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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: scarletthara

Aaj to special treat hai... we are discussing them all together... so many variations and facets of each character - Gulaal and Kesar, though mostly in essence the same... love and miss the old camaraderie...


Kesar is showing his vulnerable side to Gulaal for the first time, since he is back after his decade long punishment to his Gulaal... although it was not intentional... but, he was so chicken scared at the thought of being caught by his nemesis in such a weak moment.. he does not want her to realise that it is the same Kesar, she knows ... Totally...and she KNOWS as you said...she KNOWS that his issue is also that he doesn't want her to see him vulnerable, to see him being himself...but she is still disturbed cuz she doesn't know WHY.

He has tried to build his super macho image, of I am a man now ... This whole softy side, his emotions expressing themselves just by looking a a bunch of his old life, when he was happy and free from all doubts/ griefs... the days when he had his comfort around him, to hold him, to tell him that there was nothing to worry about... he didnt have her with him for 10 years, and it was his punishment as much as hers... he so knows that it would hurt her to be cut off from him, while he on the other hand suffers too...missing his Gulaal.. his life's biggest pillar of support in every situation... she held him, and comforted him when his life shattered with his bhai, Vasant, who was everything to him, is lost forever... Gulaal was the one taking care of this boy, taking care of his fears then...

Yet, his biggest grief came with the truth of Dushyant being his brother's killer and Gulaal being a co-conspirator (or not)... his life took the biggest fall, and there was noone he could turn to now... he learnt to be brave and mature for the world... as he lost his trust in the one person, who embodied love and trust for him... Very well said👏👏

I guess he carried on with this facade for so long that he feels most safe in it... and not in being his normal loving, trusting self, on a decade ago... he feels afraid of being himself in front of his very own Gulaal... what a situation he is caught in?? The one person he trusts most in life still, yet she is the cause of all his distrust in life...I know haina? What a situation he's caught in...he can't be himself...he's afraid and wary of being himself in front of his own Gulaal...the one person he trusted more than anyone in the world...and interestingly it is that distrust, that disillusionment in her to an extent which toughened him up, made him grow into the man he is.



On another note, Gulaal was such a sensible, intelligent woman, usko iss Talli se irritation nahi hota tha... I mean it looked most of the time like Talli was her eyes' apples, but why??? I know that she is Sudha's molly-coddled, brainless adopted daughter... and hence is loved as a family member almost... still... there would be a limit to which any sensible person can be sooo in lowe with such a dimwit????? LOL...Talli irritates all of us but jokes apart, Gulaal basically is one of those kind of ppl who loves to take in wounded beings and nurture them...she felt an instant sort of bond with Talli when she found out that Talli lost her mother at a young age and later on her father as well...Gulaal has a MEGA protective streak as we know and that went into overdrive from that point on and continued on till this day...she pampers Talli cuz she constantly feels bad for this "bin maa baap ki bacchi"

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Posted: 13 years ago
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What amazes me is the fact that despite facing such bitter and hard truths in life at such an impressionable age... Kesar essentially remained the same loving, caring boy he was in essence... there could have been a good likelihood of him turning bitter and really cold... but it didnt...

I think JZee mentioned in some post that Gulaal saw this golden heart in this naughty brat, and hence their bonding started... I think it was this, as well as the fact that these two were such loving caring souls, who would go all out for that one unique person in their life... in a random bit, it reminds me of what Dumbledore told Harry that he was unique coz of his ability to love and trust people... and this is the same for Kesar here... he had all the reason in the world to go to the dark side, yet he chooses to remain this immensely loving guy... who goes on to be this mad, passionate lover... going to his limit to follow his hearts diktats... despite a decade of distrust and anger... his love and trust for Gulaal remains earthed deep inside him... which surfaces on these rare moments in the early post-leap days...

He has his issues with anger, stubbornness, and stuff, but he would never even think of hurting Dushyant on the sly... coz it was just not him... he wanted justice meted out, and not out n out revenge... warna to kitne cliche tareeke the dushmani nikalne ke liye...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: nureat01

[ but, he was so chicken scared at the thought of being caught by his nemesis in such a weak moment.. he does not want her to realise that it is the same Kesar, she knows ... Totally...and she KNOWS as you said...she KNOWS that his issue is also that he doesn't want her to see him vulnerable, to see him being himself...but she is still disturbed cuz she doesn't know WHY... and both of them find it so in the stride to put aside the imli instance - as an acceptable exception to the ongoing battle - which is testimony supreme of same ol' Kesar, same ol'! Kesar ji is one piece on the planet of mortals - first he is iron clad resolved to prove he's not the same. Then it hits him in the gut to be told he is not the same. Then he takes time out on war, proves he is the same. Then he is caught being the same in a moment, which is more than what he bargained for, in the time out. So he focuses on re-gathering all the wrath... to repeat drill ?! 😳 *shakes head* And then we're all complaining about Talli being a dimwit 😆 Kare bhi kya wo, aise logo ki company ke asar mein 😆



and that was quick jump out of turn ... *sheepish* - yes, I'm still working!
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Posted: 13 years ago
#14

