Chavan Khandaan Ka 'chalta hai' attitude for 'sach chhupao'... - Page 2

The way they are handling this track is horrible. They could have done so much better because so far all there family drama's were too good but devi-pulkit track is being rushed unnecessarily and too much of repetitive dialogues as well and no proper Sairat scenes too..at this point the show looks average to me. They need to buck up and strength there scenes and dialogue delivery. It's a good show, I hope they work on there script.

Other than devi tai- Sai scene.. episode felt forced😕 logic, questions, crime sab jaaye tel lene.. hum chavans saath saath hai🙄 Yeh Veeru ko ACP kisne banaya? No outburst whatsoever for constant threats that Devi tai was talking about.

Fast forwarded our PaaKu scene.. just can’t stand it.. mujhe aap par pura bharosa hai kaku.. nonsense. Pattharlekha as woman has hit new low 🥳

So Mitali Naag in her interview said she is waiting for Devi and Bk’s emotional reunion.. wonder what is going on?

Hi Janaki

It was not a well directed episode

So pulkit n Devyani studied in the same college .. now pulkit can be doing bachelors of science .. and trying to get Into medicine .. is a plausible scenario

everybody not so bright as our sayi bai ..

But it’s very very clear the elders did crime to stop them and are definitely not on board for the new set of wedding .. so shouldn’t they get legal help ..and put an FIR on Kaku , ninad that they cannot harm the wedding

Devi n Sai both know that they will try to harm the wedding

Even Shivani , Mansi know and have voiced it ..

ninad has said he will not let the wedding happen

than what the heck is virat still doing

If sayi wants virat to support her totally she has to tell him everything.. how she met pulkit , how did she come to know

Apprehensions regarding Harini madhvi ..

How is she hiding harini from virat ..

I was totally put off by Kaku ka cruel face so skipped her scenes with pakhi

Great post! Always gives us food for thought.

It was such a 'put together' episode with bits and pieces. What a waste of a good, impactful track!

Virat looked preoccupied. I wonder if he's processing the events, his family and trying to make sense of it. Maybe he will react later. Couldn't the dialogue have one line..that what they did was not legal or some kind of disappointment..or was he also thinking of the wedding preparations?!😆

Sai Devyani scene ❤️..

Pakhi is really one of the most malicious characters..no spine, and ultimately no values that she stands for. We were wondering if Pakhi and Virat would've been happy, given that she ticks all the right boxes. I don't think so. Virat for all his pendulum behaviour, shares more in common with Sai.

Great analysis Janki. Did not have much expectations from today's episode. As expected it was a kind of filler episode only. Not mentioning about Harini was a big disappointment in today's episode.

I am surprised that even Devi did not talk about her child. I guess she remembers that she had a baby. Why she did not talk about the baby when she met her husband. Hope atleast Sai informs Virat about Harini. It would be totally wrong from her part if she didn't inform him especially when he is so supportive of the marriage.

And again no confrontation about Ninad raising hand against Sai. If not in front of everyone atleast when only the four of them where there Virat could have shown his anger. He could have given a warning to his father that this should never happen again.

Hope atleast in tomorrow's episode they show a proper conversation between Virat and Sai.

BTW, Maharashtrian weddings have baaraat and all ..that too groom on ghoda?? Isn't it a big blooper? I can understand mehendi etc because nowadays every wedding has them.

Originally posted by: AnjuRish

As per Hindu marriage act unless their Marriage has been registered it is not valid. Even now remarriage in is not valid since devu tai consent is not valid since she is not of sound mind.

So long as the marriage has been solemnized according to Hindu rituals and meet all the necessary legal validities like the couple being Hindu adults of sound mind without any undissolved past marriage, it is 'socially' valid and can be upheld and registered at any time. The registration is a legal process and in the eyes of law, a marriage is invalid unless registered. In 2006, Supreme Court of India made it mandatory for all marriages to be registered, but even if they aren't and unless they run into some kind of trouble where 'law' is involved, they are considered socially valid.

Harini I hope is legally adopted by her father to validate her parent since their marriage is not legal

Their marriage is valid and so Harini is a legitimate child. But if she was given away to an orphanage as Bhavani claimed, the chances of her having a valid birth certificate with names of both parents is almost impossible and you're right that let's hope that Pulkit has followed the process and 'adopted' her in that case or been able to prove that he is the biological father -- it would depend on the story they tell us about how he found Harini -- whether it was before she was given away at an orphanage or after. It is easier for them to show that he found her before she went to the orphanage with help of hospital staff and so there was no need to have "proof" and adoption and Bhavani is unaware that the child never went to the orphanage...

Yes what u said about Ashwini and Virat not really getting confrontational until pushed to the wall are classic people pleasers.

