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Posted: 3 years ago

Tabula Rasa

Phoenix rising from the ashes….we have spoken about this so many times. And this leap is meant to be just that for Sai and Virat.

The fire had been simmering in the background for long. In fact, ever since they met. While they learnt their way during their course of their relationship to understand each other, there has been so much that has remained unaddressed between them. All that has been piling up since they first met.

Right from the first scene where his car splashed mud on her, to KJ’s death, to Sai leaving with Vinu. After every fall out, they came back. But always left those unaddressed. While they have been comfortable and have had candid conversations, they have never really spoken about the bigger skeletons in the closet. Their love had kept them going, despite all this, but when the love had another contender (their baby), priorities changed, and their love was not enough to hold them together.

The inferno has been staying out since all these years and it is yet to reach its peak. The peak when they meet each other. There was lot said before they separated, but there is more that is yet to spoken. The circumstances and their actions post separation have added to their anger (at least Sai for now, V we still have to wait). But after knowing about Savi he may hold that against her.

Their relationship started off with conditions forced upon by circumstances. It was a marriage which, neither parties willingly entered. Only with time they fell with each other. But the fact remained that the foundation of their marriage was a “deal” which had an expiry. Their did build their life on it, but there were insecurities and accusations that arose directly and indirectly due to this. All that has been stored in their conscious and subconscious mind for each other has to be washed away.

So, it was imperative that they started on a clean state. A fresh start….Tabula Rasa. With something crucial that was missing earlier “CONSENT”…a eager one..from the heart.

Anger, Vengeance, Regret, reflection, resurgence this is a journey Sai and Virat will be going through. But it wouldn’t be just them. In pockets, in smaller or greater degree, the Chavans will be having their own one.

BK has been the strongest authority and the one with regressive and rigid mindset. So it is essential to break her built internal and external. Her belief can only be changed when she herself is posed with a situation which puts her at crossroads and she decision is for hers to make. No one is pining over “Waaris” they way she is. She has been the most insistent with the “male child” defining the word in literal context in her dictionary. This has to break for the entire family’s functioning to change.

In all this Sai had Savi, V lost everything, yet found Vinu to fill the void in his life, but BK got nothing in this bargain. She is still deprived of a “Waaris” that fits her bill. One of my predictions was that Vinu should not be biologically V’s child and hence making him ineligible as a “Waaris” contender. Savi’s entry will fill a part since she would be Chavan blood, but she will be a girl child. Hence not fitting the critieria. This will be putting BK to test on her strongest myth/belief. Ninad and Ashwini will also need to learn that they can’t leave their children’s life and their fate to anyone. Even if it one of their own, they should intervene strongly rather than let the wrong win and destroying lives. Same goes for the others, who have always just played mere spectators or just added oil to the fire. Their nonchalant or malicious intentions can lead to irrevocable repercussions.

It is possible that Vinu is not Sairat child at all. If we go back to cowrie, I always felt that Sairat were only meant to have one child. And the other child was always at risk, hence the Mahanth had asked Sai to always keep the “Cowrie” with her. And they lost Vinu.

Now if this is indeed the Vinu they lost, then I feel this will only lay the foundation for Gen Leap if they are planning one. This will also mean P having a stronger bond with him in either situation since she was always with him. I wish Sai develops an instant bond.

While I say this, I do wish they are able to do justice to this start and give it the right treatment.

Sai is still holding Virat on his last words. And she feels that he had actually dispensed her from his life and even the news of her accident could change that. While she left she had said that V was only trying to keep Vinu with them and he didn’t care if Sai left. And all these feelings were strengthened when V didn’t come looking for her. As a police officer he was expected to use his resources and go for an extensive search, if he really loved her. A similar case when he didn’t go hunting for the goons who attacked Sai when she went looking for Geeta. From all this Sai deduced that she wasn’t as important to her as she assumed. V was not concerned whether she survived or not. The family just wanted to get rid of her.

Something which is unclear if Sai knows about Vinu not being found. Because, even in her flashbacks all she recalls is V’s last words to her. As a mother is meant to feel the guilt and remember him. We have not seen it. Not sure if this is to keep the suspense element alive.

But from what I feel, Sai would have been searching for Vinu and eventually seen V with the adopted child and concluded that V found the baby, and hence never attempted search further. She was relieved of her guilt partially assuming that her baby survived, but feeling responsible for putting him through this ordeal she decided to not pursue him further and let him live with the Chavans and V.

Sai will meet Vinu and she will connect with him, but will also get a glimpse into current Chavans household dynamics that will be misinterpreted. Probably Vinu addressing P as “Ma”. Also, I don’t feel Vinu will recognize Sai, and that will increase her resentment.

We have seen Sai’s side so far, but yet to know how V feels about it. What is his state of mind?

