Indu and Indira - Page 4

but why one has to suffer? real indira will unite with rishi and real zara is a stranger to rishi yes mk ruined her so she has to suffer but i want her to be strong as indira she should serve as real zara the cop real zara reason of pain is only mk

rati is a great actress her acting is amazing she deserve so much appreciation but she is not getting it...

Originally posted by: -Sachin-

Walden I agree with you but i think getting back on boys with sling shots is justified as an instant reaction of a child. Dont expect too much from a 8 year old kid. I think that is what the director wanted to show a realistic situation not a theoretical situation. After all we all are humans and reacts as per situation.
Note: I'm not promoting violence but just trying to seeing things in a more realistic way.
I found the entire scene was spoiled by those kids when they ran away with a smiling face. thats a direction mistake which killed the entire emotions of the scene.

No person in HD has ever behaved normally or ideally as far as I know. I do not expect much from an 8 year old, even though Indu is being shown grown up in literally all aspects of life. For a child of her age violence can be the easiest and the most effective way of dealing with things, even though it is not the preferred or accepted one of course. We all are aware of this experience from our own childhood, when rather small and easily avoidable disputes or provocation led to sudden verbal and physical violence (impulsive behaviour). Young children do not think about things in the same way that older children and adults do. They do not think about the consequences of their behaviours and cannot perceive the social expectations. Similarly, Indu did not think once about the consequences of her slingshot attack and how dangerous it could have been to the boys, nor did the boys while hitting Lahorewali with the ball. This kind of violent behaviour is definitely not courageous or admirable in my opinion, but at least it was understandable since so far slingshot has acted as Indu's most powerful deterrent. Sadly this time she did not find any way around except using it.

Originally posted by: indianfighter

No person in HD has ever behaved normally or ideally as far as I know. I do not expect much from an 8 year old, even though Indu is being shown grown up in literally all aspects of life. For a child of her age violence can be the easiest and the most effective way of dealing with things, even though it is not the preferred or accepted one of course. We all are aware of this experience from our own childhood, when rather small and easily avoidable disputes or provocation led to sudden verbal and physical violence (impulsive behaviour). Young children do not think about things in the same way that older children and adults do. They do not think about the consequences of their behaviours and cannot perceive the social expectations. Similarly, Indu did not think once about the consequences of her slingshot attack and how dangerous it could have been to the boys, nor did the boys while hitting Lahorewali with the ball. This kind of violent behaviour is definitely not courageous or admirable in my opinion, but at least it was understandable since so far slingshot has acted as Indu's most powerful deterrent. Sadly this time she did not find any way around except using it.

I agree with you that Indu's character is far from being realistic. This applies to most if not all characters of HD though. Sachin has already pointed out the weird smiling faces of the boys when they were running away from the scene. If we stay eagle-eyed we can find similar kind of blunders (or call it whatever you want) in almost every episode. There is no doubt that HD and reality should be kept apart for the best viewing experience and most enjoyment.

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Originally posted by: Walden

@bold: I completely agree. All I ask is that people apply this to ALL the characters in HD. People seem to easily forget this adage when they are constantly criticizing particular characters of HD in the name of reason and morality and at the same time are willing to ignore other characters ridiculous behavior because this is afterall a fictional show with absurdity all around. Consistency is all I'm asking for!

Regarding violence and HD, I can't concur. While I agree that violence is a part of our lives and will be mirrored onscreen, it is the fact that HD tries to glorify violence and show it as a marker for strength in the name of Hitlergiri that bothers me. I could understand if Indu had used violence in this one incidence in the heat of the moment. But thats not the case. She has been carrying around that sling shot since day 1 and using it intentionally (now what kid in this day and age uses a slingshot is beyond me). She is a violent child by nature who uses violence routinely to get her point across and the writers try to project this as her strength. Maybe its just me but I don't like people who use violence to get things done (even if their motives are worthy). I think when the real Indira is revealed, both Indira and Indu need some anger management counseling:)

I had made this topic regarding Indira and Indu but *sigh* again old blame game of who is more responsible for forum condition started which was not at all needed..I can understand some people disagree about indu hitting boys with the sling shot and I am not going to argue about it. You have full right to disagree with me. But making all topics a war ground and accusing a particular fanbase for not maintaining different POVs isn't fair. What was the purpose to bring Rishi and forum condition in this topic? Both fan groups are equally responsible here. It's not that RPians are ONLY responsible while SVians are completely sane and vice versa. Every action has equal and opposite reaction as per Newton's law. Bringing that issue again and again in almost every thread leads to no conclusion. It only leads to deviation of topic.

And yes it's not that Ratians only love to praise their favs ignoring their flaws. No we do discuss flaws about our own favs. If you read AT's then one can witness how the constructive criticism about all characters goes on. But the points accusing Rati fans have been put forward in the topic and the thread is deviated. Will this lead to any conclusion?

I have made a frustation thread for HD forum( as every forum has one) where you can vent out your frustation on any character/tracks and writers. I will ask Sano to make it sticky.
Hitler Didi Bloopers/Frustation Thread

Thanks.

Walden - what we have done for peace ...before asking this to us .ask the question to urself . From the first day on forum ...u are after indira or ratians . Do u feel that will decrease the heat between the two groups , then I am sorry because its gonna increase only with ur comments attacking ratians in every next post . regarding what we have done ...i myself have been upset about it and have made dozons of posts . I can bring u the links here . Mahesh bro from this ratians group has started several activities in forum for the sake of unity but sadly he ended with it because there was no appreciable response from the other side . and I want to ask u , what do u aspect from us , than sumit fans should be allowed to say all the rubbish for rati and rati fans should open their arms and say we love u . Even we are humans . I have seen u entering so many topics of angel and taking the discussions to this direction but have just seen u just appreciating sumit for all the things in the world . Are u not biased . Blind love of not just sumit but sumitians . and let me tell u taali ek haath se nahi bajti . But we can't do anything if u always give a blind to ratians . And regarding. Violence , dear violence is a part of life . We have seen it . And they are not hitting people with bullets . They are doing that to the persons who are testing their patience . And the show title is hitler didi ...it is normal that rati has always have played a no nonsense type of girl . but how it justifies an extra mariatal affair? Till I know extra marital affair is cheating on ur wife and that is not normal . Chalo in rishi case , we say usne kabhi shweta ko biwi nahi maana . but my problem is why he loved zara calling her shrematiji . Why dint just moved on with her . 8 years are more than enough to show his pain . If zara is zara only and he knows that why is he caling her shremati ji . Telling her that she is ihis indira .