Great analysis. Last week and this week j have skipped most episodes due to some trying circumstances in my fam.

hope nothing serious with you

Originally posted by: jankiraghav

Good morning sisterhood! 🌺🌼🌄🌻🌺

Chavan Khandaan has no connection with spashtha in communication. The quality rubs off on anyone who's attached to them in any way, eventually, and especially in the most needed moments -- if that is what we are to believe instead of blaming it on the poor execution and the repeated undermining of audience's intelligence.

It was an episode that has established all the loose ends in the story that could have been easily joined and the drama avoided but no, miscommunication and half truths is the forte of anyone breathing air in Chavan niwas. Also, miscommunication Nahi Hoga to heroine par blame kaise aayega? The whole episode looked so forced - as if to buy the day of the week.

Why did Sai, Pulkit or even Devyani not speak of the child? I understand Devyani's state of mind but she's mentioned it earlier but she didn't want to tell Pulkit is a bit strange especially when she mentioned "Tumhari toh Shaadi ho gayi hai aur ek bachcha bhi hai"... He denied both the things. Since the scene lasted over three days in real-time 🥴 it was expected that this question will be answered but no, both Sai and Pulkit let it go.

The entire issue has been taken so casually -- the whole family accepting Pulkit's claim of the 'marriage' and also brushing aside the possibility of a crime that occurred years ago by just saying, "Vahini Galti Sudhaar lo"... A typical trait of the family to not probe, get into details and question... Their chalta hai attitude is the bottom of the toxicity that they live in.

There was no reaction from anyone to Devyani's "Humein maar dalenge!"??? No confrontation? I thought after Pulkit leaves, Virat would question the three Dil Ke acche Ghar ke bade about the threat Devyani is speaking of, especially since he asked Sai to take Devyani away. But no, the "dhoom dhaam se marriage" has been decided in a matter of minutes without even sitting down to resolve the issues. What makes anyone think that the trio will not obstruct the wedding (only Sai did)?

But this is how the Chavans plan their weddings -- khade, khade, in a matter of moments, for immediate execution without considering anything from the background or past. The moment there is a wedding possible, it is decided that it will happen😳... And they will still be ready with colour coordinated clothes for all functions that will begin the same evening 😂🤣

No one wants to know details... The child in the picture was such an important mention in the story. How does one explain that no one knows yet except Sai... So is the daughter going to come as a wedding surprise for Devyani? 🙄 It might have come from the wrong mouth but the question Omkar and Ninad asked was ironically pertinent -- what were you doing for ten years? So Raha tha kya?

This should have been asked by Virat or Ashwini instead of :"tum Devyani ko aaj hi le jaana chahte ho?"

Why wouldn't the Tai ki Khushi chahne wale not want to do a background check on Pulkit to tie the loose ends and also for reassurance that things are indeed viable. (I know, I know serial hai but this is precisely why it took me also dus saal to watch one😒)

And Pulkit's need to constantly repeat that it is Sai who brought him? He said it at least half a dozen times... Why can't he say he self invited himself. So the ground for throwing Sai off the flight without a parachute has been set? 🙄😐😑

And IPS officer actually replying to Vedi Vahini's out-of-context question about biwi ka Saath dena, Ghar walon ke khilaaf Hona with a lame "Devi Tai ko unke faisle lene dete Hain"... 🙄😯😳 As a law enforcer, doesn't he know that in the present state and circumstances, Devyani is legally invalid take her own decisions especially in marriage and her biological mother -- unfortunately Bhavani -- has the first right on this issue and it is extremely important to get her on board or at least discuss. What loose writing and really makes me wonder why even attempt to write a story if you can't spin it around facts. If you have to ignore facts like they don't exist then might as well write children's fiction 😑😑 Patralekha's question was so irrelevant and forced in that moment. It was as if she had to be shown asking that question. It had no value addition to the scene. The sloppy writing is ignoring the aspect of viewer fatigue giving the same kind of reactions and dialogues to the characters. This track can even have Patralekha show some layers but no.

So coming to the three defining scenes from a loose episode:

1. Bhavani and Susheel bahu

It was significant how openly Bhavani spoke of the back story to Patralekha -- of course, it has to be only the half truth but the fact that she revealed the secret of the child is a sign that Bhavani does know for sure that Vedi vahini owes allegiance to her and will not out her secret.

Bhavani is not yet aware that the child being spoken of is with Pulkit or that he's aware about the presence of a child so her sharing with Patralekha means that the blind support she has been giving Badi Mami has actually earned her some amount of trust. It also means that Bhavani knows very well the motivations of Vahini and she's giving her a bait to continue being on her side... There is more on this scene coming tomorrow I guess but it is definitely the moment where Patralekha will make the conscious choice to silence her conscience.

