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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: joie de vivre

I'm in concurrence with whoever said that the "main" characters doesnt only incluse the trio. Snape, Lupin, Tonks,Draco Malfoy,Moody,the Weasleys can also be clubbed under the "MAIN" character list

And for all we know,someone who appeares in the 7th book,and who wasnt there in the previous books can die too,someone whom the readers arent too attached to.My hunch is that Snape and Malfoy(Draco) would die,while trying to help Harry.The fact that Dumbledore felt pity for Malfoy,and didnt quite turn him in when he knew all along that it is Malfoy trying to kill him points that MAYBE,Malfoy has some redemptive qualities which we might get to read in The Deathly Hallows

On the Richard&Judy show,Judy tells Jo that she wants to see Harry and Ginny, and , Ron and Hermione married,and I too wish for the same.Though the series is not potentially a "children's" series and caters to all age groups,I still wish for the fairy tale ending

PS..I think Rupe is a fine actor,and infact I rate him and Emma higher than Dan as actors.And not to forget,Ron is my favourite character,followed by Hagrid,Dumbledore,the twins Fred and George and only then Harry and Hermione,and to say Rupert does enough justice to Ron says something.Ron is highly underrated,he's always sidelined to play second fiddle to Harry and is always in Harry's shadow,but there's more to Ron than meets the eye.He's undoubtedly brave(he accompanies Harry on all his escapades), is one of Harry's pillar of support and unconditionally supports Harry.Only because he isnt as famous as Harry,I dont think he's any less important.Its to be noted that Snape opines that Harry has till now got out of tight spots by a combination of luck,grit and help from "more talented friends".I bet he was referring to Hermione and Ron when he was talking about "friends"(in plural).

Completely second your thoughts, especially about the bits highlighted in blue.

Up until now , we have seen that Hermionie being a great help to Harry and her being a know it all, so to say among the three of them… and well Harry has been shown to be brave, but I do agree with Joie de vivre here that Ron has also been a strongest support for Harry and has supported him unconditionally.

If one would recollect, the fella was brilliant at the wizard chess, which helped Harry get past to Prof Squirrel and Voldy and get the philospher's stone. In a similar way, I believe the seventh book might bring forth more abt Ron and his strengths. Ron's behavior so far ( 6 books) leads me to believe , the fella is a talented and brave boy with an overdose of self doubt that nags him, that leaves me 2 steps behind his friends Harry and Hermionie.

As for Malfoy, yes I do agree , that Dumbledore only pitied him and didn't turn him in, but again , whether Malfoy will be redeemed will be a question since , Malfoy did succumb to the threats of the evil Master Voldy! And may be Malfoy will be a price Lucius will pay for him being a death eater himself! Never know!

Snape, well I have my own theory regarding his character and will be posting separately , but there has been a slow and a steady train of redemption to this character through the books, despite making one want to believe he is evil. It almost has come to a point where one does not want to believe he is evil despite him killing Dumbledore!

As for the pairing of the characters, I would stick to the portrayal in the books , even if a certain deviation is being considered in the movies. Read abt this in an article , will edit this post with the link.

Nice points joie de vivre, you've certainly got me thinking on those aspects!

Originally posted by: alia


there was an interview JKR had given long back... if i might be right she had given it after the 4th book came out... she had said she wud be killing of one of harry's best frnd... and not a while back she even let out she wud be killing of two main characters...

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okiee while writing this... side by side i was reading this post...
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/harry-potter/319391/omg-you-have-to-read-this

"The final chapter is hidden away, although it's now changed very slightly. One character got a reprieve. But I have to say two die that I didn't intend to die," she said. "A price has to be paid. We are dealing with pure evil here. They don't target extras do they? They go for the main characters. Well, I do."

Agree with you too Alia , second your thoughts completely, although the quote you've quoted in your reply , an excerpt from JK's interview has got me thinking…

I did in one of earlier posts mention that HP –DH is not about jus Harry killing Voldermort , but its more of killing the evil, that would only manifest itself in more than one… Voldy is an evil manifestation in all its glory…. And while fighting evil, a price has to be paid and often with ones own lives…. In the seventh book, I believe there are going to be more deaths… of several characters which would include two charaters, which the readers have been made to believe are the main characters or which have been described in detail.

