9th June - You have no rights over me (Kes-Gul) - Page 2

Originally posted by: lisasandra

thanks for nice update .I am agree that today's episode was too good .

But after today's episode i feel that soon we will see talli and kesar marriage .because gulaal needs someone who will open her eyes .I can depands on talli but she is too in with kesar marryiage and she thinks only kesar and definitly she has no brain .So no hope for me regarding G-K re-union.Show will end up with mahan gulaal's sacrifice and love on vashant.

Originally posted by: *Reemz*

It was a horribly amazing episode...if that makes sense! Great acting, fantastic dialogues and brilliant direction too.

Maaan...how much does she hurt him? You can feel that pain in Kesar's heart. Gulaal belonged to Kesar :( Yet here she says he has no right over her. BIG FAT OUCH! In a way, I can understand why she said that. It was as if she was saying 'whatever feelings you have for me...you can't have them !'Only Vasant could feel that way about her. She was kind of making her stance clear.

Gulaal ignoring Kesar hurts him the most and you can just imagine how he must be feeling shouting at the top of his voice trying to get some attention from the woman who is relentlessly walking away. The dialogue that broke my heart (especially the way he said it) was 'Agar mera tujhpe koi haq nahin hai na, toh aaj ke baad tera bhi mujhpe koi haq nahin'. He would try any threat to try and get her to look back at him, just once!

It's a really painful love story :(

Originally posted by: Lennie

Regarding Talli, i am gonna say she is gonna be over the moon - the fact that he agreed on his own accord and so on, it will be easy to make her come around to it (despite what she heard)and go in her dreamworld 😆

I also think soon we will see the marriage, or the planning of it - if the marriage takes place soon, i see it as Kesar total insisting on it taking place ASAP

Originally posted by: Anjalg

Great analysis Lennie!

I had to watch a couple of Tom & Jerry cartoons right after the episode just so that I could get out of that hopeless mood.🥺 The episode was full of so much hurt and pent up anger and then the feeling that something big and bad is looming ahead. Since Kesar's return, we have been waiting for this confrontation just so that the air gets cleared and Kes and Gul move on to the beginning of their love story but the confrontation led to more wounds opening up!

I can't take either Kesar or Gulaal's side because each of them has gone through so much. Kesar has lived with these doubts, fears and anger for so long. His suspicions are so deep rooted that even if Gulaal had given him the truth...I don't think he would have believed it. Both of them had their swords drawn and they used their words to hurt each other. Kesar has every right to know but he did cross his limits when he accused Gulaal of wanting to marry him off to Talli so she could have her way clear for Dushyant...that was not only an insult to Gulaal but to Vasant's memory as well. Gulaal lashed back by telling Kesar that he did not have any rights on her...none at all! Gulaal asked Kesar to have faith in her and Kesar replied that he did not trust her...😭

So the news was right...Kesar will agree to marry Talli out of revenge! Decisions made in anger lead to no good. And so we are back to square one again...no questions were answered and the hatred was not quelled...now we just wait for a miracle...Gulaal: please read his letters, Kesar: please read her diary...AND Talli (since she is very much in the picture now): start shopping for your potential wedding!!

Originally posted by: lisasandra

I am agree with you too that tali and kesar marriage will take place .What do you think that villagers will raise question regarding kesar's 2 wives.Do you think same way (the way gulaal pick kesar after vasant die ) kesar has to chose one of his wife in front of villagers.

Originally posted by: starasdf

Yeah in a way I see why the marriage could take place even though im praying that it doesnt because the concept of two wives, marrying again etc... i dont like it. For all you know after the marrige step, Talli's pregnant 🤢 Has happened in other shows. The line between Gulaal and other shows is existent until this marriage takes place.

If it does happen and the village does raise its voice and questions Kesar he will pick Talli to piss Gulaal off though Gulaal would be just happy for that.

I dont this how Kesar's decision to marry Talli helps him in any way. Its just anger and pain nothing else.