So far, Patralekha's value system has been questioned and dismissed as her selfish reasons to put down Sai but this time, the 'offer' that Bhavani is set to present her will need her to go beyond the scope of superficial support, beyond her own selfish need and cross over to the dark side. Because this choice she has to make comes with collateral damage -- while her own motivation for doing this would be to eliminate Sai from her path to Virat, as she sees it, the act she will perform will also damage Devyani and Pulkit who have done nothing to harm her. Patralekha has no grudges against them either but in doing what Bhavani asks her to do, she will end up creating victims out of those who come in the way.

For years, there has been a debate in criminology over the 'soundness of the mind of a criminal'... Because some very soft hearted experts feel that many criminals do not commit a crime out of free will but because they are thrown into situations that overwhelm their thinking capacities. Of course, courts only consider those with seriously medically diagnosed and proven mental illnesses as being 'unfit' to be punished, but it just made me think how one's mind can actually create illusions that make you feel you are a 'victim' and so your action will be justified.

Here, in her own delusional world, Patralekha is a victim -- how many times can this man to against his family for a woman he claims to have married in distress? He is the same man who refused to go against his family for his so called love... Why did he do this to me? It is because this woman has influenced him in ways to drive him away from me-- her anger is actually against Virat but her hallucinating mind still sees him as her own possession that she has to acquire. So in her own mind the only person who she needs to eliminate (harm/prove wrong) is Sai.

Added to the delusion is Bhavani's ego pump-- ek tum hi ho jo hum sabke baare mein sochti ho, parivaar ka bhala, Susheel bahu, zimmedar-- tum hi ho jo Khandaan ki izzat mitti mein Milne se bacha Sakti ho. Which human being does not get high on power and praise? Especially one who is looking for latches to continue to believe that they hold importance in the place they stand.

It would be so interesting if she is shown as being shrewd and trying to kill two birds with one stone -- keeping Bhavani in her good books but using this as a chance to win over Virat's trust which is visibly depleting.. but no, it won't be so let's not hope.🙆

Bhavani skipping the marriage and making Patralekha believe that Devyani was the bin byahi maa is what the plot will turn into ? To make Virat believe that Pulkit abandoned her when she was pregnant?

>> Again our vahini does not mind if a child is taken away from her mother, i mean seriously. Are you blind by your obsession that you would do anything to take down Sai. Thats what i see and i dont know what to say.

2. Sai and Devyani

Needless to say, the scene tugged heartstrings -- two women with sister souls, who have been almost facing the same fate: the loss of a father, 'absent' husbands, condemnation by so-called family, being surrounded by people who don't really care about their existence, possibly lack of hope of finding the happiness on their own, and their own protective "mental walls" to deal with the situations they are in. There is such a connection at such a deep level -- both Devyani and Sai also believe that their respective 'husband' is committed to another woman.

But for Devyani, Sai's willpower and fondness for justice has helped find the light at the end of the tunnel faster. It would be so beautiful if it is indeed Devyani, who eventually also shows Sai the light at the end of her tunnel -- by making her read in between the jalebis that will continue to be served to her 🤦. The mention of Aapke Bhai Aapke Saath Hain should have meant Virat and Mohit both -- karishma and Mohit genuinely looked happy in the moment when Devyani broke into the dance with Pulkit.

The conversation was so beautiful- for the first time they spoke of their fathers. Of course, Sai's memories of Aaba are always tear jerking but her mention of the specific 'wedding celebrations' was such a deep emotion. It brought back the questions that we discussed a few days ago -- would Kamal Joshi have wanted Sai to be in a marriage with the kind of arrangement Virat and Sai have? Which father would want his daughter to have a 'namesake' husband? Isn't it true that marriage was really not on her mind and so she doesn't really give her relationship with Virat priority? Does poori zimmedari nibhana not include emotional happiness and wellbeing too? If it does, which woman would be emotionally happy and content knowing that her marriage is a deal of five years and her husband is 'committed' to another woman?

Devyani's " tum meri Shaadi mein Apne Baba Ka Sapna poora Kar dena " was so cute .. it almost sounded like Devyani telling Virat and Sai to also marry all over again 😂

>> I mean whats the point of that scene so that the audience can connect, as dont think they plan to show any light hearted moments in the show. So not sure if they would even think of showing a wedding sequence.

@Bold - It did feel like but the way are executing nothing is making any sense.

3. The family in conversation:

It wasn't exactly the moment but there was something about the fact that only Ninad Chavan's immediate family was in a conversation. Although he was the one being questioned, the fact that it was only the four of them in the frame was very significant. It was the first time there was no external member involved.

