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Posted: 7 years ago
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OKay before tonight's episode airs, i thought this post was necessary.

Zinnah or sex out of marriage is Haram in islam .


Modern society treats sex with any person except your partner as cheating, but its important to realize that Islam has a much bigger punishment for sex out side of marriage or before marriage. Today's culture is very open about physical relationships, but Islam has no leverage for any physical relation or contact before marriage .. anybody who does that is committing a sin.

According to the segments we see kabeer devastated and broken, because before cheating on his wife, this is a heinous crime. We know how he measures everything according to gunnah and sawab .. this show is not just about personal and cultural values, its about religious values, so the accusation on Kabeer is NOT of cheating on his wife .. his accusation is of GUNNAH.

Every single show has treated this track as cheating on one's partner .. but here the accusation is the one whose punishment in Islam is death.

Committing adultery by a married man/woman is supposed to be punished by death.

SO knowing the kind of religious person Kabeer is, Ruksaar has actually accused him of something which should be punished by death in Islam. She has actually risked Kabeer's life.

There is no forgiveness for stepping out of the sanctity of nikkah in Islam and maintaining a physical relationship with some one else. Also, Islam has NEVER proposed marriage as a solution to zinna (Sex out of marriage) .. the simple penalty is death to a married person, and 100 lashes for an unmarried person.

So it needs to be kept in mind that this is not a regular vamp trying to trap hero track, a devout muslim understands how harsh is the punishment. It is not a crime which can be reversed in islam, marriage is NOT the penalty for this, thus the kind of extreme reactions that Kabeer may undergo will be completely normal. The self loathe and doubt (if he shows) has to go in sync because this is an unpardonable sin.

This doesnt account for cheating, because Kabeer knows he didnt do anything consciously, that he is sure of, so cheating is out of the book .. but he MIGHT have done something unconsciously so that only leaves him with the guilt of a sin ..

I dont know how this will be handled in the show, i dont know if i made any sense or not.. its just sex is very normal in today's society, and if done out of marriage all that its considered is cheating .. no one even mentions religion in it, its just viewed with a sociological persecutive, but there is a religious perspective to this too .. its not just cheating with ur partner .. its cheating God too .. and its irreversible.


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Posted: 7 years ago
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Thank you for letting us know the punishment for Zinnat in Islam...now I'm a little less worried about this second marriage track.


Now it sounds interesting...
I think Ruksar would have never thought it in this way, she just thought by doing all this Kabeer being man of principles will not be able to face Zara and distance himself and if possible out of guilty of spoiling Ruksar life may marry her ( like her dream where because the marriage broke on the bases of the fact she loves kabeer, kabeer decided to marry her and even earlier she underestimated kabeer that after Zara goes missing kabeer instead of searching for her will come back all alone and marry her that day itself...)
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Fantasia.

<font size="2">OKay before tonight's episode airs, i thought this post was necessary.</font>

<font size="2">Zinnah or sex out of marriage is Haram in islam .</font>


<font size="2">Modern society treats sex with any person except your partner as cheating, but its important to realize that Islam has a much bigger punishment for sex out side of marriage or before marriage. Today's culture is very open about physical relationships, but Islam has no leverage for any physical relation or contact before marriage .. anybody who does that is committing a sin.</font>

<font size="2">According to the segments we see kabeer devastated and broken, because before cheating on his wife, this is a heinous crime. We know how he measures everything according to gunnah and sawab .. this show is not just about personal and cultural values, its about religious values, so the accusation on Kabeer is NOT of cheating on his wife .. his accusation is of GUNNAH.</font>

<font size="2">Every single show has treated this track as cheating on one's partner .. but here the accusation is the one whose punishment in Islam is death.</font>

<font size="2">Committing adultery by a married man/woman is supposed to be punished by death.</font>

<font size="2">SO knowing the kind of religious person Kabeer is, Ruksaar has actually accused him of something which should be punished by death in Islam. She has actually risked Kabeer's life.</font>