Originally posted by: JZephyr

and both of them find it so in the stride to put aside the imli instance - as an acceptable exception to the ongoing battle - which is testimony supreme of same ol' Kesar, same ol'! Kesar ji is one piece on the planet of mortals - first he is iron clad resolved to prove he's not the same. Then it hits him in the gut to be told he is not the same. Then he takes time out on war, proves he is the same. Then he is caught being the same in a moment, which is more than what he bargained for, in the time out. So he focuses on re-gathering all the wrath... to repeat drill ?! 😳 *shakes head* And then we're all complaining about Talli being a dimwit 😆 Kare bhi kya wo, aise logo ki company ke asar mein 😆



LMAO!🤣🤣🤣 Baat toh sahi hai...ab aise logon ki company mein rahegi toh kahaan se uska tiny dimaag chalega?🤣

I loved your description of the "time out" hahaha so true! That was indeed a little time out and there was an acceptance and understanding on both their parts...so they smiled and felt content in the timeout and then went back to the usual mode...😆


@Minks: Indeed it's remarkable that underneath it all he remained the same loving, caring guy...I think on some level I'd say Kesar is too STUBBORN a person to really change...some bitterness over time may have hardened him in some ways but essentially he remained the same guy...he had all these variety of traits in him since childhood only. If I wanted to go on a whimsical tangent I'd say it's also cuz those are the basic traits that Gulaal knew him and bonded with him over too.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Lovely caps and remarks Nur🤗
JZee🤗..i always like the way u come up with writing the scenes so well...

So, from the three scene...i never watched the other two except the photo album scene...thanks to you guys because of which i was able to see it atleast now...

Photo Album scene😳...ohh me like kesar here very much...he is so cute with that white patti around his head and that too after shower...i always liked him when ever he is with his patti...i hope it is an accessory so that he could wore it always😉...ohh what can i say abt this scene...its speaks a lot without any words...they dont have any words to say..but still both kesar n gulaal interact very well in that scene...loved the FBs...if i can say all the FBs are some what related to gulaal..whether we talk abt vassy fb, krishna dance fb or marriage fb...all of them have gulaal in some way or the other...thank god that talli was not in the FB😆...hothi toh hamaara kya hojaatha😕...

JK waala scene was too good...JK madam toh kabhi bhi never ever loose a chance to do a taunt on gulaal...just loved the way she utters that one-liners...she a very different vamp all together...

Gulaal FB part too good...never saw that scene of FB before...so cute...n as nur said gulaal expressions were too good in that scene...had to catch it now in YT...tthe way she clutched kesu clothes as Jzee said as if she dont him to be away from her...n then the sadness of the reality of today...

Kesar Fb part...arey yeh bachcha bhi na...jab bhi dekho wahi fb ko dhektha hi rehtha...woh bore nahi hota hai kya...n the word mein yaha khel ne nahi aaya hoon...toh uss idiot dabloo talli ke saath apne kamre mein kya kar raha hai😆

Then comes the kesar rooms scene...me liked it very much...ohh his voice while reading the letter...his expressions with anger and at the same time tears in his eyes...NB is so good in that scene...arey iss talli koh koi manners hai ya nahi...arey kisi ki room mein jaane se pehle knot at the room...woh nahi toh bhi chalega..magar kisi ki letter ko aisa koi dekhta hai kya😡...mein hoti koh ek thappad toh zaroor padthi😆...magar kesar ne toh bas aisa kuch kiya hi nahi😲...loved the way he apologized n shifted her attention to her hand made loddos😆...bhichaara namak wala laddo pehli baar talli ke haatho se kaake kya hogaya hoga uski haal😉...n comes the gulaal...what a scene...not even a minute scene but loved the charged atmosphere...n lobed loved the way he looks at her after she left the place😳...


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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: MR21

Lovely caps and remarks Nur🤗

JZee🤗..i always like the way u come up with writing the scenes so well...

So, from the three scene...i never watched the other two except the photo album scene...thanks to you guys because of which i was able to see it atleast now...

Photo Album scene😳...ohh me like kesar here very much...he is so cute with that white patti around his head and that too after shower...i always liked him when ever he is with his patti...i hope it is an accessory so that he could wore it always😉...

