What does Sai understand out of it?

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Posted: 4 years ago
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One more post guys. Can I again request that we keep this conversation healthy? There can always be things that I haven't understood or that I have overlooked which I could correct based on your comments. So I have always liked if someone shares their understanding without bashing any character.

Please note that none of these posts are to offend anyone.

Quite a lot of them are on Sai because of the latest episodes and also these are all long pending ones that I wanted to ask. Another reason being, we have had a lot of discussion about Virat and I have analysed him a lot, his good and bad. I am sure there are a lot more things that I still would not have understood about him.

The reason for these posts are to see or figure out how Sairat's relationship is going to progress and who can do what or who can improve in what. I will be posting a few more in the upcoming days about my take on Sai's feelings/ Virat's expectations and on Virat's reaction in the episode 2 days back.


Coming to this post, what do you guys think as what does Sai understand when Virat supports her against Pakhi? Just like many of you, I also know where Virat went wrong and how he can fix things with Sai, how he should be sharing about his past with Pakhi and as how he should let Sai know as what he thinks about Pakhi. I also know how Virat had let Pakhi come in between him and Sai many a times, how he was responsible for Sai's insecurity.


But I have been thinking for a long time now as everytime when Virat has supported Sai and stood against Pakhi, what do you think Sai has understood it as?

In the past, I believe it would have been understood as right vs wrong. Like in the chilli grinding scene, on the first day of her college, it could be seen by her as if he stood for what was right. Even in the scene where she was denied food, it looked like a right vs wrong scene. Or even during Mohit's food denying scene. But during Mohit's food denying scene, Virat spoke a lot of things for Sai as how Pakhi always taunts Sai, he asked Pakhi what her issues were with Sai. Again, may be they are all only seen as right vs wrong because Pakhi was being unfair with Sai, so Sai thought Virat was questioning Pakhi?


Then came the Ladakh trip track, again everything went wrong and Sai could have misunderstood a lot of things. On the day they were about to travel, Virat supported Sai. He was empathetic towards Sai's pain, her Dad's death and how she would be feeling that she also needs a change just like how Kaku suggested Pakhi needs a change. The way he asked Pakhi what problems she could have if Sai joined them, the way he had said that Sai didn't want to join but he was the one who had asked her to join, what kind of message would these have got conveyed to Sai?

I understand everytime something or the other happens and it all gets messed up. Pakhi's behavior made Sai feel like a 3rd person in Virat's life. And then later when Virat spoke against Sai that evening, she felt that he wasn't that harsh with Pakhi as much as he was with her. He also did not answer her questions when she confronted him.


Then came PD lunch day, Virat stood by Sai and spoke against Pakhi that day too. They both stood against Pakhi as husband and wife. Sai called herself his wife and Virat also supported her asking Pakhi what her problem was if they both were having food in the room. He also said that Sai wasn't wrong and that Sai wasn't insulting Pakhi. How did Sai interpret all these as?


On the day of Mahashivratri too, Virat supported Sai and though he didn't call her his wife, he spoke against Pakhi.


And then when Pakhi entered their room and wanted to talk alone with Virat, he asked her to speak in front of Sai. He asked Sai to not leave the room too. How did Sai interpret it as when Virat asked Pakhi to speak in front of Sai?


And then many things got spoilt when he stood quietly on the day of ousting while Pakhi kept insulting Sai. He even said "How Dare You" when Sai spoke against Pakhi which can be misunderstood, I understand.


Then came the hospital incident when Virat kept calling Sai. He fought with Pakhi asking why she was speaking that way when he himself told her that he wanted to meet Sai in front of Sai. He then fought with Pakhi as why she didn't correct the doctor when they misunderstood her as his wife. He cleared the misunderstanding with the doctor too. He then told Pakhi that it should be her who should leave. He also told Pakhi that he wants Sai to take care of him and held Sai's hand too. How do you think are all of these interpreted as by Sai? I mean, he would have supported Pakhi and fought against Sai during ousting, but if he had feelings for Pakhi, why would he call her his wife again and again? Why did he tell Sai that her name is in the hospital records? What did Sai understand when he said that "Mera mission khatam hote hi mein sirf aur sirf tumhare baarein mein soch raha tha"?

What did Sai understand from whatever happened between him and Pakhi in the hospital?


And then came the confrontation at home. The way Virat confronted his family and Pakhi. Forget his family, how are Virat's discussion with Pakhi interpreted as by Sai? He asked Pakhi why should she have problems if Sai wants to take care of him.