<font size="2">There is no forgiveness for stepping out of the sanctity of nikkah in Islam and maintaining a physical relationship with some one else. Also, Islam has NEVER proposed marriage as a solution to zinna (Sex out of marriage) .. the simple penalty is death to a married person, and 100 lashes for an unmarried person.</font>

<font size="2">So it needs to be kept in mind that this is not a regular vamp trying to trap hero track, a devout muslim understands how harsh is the punishment. It is not a crime which can be reversed in islam, marriage is NOT the penalty for this, thus the kind of extreme reactions that Kabeer may undergo will be completely normal. The self loathe and doubt (if he shows) has to go in sync because this is an unpardonable sin.</font>

<font size="2">This doesnt account for cheating, because Kabeer knows he didnt do anything consciously, that he is sure of, so cheating is out of the book .. but he MIGHT have done something unconsciously so that only leaves him with the guilt of a sin ..</font>

<font size="2">I dont know how this will be handled in the show, i dont know if i made any sense or not.. its just sex is very normal in today's society, and if done out of marriage all that its considered is cheating .. no one even mentions religion in it, its just viewed with a sociological persecutive, but there is a religious perspective to this too .. its not just cheating with ur partner .. its cheating God too .. and its irreversible.</font>




I agree with you about all said but also in Islam you can't accuse someone until you have 4 evidence where people saw that really happened and in this case Zara was present and she stopped whatever ruksar was about to do. To sum it up the cvs already showed it in the segment where Zara is questioning ruksar about the incident how it happened and as a wife he will prove him innocent 😉
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Awesome. Very well explained. I thank you from the bottom of my heart for this post.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Wow... !!! Very Well Written Post.

Very Good Explanation on Zinnat and Potential Point of View of Kabeer. Bcoz we are not Sure How the CV's would handle this.

I noticed one thing from the beginning of the Show... Ruksar always have wrong assumptions... Things would look Like what ever she says and thinks is how things are moving but in the End it would be different.

I am surprised Why they started showing Kabeer dumb... and Oblivious of things... I understand that they have to some how move the story...😉



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Posted: 7 years ago
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You explained that really well, fantastic post! I hope CVs will handle this sensitive issue and heinous crime properly. 👏 😃
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Posted: 7 years ago
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WIll wait and watch,I have great respect and confidence for the cvs of ISA,now is the litmus test for them.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Thank you for this new perspective F!

I'm wondering when Ruks said "If she can't have Kabir, she won't let Zara have him too" is this what she had in mind?

Hope we get to see Zara explaining how Kabir is a victim & not a sinner.
We know, Kabir goes by the book,black /white , it's Zara who read those unwritten lines.

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: sravss

Thank you for letting us know the punishment for Zinnat in Islam...now I'm a little less worried about this second marriage track.


Now it sounds interesting...
I think Ruksar would have never thought it in this way, she just thought by doing all this Kabeer being man of principles will not be able to face Zara and distance himself and if possible out of guilty of spoiling Ruksar life may marry her ( like her dream where because the marriage broke on the bases of the fact she loves kabeer, kabeer decided to marry her and even earlier she underestimated kabeer that after Zara goes missing kabeer instead of searching for her will come back all alone and marry her that day itself...)


yes very true, Ruksaar is always underestimating Kabeer and over estimating the aftereffects of her plans ... she thought killing her or trapping her with a physco will separate them but it didn't happen .. and even now she thinks that making Kabeer self doubt himself will separate them . but we need to see how will this raaz come out out in the open .
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Mamisha

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I agree with you about all said but also in Islam you can't accuse someone until you have 4 evidence where people saw that really happened and in this case Zara was present and she stopped whatever ruksar was about to do. To sum it up the cvs already showed it in the segment where Zara is questioning ruksar about the incident how it happened and as a wife he will prove him innocent 😉


Yeah i have high hopes from Zara, she will go to the depth of this matter .. and plus they will get divine help too!! There will be some help from Alllah , some mistake that would come oto surface that will prove kabeer innocent ..

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