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Posted: 10 years ago
Exactly , that is what differentiates him from Yuddhi in going against norms to protect his wife .I personally feel that they were a happy family in polyandry and Draupadi had no issues with it ..It is only later that she had issues with Yuddhi after staking and punishment .I also feel neither mother nor brother were wrong as mother said it in ignorance and brother came up with a solution which was within Dharma and his duty according to that yug ...I might sound like a happy Pandava family shipper but it was no ones mistake IMO.
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Posted: 10 years ago
When any third person enters a relationship there are always doubts and insecurities...With Subhadra entering Arjuna's life...whether he loved or not is immaterial here...Drau would definitely have had some issues with it...
The fact that both the women overcame their initial qualms and became such good friends is a testimonial to them...
Plus i think the equation Arjuna shared with Subhadra would be vastly different from the one he shared with Drau. While Subhadra was more a dutiful wife , Draupadi was more his sahadharmini both in her actions and her thinking capacities given her political acumen and intellect.

All that being said I think Arjuna failed Draupadi in the DS...we can give excuses that he could not go against his brother etc...but as soon as he married Drau it was his duty to protect his wife...agreed Yudhi was her husband too and he did not protect her but that does not excuse the fact that Arjuna failed too...they all failed, Arjuna included!

As for not speaking during the marriage time..i think Arjuna put his family above his own desires...he had the right to do that for himself but did he have the right to do that on behalf of Drau? After all he was married to her by then!! I guess that is a question that we can debate on endlessly!!
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: LiveYourDream

As for not speaking during the marriage time..i think Arjuna put his family above his own desires...he had the right to do that for himself but did he have the right to do that on behalf of Drau? After all he was married to her by then!! I guess that is a question that we can debate on endlessly!!


Exactly!!
Arjun was not wrong...He did his duty as a brother n son...He did wat was best for the unity of the brothers...
But did he do wat was best for Draupadi?
Granted that polyandry did have advantages for Draupadi...but her Vastraharan totally wipes those away...
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Posted: 10 years ago
Amrita I feel that Arjuna was never indifferent to Draupadi .What modern authors forget is Arjuna is beyond a husband or lover ..What makes him the hero is all his qualities ...And regarding Draupadi who says he ignored her?? From consoling her after bringing home Subhadra by disguising her as a normal women to bringing lovely gifts from Amaravati for her ...His love for Shruthsom by giving him his steeds and bow ..It is evident that he was never indifferent to Draupadi .
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Posted: 10 years ago
Perfect solution certainly. For the Pandavas and Kunti, that is. Not for Panchali. If polyandry was socially accepted, why did Yudhi have to come up with so many examples? Why did Vyasa have to talk them into it?
And how would Kunti's word be more important than a girl's life? If it was more important to her son(s), if course that is a mistake on the part of the son who won her. I still think it was a mistake of ignorance. Which he tried to rectify in many different ways later.

As for Draupadi, she was a very strong character who rarely spent time looking backward and thinking what might have been. She was always urging action. So, I doubt she spent any time mooning over what could have been. I think she have thought of him regretfully and then closed the door on that one-on-one relationship in her mind and moved on. She was very busy with the palace affairs, her husbands' personal business, her extended family and even the financial affairs, FGS.

IMO, she would have thought of both of them as being railroaded into something they didnt bargain for, then would have decided to make the best of the situation and moved on.


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Posted: 10 years ago
@Live your dream what exactly do you think Arjuna should have done in the Dyuthsabha???
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Posted: 10 years ago
@RamkiJanaki:Agreed Arjuna marrying Subhadra in that day and age was no big deal.
It was something very normal

And i guess what most people forget is that all pandavas married again after Draupadi.Yudhishtir ,Bhima and i am sure even Nakul and Sahdev would have.

Subhadara is just more importanat as she is Krishna ji's sister and Abhimanyu's mom.Hence her name comes up more prominentley in the epic otherwise all brother's married again after Draupadi

@Bhaavani:Why is Krishna ji at fault for Arjuna and Subhadra's marriage?Arjuna fell for subhadra at the first sight not sure what has been shown in Dharam kshetra but as per epic Arjuna was in love with subhadara at the very first and very readily eloped with her
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: frappie


Amrita I feel that Arjuna was never indifferent to Draupadi .What modern authors forget is Arjuna is beyond a husband or lover ..What makes him the hero is all his qualities ...And regarding Draupadi who says he ignored her?? From consoling her after bringing home Subhadra by disguising her as a normal women to bringing lovely gifts from Amaravati for her ...His love for Shruthsom by giving him his steeds and bow ..It is evident that he was never indifferent to Draupadi .



