The "Shaadi" Theory - My take - Page 2

Originally posted by: saaniakh

Hmmmm interesting very interesting 🤔👍🏼

Exactly!

Originally posted by: virgo994

Woahh what an analysis well done👍 . Do tell me you r not the writer of ishq mein marjawan 2. 😋😋😋

Kaash...but no, I am not. Agar hoti na to sabse pehle Riddhima ko ek acha spy hone ka training dilwati. Aur Kabir ki agent-giri ke liye ek dhang ka CBI agency dikhati. And most importantly, I would have actually tried to show some insight into Vansh's mind, because we don't get any monologues from his end.

Btw, thanks @virgo994😊

Originally posted by: eiliyafatima

Even I have noticed in the earlier episodes, you have also pointed out the several scenes in which he always follows her around like a lost puppy or something😳

Exactly, I mean shaq karne me and stalk karne me phark hota hai. The tendencies he has displayed till now, are less of a cunning mafia, and more of a stalker. Which is why I think marriage is too drastic a step just to confirm his suspicions. It's ridiculous.

I mean dude you are a big businessman so please control yourself for the sake of your image🤔

True!

As for your theory, I fancy your theory about Vansh and his obsession for Ridhima. He is infatuated with her and maybe he has been experiencing some new feelings with a female (Ridhima) in his house for the first time other than his sisters, which even he does not recognize or acknowledges

I am sure he fancies Riddhima because he knows that something is fishy about her, but she is still audacious enough to talk back at him and put him in his place. She does feel intimidated at times, but she does not take his shit lightly. She isn't afraid of his position or power he holds in the city. She isn't like the ones he has dealt with previously, and so he is running out of options to pin her for something. Honestly, this marriage reeks of Vansh's desperation in the Vansh kind of a way.

Originally posted by: masked

You have pretty much covered all the points regarding the upcoming Riansh wedding track but Kabir's actions over the past 2 episodes is confusing to say the least.He did try his best to get Ridzi out of the VR Mansion & implicated Ishani & Aryan as the Scapegoats to save his Lady-Love Ridzi.

Kabir has so far portrayed a positive character/saviour of Ridzi inspite of sending Ridzi into that hellish VR Mansion.Yes his intentions are still unclear as to why he has personal animosity against VR but is VR marrying Ridzi only bcoz he's possessive about her or desires her?

Kabir as an agent is smart but still sloppy. He knows how Vansh operates, but that does not help him at all. As an agent, he should have made arrangements as the handler of his spy to ensure that Vansh's doubts over Riddhima are erased. But all these actions of his, rather display that he is trying to remain faceless as much as possible. All that he has done to help Riddhima has only exacerbated Vansh's suspicions on Riddhima, but managed to keep him faceless. Riddhima has managed to save herself each time by sheer stroke of luck, nothing else.

VR does not trust Ridzi at all.He knows that she's a Spy working at someone's behest that's why he did that Flirting trick when Ridzi was giving him Physio sessions for his pain also gifting her a cellphone with a planted Tracker for the same.Whenever Ridzi thinks that she has gained the trust of VR Vansh is always there to prove her wrong.To state it bluntly Ridzi is always falling into VR's trap like a damsel in Distress only to be rescued by either Kabir or divine intervention.Her Luck has so far kept her alive otherwise VR would not have hesitated to kill her forget the love part.

Everybody knows that VR is no fool.He is the Mafia-Boss after all & has his own peculiar ways of finding out the truth.Even his mother is afraid of VR.Like it or not VR has got a ruthless monster hidden within him.VR might be possessive or attracted towards her but there's no guarantee of VR not killing Ridzi if she becomes a thorn in VR's Mafia-Schemes.

More than Riddhima, Kabir should know that about Vansh. An agent who is so obsessed to nail down VR, he should have trained Riddhima to be more cautious and always on alert. Kabir is supposed to guide her to gain access to Vansh, how to make him trust her, which actions will make Vansh trust her. Each and every minute detail should have been given to Riddhima. The reason Riddhima is so unprepared is because Kabir did not do his job right. Knowing how Vansh is, he should have given her proper training. Have you seen Sajda Tere Pyaar Mein. There the girl Aaliya was a civilian who resembled the dead wife of Mahendra Pratap, a terrorist. Ranveer who was an ATB agent discovered her and with full permission of his department, on the pretext of studying abroad, trained her for a month in defense, strategy and also had her trained by a grooming expert so that she can be a femme fatale. And what do we get here?? Ghanta.

