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Posted: 7 years ago
Woww!!sooo cuteee fight between Parth & Madhav !!! Eagerly waiting for the next part!!please please update soon please...
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Thank you for the update, please post new one soon.

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Arjuna & Eight-formed Siva



Kirata comes

One day after the fifth month, Arjuna opened his eyes and saw the Kirata form of Siva and the huge mass of women. That's when shukara appeared and Arjuna shot it as did Kirata. Kirata was angry at Arjuna and said that he was already targeting the boar when Arjuna broke the rules of hunting and shot it. Now Arjuna has to pay. Arjuna said that when the Kirata had drawn the bow, he realized that this is no ordinary Kirata. Soon Kirata covered him with arrows which were repelled by Arjuna.

Then Arjuna with his arrows wounded the Kirata. Suddenly, there were hundreds and thousands and multitude of Kirata forms, Arjuna then wounded them all and they all collapsed into EKABHUTA.

That one form vanished when Arjuna wounded it. Then that Kirata took a very small form but his temple or front of face was very large. Then he became very large but very small head or temple. Similarly, Kirata recycled through a series of described Siva forms and faces. Sometimes Vamadeva, sometimes Pinaki, sometimes Sveta, sometimes Shikhandin, sometimes Attahassi, et all.

When Siva had gone through multiple moortis, he swallowed Gandiva and the quivers themselves. Rendered weaponless, Arjuna still attacked the Kirata in wrestling and in exchange of hand attacks (definitely a form of Karate or boxing but with hand open and not closed in a fist, it is also described in couple of other places in Mahabharata) Arjuna realizing who the deva purusha is and fell on his feet. Laughing, Kirata vanished and in his place stood Siva himself.

>Siva and Uma appeared in their divine forms and Siva blessed Arjuna "O Conqueror of enemies, I am satisfied by your tapa and skill level. Please take this bow and quivers of yours back. I wish you to ask any boon in the world. Ask any boon except immortality.

>Arjuna confessed that his heart is always in the knowledge of weapons and requested that he get to know all weapons available to Devas. Lord Tryambaka replied that " Not only the weapons of Gods but all, each and everyone of the Divyastras will be known to you. There will be no Divyastra which you cannot use, call back, repel, use as prayashachita and suborn to your needs or revive after Pratighata.

>Siva then further elaborated "My Raudrastra will himself go and become part of your inventory. Then Siva with great happiness, also gave the Great (Mahan) PashupataAstra to Arjuna.

>"O Warrior, In Astra-yuddha, you will have no rival. Kurushrestha, you are always alert, focused, skilled in every kala, have control of your senses and are always truthful. Not only you have this knowledge of weapons, you do not have the arrogance but incredible bravery to go with it. You will know all five Vidhis and the fifteen Astras and no one else knows these. Thus, you have full knowledge of Prayoga, Upasanhara, Avrati, Prayashchita and Pratighata.

>Siva also asked Arjuna to not use the weapons on humans. Especially PasupataAstra, which if used against a lower skilled warrior will go unchecked and destroy the world. Even other weapons, no one should use the divine weapons in any human conflict. Only when attacked by huge numbers and on all sides, to protect your own life, only the divine weapons should be used. The warrior using divine weapons when not in peril is not a true warrior.

Pashupata Astra

Soon, the Pashupatan Astra appeared in divine form and stood next to Arjuna. Siva introduced Pashupata Astra to Arjuna and then Arjuna sat down and mentally consumed the knowledge of weapons.

>Pashupataastra has three heads, three temples, Nine eyes, Six arms. His hair is burning like sun. His clothes are made of large alive serpents. His yagopavita was another great Naga. When you unleash it, it takes hundreds and thousands of forms.

>Huge and powerful Deer, animals, Lions, Tigers, Bears, Buffaloes, Serpents, Cows, Sharabhas, Elephants, Vanaras, Bailas, Shukaras, Bilavas, Wolves, Preats, Bhurundas, Vultures, Chamari Cow, Devatas, Rishis, Gandharvas, Pishachas, Yakshas, Rakshasas, Guhyakas, Nishacharas, Matasayas, Gajomukhas (Men with faces of elephants and bodies of men), Owls, Meeenas and Horses would appear each having many weapons and swords in their hands. Then would appear Gada and Mudgara wielding Yatudhanas.

