us. And we lost the character and the chemistry and the actress. And we were mocked and bashed and made fun of----you know something quite like kicking a horse when its down types.

It will obviously get better and i hope for every body's sake the show does well. Because if the show tanks now after all this hoopla and tamasha , then i will be super pissed.

I hope you have a good night.
Take care.
😊

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Posted: 9 years ago
#54
Actually I saw most of the comments, they have already told you that your post was childish, but now I want to add another angle to it. I am agreeing to all your points, Gul sacked Vrushika which was a very inappropriate behavior and Vrushika was sad for it, Kunal actually did not message her

Suppose you have a colleague in your team, s/he has been sacked due to underperformance (I am not saying that Vrushika was an underperformer, she actually was a gem to make her presence felt in this small screen time and illogical plot) or any other reason, would you actually message that person, this actually will make that person all the more miserable as being sympathized is not what all of us like

Vrunal were not great friends that he could have cheered her up. There are multiple people in show with whom he shoots more than what he did with Vrushika, like the screenplay writers, assistant directors, etc. and trust me these people change their production houses pretty fast, so have you ever seen Kunal or any actor in that regard messaging "Miss you" for them??
Only because actor and actress are there onscreen you tend to love them and expect them to be bffs offscreen too?
I don't know about Kunal's but for most of the actors (TV), the Social media account is handled by both the actor and the PH and they certainly do post stuff which would make viewers like what the PHs want them to like, why on this earth would they want to show that the show cast and Kunal is missing Vrushika, especially when they have asked her to leave?

I would like to conclude my comment with a simple example of Kunal, I read in this forum that he considers his co star from his previous show his sister and they revealed this once that show was over, did it ever occur to you as to why? Just because the PH do not want their onscreen couples to share a sibling bond offscreen or onscreen siblings to have romantic relations offscreen as that makes the couple boring and the sibling bond look less effective. So just understand that the actors in their IVs of offscreen SNS do not utter a single word which the PHs might dislike

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Are you a god miss "know it all", if a thing is not for display on social media, it certainly don't mean that it doesn't exist. What if Kunal personally met vrushika. I didn't see any insensitivity from K, but from people like you, who is blaming every second people and trying to instigate both K and VM fandom.
Edited by VK_Sibling_Love - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: nikki1211


First of all thanks for understanding. Too many things are happening half of which i am unable to make head or tails of. So it feels nice to be understood.

And i appreciate your post. Trust me i do.

Now coming to VM and her fans-----i will be honest. I only saw her here and liked her mostly because she was paired opposite my favorite character in the show. I became her fan much much later. Now after reading things here and there , i have come to the conclusion that fan wars can take ugly proportions and continue for years. Now whether that is justified or not , i dont want to comment but i surely dont support it. For me , VM and her character was blank slate. I connected to her because of Ishana and i dislike that many a times that has proved to be insufficient.

Because i am a new fan i am unaware as to how she conducts herself on social media. Regarding her fans bashing the producers and others , i dont support it and never will. Social media activism is not my forte.

About why she chose to keep quite up till now----i guess it was the smart thing to do considering just how hot-headed all the concerned parties seem to be.

There is definitely the possibility of her quitting on her own. But surely even you , as a Shivikian , can see how she cant be blamed here even if she quit. What exactly was her role?
I guess many people mock us for cribbing for screen space , but even you will see that we had genuine grievances. Her character had issues , and those issues could only be sorted out by the writers . But all of a sudden that interest in her character vanished. We will never know the reason for it but something did change.

You know what hurts me the most ? It is basically these three aspects :
a) Vrunal had chemistry and they could have been really good had they been developed properly.
Also as stupid as this may sound , i have a genuine fear for Omkara and Kunal. His character and its graph have been tampered with. And yes , screen-space matters and its not how it was in the earlier episodes.

b) Contrary to the popular opinion , i always felt that Ishana wasnt as irredeemable as the makers later said her to be. Good writing can make or break any character , no matter the characterization. We have seen the makers add all these wonderful layers to Shivay , Omiejaan , Rudra and Anika. I dont think their talent couldnt do Ishana justice. Had they any interest in the character , they would have made her ok and likable too.

c) I know the reason for this point , yet despite that i felt genuinely hurt when the news came simply because i was waiting. And not bashing. The backlash would have been the same back then as it is now and i dont know what else to say except that i am hurt.