Its upto Ridzi to tame that Monster if at all there's a love story that were to happen between them.For VR killing/murdering someone is a normal thing.Angre does the hatchet jobs for him.Ridzi is simply a target for VR now.He won't let go of her whatever might be the excuse-attraction or distrust or both.

I have replied in another topic on the IMMJ theme song which is played for Vansh, the male version. That does not play for Riddhima with Vansh, but for Kabir. So the current situation is Riddhima can cross all limits for Kabir, and Vansh probably will cross all limits for Riddhima. But will that scenario change? Will Riddhima do the same for Vansh? Will Kabir turn out to be much more than just some usoolon wala officer? Is Vansh really as cunning as being shown? Who knows.

Considering that a girl like Arohi had accepted/madly loved Deep inspite of all his faults her counterpart Ridzi would do the same for VR too only if Kabir gets out of the way & that too when Kabir exposes his real intentions behind the operation VR.

Well, isn't love like that. Loving the person as it is. Riddhima is quite capable of loving Vansh despite of all that he is. And if Kabir in any way manipulates and hurts Riddhima, and Vansh turns out to be the savior when she least expects, then love is possible. Do you remember Aishwarya Ray-Abhishek Bachchan starter, Ravan? There the bad guy wasn't so bad, and the supposed good guy wasn't so good. And Aishwarya did sympathize with Beera eventually, probably she also began liking him. But that was a movie, this is a show. I am just waiting for more clarity in terms of Kabir and Vansh and Riddhima. All three are dodgy in my opinion.

Originally posted by: Manisha_Vankar

Vansh ko itni jaldi kya he shadi ki...samaj nahi aa raha...aur aesa bhi nahi he ki kabir pakda gaya ho...aur wo saza ke taur pe shadi kar raha he...

Aur saza hi de ni ho to aur bhi to raste he fir shadi hi kyu...

Aesa lagta to he ki vansh impress he ridz se...par kya wo is reason se shadi karega...

Aur ridz kyu manegi shadi ke diye...

Omg kitne sare questions he mere dimag me...episode ke bad hi mujhe kuch samaj aayega

Episode dekhne ke baad bhi kuch samajh aayega ya nahi, koi guarantee nahi hai. Koi bhi logic hai pure situation me. Mujhe aisa lag raha hai ke Vansh ab bahut hi desperate hai sach janne ko, isiliye ye harkat ki hai. Warna usko ye sab karne ki kya zarurat hai? Apne ek shaq ko dur karne ke liye koi shaadi ka announcement thode hi na karta hai. Ye sirf desperation hai sach janne ko aur kuch nahi.

Originally posted by: HeytzMaaneet

Hi,

I'm new here just read your post you have actually penned down exactly what most of us are feeling!

Have also posted my views in a separate post do check that out too if you want 😊

Hi @HetyzMaaneet 😊

We are all absolutely clueless when it comes to some of the plot points of this show. So we are just busy predicting, but rest is all on creatives.

Sure, will do.

Originally posted by: errumz

You have written everything so well

Completely agree with you 👍🏼

Thanks, @errumz. Appreciate it. 😊

@libran as usual your points are off the charts.However there is one crucial difference between the 2 Don characters-Mahendra Pratap and VR.Unlike Pratap VR is not an emotional wreck and does not have a late wife resembling our sloppy agent Ridzi.

VR is in complete control of himself as well as his surroundings.Ridzi is not a femme fatale like Aaliya yet somehow she's still holding her own against VR. But still I don't trust VR.Somehow I sense something Fishy regarding him.

As for the sloppy agent Kabir initially I considered him the Deep of this season till VR's recent actions changed my POV. Who was that lady VR was talking to that night which Ridzi & the rest of the viewers like us could not see? What information did Angre give VR on the phone during that crew track regarding Ridzi's room? What kind of deadly secrets are there within the VR mansion itself?

Everybody thinks Kabir is the Deep-Part 2 on this forum bcoz of shipping Riansh but unlike Kabir Deep was an intricate planner who made detailed plans taking into account every possible pitfalls.Deep used to reveal his deck of cards at the end of each plan. I don't disagree that Kabir has got his own malicious intentions but VR is in the dock too.

Kabir has started thinking like a real agent while VR continues using his Mafia Mind to figure out Ridzi's secret. Both are untrustworthy characters.This might be a joint game also between the two.

VR's recent actions his intricate planning keen observations regarding Ridzi scream Deep part 2.Both Kabir and VR are the Masterminds within their own world.

