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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sairat

I do not agree with you , yyyy and Fruitcustard on this..

Virat is a grey character, I understand but his limitation is he becomes blind when it comes to his family..

I see no other reason to harbour respect for his abusive father and call his snobbish family "Dil ke Acche"


If as you guys are pointing; Sai involved him in this what do you think had been his first reaction ..because believe it or not as confessed by Niel himself "Virat is a Pendulum"

He would have gone to BK to ask if she knew Pulkit because uske gharwale kyun jhoot bolenge??

We all know BK :"Jhoot jitni unchi aawaz mei bola jaaye; toh woh sach ban jaata hai"


Do you guys honestly think BK and gang would habe confessed to their crimes and lost the Chaheeta Beta.. they would have made evil out of Pulkit's character who has misguided Sai or would have used this opportunity to cast Sai out anyways...


Whom do you think Virat would have believed Sai or his "Dil ke ache gharwale"??


He has stood with Sai only on occasions where he had proof; or he was guilty...


Otherwise his family is and will always come first..


So if Sai acc to you guys have included Virat in the plan first she would have been snubbed as Nasamajh; Bachhi; Immature compare this to the whole sena she is against;

Let alone coming ; Pulkit might have beared more brunt..because Virat can be easily manipulated and its a well known fact ; woh toh abhi halke halke ishq ke khumar mei hai ACP saab toh gharwale easily manipulate nhi kar paa rahe kyunki fights ka topic Sai hai ; agar Devi Tai hogi his family is always right!!!


Originally posted by: Svt611

Actually even though I would have wanted sai to tell Virat after reading your view I think what you said was correct but in the other hand she could have involved aai, or asked aai for direction... aai has always supported her in a very healthy manner.

the other point I agree with is that kaku knows Sai is the sun..


Originally posted by: Diya_Abhilasha

I agree with sairat about chavans family.May be CN family will say yes they loved each other but pulkit did not want to marry devyani and ran away. Due to pulkit devyani was in this condition. Then virat will punch pulkit on his face. And will blast sai for misunderstanding CN family.

But there is one option-

Sai can take devyani out of CN house with the help of virat and make devyani - pulkit meet each other. Then devyani may tell the truth to them. But bringing devyani out of CN house is a big task for them. And convincing virat that whatever pulkit said was true without confrontation with kakusmiley39

Originally posted by: ltelidevara

Very good analysis but disagree with the part Reg Sai informing Virat about Pulkit. I totally agree with Sairat on this. Same thoughts.

Originally posted by: Sairat

Not possible have you seen how BK keeps Devyani in a toght vigil, and who are we kidding...

Sairat are normal and adult and a couple and they cannot go out together without a confrontation in zillat arena add Devyani to the mix!!!

Do you think they will even make it to the hall.

For the past 10 years Devyani is confined and jailed to the house.


What a dream discussion this is! I am absolutely excited for this now. What better than having a healthy disagreement. So @Sairat @Svt611 (aapka naam batana chaho toh please batana) @Diya_Abhilasha @Lakshmi, I am putting forth my side of the reason why I don't side with Sai completely keeping Virat out of the loop. And by that I don't mean that she should have jumped to tell him everything before gathering details -- but at least now, that the storm is coming towards Chakram Niwas.


I completely understand with the point you all are making about the fact that the Makad Gang, led by a very cold-hearted Bhavani (as she seems), who did not really bother about her own daughter's mental health, happiness or life would definitely have answers, alibis and other manipulations ready to divert the attention of anyone questioning her.

@Svt611: Agree that Bhavani knows Sai is the danger because it is Sai who would go all out to find the truth-- because Bhavani knows Sai has no vested interest or attachment or allegiance to anyone in that house to fear any loss (that was when Bhavani made that comment) and so no one can stop her from finding the truth or fighting for it. A person who has nothing to lose is the most dangerous opponent. Now, Sai does have something to lose too- Virat. But Sai either doesn't think she will lose Virat or she doesn't think it would make any difference.


But, here is my perspective of why Sai is wrong. It's not because she hasn't told Virat anything yet. She has already admitted that she will tell him everything at the right time. She is wrong today because Pulkit has decided to visit the house and Sai knows the reason. Instead of confiding in Virat and trying to get him on the side, she is going to set off another bomb there --leaving Virat totally at a loss, shocked and cornered by the Makad Gang about how Sai is meddling in the affairs of the family where she shouldn't. I am not sure if Ashwini knows anything or would have been of any help -- i get a feeling she doesn't know. She would not be someone who would join secret keeping about a baby being snatched from a mother - so I don't think Sai could have asked Ashwini for help.