>Some would have three heads, some four jaws, some four faces, some four arms, some just skeletons, some made of flesh, some of plants and some medha. They then would attack the target and destroy it.

>Because this weapon spawns these creatures, they need to satisfy their blood lust so using them on lower level enemies would not satisfy these terrifying creatures so they will continue unchecked and destroy the whole nature. Thus, Pashupata should be used sparingly and with very extreme discretion.

Other weapons mentioned:

The SthurnakarnaAstra: this is the weapon of the Rudra Shankukarna. It is the most powerful of Raudrastras bar one. That one also was given to Arjuna.
Jaalastra: This is Jalavarshaka astra, a variant of Varunastra.Jaalastra is offensive and Varunastra is defensive.
Sharvarshastra: This creates clouds who continually shower arrows like real clouds shower rain.
Shalabhastra: This is the Locust like weapon. Like thousands of Locusts swarm and then attack and destroy the vegetation. This astra creates thousands and millions of arrows which take over the horizon and sky and then direct themselves to enemies like locusts direct themselves to vegetation.
Ashmavarsha: This is variant of Sharvastra where instead of arrows, the rocks are dropped like clouds drops hail.

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Posted: 7 years ago
Wow, this was quite an amazing post with such vivid description of weapons. I don't think I read such description of Pasupathastra anywhere, even in BORI edition I don't recollect it was thus mentioned.
You are one really brilliant and dedicated writer.

Eagerly awaiting for the continuation of the battle!

As far as I know, in Arjun's lifetime, apart from the defeat at the hands of Babruvahan (in part due to Vasu's curse etc.,), and a defeat at the hands of some robbers/thieves during his last stages of life. I don't think Arjun was ever defeated in any battle nor ever retreated from any battle. Am I correct in stating that Arjun was the only undefeated warrior in his era apart from the above instances? Specially, he never got defeated nor ever retreated in any major battle?

Thank you so much and please keep it going!


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Posted: 7 years ago

PER BORI CE ARJUNA WAS not DEFEATED BY ROBBERS

Well as we all know that our Mahanayak Arjuna has many haters who very well know Jishnu was incapable of getting defeated even by the gods still they are saying that according to BORI CE Arjuna was defeated by robbers.

This post is divided in four parts :-

1). Misconception about "Vimna Partho"
2). Meaning of every word used in the shloka
3). Mistranslation by Bibek Debroy
4). Correct translation of the shloka

1). Misconception about "Vimna Partho"

Here's the meaning of

Vimna = Cheerless
http://sanskritdictionary.com/...
http://spokensanskrit.org/index.php...

Here's the meaning of

Vimana = Aeroplane/ Flight
http://spokensanskrit.org/index.php...

So as you all can see, Sanskrit dictionary defines Vimna as cheerless not flight but as you all know our illiterate blondries are expert in misinterpretating the texts and mistranslating verses to fool the public.Blondries can't even read properly what is written in the shloka that's why they consider vimna and vimana to be of same meaning
So now we can safely conclude that Arjuna was cheerless that's why Vimna is used because it means disappointed not vice versa.

2). Meaning of every word used in the Shloka

Here's the Shloka from BORI CE which is mistranslated by Karna fans :-

64

Now here is the meaning of words used in the shloka :-

:- Became

:- exceedingly cheerless

:- Partha

:- Regarding it all as the work of destiny

:- Ceased

:- He then

:- o king

:- to make further efforts, saying, he had not the power which he had before

3). Mistranslation by Bibek Debroy

Here's the translation given by Bibek Debroy of this shloka :-

Partha was cheerless and thought.O king! He started to retreat and said, "This is nothing but destiny. The immensely intelligent one collected the remaining wives and the remaining jewels and went to Kurukshetra.

Here Bibek Debroy has himself added the word "retreat" in the translation which is evident from the fact that none of any word used in the shloka means retreat or fled away as per Sanskrit dictionary.So it is clear that Bibek Debroy has mistranslated the verse.Bibek Debroy is a great scholar and he did a lot of hardwork in translating BORI CE in English but afterall he is also a human being like us so he can also make mistakes while translating the verses

4). Correct translation of the shloka

Here's the correct translation of the shloka :-

Regarding it all as the work of destiny, he became exceedingly cheerless. He then ceased, O king, to make further efforts, saying, he had not the power which he had before

KMG also gave the same translation of the shloka.Here's the link :- www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m16/m16007.htm

Not only KMG but P.C Roy also gave the same translation of the shloka.

