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Posted: 7 years ago
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I didn't watch the episode. Was not brave enough. My books were more interesting than Ruksar's face. 🤔😆
So seeing the post and everyone's reaction and reply on the same, Kabir is at fault.
First of all Maulvi dear, lets have some lessons shall we?
Ruksar is na mehram for you. Since you have knowledge of Quran and are a prominent follower of it then why don't you follow the rule of non mehram?

173 Rule: It is Makruh to speak to non-Mahram women, unless it is in the case of a necessity, especially if the one being spoken to is a young woman. GKLM

174 Rule: If a man knows that by speaking to a non-Mahram woman, he will fall into sin, then he must not speak to her; whether the woman speaks in such a way that she lures him into sin, or the topic is such that the man falls into sin. BGKLMS

Now regarding Kabir looking at Ruksar, then it doesn't matter what his intentions were, whether he was fascinated by her views or beauty, he is not supposed to look her at all! 🤢

"(O' Prophet!) Say to the believing men that they cast down their looks and guard their private parts - that is purer for them; surely Allah is aware of what they do. And say to the believing women that they cast down their looks...

Al-Qur'an Surah al-Nur Ayat 30-31

Therefore: Men are not permitted to look at the face and hands of women who do not observe proper hijab; for example, those women who have an amount of hair showing, have short sleeves on, or those women who have not covered their arms, wrists or hands.

10 Rule: It is haram for a man to look at the hands of a non-Mahram woman who has a ring, bangles or bracelet on, long fingernails, nail polish applied, or who has beautified herself in any other way whether the non-Mahram is a close relative or a non-family member. ABKG

And Ruksar and Kabir talking alone or just withe each other, well Kabir Maulvi dear thats not allowed too. 🤢


It is not permissible for a man to be alone with a woman who is not his mahram, because the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: "No man should be alone with a woman unless there is a mahram with them. Narrated by al-Bukhaari (1862) and Muslim (1341). And he (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: "No man is alone with a woman but the Shaytaan is the third one present. Narrated by al-Tirmidhi (1171) and classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Tirmidhi.


So Kabir dear, why are not you following the quran when it comes to Ruksar? 😡



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Posted: 7 years ago
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^^^Good lord! Kabir has sinned 😆

Thanks for the info @MSchandler.. quite interesting.

I'm curious, how can they remedy the transgressions? Like Kabir walked on a half-naked Ruksar when she deliberately went o bathe in his room.
Ok, he is twice sinned😆
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Posted: 7 years ago
#43
I stopped watching the show two days ago. There's no time to spend on something that'll frustrate me. And I have no clue why am I on this forum again.
But reading about the staring thing... man are you kidding me?? That is messed up! I see a second marriage coming up, that might not be totally forced after all 🤔
So messed up and so unwanted, in my opinion.
I did see a small muted clip where Zaara was siting on table in front of Kabeer trying to coax him into understanding. I thought it was cute and then I remembered what she was doing. Th smile just faded there from my face. Literally.
Just saw thread where some people are excited about the Ladki badi deewani hai dance sequence that is coming up. People are so forgiving! Even though they are cute and I would totally love to move on like Zara, things are messed up! They cannot be ignored in my opinion.
Such behavior from Kabeer should not be ignored, and I hope it gets addressed in the future!
P.S. I wouldn't like to see a person like Kabeer being the face of a religion.
P.S.S. I should've made this a thread rofl
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: MsChanadlerBong

I didn't watch the episode. Was not brave enough. My books were more interesting than Ruksar's face. 🤔😆

So seeing the post and everyone's reaction and reply on the same, Kabir is at fault.
First of all Maulvi dear, lets have some lessons shall we?
Ruksar is na mehram for you. Since you have knowledge of Quran and are a prominent follower of it then why don't you follow the rule of non mehram?

173 Rule: It is Makruh to speak to non-Mahram women, unless it is in the case of a necessity, especially if the one being spoken to is a young woman. GKLM

174 Rule: If a man knows that by speaking to a non-Mahram woman, he will fall into sin, then he must not speak to her; whether the woman speaks in such a way that she lures him into sin, or the topic is such that the man falls into sin. BGKLMS

Now regarding Kabir looking at Ruksar, then it doesn't matter what his intentions were, whether he was fascinated by her views or beauty, he is not supposed to look her at all! 🤢

"(O' Prophet!) Say to the believing men that they cast down their looks and guard their private parts - that is purer for them; surely Allah is aware of what they do. And say to the believing women that they cast down their looks...

Al-Qur'an Surah al-Nur Ayat 30-31

Therefore: Men are not permitted to look at the face and hands of women who do not observe proper hijab; for example, those women who have an amount of hair showing, have short sleeves on, or those women who have not covered their arms, wrists or hands.