The whole scene actually felt badly executed because such an important conversation and confrontation cannot happen with one member turning his back to the rest -- it was so badly done. But nonetheless, it is perhaps a peek into the day to come when Ninad will sober up and be part of a 'family' talk.

The only reason why the scene was watch worthy was because it really did show how Ashwini deals with issues where Ninad is being confronted. She can pick a fight between them and disagree with him but she did not want Virat and Sai to question Ninad. He was evading the answers anyway and Virat was totally subdued throughout the scenes where he could have asked questions and sought details. But Ashwini was uncomfortable about Virat confronting his father even at such an important moment. She did not want Sai to respond impolitely to Ninad or have the argument escalate between the father and son, thus cutting it with, "Humein pata Nahi tha unki Shaadi huyi hai"... But it was evident a while ago that Ninad knew, didn't he? So what was the need for Ashwini to cover up for Ninad?

It must signify how Ashwini has dealt with the situations through her life, conditioning Virat to not question until it's impossible to keep the head above the water. She has been instrumental in building the facade of a father for Virat and combined with the little love Ninad would have for his son during his moments of obedience and being the chaheeta beta, Virat would not have found it difficult to idolise his father.

A must mention for Mansi's surprising support to Devyani and indirectly to the other half of the family that is opposed to Makad Sena always 😅 I had no hopes that she would speak earlier than next year but she surprised again. Isse jyada ummeed Nahi rakhni hai Mansi bua se 😂

There is a lot left to be desired and closed in this track.

A private room chat between navra baiko is needed to iron things out - right from her need to go alone, to the mention of Harini and her premonition that Bhavani will plan something sinister..

>> I dont even know what chat would these Navra Baiko would have, I mean the scene between the 4 of them could have been executed better, par nahi effort kon dalega.

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Sai and Devyani's talk about the unfulfilled desires got me thinking: isn't it true that the fulfillment of one desire always leaves us with another bunch of desires that one wants to fulfill?

One of the great challenges of life is to have the grace and resolve to live with the inward conflict that some of our deepest desires may not be met due to various reasons -- being grateful for what life has offered refsdles is one way to grow out of the attachment to the unfulfilled desires while keeping hope alive for receiving it best gifts...

Or then, one can become fatalistic like Vedi vahini and try to treat the unfulfilled desires as the justification for rage, envy and revenge that eventually lead to painful suffering and irreparable damage.

But "hope" lies in being able to smell the aroma of the coffee that life is brewing for us ☕☕☕☕☕ which would be different from someone's cup of tea 🍵🍵🍵🍵🍵 but things that do go well with both are muffins cookies and exchange of thoughts.

Throwing the big arm hugs your way 🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗 and of course also tossing hearts ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ to keep you going today🌷🌷

Lots of love

❤️J

Afternoon sister, I take a bow to you for having the courage and patience to watch the episode and explain it in a beautiful manner. For people like me it makes the episode watchable.

Like you said, todays episode had many loose ends and i think the execution/editing is going down the drain with each passing episode. I am on the verge of loosing interest and its not because I want to see Sai-Virat scenes, arey par showcase something with which we can connect.

I have started to feel, even the creative have no idea what to do with other characters. His brain only works in case Sai-Virat (in a weird way at times). If I am not wrong this is the first track (i will not include Shivani Bua track) wherein the focus is on someone else and they have made a mess out of it. The execution could have been better, but understand that they had to build a base. Which has been built very badly. I am not sure how these guys are going to handle the separation part.

I dont even know if i want to watch further. They have not even crossed 150 episodes and they have going down hill with the execution. Aage ka pata nahi.

Originally posted by: scarlett22

Great post! Always gives us food for thought.

It was such a 'put together' episode with bits and pieces. What a waste of a good, impactful track!

Virat looked preoccupied. I wonder if he's processing the events, his family and trying to make sense of it. Maybe he will react later. Couldn't the dialogue have one line..that what they did was not legal or some kind of disappointment..or was he also thinking of the wedding preparations?!😆

Sai Devyani scene ❤️..

Pakhi is really one of the most malicious characters..no spine, and ultimately no values that she stands for. We were wondering if Pakhi and Virat would've been happy, given that she ticks all the right boxes. I don't think so. Virat for all his pendulum behaviour, shares more in common with Sai.

@bold

To me, Virat seemed to be in some discomfort - food-poisoning, I guess? Or was it acidity?

Whatever it was, he was pretty 'angry' with his mom and dad - did they deliberately feed him unhygenic food , he complained politely

Rest of the family were having a 'huge' argument over what should be the colour of choice for Devyani's upcoming wedding. All because of that jungli mulgi who sprang this sudden surprise at them. How were they going to find colour-coordinated outfits at such short notice? And Virat...you are supporting your wife in this also?

P.S. Seriously, pathetic writing