^^ OMG I thought I was the only freak who liked that !!! He looks adorable with head patti ☺️ - *hi-five* 😆

ohh what can i say abt this scene...its speaks a lot without any words...they dont have any words to say..but still both kesar n gulaal interact very well in that scene...loved the FBs...if i can say all the FBs are some what related to gulaal..whether we talk abt vassy fb, krishna dance fb or marriage fb...all of them have gulaal in some way or the other...thank god that talli was not in the FB😆...hothi toh hamaara kya hojaatha😕... <--- I know man! FBs seem like the only place we can have GK to ourselves without her barging in - but that's what! Ek dusre ke memory movies mein to they want to be exclusive ☺️

Kesar Fb part...arey yeh bachcha bhi na...jab bhi dekho wahi fb ko dhektha hi rehtha...woh bore nahi hota hai kya...n the word mein yaha khel ne nahi aaya hoon...toh uss idiot dabloo talli ke saath apne kamre mein kya kar raha hai😆


^^ 🤣 MR, that is a genius cross question! Talli hi kyun! 😲 And honestly, Gullu's obsession with Talli, and Kesar's obsession with Duggu is unconditional 😆 If we didn't know better about their undying lubb for each other, even in version of hate - there would be much reason to worry about where the 'G-K' lowe story was headed 😲


Then comes the kesar rooms scene...me liked it very much...ohh his voice while reading the letter...his expressions with anger and at the same time tears in his eyes...NB is so good in that scene...arey iss talli koh koi manners hai ya nahi...arey kisi ki room mein jaane se pehle knot at the room...

This time at least he was 'dressed'. The one dark moment for all GK phankaas - our eternal scar - is the time she walks in on Kesar shirtless 😲 Like jisko karna chiye walk in at such points - wo to karti nahi 😒 All Gullu does is keep fixing buttons on Kesu's shirts, and Talli gets to have the 'chance-pe-dance' 🥱

woh nahi toh bhi chalega..magar kisi ki letter ko aisa koi dekhta hai kya😡...mein hoti koh ek thappad toh zaroor padthi😆...magar kesar ne toh bas aisa kuch kiya hi nahi😲...loved the way he apologized n shifted her attention to her hand made loddos😆...bhichaara namak wala laddo pehli baar talli ke haatho se kaake kya hogaya hoga uski haal😉...n comes the gulaal...what a scene...not even a minute scene but loved the charged atmosphere...n lobed loved the way he looks at her after she left the place😳...


Oh I love the way he's all huffed up, and breathes down one, then just holds back all breath... the stillness about him at the sight of him - its like a hynotism descends upon him - oh sigh... 😍 - and jhalli Talli tells him to eat ladoos *yawn* God she's unbelievably slow 🥱


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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: nureat01

And so begins the trip down memory lane...I loved the music they used in this bit...makes it all the more poignant...you feel like you're on that journey WITH Kesar as he moves through each set of pictures

Batch 1:
Wonderful caps ! how well you say that we are also going down memory lane with Kesar
The album per se was also a masterpiece, I say ! each photo in the album must have been "clicked" carefully ,shows how much care CV's have taken to put photos that are so apt - the mota bha -Paan baa is so perfect- they look younger, are "made up" for their photo as in earlier days or its a special occassion..and the adjacent photo also looks so natural of aposing group ...and on "Gulaal page" , the first of her three photos has such a typical pose , I have seen my grannie, aunt etc ka photos almost in that pose !





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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: nureat01

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Batch 2:

And then he reaches HER page !

...and on "Gulaal page" , the first of her three photos has such a typical pose , I have seen my grannie, aunt etc ka photos almost in that pose !



...the memories included everyone but everything changes when it's just about THEM..
..how beautifully you say that ."when its just about THEM"...😍..
and I just loved these caps in a pair , one showing her face in focus and the other showing his...
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😍 ..and just look at the way he is looking at her ..😍



...a totally unguarded moment where his emotions are unchecked...he's still swimming in the past somewhere... ..@ bold and that's so well said ! he was still "swimming in the past" and had no time to camouflage his expression and quote them with the disdain he normally liked to show her these days...


And then SNAP the album is closed ....you bet !! 🤣





And as she leaves, it really does feel like he was holding his breath the entire time...he's watching her leave almost in a trance/daze too



And the final touch with him looking down and opening the album again...interesting that he didn't snap it fully shut...he left his thumb in place to hold the spot with Gulaal's pictures😆
..True ! He was really clinging on to them (Gulaal's photos) even in his "trance" as you rightly call it ! 😊


..thoroughly enjoyed the album AND your remarks !
VJ
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Jzee , what a beautiful post and what a merry bunch of scenes to treasure ...am still reading , but had to come in to rave how beautifully you have put it when you say he reads the letters to
"sometimes to find answers which he never gets, and sometimes to remind himself what the question really was! "
👏👏 just sums up the whole scenario of letters occurring /reoccuring , for once and for all ...beautiful !
He really clung on to those letters for so long like they were his life , giving him the only way to find any meaning in his life full of anguish and confusion ... and that reminds me how Gulaal was desperate to gather them back when she read them and they flew off in the wind ...as if she too had the definite inkling that somewhere Kesar's existence was all wrapped up in those letters and she mustnt let him fall apart by letting the letters fly ...
VJ

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