I know the producer and her team was bashed. So was the actress. I know two wrongs dont make a right , but i can only vouch for myself. None of us can control other fans , whatever type they are.

Finally , I am not one for conspiracy theories or anything , but i genuinely feel that the producer and her team were never too keen on the actress to begin with. We all know that the previous actress had been replaced and the character tweaked on the channel's behest. Maybe they didnt like this.

Khair whatever it is , i am hurt and a little sad---Not going to lie but there were some tears too...

We lost on all fronts you know. Because the actress has this huge fandom from her previous show and they dont consider us , Ishakrians , as her true fans. The forum here has , right from the beginning , tagged us all as blind Vrusshy fans which is not true for many of us. And we lost the character and the chemistry and the actress. And we were mocked and bashed and made fun of----you know something quite like kicking a horse when its down types.

It will obviously get better and i hope for every body's sake the show does well. Because if the show tanks now after all this hoopla and tamasha , then i will be super pissed.

I hope you have a good night.
Take care.
😊


Nikki 👍🏼
I have only recently started liking Vrushika (and that after disliking her for the longest time). It was her portray as Ishana that won me over. Personally, I relate to Ishana more than I relate to anyone on the show. And Omkara happens to be my least liked character but together- IshKara were something I'd look forward to in a TV couple. And about writers being un-interested in Ishana- the way they neglected her character, they definitely had issues. I may come across as a ShiVika basher when I talk about them getting more SS- and tbh, I'm not a big fan of either but I've been a Surbhi fan since QH (Haya was probably the only character I liked and I watched QH as long as she lasted) and man, who doesn't like Nakul. They're doing a very wonderful job in IB. Here, I'd like to clarify that I don't place my judgments based upon the actors but the characters.

The fact that I won't get to see VruNal'c chemistry is what saddens me. They, as Ishkara, were literally fire. Anyways, I don't watch IB regularly but I do hope Omkara gets a new woman, who would complete him in all way.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: nikki1211


First of all thanks for understanding. Too many things are happening half of which i am unable to make head or tails of. So it feels nice to be understood.

And i appreciate your post. Trust me i do.

Now coming to VM and her fans-----i will be honest. I only saw her here and liked her mostly because she was paired opposite my favorite character in the show. I became her fan much much later. Now after reading things here and there , i have come to the conclusion that fan wars can take ugly proportions and continue for years. Now whether that is justified or not , i dont want to comment but i surely dont support it. For me , VM and her character was blank slate. I connected to her because of Ishana and i dislike that many a times that has proved to be insufficient.

Because i am a new fan i am unaware as to how she conducts herself on social media. Regarding her fans bashing the producers and others , i dont support it and never will. Social media activism is not my forte.

About why she chose to keep quite up till now----i guess it was the smart thing to do considering just how hot-headed all the concerned parties seem to be.

There is definitely the possibility of her quitting on her own. But surely even you , as a Shivikian , can see how she cant be blamed here even if she quit. What exactly was her role?
I guess many people mock us for cribbing for screen space , but even you will see that we had genuine grievances. Her character had issues , and those issues could only be sorted out by the writers . But all of a sudden that interest in her character vanished. We will never know the reason for it but something did change.

You know what hurts me the most ? It is basically these three aspects :
a) Vrunal had chemistry and they could have been really good had they been developed properly.
Also as stupid as this may sound , i have a genuine fear for Omkara and Kunal. His character and its graph have been tampered with. And yes , screen-space matters and its not how it was in the earlier episodes.

b) Contrary to the popular opinion , i always felt that Ishana wasnt as irredeemable as the makers later said her to be. Good writing can make or break any character , no matter the characterization. We have seen the makers add all these wonderful layers to Shivay , Omiejaan , Rudra and Anika. I dont think their talent couldnt do Ishana justice. Had they any interest in the character , they would have made her ok and likable too.

c) I know the reason for this point , yet despite that i felt genuinely hurt when the news came simply because i was waiting. And not bashing. The backlash would have been the same back then as it is now and i dont know what else to say except that i am hurt.

I know the producer and her team was bashed. So was the actress. I know two wrongs dont make a right , but i can only vouch for myself. None of us can control other fans , whatever type they are.