We are all making statements about Sai being right from our "righteous" perspectives as a viewer and on that count, I agree that it is only Sai who can unite Pulkit and Devyani and not Virat. If Virat had spent even 10% of the time that Sai has spent understanding his family, he would have already known a lot more about the members than he does... So Sai is the only hope Devyani has.


But my analysis of the situation or the circumstances is as a neutral person. Virat does not have the courage to question the family about things that have been passed on for years as "kayda, niyam, usool, anushashan" unless it is for something that is directly in conflict with his personal value system or reasoning. He will 110% fall for the story the Makad Sena tells him about Devyani at first. But Rome was not built in a day... Virat is hesitant about confronting his family but he is not a fool. He needs time to process and understand. And Sai should have asked Pulkit to give her that time. Bring the entire picture out in front of him slowly. He might deny it, they might fight but ultimately, he is not someone who will turn a blind eye to the facts once they are brought to his notice. It would take time and hard work to do it that way but Sai can be assured that once Virat is convinced about the truth, he will not back out for anyone. Did she not see how he stood his ground in the Shivani case even though the family did not want him to proceed with booking the fraudster? He did, he did it legally. More than the manipulation of the family, it is completely illegal for Sai to do what she is doing. She definitely has no business to interfere in the life of Virat's cousin without knowing the whole story and not taking even one person from the family into confidence.

@pink: I think Sai lacks basic trust in Virat. She does think that he will not side with her on this case. But what she is failing to realise is that he will never side with the unjust if he can "See" the facts. I am not sure if they would have been able to take Devyani out but Virat does have the influence on the Makad Sena that no one else has ... they could have tried if they were one team.


@green: It is unfortunate that Devyani has suffered so much but we cannot deny the facts that have been presented to us: Devyani is not of a sound mind. She might have been wronged, forced to turn into a mental case, confined but the fact is that Bhavani is her "legal" caretaker. If Sai and Pulkit cannot prove the previous wedding, Virat would have all the legal options to have Pulkit arrested. It is clearly told in one of the flashback scenes that Pulkit and Devyani did not have a legal document to prove their wedding-- today he said they married in a temple. But he must have some proof? Some pictures of them... Harini's birth certificates, her story-- Do you think Virat would not believe all the truth? It would take time but to dismiss the option of getting him on board -- and he is the most important link to actually successfully unite this couple -- is foolish. You cannot make a decision for someone's life-- and that too, an incapacitated person, who is not in the sound state of mind to give his or her own consent just because you are in a hurry to wrap up the issue. If they waited for so many years... why not a few more days to do it well...

Now, she has found Pulkit and Pulkit has found Devyani and both of them cannot wait to just execute the unavoidable union. But it is wrong in many ways -- We know that Bhavani and her stooges have separated the couple but Sai doesn't know the whole story either. She is going by her instinct. And it is right, which we as viewers know. But what if her assumption was to be wrong and there was indeed another side to the story? It would be as foolish as she was when she assumed Madhuri was Pulkit's wife.

The reason why this hasty decision of bringing Devyani and Pulkit face to face is because Sai is impatient. Pulkit's impatience is understandable but he's the one who knows what is he going to be up against. And I find his approach to this extremely selfish, given that he knows a lot about Sai's marriage to Virat and how it can really ruin her life. He knows what the Chavans are capable of. He could have actually asked Sai to seek Virat's help, knowing that they would ultimately need to take help of law.

At the end of the day, we are debating a track that has been introduced setting aside all logic 😆 We also know that ultimately he will side her despite not being in the loop from the beginning.

Do all you think that once Virat learns about the truth, he will still believe the Makad Gang? I don't think so. Sai has not even tried. That is the problem.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Also to add: What if Devyani disowns Pulkit and says something out of fear that he will be harmed? Will that not go completely against Sai and Pulkit anyway? And will Virat be wrong in believing Devyani (and the concocted story of the family)?

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Very nicely put Janaki


I have not got that involved with Devyani or pulkit to analyse what they feel ..


Maybe because Devyani is mentally unstable


I found ur point quite interesting that .. they have made Chavan totally black

But what if sayi is mistaken .. what if pulkit was a cad .. and was cheating Devyani.., he took money from Chavans and ran away .. Devyani was left pregnant and Kaku hid the pregnancy.. then she gave up the baby secretly for adoption


In this process’s her 2 loyal devars helped her .. and nobody in famiky knows


Devyani lost her mental balance .. and only blames Kaku



This experience hardened Kaku over10 years and she became more and more cruel


Story wise wouldn’t sayi be wrong ..

just because Kaku gang treat her badly she has given the benefit of doubt to pulkit Sir


Whatever the case maybe .. she should take her husband’s help and not do it in her own


Mohit ka part was the much needed comic relief .. why did pakhi mom come .. her coming and giving sweets and bringing Mansi bua ..added nothing to the story



Maybe they hired her for a day .. and added some filler scenes ..