Conclusion :- As per BORI CE and KMG as well Arjuna was never defeated by robbers

Edited by ltelidevara - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago

Arjuna was never defeated by the robbers in Dwarka. But he failed to protect the Vrishni ladies from the robbers.

Some people think that Arjun failed to lift the Gandiva,which is incorrect,not written anywhere in Mausala Parva. If he failed to lift the Gandiva then how come he return it back to Varuna deva in Mahaprasthanika?

Yes,its written that Arjuna had a great difficulty in stringing the bow,but that was because hundreds of robbers attacked him at the same time when he was trying to string his bow(Mahabharat Parva 16,Chapter 7,Sloka 55)

It's also a known fact that Gandiva could have been stringed only by Arjun,Bhima and Shri Krishna and no fourth human. (Mahabharat Parva 3,Chapter 12,Sloka 77)

Arjuna tried to invoke his divine weapons,but none of them appeared. (Mahabharat Parva 16,Chapter 7,Sloka 56)

Then Arjun attacked the robbers with his arrows,very quickly his quiver of arrows got exhausted which was inexhaustible. (Mahabharat Parva 16,Chapter 7,Sloka 61)

Even after all this,Arjuna did not gave up,he attacked the robbers with the horns of his Gandiva bow and started killing them. (Mahabharat Parva 16,Chapter 7,Sloka 62)

Arjuna managed to save the primary wives of Shri Krishna but since the robbers were in thousands and Arjuna alone was practically weaponless(Just had a bow,no arrows,no celestial weapons),he could not save the remaining women and wealth which robbers stole.Arjuna became sad on this and went to Ved Vyas.

Now the question is,Why did Arjun's celestial weapons didn't work? Why did his quivers of arrows became exhausted which was once inexhaustible ?Why did Arjun lost the strength of his arms? Why Arjuna failed to protect remaning Vrishni women ?

Ved Vyas tells us the answers -
Vyas tells Arjuna that his weapons have achieved success,so they have returned back to the place from where they came from. That's why his arrows got exhausted and his celestial weapons did not appear. Arjun's job on earth was over,that's why his weapons were taken back, when time will come,he will again get the weapons back in his hands. (Mahabharat Parva 16,Chapter 8,Sloka 35-36)

Arjuna failed to protect the remaining Vrishni women and lost the strength of his arms against robbers because those women in their previous birth were cursed by a sage to get kidnapped by Abhiras. Boons and curses are bound to happen (Mahabharat Parva 16,Chapter 8,Sloka 27)

Apart from this,Ved Vyas in the same chapter says that Arjuna is an undefeated warrior and he does not know even a single incident where Arjuna has been defeated,Perhaps that's the reason he is called '#Vijayaor #Undefeated'. (Mahabharat Parva 16,Chapter 8,Sloka 6)

P.S: Vyasa himself said "I do not know that thou hast been defeated by anyone."
http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m16/m16008.htm (whole conversation between Vyas & Arjun)

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Posted: 7 years ago

the battle between Sire and son, Arjuna vs Babruvahana

After reaching Manipura, Arjuna fought with his Babruvahana as part of his task. Arjuna wished not to slay Babruvahana under the order of his elder brother and also because of love towards his son. At last, Arjuna fell down into a deep swoon. It should be noted that Arjuna was not slained here. He just fell down into swoon.