Finally , I am not one for conspiracy theories or anything , but i genuinely feel that the producer and her team were never too keen on the actress to begin with. We all know that the previous actress had been replaced and the character tweaked on the channel's behest. Maybe they didnt like this.

Khair whatever it is , i am hurt and a little sad---Not going to lie but there were some tears too...

We lost on all fronts you know. Because the actress has this huge fandom from her previous show and they dont consider us , Ishakrians , as her true fans. The forum here has , right from the beginning , tagged us all as blind Vrusshy fans which is not true for many of us. And we lost the character and the chemistry and the actress. And we were mocked and bashed and made fun of----you know something quite like kicking a horse when its down types.

It will obviously get better and i hope for every body's sake the show does well. Because if the show tanks now after all this hoopla and tamasha , then i will be super pissed.

I hope you have a good night.
Take care.
😊

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: VK_Sibling_Love

Are you a god miss "know it all", if thing is not for display on social media. What if Kunal personally met vrushika. I didn't see any insensitivity from K, but from people like you, who is blaming every second people and trying to intigate both K and VM fandom.



adi ejjactly ...abb K ne usse friend banaya yaa behen banaya who knows right ? friendly goodbye kia ya behenli kiya kisse patha ...
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: nikki1211


First of all thanks for understanding. Too many things are happening half of which i am unable to make head or tails of. So it feels nice to be understood.

And i appreciate your post. Trust me i do.

Now coming to VM and her fans-----i will be honest. I only saw her here and liked her mostly because she was paired opposite my favorite character in the show. I became her fan much much later. Now after reading things here and there , i have come to the conclusion that fan wars can take ugly proportions and continue for years. Now whether that is justified or not , i dont want to comment but i surely dont support it. For me , VM and her character was blank slate. I connected to her because of Ishana and i dislike that many a times that has proved to be insufficient.

Because i am a new fan i am unaware as to how she conducts herself on social media. Regarding her fans bashing the producers and others , i dont support it and never will. Social media activism is not my forte.

About why she chose to keep quite up till now----i guess it was the smart thing to do considering just how hot-headed all the concerned parties seem to be.

There is definitely the possibility of her quitting on her own. But surely even you , as a Shivikian , can see how she cant be blamed here even if she quit. What exactly was her role?
I guess many people mock us for cribbing for screen space , but even you will see that we had genuine grievances. Her character had issues , and those issues could only be sorted out by the writers . But all of a sudden that interest in her character vanished. We will never know the reason for it but something did change.

You know what hurts me the most ? It is basically these three aspects :
a) Vrunal had chemistry and they could have been really good had they been developed properly.
Also as stupid as this may sound , i have a genuine fear for Omkara and Kunal. His character and its graph have been tampered with. And yes , screen-space matters and its not how it was in the earlier episodes.

b) Contrary to the popular opinion , i always felt that Ishana wasnt as irredeemable as the makers later said her to be. Good writing can make or break any character , no matter the characterization. We have seen the makers add all these wonderful layers to Shivay , Omiejaan , Rudra and Anika. I dont think their talent couldnt do Ishana justice. Had they any interest in the character , they would have made her ok and likable too.

c) I know the reason for this point , yet despite that i felt genuinely hurt when the news came simply because i was waiting. And not bashing. The backlash would have been the same back then as it is now and i dont know what else to say except that i am hurt.

I know the producer and her team was bashed. So was the actress. I know two wrongs dont make a right , but i can only vouch for myself. None of us can control other fans , whatever type they are.

Finally , I am not one for conspiracy theories or anything , but i genuinely feel that the producer and her team were never too keen on the actress to begin with. We all know that the previous actress had been replaced and the character tweaked on the channel's behest. Maybe they didnt like this.

Khair whatever it is , i am hurt and a little sad---Not going to lie but there were some tears too...

We lost on all fronts you know. Because the actress has this huge fandom from her previous show and they dont consider us , Ishakrians , as her true fans. The forum here has , right from the beginning , tagged us all as blind Vrusshy fans which is not true for many of us. And we lost the character and the chemistry and the actress. And we were mocked and bashed and made fun of----you know something quite like kicking a horse when its down types.

It will obviously get better and i hope for every body's sake the show does well. Because if the show tanks now after all this hoopla and tamasha , then i will be super pissed.