Death of Dumbledore in the 6th book only reinforces this thought that its not jus about killing Voldermort , but fighting evil which more than jus killing voldy. The price one has to pay fighting evil has been reinforced more strongly with the death of Dumbledore, following Sirius' death in the fifth book!

Prof Snape has been time and again shown as someone who at great risk, turned against Voldy and joined the Order , well, may in the seventh Snape will come forth into the open and pay a price for turning against Voldy ( as we know Voldy never spares those who betray him) and also , a price for fighting evil, as in he fights Voldermort ( a manifestation of evil).

As for Ron being killed, its quite possible for he is the biggest support Harry has , proven time and again! Evil, always renders it opponent, a hapless, and incapable of a fight before it destroys it completely, emotionally , physically. Rendering one emotionally weak is Evil's biggest victory, for no man , emotionally strong can put up a fight physically and for this sole purpose , Evil may , in the form of Voldermort, render Harry a lost ranger with his Ron not by his side, and challenge him to a fight, only to believe that he , voldermort has sapped the last bit of strength (emotional) from Harry rendering him hapless and incapable of a fight, emotionally!

My 2 cents, sorry seemed to have rambled on….BTW , nice topic… couldn't resist chipping in, or should I say, rambling on! 😉

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Posted: 18 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: Preity

fact: we know according to jkr that 2 of the major charcaters in the book will die.

my guess is that ron might die and here's why:

after hearing that two of the major characters will die i cant help but notice that many ppl are assuming that the major charctares are harry ron and hermione. this is true but there is also another main character!

VOLDERMORT!! cmon ppl! harry potter cant end with harry dying! the good guy always wins at the end! so voldy HAS to die! otherwise that will make albus's supposed death seem like a waste! and we know that harry cant die accorduing to our lit experts!

and i also think that the second character that will die will be ron becuase we know that he isnt all that talented and it will be more of an impact on the story of one of harrys bf dies. it will give harry an even more purpose to kill voldy and whats more is that that will give HARRY AND HERMIONE A CHANCE TO GET TOGETHER!!!!! YAY!!!!👏

as u can c i am an avid h/hr fan and i absolutley despise GINNY🤢 (no offense to any fans) but i think that the girl who plays ginny in the movie is hideous and that hr has been there for harry more often than not and i think that even though jkr is telling us that their relationship is a non platonic one, i still think that there is some more to them than meets the eye.😉 and i absolutley love emma watson and think that she and dan r the cutest couple😳 and no offense but rupert needs to get a haircut and add some more muscle to his body cuz he aint that appealin ppl!!😕

plz reply!

btw, do u know if they will change that girl who plays ginny by any chance?😛

I agree. Harry-Hermoine are the cutest couple and they are really suit together especially since Dan and Emma are so cute!😳 I think the girl who plays ginny is perfect for the role through cause she suits it.😊

Even i think Ron would die as Hermoine deing is not very likey however Harry and Voldemort may also die, especially since JK Rowling has been hinting on Harry to die since Book 6 realsed!😭

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Posted: 18 years ago
#33

Originally posted by: joie de vivre

I'm in concurrence with whoever said that the "main" characters doesnt only incluse the trio. Snape, Lupin, Tonks,Draco Malfoy,Moody,the Weasleys can also be clubbed under the "MAIN" character list

And for all we know,someone who appeares in the 7th book,and who wasnt there in the previous books can die too,someone whom the readers arent too attached to.My hunch is that Snape and Malfoy(Draco) would die,while trying to help Harry.The fact that Dumbledore felt pity for Malfoy,and didnt quite turn him in when he knew all along that it is Malfoy trying to kill him points that MAYBE,Malfoy has some redemptive qualities 😉 which we might get to read in The Deathly Hallows

On the Richard&Judy show,Judy tells Jo that she wants to see Harry and Ginny, and , Ron and Hermione married,and I too wish for the same.Though the series is not potentially a "children's" series and caters to all age groups,I still wish for the fairy tale ending 😳