"Sai mere liye apne pati ke liye waapas aayi hai. Usne nhi tumse yahi kaya ki woh mera apne pati ka dhyaan rakhne aayi hai. Jo kuch bhi hua woh baat ek pati aur patni ke beech ki thi jismein kisi teesre ko bolna nahi chahiye kyunki jab pati aur patni ki sulah ho jaathi hai toh teesre insaan mp yahi lagta hai ki uski beizzati hui hai.

Yeh baat humesha yaad rakhna. Kyunki aayinda main nahi chahtha ki tumhe kabhi bhi aisamm mehsoos ho ki tumhari beizzati hui hai.

Jab pati patni ke beech mein jhagda hua hai or sulah bhi ho jaathi hai toh kya yeh khushi ki baat nahi hai?"


Okay, so just like you all I know the entire history.

I know the conditions Virat had set during the marriage. I understand Sai's raised walls. I know how difficult it is for Sai to trust Virat especially after the ousting and because of the way he stands silently whenever Pakhi speaks against Sai.


What I want to know from you all is that how or what does Sai interpret whatever Virat speaks against Pakhi. Ousting happened later but on the day of holi too, Sai had her walls raised when she got Devi dressed up telling that one day or the other she has to leave the house. It is not easy for a person in Sai's position but why do you guys think she is disregarding all the support Virat gives her speaking against Pakhi, especially on the PD lunch day, Mahashivratri day? How do you think she is interpreting all that Virat speaks against Pakhi?


Afte ousting, she will have no trust at all on Virat. She has plans to move out which is fair and quite natural. I also understand that deep within her she actually wants to stay back because she is attached to Virat, but she is not planning to for obvious reasons. Let her not consider to think Virat has feelings for her.

But after whatever he spoke or did in the hospital or at home, why would Sai think Virat has feelings for Pakhi? Any idea? I mean, it is not possible fo forget all the months pain and whatever she saw he or Pakhi had done in the past. It is also quite possible for her to not even believe what he spoke in the hospital or at home. She did look quite surprised whenever he spoke a few things.

But quite a lot of things are only relevant for her to accept her feelings for him, for her to think he has feelings for her or not.

But what makes her think that Virat still has feelings for Pakhi after the recent episodes? She is confused? She didn't believe whatever he spoke against Pakhi? She is thinking Virat is doing it all out of guilt? Or is she thinking that Virat is upset with Pakhi because Sai is proven right with Pulkit's issue?


I am sure he will make a blunder or something will happen in the upcoming episodes that even if she had started to think that he has no feelings for Pakhi, it will all get spoilt.


So, at the moment, do you guys think that Sai would have started or can start to think that Virat has no feelings for Pakhi?

In her "nahi" telling her Mohit relationship is not the same as Virat Pakhi relationship, she only asked Pakhi as "haina Pakhi didi". She knows that Pakhi has feelings for Virat, obviously and Pakhi's feelings were even more evident during the past few encounters.


Please share what you think as how would Sai be interpreting or would have interpreted when Virat spoke against Pakhi (PD, Mahashivratri day, hospital and at home after returning from hospital). I have felt/believed that Sai knows somewhere that Virat doesn't feel for Pakhi, her heart does want her to believe that he has no feelings for Pakhi but how does her brain process all this behavior?


Ps. I request all to not bash any character. Can you please stick to the context of the post? This is only to understand Sai's thought process and not to criticize her or insult her feelings/pain.

Can we please look into it with everyone together who wants to address the Pakhi problem and not as a Sai or Virat supporter? Whoever is wrong, we ultimately need a solution to the problem and it can be understood if we understand the thought process of the person who is suffering due to a third wheel.

Apologies if I am not able to reply to your comments today, might not join the forum today.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Everytime he takes her side instead of pp, something else happens which makes them take 2 steps back. I don't think she's given it too much thought at this point. She recognizes from the beginning that pp n pp supporters manipulate him into spending time with her, etc. But her insecurities stem from his "soft corner" and tolerance for pp until now. Right now i think all Sai sees is that he is guilty and repentant for his behavior with her and has given her a heartfelt apology and he has restricted pp because of possibly that guilt n also because he has probably recognized pp to be a provoker of all arguments/sai hate. So right now thats all Sai n audience see. That behavior of showing pp her aukaat needs to be consistent. If virat starts feeling guilty/sad about pp's condition again then it'll dent Sairat again. Consistency is needed. Only then will Sai truly feel secure that virat has moved on and is not acknowledging her as wife out of guilt/zimmedari/farz.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Nja91