I hope you have a good night.
Take care.
😊





Thanks to u as well for understanding and for not taking my comment as some kind of moral policing.
And this is for u 🤗 I can see how genuinely hurt u r at Ishana's character getting over on such an abrupt note and Ishkara story suffering, which is understandable, I have developed a deep attachment to the other couple and would be affected too had it happened with them.

You really don't need to give me an explanation that u are a fan of Ishana the character and not the actress playing it.,...I do read and observe and have been here for a while, and I don't say I know all or everything but I surely know that many people who became fan of the character Ishana, after the show started. And in my previous comment, I did not, in anyway include u in those fans who are indulging in social media bashing of the show and show-makers. And I think I have read ur comments there as well to Gul (not sure if it was u) which have been quite sensible and respectful.

About her not speaking till now on the issue, I have a different take, I think, she should have atleast given one message to her fans during this one month or atleast now, to assure them that they do not need to indulge in these practices and not plead to the show-makers on her behalf. If both the parties are hot -headed, or can I say its her fans actually, coz Gul has been silent on the issue, so if she would have acted as a peace-maker or communicated to her fans, things could've been a lil better, coz those fans are doing it out of their love for her and she atleast owes an answer to them if not anyone else, and these fans are going to stay with her forever.
As much as I know, its her who has quit and I think it was a great decision after the way her character was treated and sent on a break.

Again, I would request you to take what I say positively, but Ishana's screenspace issues were right from the time she entered, we have another lead, Neha, who also gets a very lil ss, but bcoz she stays in the mansion, she is atleast seen everyday. Also, the no. of fans is quite less in comparison so not many complain as well.
But for VM, it was an issue that could have been sorted out had VM and makers would've have handled it maturely and had her fans not interfered, but something that bothered everyone, was...her fans behavior on social networks, with the show-makers, writers, Gul herself...it kept on getting worse everyday and her fans never stopped. Actress never spoke for herself or to her fans, as if she had given up much before and knew that nothing was going to work. Shows will change, but fans will forever stay, so she owed an answer, or an assurance, to her fans, that things are not working so they should also not waste their time like that indulging in fan wars.

For ur points:
a) I still see that the real story has not even started...it would start soon now the way things are proceeding all of a sudden...Kunal's role may have been tampered, but it has not been reduced in anyway...its just that the current track is focussed on Shivika and they are looking for a new FL for him (I believe) He sure has a major role in the original storyline and the fact that this is a show is on 3 brothers and their Ishqbaazis. Yes during Mallika's track he hardly had much to do, but post that, I can see him back and he is there just like before, getting a decent amount of ss in relation to what the current track is.

b) I agree, the character could have been redeemed if there was a proper character sketch for her which was not the case. I always believed that the last confrontation scene did much damage and I couldn't see any way her character could've been redeemed, the whole character sketch in itself was messed up, apart from the chemistry between the lead pair, nothing in their story made sense.


I knw there were a lot of changes that were done to Ishana's character and the original storyline was changed and actress too, but we are still the audiences, we do not know the facts and I would just call it an assumption that the makers were never keen on the actress. They had their money invested, both on the actor and the show, and we will never know wat actually transpired.

The actress would probably move on and her fans too would move to whichever project she takes up next...and so would the show and makers of IB.

Its the people who were genuinely attached to the character Ishana, are upset the most...but I know u are here for Omkara's story so I hope they get a good FL opposite him now with a strong storyline and everyone is able to forget wat happened in the past and love the new character opposite him more than they loved Ishana :)

And yeah, we all are hoping the show does well in all aspects...And plz cheer up, for Kunal atleast, uski picture abhi baaki hai :-)
Edited by Crazy4Mayur - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: shipreeta



It is not Vrushika who has quit, but the PH which took the creative call and informed Vrushika (atleast this is what is flashed in the news channels), I am sure she was not informed about the exit as post that confrontation, she and Mahesh Thakur had an off-screen IV where Mahesh called her the heroine of the show, they might have asked her to leave after paying one month compensation this is what I feel



As far as I know, its VM who has quit and I saw the same on news segments too. I did see the segment of her with Mahesh Thakur wen the confrontation scene was shot, I think watever happened it was post that confrontation scene was shot so we still do not exactly know wat actually happened.

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