The delighter of the Kurus, Dhananjaya, deeply pierced therewith by his son, then fell down in a swoon on the Earth.

www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m14/m14079.htm

When Babruvahana was weeping with grief on the account of the battle with his father, and also thinking that he slained his own sire, Ulupi, the naga princess comforted him by saying :

The daughter of the prince of snakes taking it up, uttered these words that highly gladdened the combatants standing on the field. 'Rise up, O son. Do not grieve. #Jishnu has #not been #vanquished by thee. This hero is #incapable of being #vanquished by #men as also by the #deities with Vasava himself at their head. I have #exhibited this #illusion, #deceiving your #senses, for the benefit of this foremost of men, viz. , thy illustrious sire. O thou of Kuru's race, desirous of ascertaining the prowess of
thyself, his son, this slayer of hostile heroes, O king, came here for battling with thee. It was for that reason, O son, that thou wert urged by me to do battle. O puissant king, O son, do not suspect that thou hast committed any, even the least, fault, by accepting his challenge. He is a #Rishi, of a mighty #soul, #eternal and #indestructible. O dear son, #Sakra himself is #incapable of #vanquishing him in battle.

www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m14/m14080.htm

Now comes the reason why Arjuna felled into a deep swoon against his son.

Ulupi said :

Formerly, O ruler of Earth, I heard this said by the Vasus while they were in the company of Ganga, O thou of great intelligence. After the fall of Santanu's son, those deities, viz. , the Vasus, coming to the banks of Ganga, bathed in her waters, and calling the goddess of that stream, they uttered these terrible words having the sanction of Bhagirathi herself, viz.,--Santanu's
son Bhishma has been slain by DhananjayaFor this fault we shall today denounce a curse on Dhananjaya.--To this, the goddess Ganga readily assented, saying,--Be it so!--Hearing these words I became very much afflicted and penetrating into the nether regions represented everything to my
sire. Informed of what had happened, my sire became plunged in grief. Repairing to the
Vasus, he solicited them for thy sake,
repeatedly gratifying them by every means in
his power. They then said unto him,
'Dhananjaya has a highly blessed son who,
endued with youth, is the ruler of Manipura.
He will, standing on the field of battle, cast
Dhananjaya down on the Earth. When this
will happen, O prince of snakes, Arjuna will
be freed from our curse. Do thou go back.

www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m14/m14081.htm

The curse of Vasus was the reason for the so called 'Defeat' of Arjuna. All the curses should be respected, so is boons also. Babruvahana in fact was not a match for Arjuna. No one was able to defeat Arjuna except Arjuna himself. A son is ones ownself. It is because of this Ulupi arranged a battle between Arjuna and Babruvahana. Neither Arjuna was defeated nor killed in this battle.

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The intensity of the duel magnified with both of them hurling Astras to find the other one nullify them successfully. There is noindication of any one showing any kind of fatigue or tension . Both immersed seriously into the exhibition of skills that became a treat to even the celestials watching them from heaven.
Indra was perturbed and went to Brahma." Isn't it time to stop them? The heat of the Astras is causing effect on the three worlds. Why is sage Galav bent upon destroying the balance of the universe?

Brahma nodded his head." But how could we stop Narayan? For that matter your son also is stubborn and won't retreat from battle." He remarked.
Indra has a proud smile on his face." I must confess.. Even Narayan can not defeat him. They both will emerge equals in every way."

Sankar Shiv ordered Brahmadev." Go and stop the battle. Let Krishna kill Chitrasen but you get him back to life. Arjun's word also should be kept.

Uma Parvati said." Ask that sage to practice samyam and stay away from this kind of misdeeds. As a Brahmin he should have forgiven Chitrasen."

The earth shook slightly much to the horror of people who have no idea what is going on that made such impact.

Brahma scolded his son Narad." Had your fill? Why do you take pleasure in creating misunderstandings? Go to Yudhishtir and bring him to war place.


Satya Panchali and Subhadra rushed to the spot gasping for breath. After the earth shook slightly they could not stay away and disregarded Balram's order.

Panchali stared at her Arjun who closed his eyes chanting the mantra of may be a devastating Astra the power of which made his whole form shone with great splendour.
Satya understood her Swami is on the verge of hurling the invincible Narayanastra?


Subhadra with tearful eyes looked at Arjun. Will he hurl Brahmasir on her brother?

A big hallow surrounded the chariots making both the Warriors invisible .

The birds in the sky stopped flying,the animals stood still Yamuna freezed with fear.

The Sun hid under the clouds. Celestials shivered with fear. Is this the end of creation?


Krishna and Arjun opened their eyes and took aim. Arjun stretched his string to his ear as Gandiv thrummed with menace.

Suddenly Brahmadev's voice is heard.' Stop it both of you.. Don't go ahead.
Yudhishtir raised his hand and called out." Arjun! Enough. No more fighting now. I order you "


Brahma said." Narayan stop the fight. You both are Nar Narayan. Equals in every way. No result will be seen even if you prolong the war."


