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Originally posted by: RejiBuji

Makers will throw virakhi on our face

Virat announcing to the entire world that Pakhi is the best mom alive.

To me, Vinu gives her protection not the vice versa. She either cries or kisses. There is no nurture

Yes he loves Vinu. Virat is going through upheaval of emotions now. Even more now after Sai made him insignificant.

Now when Savi is revealed, it is natural for him to get lost in her. He wanted Savi for the longest time. In his own emotions, he might become blind to Vinu for a while. Thats where Sai should step in and fulfill the needs for Vinu.

Pakhi as I see NEEDS vinu to be secure. Not the otherway round. Giving food and taking care of wounds is not nourishment. IMO.

Originally posted by: sadiltl

Virat announcing to the entire world that Pakhi is the best mom alive.

To me, Vinu gives her protection not the vice versa. She either cries or kisses. There is no nurture

Originally posted by: sadiltl

I think, savi’s revelation is high point which will change the plot direction. Why I think it will be not be vinu’s reveal is because…. Vinu’s birth/death is the reason for leap, so the reveal can’t be too soon. Within 2 months. Savi is a plot level twist. Vinu will be the leap level twist. Vinu’s reveal is as big as samrats return. Savi’s twist is like sruthi plot which tightens the story and brings about change of emotions.

sairat are at a point where they have to look at each other differently. Sai, even if she knows virat and pakhi are in this sham marriage, might not be able to do anything. Because from her side, there is nothing that could change anything. She gave up already!! So the trigger to get close will have to be from virat’s side. As I mentioned earlier, character wise virat is more disturbed now. He has sai alive and she says he is nobody. If she goes away he will not live in peace. I don’t see him moving on or forget. He will be in this madness for some time. It is getting repetitive already. So for him to take next step and move the plot, his emotions have to change. Which will happen with savi’s reveal.

What I think is vinu’s legs also will give up. Sai might take up the orphanage job again so she will also have to see/know something that melts her. Not sure what!!!

If they show them fighting again with same emotions, it will be a drag. Both have to see each other differently even though the underlying resentment will be there but will play out as angst factor

@Bold. That is the the entire game changer. He was the reason for them to split and he has to be get them reunited. After everything it is Vinu's loss that is running like a bad blood everywhere. For some it is anger, hatred, for Sai it is guilt etc. All these emotions will continue till Vinu truly returns.

It is not V or the family whose forgiveness that will count. It is Vinu who will have to relieve Sai of her guilt. No one else can do that for her. And that is why they haven't shown Sai's guilt yet. She is always quiet when V or anyone accuses her of it. So it is clear that she feels she is responsible. Even if Chavans or V forgive her, Sai can never fully come out of it. Till her child says so. And I'm actually hoping for a scene. When Sai discovers the truth, and when they decide to reveal it to V, I wish it is Sai. She finally narrates what really happened that day and if he can forgive his mother for losing him. And I want Vinu to say that Sai was not at fault and it was an accident. That is not just for Sai for for V and Chavans to get message loud and clear.

With Vinu's truth it will definitely complicate things, but post that Savi is not as impactful in the Sai-V equation. Because they are already established as parents to Vinu. Savi is an extension to the family. with Vinu the family is complete in certain context. Because most are unaware of Savi. But if Savi is revealed first, the vacuum of Vinu will still be there. It is like revealing the secrets based on the intensity and impact on the story in a phased manner. Leaving the high point for end to bring it to a full circle.

The way Moor has reasoned it, I feel inclined towards that theory too. Because they are valid points and there is reasons are well convicing, but more importantly aligned how Vankar plays on certain aspects.

But then my OG belief has been Vinu adoption-Savi-Vinu revelation in that sequence. And that was based on the overall track connection with the pre leap phase.

Like you said Sadhika- Repetitiveness. It is just going around. Just as I wrote somewhere, Hot press, cold press is going on in rotation with toxicity going in rounds. This cycle has to break, while not entirely ending it. Sai will not be the pursuer here. Whatever be the case with V-P marriage. V has done enough to keep her at bay. So the only one who can break that cycle is V. And for that he has to be convinced that Sai didn’t move on. Till that he will neither let her close but will not live in peace if she leaves.

Originally posted by: Sherry24

@Bold. That is the the entire game changer. He was the reason for them to split and he has to be get them reunited. After everything it is Vinu's loss that is running like a bad blood everywhere. For some it is anger, hatred, for Sai it is guilt etc. All these emotions will continue till Vinu truly returns.

Exactly! Sai's guilt is unfathomble to anyone. just because she is smiling doesnt mean she is OK. When VInu was born, she said he completed her. While Savi helped her to survive after what had happened after the accident, Vinu will help her to live again.