I think thats wat I said too...This whole 'Arjun never loved Draupadi' is irritating n blown out of proportion by modern authors...Ofcourse he did love n care for her...There are many, many instances in the epic that will blow Ardi haters away... 😉
But I dont like his silence at the sharing...his silence when he left to do Lord Shiva's Tapasya when Draupadi was saying so much to him...his comparatively less aggression when Draupadi's sons died...his indifference when Draupadi fell...
The other brothers did the same but Draupadi had supposedly fallen for him...So, I guess, under normal circumstances we would expect a person to look back n say something in such a situation. I hope it all went like Anuja Chadramouli's Arjun...
Honestly...I feel Arjun is one of the best characters of the epic...He was calm n composed...n USUALLY did not bother to hurt anyone without provocation..please correct me if I am wrong. But there is only one thing for which I have slight disliking...n that is his confusing attitude towards Draupadi...I feel he was indifferent at some crucial times..NOT ALWAYS...but at the same time I refuse to believe that he was heartless n never cared for her that many, many Ardi nDraupadi haters love to propagate.
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Posted: 10 years ago
Hello everyone!
So I just discovered the MM forum today😆. And found the oh so familiar MB discussion and couldn't help joining in for nostalgia's sake!

I follow a couple of Epic channel shows and incidentally this MB courtroom drama isn't one of them. I did watch the first episode and quite liked the actors and the script. But I had issues with the treatment. It hardly looked epic and was reduced to a family feud with just about everyone retaining their idiosyncrasies for eternity I guess. Not that it cannot be this commonplace-after all it was all about land and power. But I guess I would still like to hold on to the belief that it was about something higher and deeper because ...well, maybe I am all for Life of Pi's 'better story'.😊

Anyways, so what made me actually not remain the usual silent reader here was a statement by a fellow poster-Arjun on the other hand was more of an austere warrior he had duties which were beyond family life ..Its never that he ignored Draupadi he was more focussed on improving both spiritually and in the art of warfare.

I couldn't agree more! And this is why I find it so disturbing to see the entire evaluation of Arjun's character narrowing down to his patihood. Whatever little I have read of the epic, for me this seemed an irrelevant point. Not because it is insignificant but because there is just so much more to judge him on. And that is why I was disappointed with this Ecourt going on and on about how he failed Draupadi. That he did,surely. But my (perhaps flawed) perception of ArDi is that they were so intimately connected in an other worldly bond that they were ONE. Thus one could never fail the other without failing oneself. Hence I disregard the duality which leads to-you did this to me or you didn't do this for me. For me it was always like Drau saying-Yes your silence was painful but surely not just for me( I am sure you didn't enjoy the VH). Hell, we are together in this game (with maybe Krishna as the captain😆)! Yes you messed up big time on some occasions, I motivated you on others, your captain did so in the finals and look we are through with it!. There are no apologies or forgiveness needed because we are beyond it!
But EDrau was also right, she felt and said(her govind did most of the talking) exactly what any women would feel. Any women. Thats my issue I guess.
And the least said about EKeshav in the last two episodes the better. Krishna speaking like that to Arjun was just hard on the ears and heart. If SRJ ever spoke like that to SS, the latter would have a breakdown and never recover😆.
I don't know what I was supposed to feel about EArjun but I ended up feeling bad for him. He had this heartrending-Et tu, Brute? look!

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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: Sabhayata

@RamkiJanaki:Agreed Arjuna marrying Subhadra in that day and age was no big deal.
It was something very normal

And i guess what most people forget is that all pandavas married again after Draupadi.Yudhishtir ,Bhima and i am sure even Nakul and Sahdev would have.

Subhadara is just more importanat as she is Krishna ji's sister and Abhimanyu's mom.Hence her name comes up more prominentley in the epic otherwise all brother's married again after Draupadi

@Bhaavani:Why is Krishna ji at fault for Arjuna and Subhadra's marriage?Arjuna fell for subhadra at the first sight not sure what has been shown in Dharam kshetra but as per epic Arjuna was in love with subhadara at the very first and very readily eloped with her


I guess this Arjun-Draupadi-Subhadra angle is given too much importance bcoz SUPPOSEDLY Draupadi loved Arjun the most...That is the only reason.
Besides tragic angles are more appealing...so even authors love to invest time n talent on thst... 😆
Hence this exaggeration...

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