Words

Will ties this back to my review on the episode when Sai left CN. There were lot of mean words spoken and some ugly accusations. Death can make one reflect like none. While Sai still continues to hold her anger and grudge, for V it is different. For him Sai is no more, and he would ideally be carrying the burden of it. Her death should make him regret and repent. His own words would play heavy on him when he was unable to see Sai’s body or perform her last rites.

Until he finds Sai and knows of Savi’s existence he should be repenting. In fact, if he has reflected on what conspired and led to these circumstances, he will not repeat it. He was blind in anger and had no control over his senses and events that followed. And should have learnt his lesson the hard way that his anger has always been led to drastic consequences, the last being catastrophic. If nothing else, he should know better to keep his anger on check.

PS - However, in all this there is one thing that doesn’t sit well. Why would Vinu now know of Sai? If V regrets everything and misses Sai what made them remove the proofs of her existence from CN. (This is on my assumption that Vinu does not know about Sai).

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Posted: 3 years ago

Their relationship started off with conditions forced upon by circumstances. It was a marriage which, neither parties willingly entered. Only with time they fell with each other. But the fact remained that the foundation of their marriage was a “deal” which had an expiry. Their did build their life on it, but there were insecurities and accusations that arose directly and indirectly due to this. All that has been stored in their conscious and subconscious mind for each other has to be washed away.


this exactly is their problem. Love is there but no trust. They both don’t feel themselves worthy for each other. Sai feels virat can easily move on from her. Why not, her evaluation of him was always based on his support when third person is involved… pakhi mostly. He failed her there by not giving her good answers. Virat feels he is disposable for her because she was not into him from the beginning. She was forced into the marriage. That she is capable of leaving him anytime. May be this separation will make them understand that they can’t move on from each other.. sai will learn to see him beyond his words. Virat will learn to see her beyond her action of leaving him. He doesn’t tell her in words doesn’t mean she is not important and she leaving him means not loving him enough. First of all, they should talk and clear… just now I posted this in another thread. In KD they have this conversation post ujjanpur track


https://m.timesofindia.com/tv/news/bengali/kusum-dola-written-update-july-5-2018-ranajay-and-iman-spend-quality-time/amp_articleshow/64879256.cms



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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: pinky_97

Y all are saying that virat married to pakhi😭

I can't tolerate this. If he is married then no root for sairat. All doors are closed for sairat😭

I feel they are not married
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Posted: 3 years ago

They might be married but since Sai is alive, the second marriage might not be legal, hence the promo.

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Posted: 3 years ago

Keep your predictions coming Moor, you are back to being stalked ;-)


They have done a good casting with Savi. We need her to be sassy, yet soft and most importantly endearingly cute. She is loved by everyone and she has to instantly get the Chavans to fall for her. She had to be Mini Sai.


I agree that it seems that their outlook has been swapped. But the fact remains that on surface Sai was always the more impulsive and stubborn and V the more composed and accommodating. We know that is not the complete truth.

But the fact that Sai had given enough to this, and had been so considerate and accommodating with V, she had to finally blow up after repeated broken assurances.


Let's not even into logic part, they never really follow something as basic as "LOGIC". Someone had to taunt Sai, anyone could have done that. Why display their stupidity? V's mission was utter nonsense. Video calling in between shootout? Seriously?

Well I understand the reason, that Vinu is that important to V, but still some "LOGIC". Basically to prove P was always right, V can be called during his mission, and rest were all fools. Or Vinu is more important than anyone, as he changed his own rules of no calls only for "Vinu".


I like Sai's post leap look. Her saree, jewellery, hair and even the watch makes up for a perfect look and enhancing her character. And now the kaftan. Not sure why they brought old UM only for a brief scene.


All four will meet in their individual set up, except Sai and V. My prediction is fro the first meeting only Sai will know about Vinu's identity. Rest will be unravelling gradually. While she may read things incorrectly from what she sees and hears which would add fuel to the fire, she will be concerned about Vinu. And he too will bond with her.

I too felt that Savi will come to Vinu's rescue in the camp and they will connect. And later V will meet Savi. The promise he may give to her to find her father will play on his mind.

For most part of next week, this is how it will go. V wouldn’t know about Savi's identity so soon, but he will long to see her.

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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: Moor278

V ke liye bahot bade heartbreak ka samaan tayyar hai. smiley41


Something that Sherry had pointed out in her fight episode review.

That Sai has broken all ties with him and by not getting her body back, she has not allowed him to carry her arthi, metaphorically she has not given him the last right either. 💔

If V doesn't repent after this, I don't know what will.


Exactly my thoughts!!


Continuing with that, nobody noticed that in the fight before leaving the house, among all the other things, V called Sai, "The great Sai Joshi"

Not Sai Chavan 😔


While it may have come out in anger at that time, he sort of officially distanced himself from her at that point.

I used to love when he used to call her Sai Joshi but that was more of an endearment. I always had a thought that he prefers "Sai Joshi" more than "Sai Chavan". Samruddhi will agree 😉

Here it did the opposite. 👎🏼


Yet while looking for the passengers list, he asked for Sai Virat Chavan and she must have mentioned her name as Sai Virat Chavan as well as it was in the list.