It is not V or the family whose forgiveness that will count. It is Vinu who will have to relieve Sai of her guilt. No one else can do that for her. And that is why they haven't shown Sai's guilt yet. She is always quiet when V or anyone accuses her of it. So it is clear that she feels she is responsible. Even if Chavans or V forgive her, Sai can never fully come out of it. Till her child says so. And I'm actually hoping for a scene. When Sai discovers the truth, and when they decide to reveal it to V, I wish it is Sai. She finally narrates what really happened that day and if he can forgive his mother for losing him. And I want Vinu to say that Sai was not at fault and it was an accident. That is not just for Sai for for V and Chavans to get message loud and clear.

For me, the story is not about Chavanese anymore. It is about SaiRat and their children and how family, epecially Pakhi broke them down...Virat allowed them to break it. Now when the broken pieces are getting back together, he SHOULD stick them back together. This is high time Virat will have to work like a husband and father. Life has given them second chance and he should not let it go.

With Vinu's truth it will definitely complicate things, but post that Savi is not as impactful in the Sai-V equation. Because they are already established as parents to Vinu. Savi is an extension to the family. with Vinu the family is complete in certain context. Because most are unaware of Savi. But if Savi is revealed first, the vacuum of Vinu will still be there. It is like revealing the secrets based on the intensity and impact on the story in a phased manner. Leaving the high point for end to bring it to a full circle.

Yeah SaiRat will be happy with Savi back, but Vinu's truth will bring the peace back.

The way Moor has reasoned it, I feel inclined towards that theory too. Because they are valid points and there is reasons are well convicing, but more importantly aligned how Vankar plays on certain aspects.

But then my OG belief has been Vinu adoption-Savi-Vinu revelation in that sequence. And that was based on the overall track connection with the pre leap phase.

Yeah all her points are valid but plot wise I feel it doesnt stick . @bold is what I always thought would happen

Like you said Sadhika- Repetitiveness. It is just going around. Just as I wrote somewhere, Hot press, cold press is going on in rotation with toxicity going in rounds. This cycle has to break, while not entirely ending it. Sai will not be the pursuer here. Whatever be the case with V-P marriage. V has done enough to keep her at bay. So the only one who can break that cycle is V. And for that he has to be convinced that Sai didn’t move on. Till that he will neither let her close but will not live in peace if she leaves.

Yup. He will not rest in peace nor let go for sai, especially if it is Jaggy. He will turn suicidal. Like Rono says, I will kill that man and kill myself. I dont know whether this is the same person who was willing to let Sai go before confession, if that is something she wanted.

If you see the plot, poetically it is very beautiful how they placed the kids. Sai was shattered after Vinu's death. No parent can handle that pain. But Savi's pregnancy gave her hope and strength to live. Similarly Virat was suicidal post his family's death, but Vinu gave him hope to live. A part of Sai always stayed with Virat and a part of Virat stayed with Sai. Beautiful it is! In KD, Rono mentions it in one of the tracks how Sai was pregnant with his child and hence carrying a part of him, when he was not there with her physically 😒

Originally posted by: sadiltl

Yes he loves Vinu. Virat is going through upheaval of emotions now. Even more now after Sai made him insignificant.

Now when Savi is revealed, it is natural for him to get lost in her. He wanted Savi for the longest time. In his own emotions, he might become blind to Vinu for a while. Thats where Sai should step in and fulfill the needs for Vinu.

Pakhi as I see NEEDS vinu to be secure. Not the otherway round. Giving food and taking care of wounds is not nourishment. IMO.

I don’t believe in Pakhi’s transformation until and unless she acknowledges her past mistakes , repents for it and walk out on Virat and find her world like RK did in KD in the end . Unless this happens no amount of whitewashing can convince me .

Sadhika , what your take on this .

after the race , will Sai be triggered to leave Nagpur because of BK giving her the tickets or will there be more drama like the promo where Sai will try to inform Virat about Savi . I am wondering if Savi reveal will start this week or not .

Originally posted by: sadiltl

Hey that’s ok. I tag people who are around! I love your comments .

I was thinking the same thing! Virat will eat, breathe and sleep savi once he knows she is his! Not that he doesn’t love vinu, but savi is someone who he always wanted and missed for too long. In his emotions for savi, he might neglect vinu! He has a bad track record as dad already and balancing is not something that he knows 🫤

this is where i want sai to step in and bond with vinu. Vinu naturally might seek her more. Because pakhi as we have seen never gave him that warmth or protection.

Listing down a few thoughts shared by all of us post leap

1. V is still functioning as a husband. V is stuck at the point where Sai left him. Sai and P are now mothers. In fact Sai left because she was a mother more than a wife

2. Vinu will be insecure, once Savi's truth is revealed

3. Sai and Vinu have to bond first as orphans before their mother-son relationship is revealed

4. Sai vs P as a mother to Vinu. Sai is the strength, P is a weakness for Vinu. Sai encourages him, P is is more a paranoid one who just obsesses over him

Even with Vinu, V hasn't grown into a father. He is stuck. Vinu has only managed to pull him back from that suicidal phase where he had lost the will to live. He gave him a reason to live. But Vinu has not managed to turn him into a father. The way he has been with Vinu post meeting Sai, is an example. How his own ego/anger/pride ruled over Vinu's well-being speaks volumes about it. Even today, he is pushing Vinu and risking his health only out of his own anger at Sai. To make her invalid. To prove that they can function without her help. That is not how a parent would behave. However P is, she is still a mother. And that contrast shows who is actually behaving like a parent.

