Neel talks about trolling - Page 3

See. You get back what you give. Ayesha recieve much more love because of the personality she carries.

*edited by DT* I don't think I need to say this what theu recieve.

Aslo , trp kitni bhi achi ho goodwill matters.it matters a lot . One of my aquaintance is into film making and stuffs she told me goodwill of an actor matters. Because face value matters. No matter how much negative publicity you do , you end up turning into a joke.

I so wish he doesn't grab any work.

It is so so sad that a person has made a request to be left alone and far from being sensitive, he is being mercilessly trolled again - just like he predicted in the post. Even invoking mental health did not make an impact.

The truth is - both Ayesha & Neil's fans engage in unacceptable behaviour. Obviously, I'm not saying all do it. They troll and mock the actors and give justification for their actions - give excuse that the actors invited it themselves, that they are defending their favourite or pointing to the other FD to justify themselves. Trolling is unethical under any circumstances.

I've seen considerable amount of posts and stories both in Instagram and Twitter targetting one or the other actors. Body shaming, sl*t shaming, mocking casually about s*x tapes, passing judgement, rude remarks over unsubstantiated claims, consummation jokes, even rejoicing over someone's illness. There are considerable people gloating over how their stories (tagging the actors) trolling them, was seen by the actors. These posts must be coming in the actors timeline - they will see it - and it will feel so hostile.

Trolling can affect people badly - actors, SM personalities and even ordinary people are subject to trolling. Some learn to ignore or be immune to it which is good. Others may be very sensitive - they may go into depression while others may lash out. While we advise actors to develop a thick skin, should we also not advice the fandom to develop a thick skin - to not take things personally? Isn't it putting the onus of stopping the trolls being put on those being subjected to trolling?

The problem is there is total ignorance on what trolling can do to people. If people knew, they would not indulge in such hate. Social media makes people to say things to someone - which they would not say to anyone face to face. There has to be a realisation that the person at the other end is a living, breathing human being with feelings.

At the end of the day, actors life, their actions are not going to make any impact on our life - but trolling actors will affect them.

Originally posted by: dmohan1288

It is so so sad that a person has made a request to be left alone and far from being sensitive, he is being mercilessly trolled again - just like he predicted in the post. Even invoking mental health did not make an impact.

The truth is - both Ayesha & Neil's fans engage in unacceptable behaviour. Obviously, I'm not saying all do it. They troll and mock the actors and give justification for their actions - give excuse that the actors invited it themselves, that they are defending their favourite or pointing to the other FD to justify themselves. Trolling is unethical under any circumstances.

I've seen considerable amount of posts and stories both in Instagram and Twitter targetting one or the other actors. Body shaming, sl*t shaming, mocking casually about s*x tapes, passing judgement, rude remarks over unsubstantiated claims, consummation jokes, even rejoicing over someone's illness. There are considerable people gloating over how their stories (tagging the actors) trolling them, was seen by the actors. These posts must be coming in the actors timeline - they will see it - and it will feel so hostile.

Trolling can affect people badly - actors, SM personalities and even ordinary people are subject to trolling. Some learn to ignore or be immune to it which is good. Others may be very sensitive - they may go into depression while others may lash out. While we advise actors to develop a thick skin, should we also not advice the fandom to develop a thick skin - to not take things personally? Isn't it putting the onus of stopping the trolls being put on those being subjected to trolling?

The problem is there is total ignorance on what trolling can do to people. If people knew, they would not indulge in such hate. Social media makes people to say things to someone - which they would not say to anyone face to face. There has to be a realisation that the person at the other end is a living, breathing human being with feelings.

At the end of the day, actors life, their actions are not going to make any impact on our life - but trolling actors will affect them.

I agree to the point you have made. But not seeing all this idealistically but practically , can it be controlled? Honestly can it be. EVen for the like of the prime minister of the country who gets trolled on a daily basis, its not, honestly has anyone able to control it at all .

What I see here is as actors they know like we know there are fandom wars, vicious FD wars, they should also know by now, because so much has happened already in the past, that such posts leads to also the other actor getting trolled and body shamed in return. The likes of Karan Johar , Alia Bhatt had to go off SM for months to get away from that, they had to limit their comment section for the only ones who they follow.

And in all this there are fans who have been called out by these actors, what about their mental health?

See everyone here agrees trolling is wrong, but what is the way out? If at all the people in the industry are so affected, they all should come out as a unit and make a provision, request to the authorities to take strict action and have a continuous surveillance. That is the only way out. Coming out and telling people Oh dont do it, is not going to help sadly. We as normal fans are giving them an option to not let it bother, to stay away from the negativity, as the TV actor in person has effectively and comfortably ignored the good part of the FD as well, claiming being non SM friendly.