PS..I think Rupe is a fine actor,and infact I rate him and Emma higher than Dan as actors.And not to forget,Ron is my favourite character,followed by Hagrid,Dumbledore,the twins Fred and George and only then Harry and Hermione,and to say Rupert does enough justice to Ron says something.Ron is highly underrated,he's always sidelined to play second fiddle to Harry and is always in Harry's shadow,but there's more to Ron than meets the eye.He's undoubtedly brave(he accompanies Harry on all his escapades), is one of Harry's pillar of support and unconditionally supports Harry.Only because he isnt as famous as Harry,I dont think he's any less important.Its to be noted that Snape opines that Harry has till now got out of tight spots by a combination of luck,grit and help from "more talented friends".I bet he was referring to Hermione and Ron when he was talking about "friends"(in plural).



Agree with you mostly...

But Harry is the main of the main characters...in a way that we are seeing things from his eyes...we know his thoughts...we get to see his POV...and we follow Harry wherever he goes.....
In a way...he takes up most of the page space....
The books not only focus on the fight b/w good vs. evil...but I feel they're Harry's journey in a way...his highs n lows...his life...his journey....of which the most perilous part begins with the Horcrux Hunt.

You can say it's always been Harry vs. Voldemort...but mostly we never get to see what Voldemort is doing...we never see his thoughts...same goes for Dumbledore...although he is a main character, we never get to see his thoughts except those he chooses to divulge to Harry.

Plus, both of them don't have much page space...Voldemort, DD or Snape..they come up in parts along the books...

But Harry's always consumes the most page space...n why not...the books are called "Harry Potter"😆

But after Harry...the ppl who consume the most page space are Ron and Hermione...n so after Harry they're important.

So...I would say tht readers would be more devastated if any three of the Trio are killed off
I don't think it's gonna be Ron though....since everyone seems to want to kill him off...JKR might decide not to kill him(one character got a reprieve---Jo) n kill somebody else off from the Trio...namely: Hermione as most ppl think she's too smart for death n are not expecting it
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Posted: 18 years ago
#34
i think any one of the trio dying would make for a very sad and depressing book.. i'm not that attached to anyone else.. just the trio has to live

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Edited by nachindi_chesey - 18 years ago
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Posted: 18 years ago
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but dint rowling already sed dat harry wil have to die
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Posted: 18 years ago
#36

Originally posted by: tukz_REmix

but dint rowling already sed dat harry wil have to die



WHAT!?!?!?! when did she say that??!!?!? how could she say that?!

wow i'm so emotionally invested in this book.. eh but arent we all 😊

i hope he doesnt die... 😕

=D

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: prajakta567

reading the topic of tis post makes me feel amazingly.............sad...... 😭 😭

plz......JKR don kill Won-Won(m reading 6th finally)......i juzzzzzz loveeeeeeee him to the max!!!!!i love u Ronald Weasley n also Rupert Grint 😳

btw Pteity Welcome to HP forum.... 😃

😆😆 Definately not won-won. From start of book1 he has been best friend & best character to read. Harry , Ron & Hermoine do spice up HP Books and with DD gone I will stop reading HP if she take away any of above 3 character. Already I can't digest that Dumbeldore is gone.

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: soumen.das

I think it will be hemione who will die

No not Hermoine... After Dumbeldore she is next brainy one

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: nachindi_chesey



WHAT!?!?!?! when did she say that??!!?!? how could she say that?!

wow i'm so emotionally invested in this book.. eh but arent we all 😊

i hope he doesnt die... 😕

=D

Actually I remeber in one of her interview she said that she is going to write only 7books and only way to stop further edition is to kill person who make this series. But last book gave me impression that she may not actually kill Harry if she want to go beyond book7 and I wish she write more books

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: daisyUSA

Actually I remeber in one of her interview she said that she is going to write only 7books and only way to stop further edition is to kill person who make this series. But last book gave me impression that she may not actually kill Harry if she want to go beyond book7 and I wish she write more books



well, i think she's made it clear that she wont continue harry after the 7th book, but it doesnt necessarily mean she has to kill him... does it?

=D

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