Savi was his dream, a dream of him turning into a father. He had in a way associated his role as father with Savi in his visualisation of a child. Remember that convo he had with Ninad after Sai's miscarriage. He said he can't see anything ahead. No future. He lost his reason to live. And he has no alternate plan. So the realisation of that dream is what will actually turn him into a father. The dream coming true.

Once Savi's truth is revealed, Vinu may feel insecure because of his adopted status. Also, the Chavans are capable of making that difference evident to the child. But like Sadhika said, V loves Vinu, but with Savi's truth he is bound to incline towards her. A child he always wanted. A girl child with Sai. Also, he will want to compensate what all the years he missed with her. Unlike Chavans, V will unknowingly V neglect Vinu. Or rather he will be more focussed on Savi and Vinu will feel that difference. Savi will turn V into the father that time and Vinu have been unable to do.

Post the Sai-V face-off I mentioned, how is Sai to reveal Savi's secret to a man like V. He is not fit to be a father. A one who can't respect woman, who openly abuses and accuses his wife, the mother of his child of having a lose character is not worthy of being a father. And Sai should not allow it either. Because, V is not a father yet. Savi is not just going to turn him into a father, but also lead to his reformation as a husband.

Chavans and V have to understand the pain of an orphan. And that will be done through Vinu. Their punishment that their own child lived with them as an orphan. Even worse if they turn bias towards Savi. The eventual revelation will be that much needed slap on their faces,

Sai's pain as an orphan an constant jab at it has not been brought out. Her pain never addressed. And will be through Sai helping Vinu through his own journey dealing with the insecurities.

P can instigate him, or she can make him feel sorry at his own situation. But she can never make him get over this. Only Sai can do that for him. Thus not just bonding with his mother, but also understanding her pain that no one really has understood. Vinu may not be an orphan in the literal sense, but he understands it through his experience having to live a life of one all these years.

Originally posted by: 404_NotFound

Sadhika , what your take on this .

after the race , will Sai be triggered to leave Nagpur because of BK giving her the tickets or will there be more drama like the promo where Sai will try to inform Virat about Savi . I am wondering if Savi reveal will start this week or not .

My take is that Sai will not reveal. She has completely shut down. But, there might be still a possibility that she 'feels' for Virat as a dad. However, if she reveals it, means staying close to Virat which hurts her now due to his words. She will be in a conflict for sure. There should be 'something' to melt her. I dont know what. If you ask me to write a plot here this is what I do.

Vinu's race will happen and Vinu will ofcourse go to his mother who is Sai. Pakhi is insecure. Virat will tell some nice words to her as lipservice, Sai will be hurt but how much more can it hurt after his accusations!. Anyways, the scumbags will berate her or remind her challenge to leave. Sai will anyways decide to leave because thats something she herself vowed to them. Meanwhile, during their panchayat at CN they accuse her again. Not sure Virat will be there or not. Ashwini will spill about assault angle. Virat will either overhear, or pojitive pakhi will spill it to him.

he will go to thrash jaggy and in that fight, jaggy reveals how sai has been waiting for him. He will understand her love, but will be mad at her zidd and ofcourse for hiding savi. the slap and her words will make sense. He will know why she is offended so much (hopefully) and will run to stop her.

Now there is no conflict from Virat's side. He WILL stop her, if not for his love for Sai, rightfully as Savi's father. The twist will be Sai's conflict. The secret is revealed, she cant go from Nagpur. But whether she will come back to CN for stay separately is something we need to see. What I think is, if Jaggy tells her how disturbed Virat was to assume that he violated her, it might give her some peek into VIrat's feeligns. But he is married so obviously this will not be the reason to go to CN. Now if Savi wants Virat, then having learnt his feeligns a bit through jaggy's information, it might help her in taking the decision easily. I mean to say, Savi will be the reason she might consider going to CN for 'sometime', but if jaggy reveals Virat's outburst to her, she might melt a TINY bit.

However, I still think she will want to live separately because he is married and she is not someone who will enter that house as the other woman. thats where they both might fight cats and dogs. Not sure which way they take. TRP wise she going to CN makes sense, plot wise and chracter wise Sai will never go to CN till Virat clarifies about Pakhi convincingly.

there was a dialogue in tanu weds manu 2 " Kya sharma ji .hum thora bewafa hogaye aap toh baacchalan hogaye"..

This is how sai should give him back when he comes to question her about their daughter" Kyoon virat.. Hum thora bewafa hogaye the aap toh puri bacchalan hogaye..you did not wait to marry your bhabi"