Alter Ego, Altered Equations...? - Page 2

Awesome post JZ!👏

I love how you have interpreted that bike scene... and unlike the earlier 'illegal smiles' as you put it...for one brief moment he is truly excited and happy to see his gift...and that's what brought a smile to Gulaal as well...of course it was Motabha's gift, but it was her who made sure it arrives for him to see..

@the question of had Talli really become his wife...
When the Kesar-Talli was to happen, had Kesar not revealed his real intentions to her..we probably would have seen a different reaction from her when Kesar was taking the pheras..cos it would have been the final moment after she no longer would be able to exercise her haq on him as freely...at least she would assume that..since acc to her Kesar would now be a part of Talli's life...it would make her sad for sure...but I doubt she would have acknowledged it...

Lovely caps Nur! My favorites from these bunch of scenes 😳 =>

Originally posted by: JZephyr

And okay, I give Talli 1 point for taareef karing Gullu's food - she really is like a little loyal puppy, and this is in a complimenting sense. Even in the future times when her dilemma in dealing with the GK truth is so high and overpowering, she really cannot but withdraw to herself, she has those impulses of testing and trying Kesar - but a second of hurting Gulaal, and she backs off to the opposite end! Technically, her decision to marry again at the mandir after her dialog with Chunni is more for Gulaal, than Kesar - even though it inadvertently becomes a synonymous idea. She's not a bad person - she's just too freaking a dimwit in these opening episodes post leap... Exactly...that is my main annoyance with her in these opening epis post leap...they showed her as too much of a dimwit...she's not a bad kid otherwise...and you can see her constant concern and affection for Gulaal...but in other ways, thanks in no part to Galool madam herself, Talli's meagre brain totally stops functioning...and she has no idea what kind of a pawn she's being used as by two master players😆


Interestingly both Kesar and Gulaal in their unreasonable ignore and cold treat the other phases have used the convenience of Talli as the middle man. Kesar uses Talli as a bait to try Gulaal's tolerance; Gulaal uses Talli as a shield between her ostrich vision and the real world. Bingo! Talli has always been a pawn...a bait for Gulaal from Kesar's end and a shield from Gulaal's side...back and forth, so many times GK have used Talli in various ways...it's unfair to her, true...but sadly she never had enough of a brain to even recognize what they were both doing😆...she is the middle man, as you say...constantly bouncing back and forth b/w the two...almost like a ping pong ball...one second all giggly/blushing towards Kesar and the other second upset that her Gulaal has been hurt😆...Kabhi "Kesar tu bahut bura hai" aur kabhi "Kesar kha naa"😆

Originally posted by: nureat01

And this line is Talli's punchline and that is exactly what Neil used, to make fun of Hally when Kesar was asked to imitate Talli. "Kesar, tu bahut bura hai, tu sadu hai"

Originally posted by: Maz.

@the question of had Talli really become his wife...
When the Kesar-Talli was to happen, had Kesar not revealed his real intentions to her..we probably would have seen a different reaction from her when Kesar was taking the pheras..cos it would have been the final moment after she no longer would be able to exercise her haq on him as freely...at least she would assume that..since acc to her Kesar would now be a part of Talli's life...it would make her sad for sure...but I doubt she would have acknowledged it...

Very good point, Maz...I also wondered about this...who can really say what Gulaal's reaction would have been then though...If Kesar had not revealed his real intentions...then if we go by Gulaal's behavior...she was ecstatic through the engagement ceremony...even though she was disturbed when Kesar caught her hand...but otherwise she was mega happy...or so she thought...but would the final moments with the pheras have made her pause and feel that bereftment at THAT point? Was this the point in the story where Gulaal was even ready to acknowledge how much of a HAQ she would be losing on Kesar if that marriage was to fully go through? I'm not sure...she would have been emotional, yes...and we can trust JK to have maaroed some well placed taanas somewhere to make her think about how she no longer has the WIFE tag...but what would Gulaal have thought of all this unless Kesar had not revealed his real intentions? That revelation took over all her thoughts then cuz she was only busy worrying about Talli's future from that point on.

All said and done, I'd say that Gulaal would have felt that sense of loss, but like you said...she wouldn't have acknowledged it...she would have tried to cloak it and put on the happy face and been busy mollycoddling KT as much as she could even then...happy that her two fav. dolls got married😆

But ofcourse...that wasn't how it was meant to be...cuz when you have KESAR in the equation, things can never really stay calm and predictable😆...we can trust him to be the game changer sooner or later...and that is what he did in that period also...first by spooking Gulaal with the revelation in the kitchen scene and then at the mandap and then ofcourse the confession soon thereafter...ek ke baad ek bigger jhatkaas for Galool😆

*Edit: Just to add...one of my all time fav. dialogues will remain Kesar telling Gulaal that he's always felt that haq on her REGARDLESS of caring about any relationship...Gulaal always sensed that on some level ofcourse but Kesar only ever verbalized it that once...I thought it was an awesome scene...and if Gulaal was ever honest with herself, she too would realize how much of a haq she's exercised over Kesar REGARDLESS of a formal relationship...but that is something she will never admit.

Originally posted by: MeySimi

And this line is Talli's punchline and that is exactly what Neil used, to make fun of Hally when Kesar was asked to imitate Talli. "Kesar, tu bahut bura hai, tu sadu hai"

Haha oh yeah he did that...seriously that is ALL Talli said in the beginning epis especially...quite annoying...LOLL I remember that segment when he made fun of Hally and then he was imitating Gulaal by holding a pretend ghoonghat on the side🤣 and he got her scolding tone down pat too! Hilarious😆

Yes, Kesar would not be Kesar if he completed the pheras, Jzee...but then that is why this is an IF scenario naa...IF it had happened, what would Gulaal have thought, felt, done?? That is what me and Maz are musing about...since Gulaal is someone who will never express herself unless pushed into an absolute corner, there is a lot to speculate on the ifs of this scenario.

btw Jzee, which scene are we doing next? I thought Kesar's conversation with himself after Dushyant scolds him for hurting Gulaal so much was interesting...and they showed Gulaal's pain and loneliness that night too...all these scenes were from a maha episode, haina?

And milk coin toss is after this?