But he didn't come back for her believing her to be dead and she is mad at him not knowing his assumption. Rightfully so. All this must have been playing on her mind. I dont think she tried contacting him after Saavi's delivery for this reason.


Therefore Saavi doesn't even know her father's name. So Saavi is definitely Saavi Joshi and not Saavi Chavan. But still Sai has named her Saavi and not anything else ❤️


Ditto. While she named the baby Savi, considering her current feelings, she would have been given "Joshi" surname. Savi would have been an emotional decision, owing to the memories with V which are somewhere buried under her resentment. But I also feel it could be in the memory of her first child that they had fondly addressed as Savi.


V will be upset and maybe angry as well to know that Sai is alive, Saavi is his daughter and that Sai didn't even consider him in enough respect that she discarded his last name also ... Something which was a contentious point for them since day one. And which was a major point in the remarriage scenario. But she kept her first name as a symbol of their love.

I so wish V meets Saavi first and forms an instant bond with her.


While Sai has her reasons to do so, it will be played nicely in the whole lineage, bloodline and heir drama.

Add to that the fact that Vinu might be adopted and it will only be known later that he is indeed their kid. So BK may not have accepted him and it is also probable that V is living independently finally.


CNwasis and especially BK has been handed a nice slap... BK was always obsessed about 'Joshi' name and she wanted a male heir.

She pestered Sai/ taunted her to change her name and to give a male heir. Now she gets everything yet nothing as per her wishes.

Karma makes her pay 👏


Now BK has an heir but its a female. Saavi biologically will have Joshi traits and now she has the name officially as well. They may change it later.

I remember discussing this with Sherry/Sadhika when Sai's first pregnancy was announced. As to what would be BK's reaction if its a girl.


I dont know if this was thought out or I am reading too much but ...

Nicely played Vanku smiley32


This is truly a SaiRat 2.0 refreshed version. Clean slate indeed. 🥳


Completely agree with everything you said and have same thoughts with nothing more to add.

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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: 404_NotFound

True . It’s not glaringly visible like other characters. Maybe because Sai is the victim as well .

Sai and Virat both were selfish in the surrogacy track . Virat out of greed allowed Pakhi to be the surrogate and similarly Sai didn’t file a complaint after the procedure because she wanted the baby and if Pakhi hadn’t played her dirty game Sai would be fine to forget about illegal aspect .

None of the characters in the show were against illegal surrogacy . Sai was ok to forgive Pakhi and made Pakhi the second mom after the delivery provided Pakhi doesn’t go after her kid and husband. She forgave Pakhi easily and even allowed Pakhi to be the mom though she knew Pakhi was a criminal. Sai also said she was ok to give Vinu away for few days if Pakhi was really ill despite knowing Pakhi’s conspiracy to become surrogate . So sometimes I wonder the real issue was not illegal surrogacy, a criminal raising Vinu . The only issue is Pakhi tried to snatch Sai’s rights if she had done that then Sai would never raise her voice against the wrong .

I don’t know if we can Sai as righteous who stood for justice . Even in the past , Sai didn’t get Kaku and gang arrested for Pulkit’s kidnap , forget Kaku’s treatment towards Devi and was instrumental in patching up Kaku and Devi relationship. I always seen Sai as flawed character just like Virat .

Wahi to, thats why I said she is butchered too.

Basically this PH is extremely incompetent. They cant do situational stories that is why they keep making people randomly react out of character all the time. It is true for all three leads and side cast too.


And not surprised either because Vankar once famously said there is no character of person, we all react as per situation. Later part is true but how we react is based on character but ab CD ka vision hi bakwas hae to story aise hi hogi.


I am only against them normalizing abuse incest domestic violence n crime in name of family. That is above Sai Virat and Sairat for me. But it seems makers dont care and channel neither.

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Posted: 3 years ago

They might be married but since Sai is alive, the second marriage might not be legal, hence the promo.

https://twitter.com/neenukettles1/status/1560915150353625088?s=20&t=nUO6vjulTcTLpY4Mn1brXQ

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Posted: 3 years ago

I don’t know but I took that scene a little differently…. I took it as a single father raising his kid wanted to ensure he was available to him at any cost. the only thing is I wish V didn’t feel surprised to see Vinu calling… I wish it was shot in such a way that the phone # was only for Vinu to call. He would take it every where… anyways I saw that scene differently! To be honest I was glad that V is shown fully engaged with Vinu.

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Posted: 3 years ago

Also if they show ViRakhi married then Virat running after Sai & having romance with, eyeing her publicly etc everything turn it into an EMA it'll be same like other shows. It might get justified cus they're leads plus Pakhi is hated but it won't go well with Sai's character if she gets involved with V if he's legally married to Pakhi.

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