10 Rule: It is haram for a man to look at the hands of a non-Mahram woman who has a ring, bangles or bracelet on, long fingernails, nail polish applied, or who has beautified herself in any other way whether the non-Mahram is a close relative or a non-family member. ABKG

And Ruksar and Kabir talking alone or just withe each other, well Kabir Maulvi dear thats not allowed too. 🤢


It is not permissible for a man to be alone with a woman who is not his mahram, because the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: "No man should be alone with a woman unless there is a mahram with them. Narrated by al-Bukhaari (1862) and Muslim (1341). And he (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: "No man is alone with a woman but the Shaytaan is the third one present. Narrated by al-Tirmidhi (1171) and classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Tirmidhi.


So Kabir dear, why are not you following the quran when it comes to Ruksar? 😡



@Bold: Same girl same. 😆
Woah, you did your research hun. I find it so hypocrite that Kabeer doesn't follow his on ISlamic rules but yells at anyone and everyone who he thinks doesn't.
Looks like he has understood and applied Quran with his own perspective.
This needs to be addressed in the show too. Period.
Kabeer needs to see a mirror. He'll be surprised with what he sees.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: -FlyAway-

I stopped watching the show two days ago. There's no time to spend on something that'll frustrate me. And I have no clue why am I on this forum again.

But reading about the staring thing... man are you kidding me?? That is messed up! I see a second marriage coming up, that might not be totally forced after all 🤔
So messed up and so unwanted, in my opinion.
I did see a small muted clip where Zaara was siting on table in front of Kabeer trying to coax him into understanding. I thought it was cute and then I remembered what she was doing. Th smile just faded there from my face. Literally.
Just saw thread where some people are excited about the Ladki badi deewani hai dance sequence that is coming up. People are so forgiving! Even though they are cute and I would totally love to move on like Zara, things are messed up! They cannot be ignored in my opinion.
Such behavior from Kabeer should not be ignored, and I hope it gets addressed in the future!
P.S. I wouldn't like to see a person like Kabeer being the face of a religion.
P.S.S. I should've made this a thread rofl


Think I am the only one who is not excited about that. It's either another dream sequence (because lbr with the way things are going is Kabeer really gonna break into dance with Zara 🥱) or one day later Zara will say something/do something he dislikes and he'll go back to shouting at her again and mooning over Rukhsar 'cause she's an oh-so-perfect Muslim woman innit 😡
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Posted: 7 years ago
#46
For me , it was a simple look of a person when other person said exactly same thoughts you have...
Nothing more...

He was just interested in thoughts of ruks...not interested in ruks
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: ghissapitta


Think I am the only one who is not excited about that. It's either another dream sequence (because lbr with the way things are going is Kabeer really gonna break into dance with Zara 🥱) or one day later Zara will say something/do something he dislikes and he'll go back to shouting at her again and mooning over Rukhsar 'cause she's an oh-so-perfect Muslim woman innit 😡

I thought I might get some negative replies with that dream sequence comment 😆
I thought it might be a dream sequence too~ Kabeer is dancing suddenly? Sorry, what? O.O 😆
And Zaara doesn't have her hijab on either. Found that a little fishy. I get there are only kids around, but it still is outside~ Or does it not matter?
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Okay, i watched the episode ans saw the damn long stare. Kabir is a big time hypocrite. Men are so dumb and Kabir is more than an asshole. Urghhh
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Zaara-.

Okay, i watched the episode ans saw the damn long stare. Kabir is a big time hypocrite. Men are so dumb and Kabir is more than an asshole. Urghhh


Hope he and Rukhsar do get married. Want to see him jhelofy that churdail. 😊 And since I now want talaq to happen from Zara's side, bring in some good-looking, open-minded, spirited and compassionate and intelligent man for her. I mean if ZaBeer are end game, she will still need to marry some other guy before she can go back to Kabeer after their divorce, so ring some hunk for Zara and let her stay married to him for a while.


If CVs are screwing up the story so much, might as well go all the way and screw it up to the nth amount 😃
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: -FlyAway-

I thought I might get some negative replies with that dream sequence comment 😆

I thought it might be a dream sequence too~ Kabeer is dancing suddenly? Sorry, what? O.O 😆
And Zaara doesn't have her hijab on either. Found that a little fishy. I get there are only kids around, but it still is outside~ Or does it not matter?


Yeah it's probably a dream sequence or CVs are gonna through up for a loop even more regarding Kabeer's character by making him DANCE. All this tension in their relationship rn and I'm supposed to believe they'll dance happily. It's bad enough knowing Zara is gonna have hot dreams about him despite him being a total ASSHOLE to her but they'll dance together too? Thanks again Indian TV CVs, for starting to ruin the ONE truly feminist character I had come across on a hindi show. 👏


I have no idea what does or doesn't matter anymore. I'm pretty sure she's supposed to cover up but maybe for the purpose of a dance sequence they let it go. 😆

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