But they could have utilised to show Harini interacting with sayi ..


They should build some comic relief around Mohit karishma .. both are decent actors



From next week we will have 3 couples in the picture SaiRat , Mohit karishma and devi pulkit with their baby girl



And sayi has become a mami .. no more the youngest in the house ..


Her favourite sister in law has a daughter ..


I hope they had some scenes of sayi virat bonding with Harini ..




Arey I am now seeing the above discussions .. let me add in the a while

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Thank you Janaki for elaborately explaining your perspective in response to our take on Sai not taking Virat into confidence. It really helped to understand the reason why you said so.

My reasons are same for concurring with Sairat on this issue. My main reason I admit is my lack of trust in Virat and his stand related to anything connected with his family. I simply can not completely trust him in this matter. He might be with Sai or with his family,he is unpredictable.

Thanks again for such a beautiful reply.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Diya_Abhilasha

I agree with sairat about chavans family.May be CN family will say yes they loved each other but pulkit did not want to marry devyani and ran away. Due to pulkit devyani was in this condition. Then virat will punch pulkit on his face. And will blast sai for misunderstanding CN family.


But there is one option-


Sai can take devyani out of CN house with the help of virat and make devyani - pulkit meet each other. Then devyani may tell the truth to them. But bringing devyani out of CN house is a big task for them. And convincing virat that whatever pulkit said was true without confrontation with kaku🤪


Well in KD version Pulkit announced that he is Devyani's husband where he was alleged that he wants to stay in CN, Pulkit said no he has no wish to stay there but now that he is a doctor it is very easy for him to understand Devyani's condition and he will come anytime to visit devyani as a doctor,

Obviously they asked him to leave this and also abused Said for her actions that is when Virat supported Sai and took the decision of getting them married.


Now lets come to the difference of both stories that is one Devyani there was bua of Virat and most imply everyone knew about pulkit including Virat except the bahus that is karishma, pakhi that pulkit is devyani's husband and another big difference was about harini. these differences in story is where cv's can bring the good twist as we know how did Pulkit get her hands on Harini is biggest secret if you have to deny the which was fabricated by pakhi and kaku. they can simply bring HARINI IN THE PICTURE.


Now this is where i am expecting cv's creativity if they have one, to make it an interesting plot

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: jankiraghav




What a dream discussion this is! I am absolutely excited for this now. What better than having a healthy disagreement. So @Sairat @Svt611 (aapka naam batana chaho toh please batana) @Diya_Abhilasha @Lakshmi, I am putting forth my side of the reason why I don't side with Sai completely keeping Virat out of the loop. And by that I don't mean that she should have jumped to tell him everything before gathering details -- but at least now, that the storm is coming towards Chakram Niwas.


I completely understand with the point you all are making about the fact that the Makad Gang, led by a very cold-hearted Bhavani (as she seems), who did not really bother about her own daughter's mental health, happiness or life would definitely have answers, alibis and other manipulations ready to divert the attention of anyone questioning her.

@Svt611: Agree that Bhavani knows Sai is the danger because it is Sai who would go all out to find the truth-- because Bhavani knows Sai has no vested interest or attachment or allegiance to anyone in that house to fear any loss (that was when Bhavani made that comment) and so no one can stop her from finding the truth or fighting for it. A person who has nothing to lose is the most dangerous opponent. Now, Sai does have something to lose too- Virat. But Sai either doesn't think she will lose Virat or she doesn't think it would make any difference.


But, here is my perspective of why Sai is wrong. It's not because she hasn't told Virat anything yet. She has already admitted that she will tell him everything at the right time. She is wrong today because Pulkit has decided to visit the house and Sai knows the reason. Instead of confiding in Virat and trying to get him on the side, she is going to set off another bomb there --leaving Virat totally at a loss, shocked and cornered by the Makad Gang about how Sai is meddling in the affairs of the family where she shouldn't. I am not sure if Ashwini knows anything or would have been of any help -- i get a feeling she doesn't know. She would not be someone who would join secret keeping about a baby being snatched from a mother - so I don't think Sai could have asked Ashwini for help.