Another contrarian perspective is what if Kabir is really a good person at heart? What if Kabir is really like the Ranveer of Sajda? Yes his methods are sloppy but he might have good intentions. Who knows Kabir perhaps really loves his country along with Ridzi & since VR was adept at detecting undercover agents due to his experience he decided to take the risk of sending a civilian with no Police or Security/Official records like Ridzi.You have to consider every damn possibility.This is IMMJ. We know what kind of unpredictable things happened in the previous season. Perhaps Kabir needed a person with a clean slate and Ridzi fit the bill perfectly.

Both Kabir and VR are grey characters but VR has more negative shades than Kabir now. VR also has the stigma of 2 murders along with the other past murders already on his resume.He is the Mafia after all. One is Agent Neha with the other person murdered by Angre on his orders in front of Ridzi.

Kabir has not killed any person so far with the exception of killing his love perhaps by sending Ridzi into VR's den.

VR has so far not given any reason to believe him.VR is marrying Ridzi suddenly inspite of his lack of trust in her just to trap her in her own web. Magic of Attraction has only short term effects.Siya seems to be keen on playing the cupid for her bro VR and some already suspect her too.

This wedding is only the Wedding of Convenience for VR's sake. He's not gonna invest time in this unlikely relationship. Right now VR is gonna use every dirty trick in the book to expose Riddhima.

Great analysis! The writers have set things up so that the story really can go any way.

The fact that Riddima is unfazed by his power, wealth, anger, doesn't sit well with Vansh. He's really not used to being judged or refused. He's also not used to someone saying 'No' to him.

But she did. She refused his job offer and only accepted for Sia. She also refused to take the phone but then agreed only because of Sia. Even though Vansh gave it to her to spy on her, it still bothered him that she refused him. She tries to show him his limits, which even his own family can't or won't dare do. He is often shocked that she answers him back and holds her ground, knows her mind.

I think tomorrow's episode will make it a bit clearer as to why Vansh wants to marry her. Vansh is a control freak who really does want to engineer everything that goes around him, be it with his family, employees, clients, enemies, or even the police.

My theory, which could be totally wrong of course, is that Riddima makes him realize he has no claim on her, nothing to make her stay in his mansion. If she's no longer his employee, then on what pretext can he keep her? The answer is to make her family, based on which he can then exert his right to not only keep her in his life, but also quell her little rebellion against him.

There's also a tiny part of him that cannot stand the fact that she is loyal to someone who probably is middle-class like her, someone she treasures, who is the only person in this orphan's life. He understands that there is an invisible pull this unknown man exerts on Riddima, that none of his words or actions can match up to, and his competitive streak doesn't like that either.

Vansh, despite all the wealth and supposed success in the world, is still lonely. Sure, Angre, Siya, Dadi, and his mom are close to him, but at a certain point in life family and friends are not enough for a person, because that's when he needs a companion.

He has nothing that can win over someone like Riddima. Her laughter, simplicity, and carefree attitude is something he could never have - he just has too much going on in his life with respect to his work and his family responsibilities. Somewhere, he probably is envious of her burden-free life. Being around her gives him a glimpse of a different way of life that he may have never envisioned but might now aspire to. The catch is that he cannot lead such a life on his own. If he wants to be part of that other world, he will have to make sure Riddima is at the center of it and that she revolves around no one but him.

Sorry for rambling - these are just some thoughts that came to mind. I might be completely off the mark. This is IMMJ after all! 😉

Originally posted by: masked

@libran as usual your points are off the charts.

Is that a good thing or bad thing @masked? I mean I am confused, whether you liked the post or not.😆

However there is one crucial difference between the 2 Don characters-Mahendra Pratap and VR.Unlike Pratap VR is not an emotional wreck and does not have a late wife resembling our sloppy agent Ridzi.

See, MP was an emotional wreck and his feelings were visible, whether he did anything good or bad. With Vansh, it is so damn difficult to understand, what exactly he is feeling or thinking. I haven't denied that he is some cunning cold criminal. But I also feel there is more to that. The problem is the missing links in the story which do not give me clarity about Kabir, Vansh, or Riddhima.

VR is in complete control of himself as well as his surroundings.Ridzi is not a femme fatale like Aaliya yet somehow she's still holding her own against VR. But still I don't trust VR.Somehow I sense something Fishy regarding him.

Vansh likes to be in control all the time, but that goes for a toss with Riddhima because she does not fear him because he is powerful. She fears him because with him shadowing her all the time, she finds it difficult to spy on him. Aliya was trained to be a femme fatal, but Riddhima is the most lousy spy in the history of spies. Of course, Vansh is not a simple bad, cunning guy. There is more. He hides a lot of secrets. I think most of them are personal. I always feel that there is this strange over-emphasis on Vansh's villainy, Kabir's sloppiness, and Riddhima's brainlessness. Going by the 3 characters, these things are hard to ignore.