Everytime he takes her side instead of pp, something else happens which makes them take 2 steps back. I don't think she's given it too much thought at this point. She recognizes from the beginning that pp n pp supporters manipulate him into spending time with her, etc. But her insecurities stem from his "soft corner" and tolerance for pp until now. Right now i think all Sai sees is that he is guilty and repentant for his behavior with her and has given her a heartfelt apology and he has restricted pp because of possibly that guilt n also because he has probably recognized pp to be a provoker of all arguments/sai hate. So right now thats all Sai n audience see. That behavior of showing pp her aukaat needs to be consistent. If virat starts feeling guilty/sad about pp's condition again then it'll dent Sairat again. Consistency is needed. Only then will Sai truly feel secure that virat has moved on and is not acknowledging her as wife out of guilt/zimmedari/farz.

@bold hmm, makes sense especially the word provoker


@italics I agree, this is what I too feel that he should do.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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It's always a treat to read your analysis laksh.

I think even if sai understand that virat doesn't have feelings for pakhi she will not going to believe that he might love her because she knows virat will never break his vaada (she believes in virat chavan jyachi pakki jaban) and virat have already told her that he has promised someone (pakhi) he will not love anyone else.

I hope I made sense.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: JhalliAnjali

It's always a treat to read your analysis laksh.

I think even if sai understand that virat doesn't have feelings for pakhi she will not going to believe that he might love her because she knows virat will never break his vaada (she believes in virat chavan jyachi pakki jaban) and virat have already told her that he has promised someone (pakhi) he will not love anyone else.

I hope I made sense.

Thanks for your compliment 😊.

Wow, you have caught what I wanted to say but didn't. That is exactly what I think too might happen if she understands that he doesn't have feelings for Pakhi. She had also given him a vachan that she wouldn't come between his vaada so may be she gets reminded of that too 😒.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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This is a beautiful post laksh. Absolutely loved it❤️

Waise, sorry if I sound a bit off topic, but I seem, that Sai is avoiding understanding. All your reasons that what might be Sai giving a name to this change, are her routes to make herself understand, or more like escape the reality, to make sure she doesn't feel disappointed. As for a person who speaks truth, I don't think that Sai is not able to see truth in Virat's words, or his actions. But, it's already pretty strong in her brain that this is an arrangement, a woman is waiting for her deal waala husband, and her husband also has similar feelings for that woman. She might fear that if she moves forward ignoring one truth, than that truth might come back and slap her on the face. And it will be her part of mistake if something like this happens, cuz she knew reality, but still she went ahead towards the other truth which she desired.

So, she might get it, but she is avoiding it, as long as she can. By pulling the reality, as you mentioned the bhabhi devar relationship, and other instances. And her insecurity of not having a verbal assurity yet from Virat may also seem so the reason.

As see, just thinking a moment as Sai, sorry if I am wrong interpreting here, Sai apne pati ka khayaal rakhne aayi hai, this is the word. She also might get it, but her brain, her sane and serious part will also have a word here, she might get the other meaning, that she considers him her husband, let me say it again, Sai considers Virat her husband, but has Virat rightfully given you that haq or position? Might be her other argument. But, if Virat had used meri patni Apne pati ka khayal rakhne aayi hai, than Voila, Virat said that his wife is rightfully doing her duty, it is her job not cuz it is her zimmedari, but it is her right, which only she has access to over here. So, even if Sai might get the words, until she gets the certificate of assurity, she will pull ways to escape this truth.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Why didn’t Virat tell his parivar what he told Pakhi in the hospital that she need not stay in the hospital to take care. If he said he wanted his wife and not brother’s wife to be with him and that’s why he sent Pakhi home,that would have worked well . Instead he said since Pakhi needed rest he asked her to leave.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Shristhi2002

This is a beautiful post laksh. Absolutely loved it❤️

Waise, sorry if I sound a bit off topic, but I seem, that Sai is avoiding understanding. All your reasons that what might be Sai giving a name to this change, are her routes to make herself understand, or more like escape the reality, to make sure she doesn't feel disappointed. As for a person who speaks truth, I don't think that Sai is not able to see truth in Virat's words, or his actions. But, it's already pretty strong in her brain that this is an arrangement, a woman is waiting for her deal waala husband, and her husband also has similar feelings for that woman. She might fear that if she moves forward ignoring one truth, than that truth might come back and slap her on the face. And it will be her part of mistake if something like this happens, cuz she knew reality, but still she went ahead towards the other truth which she desired.