Originally posted by: asmi_joya

I agree to the point you have made. But not seeing all this idealistically but practically , can it be controlled? Honestly can it be. EVen for the like of the prime minister of the country who gets trolled on a daily basis, its not, honestly has anyone able to control it at all .

What I see here is as actors they know like we know there are fandom wars, vicious FD wars, they should also know by now, because so much has happened already in the past, that such posts leads to also the other actor getting trolled and body shamed in return. The likes of Karan Johar , Alia Bhatt had to go off SM for months to get away from that, they had to limit their comment section for the only ones who they follow.

And in all this there are fans who have been called out by these actors, what about their mental health?

See everyone here agrees trolling is wrong, but what is the way out? If at all the people in the industry are so affected, they all should come out as a unit and make a provision, request to the authorities to take strict action and have a continuous surveillance. That is the only way out. Coming out and telling people Oh dont do it, is not going to help sadly. We as normal fans are giving them an option to not let it bother, to stay away from the negativity, as the TV actor in person has effectively and comfortably ignored the good part of the FD as well, claiming being non SM friendly.

Last time I remember fans were royally ignoring their wedding but yet again one id was made to entice fans to do trend or even negative trends..

One story gets published within 5 minutes..

I'm actually now sick and tired of all those celebs in general how they complain about trolling but the actual truth is it's them who are inviting such things..tgey make their life a public domain and later victimise themselves getting bashed on sm.

Everything is virtual and business for them.. It's more important Sharing photos on sm than living the moment.. So called "PRIVATE" people..

Originally posted by: Shaome

Last time I remember fans were royally ignoring their wedding but yet again one id was made to entice fans to do trend or even negative trends..

One story gets published within 5 minutes..

I'm actually now sick and tired of all those celebs in general how they complain about trolling but the actual truth is it's them who are inviting such things..tgey make their life a public domain and later victimise themselves getting bashed on sm.

Everything is virtual and business for them.. It's more important Sharing photos on sm than living the moment.. So called "PRIVATE" people..

This is another story all together, but since we are talking about the mental health and sensitivity aspects of it, I wanted to actually bring out what can be done here in this case honestly. In general, they use it all to stay relevant. See three articles already, while the other lead is down with covid, nothing on her, though.

Originally posted by: asmi_joya

This is another story all together, but since we are talking about the mental health and sensitivity aspects of it, I wanted to actually bring out what can be done here in this case honestly. In general, they use it all to stay relevant. See three articles already, while the other lead is down with covid, nothing on her, though.

I was the one who always requested to stay away from them as much as possible.. Not everything is bad about them.. Trolling can effect on both sides.. It infuses lots of negativity.. These is why I don't like them.. Their vicious cycle is on and on..

Even if you try hard to ignore sometime it just boils your blood.. Practically we can give two hoots.. And one fine day they will probably stop pulling such stunts and humble themselves

Originally posted by: asmi_joya

I agree to the point you have made. But not seeing all this idealistically but practically , can it be controlled? Honestly can it be. EVen for the like of the prime minister of the country who gets trolled on a daily basis, its not, honestly has anyone able to control it at all .

What I see here is as actors they know like we know there are fandom wars, vicious FD wars, they should also know by now, because so much has happened already in the past, that such posts leads to also the other actor getting trolled and body shamed in return. The likes of Karan Johar , Alia Bhatt had to go off SM for months to get away from that, they had to limit their comment section for the only ones who they follow.

And in all this there are fans who have been called out by these actors, what about their mental health?

See everyone here agrees trolling is wrong, but what is the way out? If at all the people in the industry are so affected, they all should come out as a unit and make a provision, request to the authorities to take strict action and have a continuous surveillance. That is the only way out. Coming out and telling people Oh dont do it, is not going to help sadly. We as normal fans are giving them an option to not let it bother, to stay away from the negativity, as the TV actor in person has effectively and comfortably ignored the good part of the FD as well, claiming being non SM friendly.

I still believe that it is the trolls who need to be called out and the onus should not be on the those who get trolled. Trolling culture should not be normalised. But I respect your opinion - you are speaking from a different perspective. Well-intentioned advice to the actors to learn to ignore for practical reasons is fine. However, even if people feel the actors are not handling the trolls well - it is the actors' problem, their issue. The large scale attitude of the FD is that he is seeking attention, he is self-victimizing himself or worse - that he is responsible for it.