As for the sloppy agent Kabir initially I considered him the Deep of this season till VR's recent actions changed my POV. Who was that lady VR was talking to that night which Ridzi & the rest of the viewers like us could not see? What information did Angre give VR on the phone during that crew track regarding Ridzi's room? What kind of deadly secrets are there within the VR mansion itself?

Everybody thinks Kabir is the Deep-Part 2 on this forum bcoz of shipping Riansh but unlike Kabir Deep was an intricate planner who made detailed plans taking into account every possible pitfalls.Deep used to reveal his deck of cards at the end of each plan. I don't disagree that Kabir has got his own malicious intentions but VR is in the dock too.

I don't know who is the Deep in this season. Honestly, I am not comparing both seasons. Both stories are vastly different. But one thing I can sense is, there is no 1 Deep this season. In fact, I believe all 3 leads - Vansh, Kabir & Riddhima have their separate agendas and all 3 are Deeps. And yes, I am a little biased towards Vansh and Riddhima, because I just feel both of them are better suited to each other because somewhere I feel that unlike Kabir who just on an impulse sent in Riddhima to "sleep with the enemy", Vansh would not have done that with his gf or wife. Vansh is overly protective of his people. Also, I feel that Vansh and Riddhima are like Yin and Yang in a way, pole opposites yet meant to blend into each other.

Kabir has started thinking like a real agent while VR continues using his Mafia Mind to figure out Ridzi's secret. Both are untrustworthy characters.This might be a joint game also between the two.

Surely, both KaVa could be in it together. But for what? What do you think can be the reason to pull Riddhima in this game.

VR's recent actions his intricate planning keen observations regarding Ridzi scream Deep part 2.Both Kabir and VR are the Masterminds within their own world.

I will once again say that don't underestimate Riddhima for once. Riddhima too could be another Deep. I get those vibes from her. She is too simple for my taste, and for a thriller.

Another contrarian perspective is what if Kabir is really a good person at heart? What if Kabir is really like the Ranveer of Sajda? Yes his methods are sloppy but he might have good intentions. Who knows Kabir perhaps really loves his country along with Ridzi & since VR was adept at detecting undercover agents due to his experience he decided to take the risk of sending a civilian with no Police or Security/Official records like Ridzi.You have to consider every damn possibility.This is IMMJ. We know what kind of unpredictable things happened in the previous season. Perhaps Kabir needed a person with a clean slate and Ridzi fit the bill perfectly.

Surely, Kabir is capable of being an honest, principled officer. But then again, for me to feel that way, the creatives need to convince me regarding the authenticity of his CBI agent character. There needs to be a proper agency backdrop and some higher authorities and officers to back up Kabir's character. Recruiting a civilian for your work is plausible only if he has clearance from his dept. That was not developed either. They just threw Riddhima into this awry plan the very next day. So, everything should be considered, but creatives should convince me of the same. Otherwise, I don't find any sense of trust in Kabir.

Both Kabir and VR are grey characters but VR has more negative shades than Kabir now. VR also has the stigma of 2 murders along with the other past murders already on his resume.He is the Mafia after all. One is Agent Neha with the other person murdered by Angre on his orders in front of Ridzi.

Surely, they are grey characters. And currently, Vansh has a darker shade, or that's what the creatives are trying to show. Regarding the murders on Vansh's resume, Neha was one. Whether she died or not, I would like to know. Very unconvincing death. Secondly, that bloke who was beaten the crap out of, I don't think he died. Angre just took him away, so cannot assume he is dead. I may be wrong also.

Kabir has not killed any person so far with the exception of killing his love perhaps by sending Ridzi into VR's den.

Yes, as of now, no one died in Kabir's camp and Vansh ke camp me 2 deaths hui hai. Honestly, very bad execution. They could have shown the deaths better. Because that then leaves the door open for their re-entry. Regarding the killing of love, yes I agree.

VR has so far not given any reason to believe him.VR is marrying Ridzi suddenly inspite of his lack of trust in her just to trap her in her own web. Magic of Attraction has only short term effects.Siya seems to be keen on playing the cupid for her bro VR and some already suspect her too.

Well, works both ways. He trusts no one either. Attraction is there and many other things are there, which of course we don't get to know because Vansh does not express at all.

This wedding is only the Wedding of Convenience for VR's sake. He's not gonna invest time in this unlikely relationship. Right now VR is gonna use every dirty trick in the book to expose Riddhima.

I agree. It reeks of desperation.