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Posted: 12 years ago
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guys plzz comment on rati's profile regularly!!11 rank..not possible!! :(
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Congrats Ratians on the new AT
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Congratulations for rati di.s new at
Hd is making more sense to me as a struggle of a girl these days then it was before in its hamshakal or various love or 3rd angle tracks...so dekh rahi hun rati di ke liye...feel sad for all the hardcore rishi fans...writers really do play badly with their emotions...thats why its gud to appreciate actors but too get too attached to their characters...wroters can change charactets anyday
I really wish hd had not tried to be a love story, but tried to be true to its original script...this serial could have been an inspiration for many women but now it is a mess
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It really amazes me or rather it looks funny to read how some come up to proclaim certain statistics or state certain facts abt the show or how its taken by the audience. I wonder whts the ground of these? a bunch of members at online sites, networks or forums or derived frm Trp system, which is often misinterpreted by many as to its reasons for raise or fall. Anywys...this had been long run story almost everywhr...rather thn reading it with surprise or humor nothing can be done.


Anywys...am here to write few things abt the show...(my pov...just mine hahha)

> 8 Yrs passed...We had seen Useless Sharma's pre-leap, post leap. None cared abt Indira before nor now. In rare break we did see some worry/mourn/sad thinking abt Indira, But tht was timely without much change in any characters...they change colours so frequently to show tht Indira nor her life really matters to thm in front of Money! Soo now with soo much of drama shown for 7-8 months of BT Track and the post leap...whr is the story going? and wht change did time n situation get amg sharma's? Ahhh Nothing. Yet there isnt any growth nor improvement in any characters. Literally nothing!

> Inder sharma, reached frm Parents stage to grandparents stage...and still a weak character in respect to siding for ladies. This mental state shown post-leap was very very silly! Dementia whn needed and all normal whn needed. But If time and situations made him better...thn whr is any improvement? Still going behind ladies leaving his wife! This is totally Unacceptable! Kiss kisam ke insaan hai yeh! He is dancing and romancing with another lady infront of his wife & children!


> Rishi - 8 yrs passed and yet soo immature and Irresponsible! He never cared to work back thn nor now. He says words of sharing responsibilites regd Indu, but nothing in action. Parents work for child is not just loving and taking care whn fallen ill, Children's parvarish is a wide range term. Which he fails to stand. He was taking care of Indira's mental illness past 6months, shdnt he take care to send Indu to school. he dint care. And now too he knows that fact and is absolutely ok with it thn saying his child to attend school. It was taken soo easy yestday! which was a total surprise & shocking to watch. Koi parvah nahi thi usse iss baat se.


> If Rishi is soo Sincere, honest whtever shdnt he sit down and talk to Indira to tell the entire truth regd Zara, how he went behind her thinking her to be his shreemati ji, how they got "Married" and thn Zara becoming mentally Unstable! He is legally married to Zara right now. 6phere lene se aur Indira ke maang mein sindoor barne se Inshi pati patni nahi hojate. Its been 8-9 long yrs...Rishi was married to Shweta and thn to Zara!!! And also abt his working, couldnt he talk to Indira abt this too?He very well knws that His shreemati ko Jhoot se sakt nafrat hai. But no he decided to fool her once again like he did back then whn Inshi were searching for job! He had been a lazy disinterested person to take up a job to earn money for the family. Its really surprising to see a father of a kid who doesnt care enough to work even after seeing the family condition. As prior to 6months fact isnt clear, ( i wont go by assumptions) i really want to knw if he was khudaar enough not to take money from Shweta for his needs or had been living on others money since Indira wasnt in his life. Whr is any Maturity, responsibility. honesty in him. He is same as he was bck thn...He tried to fool Indira back then and now too, He dint care to work back thn and now too!


> Indira sharma - I dont understand if she is born only to Work to feed her family and to take care of their other necessities whr her Baap, Bhai and Pati are Nikkame and gherzimmedar who would sit arnd and do time pass but dont work for the family. If she continues to take up total responsibility of herself thn they will depend on her lifelong. And if taking this responsibliity on herself is termed as taking uneccesary burden, thn let me remind, i guess Rishi owns the same mentality too whr he wants Indira to take care of her family members as bck then whn Indira was leaving the house, it was Rishi who brought her back and also time and again post leap we had heard Rishi saying his wish tht he wants to his shreemati ji wapas, so tht woh saari bhaag daud sambhale! Whtever it be...Indira still tries her best to do wht all she can do, call it unnecessary burden or whtever, She does it for her family, though cribs abt it, who doesnt? whn u ought to do certain things which u really dont wish to but have to do it all Alone!!! Atleast its better thn ppl who just shrugoff the demand of time and situation to work! But here...I would like to see Indira trying to make her family member earn for themselves like she did during her 30 days time period of BT. Its really High time to make ppl realise their responsibilty and this includes Rishi too. Indira shd talk to him and say abt the seriousness of Working and their responsibilities towards Indu to set her straight.