So, she might get it, but she is avoiding it, as long as she can. By pulling the reality, as you mentioned the bhabhi devar relationship, and other instances. And her insecurity of not having a verbal assurity yet from Virat may also seem so the reason.

As see, just thinking a moment as Sai, sorry if I am wrong interpreting here, Sai apne pati ka khayaal rakhne aayi hai, this is the word. She also might get it, but her brain, her sane and serious part will also have a word here, she might get the other meaning, that she considers him her husband, let me say it again, Sai considers Virat her husband, but has Virat rightfully given you that haq or position? Might be her other argument. But, if Virat had used meri patni Apne pati ka khayal rakhne aayi hai, than Voila, Virat said that his wife is rightfully doing her duty, it is her job not cuz it is her zimmedari, but it is her right, which only she has access to over here. So, even if Sai might get the words, until she gets the certificate of assurity, she will pull ways to escape this truth.

Beautiful reply Shristhi. This explains a lot because we can't go over every dialogue in the past as how Sai would have understood it. But there has always been something lacking that could make her feel assured I guess.

She wouldn't have expected these if he had not told her about any commitment I guess. So his words could make or not make sense depending on what he speaks, her brain could be doing a microscopic analysis. But I think more than it doing an analysis, there hasn't been many words that made an impact to her, that would make her feel like she is the one whom he needs not the other girl.


@bold yeah I have ways understood that. Just wanted to know how she processes when Virat speaks against Pakhi supporting her.


@blue beautifully expressed dear. Looks like it isn't it? Thanks for answering 👍🏼


@red well said, again explained beautifully 👏

So it is going to be this way for a long time now 😒, I don't blame her, have never blamed her for this. Just watched these episodes so wanted to know what impact it would have had on her now. If not for her thinking he feels for her, wanted to know if there are chances that these could have made her think that he has nothing for Pakhi.

He has to assure her or tell her, that is a different thing, jus wondering what is she gathering out of all of these.


How are you feeling now? Sorry if I am asking you and making you feel uncomfortable 🙈.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: laksh

Beautiful reply Shristhi. This explains a lot because we can't go over every dialogue in the past as how Sai would have understood it. But there has always been something lacking that could make her feel assured I guess.

She wouldn't have expected these if he had not told her about any commitment I guess. So his words could make or not make sense depending on what he speaks, her brain could be doing a microscopic analysis. But I think more than it doing an analysis, there hasn't been many words that made an impact to her, that would make her feel like she is the one whom he needs not the other girl.


@bold yeah I have ways understood that. Just wanted to know how she processes when Virat speaks against Pakhi supporting her.


@blue beautifully expressed dear. Looks like it isn't it? Thanks for answering 👍🏼


@red well said, again explained beautifully 👏

So it is going to be this way for a long time now 😒, I don't blame her, have never blamed her for this. Just watched these episodes so wanted to know what impact it would have had on her now. If not for her thinking he feels for her, wanted to know if there are chances that these could have made her think that he has nothing for Pakhi.

He has to assure her or tell her, that is a different thing, jus wondering what is she gathering out of all of these.


How are you feeling now? Sorry if I am asking you and making you feel uncomfortable 🙈.

@bold

Arre, I never would feel uncomfortable, especially with friends, and specially you🤗 #LotsOfLove😘

And i feel very happy when someone cares for me.❤️

Well, speaking of which, I am feeling much better now. Tablets and inhaler are still going on😭But yeah, improvement is definitely there, weakness is also less, but feel still sleepy and sometimes a bit confusion due to all the medications👍🏼

But yeah, my mental stability is coming back atleast🤣

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: ltelidevara

Why didn’t Virat tell his parivar what he told Pakhi in the hospital that she need not stay in the hospital to take care. If he said he wanted his wife and not brother’s wife to be with him and that’s why he sent Pakhi home,that would have worked well . Instead he said since Pakhi needed rest he asked her to leave.

I had written a post about this. Anyway what he spoke was stupid and is totally unwanted. He told that since that was what he had actually told Pakhi in the hospital too. He said that so that she cannot deny it saying he is lying.

But he could have added that he wanted his Sai and no one else to be with him. Don't think he is understands that all of these would make a difference. He is just being too casual about it. Like how he keeps asking mujhe samajh mein nahi aa raha hai. Has he got injured in his head or chest . If he can't understand that, then it only means that he hasn't understood the gravity of the issue. That also means that he is not going to be careful about the words he is using. He would be using words like how he would use in general and not keeping in mind as how Sai or Pakhi is going to perceive it. It is all a closed topic for him but unfortunately it isn't and I am not sure how he thinks it is.

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