Krishna said in a calm voice." But my word should be honoured. He paused..Parth also should not feel let down.

Balaram is desparate. His Kanha won't change.


Brahma addressed Arjun" Give away Chitrasen to Krishna."


Arjun looked confused. He then looked at Krishna who signalled him to do so.

Chitrasen walked towards Krishna with folded hands.Sage Galav beamed with joy.
Next minute Krishna killed Chitrasena by shooting an arrow. Within a minute Brahma sprinkled the water from his Kamandalu and brought him back to life.

Suddenly there was silence around as what happened before their eyes made them bewildered.


Bheem shouted with joy and lifted Arjun from the chariot. Nakul danced around while Yudhishtir and Sahadev smiled with relief.


Balaram hugged Krishna and said." I sm proud of you."


Satya rushed fast and praised the friends. She instantly asked Arjun." By the way what is your counter Astra for my lord's final Astra? I think he is about to hurl Narayanastra or Vaishnavastr.

Arjun taunted her as usual " Why do you bother? It is between us both."


Chitrasen wept in relief. He fell at the feet of Krishna and Arjun.

Ratnavali and Sobhavali rushed there and hugged Subhadra who tried to distance them saying don't ever play your trick on anyone else. It is wrong to do so.

Panchali could not control her joy seeing her victorious husband prove he can even stand before her Govind himself.

Krishna hugged Arjun and said tongue in cheek." Parth... You looked like practicing your early morning due. So carefree. But it is fun. Isn't it?

Arjun replied cheerfully." Absolutely Madhav. Otherwise I would never have had an opportunity to test myself against you. I enjoyed every bit of it.

Brahmadev blessed him and said." Arjun, You have Narayan SankarShiv and myself take your side because of your commitment and focus. Be victorious in the greatest war ahead.

After he disappeared Arjun asked Krishna' What is that greatest war ahead?

Krishna avoided his query and smirked." Both my sister and Sakhi ditched me and stood on your side. I am disappointed."

Subhadra sulked." Enough Bhrata you don't know how tensed up I was. On top of it Balram Bhrata never leaves an occasion to corner my husband."
Balaram touched her head and promised." I won't do it again. Your husband proved his worth. I will never ever come between them both.

Yudhishtir folded his hands and requested." Now everything ended in peace. Please Grace Indraprasth and bless us as usual.

Krishna teased Draupadi." I am still awaiting your explanation."
Panchali smirked." Govind you yourself stood by him and you are cornering me. Ridiculous.

Everyone laughed while Arjun cast a besotted glance at his lotus eyed wife while she returned it with her loving glance.

We have an important work..you all go we will catch up..Krishna pulled Arjun and started.

Satya questioned suspiciously.What Is that important?

Arjun retorted." We both have another dual today in Yamuna waters. In swimming against her violent tides. If you want you can be the referee.

Satya's face turned red while Krishna declared" Today I will win Parth" Arjun disagreed." No way I am in winning streak. Let us see."

Both of them ran towards the shore vying with each other while sage Galav threw his hands in despair." Fie on me to think they will turn rivals because of me. They are inseparable I understood.

Narad laughed and stated." I showed you and the world how one power shines in two forms. I had my fill. Now let us leave."

Uma smiled at Sankar Shiv." True Swami my brother proved how his Parth is equal to him in every way.I understood why he let the war happen.

Shiv smiled back and said." Narayan 's every deed has a great significance. Now be pleased. Peace prevailed . Arjun fought with Narayan and proved himself.Very soon he has to fight with me also.

UmaParvati looked at her Mahadev and confessed." I will wait for the moment.

Edited by ltelidevara - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
Woww!!woww!!!woww!!!just awsome... I can't express how much I loved this!!!!
How nicely you describe the fight... Just fabulous!!! And our Parth & Madhav are soo sweet...😆 Haha...just awsome di👏..and please update soon!!!please!!!
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Thanks so much for the detailed explanation on Arjun's encounters and clearing the doubts!
Also, thank you for the wonderful post concluding the battle between Madhav and Paarth.

Awesome conclusion to the battle and wonderful narration !


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