> Abt Indira's struggles and others ppl's failing in this matter...it depends on how ppl watch and take it. I might be having a partial outlook here...but wht i feel is - its coz of careless, irresponsible ppl in her life...tht..Indira has to struggle harder day in and out for her family. And its not the other way round whr to show her struggle others are being degraded. As looking at the story- all characters are portrayed the same since the start. None really wanted to work to share the responsibilty of house & family. Its really Indira's badkismati that whn she looked for a lifepartner who would love, care abt her and share her responsibilites...she got someone who only loved and cared for her and yes did support and help her out in few matters. ( here again it shd be differentiated Help & Support but not solely done). At tht particular point of time, against her rational thinking tht she feel in love with a nikkamme gherzimmedare insaan, she yet went with her heart, which loved someone who was the only 1 who really loved, understood and cared for her and supported her. I Wish Rishi's character improves as per the age and demands of the life thn just living arnd like he used to before leap.


> I seriously dont want to see Indira struggle hard for her family all over again just like Initial days. Woh akeli kyu pisse where under the Pressure of Responsibilities she wouldn't be able to live life to the fullest like the way she wishes, where coz of other she shd sacrifice her wishes or Happiness. Indira shd make others work too, share responsibilities...atleast Rishi shd. I would like to see better tracks thn these day to day routines of her life to meet her family demands as shown before. I want to see Indira-Indu bonding. Indu shd be set straight and taught many things. Would like to see their scenes which would make Indu better. Some emotional bonding of Inshi, some mature Sensible scenes thn randomly placed teenage romance or comedy. Inshi Working supporting each other and sharing their responsibilites! Some good family moments. Its high time tht Writers shift to some positivity thn show same struggling alone of Indira whr others dont care a damn. Hope characters Improve and reduce Indira's sufferings.


> Here i would also like to mention that am not liking how Shweta and Zara's names are being reffered in the show in comedy scenes. Shweta and Zara shd be given respect and also given credit for wht they hv done good for the Family. Indira shd knw tht Shweta ran the house and took care of Indu for 8 long yrs. And also shd get to knw abt Zara too. I feel very Wierd whn Rishi smilingly takes credit for something which he never did, for example he was happily smiling whn Husna was praising him for taking care of his bin-maa ki daughter for 8yrs. And now abt taking care of the house and family. And 1 more...it was Indu who brought Indira sarhadh paar se, it was Indu who got her to Sharma nivas and also took care of her. So the credit of Indira being back to Life...goes to Indu as well.

am bored of typing now...hahhahha

Edited by Angels_Sweetz - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Nikhi all the points you have written in ur last post are absolutely true...i m writing from mobile so pls forgive anu typos...

For a few minutes let me put aside the actors...i am going to put aside the fact that indira is played by rati (who has an ardent fan following) and rishi is played by sv(who has his own fan following by now) and i am only going to look at a fiction story we have been watching for close to one and a half yrs now.