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Originally posted by: xaviara

I agree with you completely, because like you I can't take any sides either, because my heart ached for both of them tonight. Agreed, and i have always said this, you can feel for both sides, and understand their pov's and feel for them and so on, both your heart do go out for them

What I feel is that this long awaited confrontation between Kesar-Gulaal happened for all the wrong reasons and at a very wrong time, because Kesar asked questions from Gulaal in the manner of a guy who is in love with her, and not as Vasant's younger brother, and that is why Gulaal had to be harsh with him, to let him know that he has no right to as her questions, because that right only belonged to Vasant. If Kesar's feelings and the meaning of his questions were that of Vasant's younger brother, Gulaal would have answered him, because she would have had faith that Kesar will believe her truth. Again i agree and you got it, the complexity of the situation and what manner it came across was also important, yes he asked but he asked in a way, that as you said not as Vasant's younger brother and you saw his first arguement was D and Gulaal, and this is what eats him up and so on- the fact he wanted answers on that and still seeked it out later on, no wonder Gulaal had to answer him in such a harsh way and let him know he has no right on her esp the feelings he having towards her and ones she think he shouldnt, and there is that guilt on that part when she thinks about that

In Kesar's case his love for Gulaal at this moment is far more then his quest for the truth as to why Gulaal hid the truth of Vasant's murder from everyone in the family, that is why he lashed out and accussed her about having relations with Dushyant. That is why instead of telling everyone about Dushyant killing his Vasant Bha and Gulaal hiding the truth, he instead decided to marry Talli to prove a point. Yep, his love i guess he finds no difference to what he felt before and during the years away, so he hasnt realised what it means and the manner he speaks and has feelings that are deeper then before are of a person in love. Yep he is trying to prove a point in accepting to marry Talli and that is a wrong decision in so many ways, coz we can see he has done it for his own reasons and i think Gulaal will just hope that Kes-Talli as time goes by get on and Kes falls for her and so on

@ Lennie : Beautiful post like always !! Am a huge fan 😊 Thank you so much, you write also write well, in the sense i can see you get the pov's and so on and understand it

Originally posted by: starasdf

It was an excellent episode. Both Kesar and Gulaal were amazing. And ofcourse Manasi and Neil portrayed the characters excellently. AGREED 😊

Kesar, I don't know what he seems to be more upset about. The fact that Dushant loved Gulaal or He killed Vasant. -He's upset on that fact that she kept it from him and also like he said today she has given him a dhokha etc, and also it hurted more that she knew, so all his anger and emotions have been directed to her, whilst with D its just been totally hate and dislike. And what eats him up more is something going on between Gulaal and D, and you saw how his eyes filled up when he got to know D loved Gulaal and the deeyavatu was suppose to be with D and so on, i dont think Kesar has seeked out why D did what he did to Vasant, and it was due to his love/lust for Gulaal which i guess still needs to be revealed

I think to him the perfect option is to get rid of Dushant. If Gulaal sends him to jail, it will prove Gulaal has no feelings for him and his brother's murderer is in jail.

So getting rid of Dushant is the perfect solution to him right now. Thats what he thinks, he cant stand Gulaal in each and every way treats D as if he has done nothing, thats how it looks to him and also like you say it would also confirm in a way she has no feelings for him, but we all know what the silent understanding Gulal has regarding D, which we saw last week or so... unlike Kesar, she doesnt have bitterness held for D

When he says you hid it from me, from your Kesar and If i dont have any rights over you, you dont have any rights over me. Those where dialogues of todays episode. Those were the dialogues and the RIGHTS dialogue changed the Kes-Gul equation even more, it was like letting each other go, but yet still connected deep down

Clearly he has an imagine in his head that he will listen to Gulaal and Gulaal does what he wants. Just the two of them and no one else. But Gulaal ripped that image up in todays episode. That she did, and i can understand why in anger she did and what he just accused her off, and the fact that he said he has no faith in her, she was like well thats there no point in discussing this or talking about it

I dont think anyone of them is completely right or wrong. Both have thier reasons and both are crossing thier limits. Agreed, we can see both their pov's and bot their feelings and so on

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Originally posted by: lisasandra

I am agree with you too that tali and kesar marriage will take place .What do you think that villagers will raise question regarding kesar's 2 wives.Do you think same way (the way gulaal pick kesar after vasant die ) kesar has to chose one of his wife in front of villagers.

Originally posted by: starasdf

Yeah in a way I see why the marriage could take place even though im praying that it doesnt because the concept of two wives, marrying again etc... i dont like it. For all you know after the marrige step, Talli's pregnant 🤢 Has happened in other shows. The line between Gulaal and other shows is existent until this marriage takes place.

If it does happen and the village does raise its voice and questions Kesar he will pick Talli to piss Gulaal off though Gulaal would be just happy for that.

I dont this how Kesar's decision to marry Talli helps him in any way. Its just anger and pain nothing else.

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