As for fans who are being called out by the actors - they called out the toxic fans right, those who trolled them? Even otherwise, surely, making a generalized statement against an audience consisting of millions of people is very different from targeting a person individually? How does it affect mental health of the people in the fandom - when they are not being individually, personally targeted - I don't get it. Ayesha has been so fan-friendly - and yet, she is trolled right? In fact, when she was recently diagnosed with COVID, few people were even rejoicing using some twisted tit-for-tat logic. If people don't like an actor, its fine - there is always an option to block them.

It can be so difficult for even cyber crime- because of the sheer number of people who come like an avalanche - not to mention the hostile environment. Few k-pop stars have committed suicide because of trolling. Other k-pop stars, on the other hand, are thriving. It depends on individuals - how much they are able to digest - some may be very sensitive. That is why it is important to call out trolling culture.

Originally posted by: dmohan1288

I still believe that it is the trolls who need to be called out and the onus should not be on the those who get trolled. Trolling culture should not be normalised. But I respect your opinion - you are speaking from a different perspective. Well-intentioned advice to the actors to learn to ignore for practical reasons is fine. However, even if people feel the actors are not handling the trolls well - it is the actors' problem, their issue. The large scale attitude of the FD is that he is seeking attention, he is self-victimizing himself or worse - that he is responsible for it.

As for fans who are being called out by the actors - they called out the toxic fans right, those who trolled them? Even otherwise, surely, making a generalized statement against an audience consisting of millions of people is very different from targeting a person individually? How does it affect mental health of the people in the fandom - when they are not being individually, personally targeted - I don't get it. Ayesha has been so fan-friendly - and yet, she is trolled right? In fact, when she was recently diagnosed with COVID, few people were even rejoicing using some twisted tit-for-tat logic. If people don't like an actor, its fine - there is always an option to block them.

It can be so difficult for even cyber crime- because of the sheer number of people who come like an avalanche - not to mention the hostile environment. Few k-pop stars have committed suicide because of trolling. Other k-pop stars, on the other hand, are thriving. It depends on individuals - how much they are able to digest - some may be very sensitive. That is why it is important to call out trolling culture.

See I never said dont call out the trolls. But the point is it is of no use, considering they will troll you yet again after calling them out in unison and some of your fans will get back to call out the other celebrity you are pitched against within minutes. Its nice to say make the world a better place, but is it honestly possible? No Right? We all need to find our ways to not let things affect our mental peace. Since I am talking about Neil Bhatt specifically, he has self confessed that he is not SM friendly person. Also he has ignored and chose to not acknowledge a lot of good stuffs that has happened with respect to the jodi he makes on screen or the show for that matter, claiming he is not on SM much. He is capable enough to ignore when he wants to, so why not filter out the bad if he can filter out the good ones , you know. There are people who cannot do without it, like his wife, so its fine if she comes and say Oh its bothering me.. In any case if it is affecting one's mental health, my advice would be to stay away honestly, because the khichad cannot be cleaned by jumping on it, it will rather make things even more messier for you, rather by staying away from it. You know one should not jump on these potholes by jumping on it, rather avoid it. And I know Neil is capable of it, he has shown in the past.

About the fans, just because the audience will always be addressed as audience , as a group and not individually, does not mean they dont get affected, they wont feel depressed. There are many who get affected when they are called out for calling the show toxic. There are people who get affected when they keep sending them gifts and cakes and they dont even for once get appreciated on special days. Just because they are not getting targeted individually and we dont know about their side of the story, one cant say oh they are not personally targeted, so they would be fine. My advice to such fans have also been to stay away from getting attached to the actors, when you know they do not acknowledge. You see the thing here is the side of these actors would always be heard, the fans(not trollers) would always be clubbed as fans, who are in bunch and cannot get affected. Their side would always be unheard. But that is also unfair.

They said that their marriage was private moment right then they posted online and give story to website it's all business for them and then complain about trolling..

If you can't hold it private by your self then stop complaining about it..

I know they have fans that's good for them but hold it private you don't need to publish every single story, and then complain about trolling..

Originally posted by: soesila

They said that their marriage was private moment right then they posted online and give story to website it's all business for them and then complain about trolling..

If you can't hold it private by your self then stop complaining about it..

I know they have fans that's good for them but hold it private you don't need to publish every single story, and then complain about trolling..

Jaane do or else you will loose your mind because there are countless mindless stunts can't be finish in one thread .it will take the entire forum 😆