It started with a 25 yr old girl who was the breadearner and head of the family as the guys in the family were useless. The problem with the girl was that she has sacrificed many yrs of her life just for earning n she was eagerly waiting for her brother to come back n shoulder the reaponsibilities so she could also think about herself. she was not able to see the lighter parts of life due to her responsibilities...then comes rishi who is lighthearted n jovial at the age of 27 , comes from a rich background so has never worked in his life...oppisites attract n they fall in love... from then onwards the story should have neen how they mutually grow together over the yrs and how their personalities get balanced by being with each other...rishi should have taught indira how to be happy even in most difficult circumstances, how to slowly work at changing the mentality of sharma family members, and indira should have taught rishi how to be more responsible and mature with being jovial...hd should have ideally been this jourmey and this was how i saw the story when the serial started.
But due to the poor script this was not to be...i am sure its not only the writers but mainly the TRPs which are to be blamed for the umpteen changes in story line...
After 8 yrs of the story these are the things I do not like about the characters and how they stand today:
Rishi (2nd most important character in HD after indira, this i am admitting it openly)- He was also supposed to be a character who should have seen immense growth in last 8 yrs. But i do not see any growth in him from when he was 27 yrs old bachelor to how he is now as a 36 yr old father and husband. He does have many endearing qualities but for a 36 yr old guy he is utterly useless ( not only taking care of office work but no contribution at home also). I was okay if rishi did not want to work and indira and rishi had mutually decided that rishi was going to run the house and take care of indu's studies etc and indira would earn. this is okay with me.But rishi is doing neither thing. in front of indu, he has been shown as a useless, workless, women chasing, drinking , card playing , loitering father, which is disgusting fora man of 36 yrs living in a family who desparately needs both financial and emotional support. in fact if SV was not playing this character i am not sure how this character would have been tolerated by me for so long. To the extent i think if indira had married a man whowas the exact opposite of rishi , it would have been much better. She needed a guy who was responsible, mature, financially and emotionally sound, with a good work ethic. By now (after 8 yrs), all her financial problems would have been okay and she would have been a more content person by now.
Indira and her family- there are many aspects in which i wanted indira to also grow by now. i can understand why she was always rude, stubborn, making decisions for her family, never finding time to laugh. Her life from age of 18 to 25 was really very tough. She is just like the father figure of the family. But by 8 yrs and different cercmstances i wanted to see her change each and every member of her family from utterly selfish people to normal working folks and in the process see her growth to a well balanced individual who lives, loves and laughs, works, cries, fights for justice but without the standard chappal,thappad etc...by now she should have matured enough as a character to reach a good place in her career along with her family life. Also all the supporting characters have such a good scope of improvement. So their should have been some improvement from their grey characters towards white. in my opinion the people who are the same shade of grey for too long are actually black, as if a person doesnt learn then he his life is stagnant.
and unfortunately we have been witnessing major stagnancy in all the characters since the serial started ...whether it is rishi, indira, sharma family etc ...whatever biggest circumstances happen, nothing is learnt from it , no change happens in them permanently, they keep regressing...
i should not be talking about other serials here but i keep comparing HD with BV...BV started with most of the characters being regressive and see the immense growth curve in each and every character...all of them have developed so well through the years...all the characters made any mistakes, but different cercumstances taught them so much and each character repented and grew and they did not spare their main male lead too...he made so many mistakes but those were not ignored, he was punished for them, he is repenting and he is on his way of becoming a much more mature character now... but this never happens in HD and this is HD's main setback...different tracks come and go but HD story or characters never grow up according to their age or circumstances...
also i do not like that indira is just too light with all these characters, she gives them the fish to eat but is not able to make them learn how to fish (this duty is not hers originally, its her fathers but them he is shown useless). But she should really sit rishi down and tell him that his irresponsible behaviour is not tolerable. he might have been rich once , but he has chosen to marry a middle class girl, so he should shoulder a portion of the financial, household, indu's and other responsibilities. Smilarly with all the others too. Illa could have shown so many things on how to make family members more responsible like division of work within the family etc etc , but nothing is shown in the serial
Edited by kaya123 - 12 years ago
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congrates on new thread
our angel rocks
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Originally posted by: kaya123

Nikhi all the points you have written in ur last post are absolutely true...i m writing from mobile so pls forgive anu typos...

For a few minutes let me put aside the actors...i am going to put aside the fact that indira is played by rati (who has an ardent fan following) and rishi is played by sv(who has his own fan following by now) and i am only going to look at a fiction story we have been watching for close to one and a half yrs now.

It started with a 25 yr old girl who was the breadearner and head of the family as the guys in the family were useless. The problem with the girl was that she has sacrificed many yrs of her life just for earning n she was eagerly waiting for her brother to come back n shoulder the reaponsibilities so she could also think about herself. she was not able to see the lighter parts of life due to her responsibilities...then comes rishi who is lighthearted n jovial at the age of 27 , comes from a rich background so has never worked in his life...oppisites attract n they fall in love... from then onwards the story should have neen how they mutually grow together over the yrs and how their personalities get balanced by being with each other...rishi should have taught indira how to be happy even in most difficult circumstances, how to slowly work at changing the mentality of sharma family members, and indira should have taught rishi how to be more responsible and mature with being jovial...hd should have ideally been this jourmey and this was how i saw the story when the serial started.

But due to the poor script this was not to be...i am sure its not only the writers but mainly the TRPs which are to be blamed for the umpteen changes in story line...



Absolvely Kaya...tht was the story!
Under the Burden of Responsibilities Indira couldn't live her life properly where working day in and out & under soo many tensions & lack of love/care from any family member there wasn't any happiness in her life nor any reason to smile. With Rishi entry in her life, there was a Change...she started smiling & enjoying little moments of life. There was a Phase after Marriage where we saw Indira living life happily Smiling & spending some Good Family moments even while taking care of the whole Family responsibility. Here we saw the sense of Living Life in Indira then just Mechanical spending day after the other to work for the Family necessities. So i will say..there was Improvement in her Character. After a long journey now again life is back to Square 1 where once again whole family responsibility is on her. But still u can see the Difference between Indira back then & now. Initial Indira was always serious but here now Indira is serious only when its needed & coz of situation...but otherwise she is like a Normal family person who is enjoying in every little moments, smiling & living each moment of her life otherwise.
Edited by Angels_Sweetz - 12 years ago
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Oh u edited ur comment Kaya. Now let me read ur long comment then how it was written earlier :P
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Originally posted by: kaya123


After 8 yrs of the story these are the things I do not like about the characters and how they stand today:
Rishi (2nd most important character in HD after indira, this i am admitting it openly)- He was also supposed to be a character who should have seen immense growth in last 8 yrs. But i do not see any growth in him from when he was 27 yrs old bachelor to how he is now as a 36 yr old father and husband. He does have many endearing qualities but for a 36 yr old guy he is utterly useless ( not only taking care of office work but no contribution at home also). I was okay if rishi did not want to work and indira and rishi had mutually decided that rishi was going to run the house and take care of indu's studies etc and indira would earn. this is okay with me.But rishi is doing neither thing. in front of indu, he has been shown as a useless, workless, women chasing, drinking , card playing , loitering father, which is disgusting for a man of 36 yrs living in a family who desparately needs both financial and emotional support. in fact if SV was not playing this character i am not sure how this character would have been tolerated by me for so long. To the extent i think if indira had married a man whowas the exact opposite of rishi , it would have been much better. She needed a guy who was responsible, mature, financially and emotionally sound, with a good work ethic. By now (after 8 yrs), all her financial problems would have been okay and she would have been a more content person by now.
Indira and her family- there are many aspects in which i wanted indira to also grow by now. i can understand why she was always rude, stubborn, making decisions for her family, never finding time to laugh. Her life from age of 18 to 25 was really very tough. She is just like the father figure of the family. But by 8 yrs and different cercmstances i wanted to see her change each and every member of her family from utterly selfish people to normal working folks and in the process see her growth to a well balanced individual who lives, loves and laughs, works, cries, fights for justice but without the standard chappal,thappad etc...by now she should have matured enough as a character to reach a good place in her career along with her family life. Also all the supporting characters have such a good scope of improvement. So their should have been some improvement from their grey characters towards white. in my opinion the people who are the same shade of grey for too long are actually black, as if a person doesnt learn then he his life is stagnant.
and unfortunately we have been witnessing major stagnancy in all the characters since the serial started ...whether it is rishi, indira, sharma family etc ...whatever biggest circumstances happen, nothing is learnt from it , no change happens in them permanently, they keep regressing...
..different tracks come and go but HD story or characters never grow up according to their age or circumstances...
also i do not like that indira is just too light with all these characters, she gives them the fish to eat but is not able to make them learn how to fish (this duty is not hers originally, its her fathers but them he is shown useless). But she should really sit rishi down and tell him that his irresponsible behaviour is not tolerable. he might have been rich once , but he has chosen to marry a middle class girl, so he should shoulder a portion of the financial, household, indu's and other responsibilities. Smilarly with all the others too. Illa could have shown so many things on how to make family members more responsible like division of work within the family etc etc , but nothing is shown in the serial


I had replied to the inital parts of ur post in earlier cmnt. On the others added
@ Bold - exactly wht i told too 😊 The same points i mentioned in my 1st cmnt as well
( just different way of our presentation and words usage)

@ Red - i have wrote abt this in previous cmnt too. Just adding few points.
Had Indira not suffered frm BT and her life's 8yrs had not been wasted coz of it going through various difficult phases, Indira would have been Financially and career wise well off by now. But coz of circumstances she is back to the position as she was back then before 8yrs. And regd her personal self, as i told, there is a difference in Indira we saw thn and seeing now. Now she has completely shed off her Tough exterior self and is strict or rude only whn Indeed for the demand of situation, but otherwise u can see her Living her life, each small to big moment as ppl normally do inspite of the burden of responsibilites tht were/are on her shoulder ever since the show started. As mentioned earlier at a phase aft marriage she was Happily living her life. The only thing which shd be changed abt Indira is her random slapping and Chappal usage! This shd be completely stopped now. Other thn tht...i find a gr8 major change in Indira regd way of Living!
Edited by Angels_Sweetz - 12 years ago
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C u after the episode Kaya
we both are on the same points regd HD story in general and its characters.
and yes...wht all points i wrote or gave my pov is also keeping aside tht i watch HD only coz of Rati di and the character she plays.

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