We are all making statements about Sai being right from our "righteous" perspectives as a viewer and on that count, I agree that it is only Sai who can unite Pulkit and Devyani and not Virat. If Virat had spent even 10% of the time that Sai has spent understanding his family, he would have already known a lot more about the members than he does... So Sai is the only hope Devyani has.


But my analysis of the situation or the circumstances is as a neutral person. Virat does not have the courage to question the family about things that have been passed on for years as "kayda, niyam, usool, anushashan" unless it is for something that is directly in conflict with his personal value system or reasoning. He will 110% fall for the story the Makad Sena tells him about Devyani at first. But Rome was not built in a day... Virat is hesitant about confronting his family but he is not a fool. He needs time to process and understand. And Sai should have asked Pulkit to give her that time. Bring the entire picture out in front of him slowly. He might deny it, they might fight but ultimately, he is not someone who will turn a blind eye to the facts once they are brought to his notice. It would take time and hard work to do it that way but Sai can be assured that once Virat is convinced about the truth, he will not back out for anyone. Did she not see how he stood his ground in the Shivani case even though the family did not want him to proceed with booking the fraudster? He did, he did it legally. More than the manipulation of the family, it is completely illegal for Sai to do what she is doing. She definitely has no business to interfere in the life of Virat's cousin without knowing the whole story and not taking even one person from the family into confidence.

@pink: I think Sai lacks basic trust in Virat. She does think that he will not side with her on this case. But what she is failing to realise is that he will never side with the unjust if he can "See" the facts. I am not sure if they would have been able to take Devyani out but Virat does have the influence on the Makad Sena that no one else has ... they could have tried if they were one team.


@green: It is unfortunate that Devyani has suffered so much but we cannot deny the facts that have been presented to us: Devyani is not of a sound mind. She might have been wronged, forced to turn into a mental case, confined but the fact is that Bhavani is her "legal" caretaker. If Sai and Pulkit cannot prove the previous wedding, Virat would have all the legal options to have Pulkit arrested. It is clearly told in one of the flashback scenes that Pulkit and Devyani did not have a legal document to prove their wedding-- today he said they married in a temple. But he must have some proof? Some pictures of them... Harini's birth certificates, her story-- Do you think Virat would not believe all the truth? It would take time but to dismiss the option of getting him on board -- and he is the most important link to actually successfully unite this couple -- is foolish. You cannot make a decision for someone's life-- and that too, an incapacitated person, who is not in the sound state of mind to give his or her own consent just because you are in a hurry to wrap up the issue. If they waited for so many years... why not a few more days to do it well...

Now, she has found Pulkit and Pulkit has found Devyani and both of them cannot wait to just execute the unavoidable union. But it is wrong in many ways -- We know that Bhavani and her stooges have separated the couple but Sai doesn't know the whole story either. She is going by her instinct. And it is right, which we as viewers know. But what if her assumption was to be wrong and there was indeed another side to the story? It would be as foolish as she was when she assumed Madhuri was Pulkit's wife.

The reason why this hasty decision of bringing Devyani and Pulkit face to face is because Sai is impatient. Pulkit's impatience is understandable but he's the one who knows what is he going to be up against. And I find his approach to this extremely selfish, given that he knows a lot about Sai's marriage to Virat and how it can really ruin her life. He knows what the Chavans are capable of. He could have actually asked Sai to seek Virat's help, knowing that they would ultimately need to take help of law.

At the end of the day, we are debating a track that has been introduced setting aside all logic 😆 We also know that ultimately he will side her despite not being in the loop from the beginning.

Do all you think that once Virat learns about the truth, he will still believe the Makad Gang? I don't think so. Sai has not even tried. That is the problem.


Hey sister, i felt like responding on this one first instead of the analysis. Then i will go back to that. As always awesome analysis and some right questions asked. Will answer them there.

I love the discussion which is going on currently, and I want to be a devil's advocate while logically I do agree with your points and in an ideal scenario Sai should tell Virat about what's about to explode. But before that is she even aware what is about to explode, she has only heard both the side of the story but she is far from the truth. She does not know what the actual truth is. So what is she going to tell Virat, she tried asking but he does not even believe that his sister is married (when she keeps on saying) so how does she convince him. So what's the best opportunity she has got bring both of them face to face and see how it goes. Is she skeptical, she is of course and she was not very keen when Pulkit said I will come to your house.

She is just welcoming the professor home, but letting the story come out in open on its own. Surely the people in the house are not going to be happy with that scene and they are going to react. Its up to Virat what he sees and then what he believes. He could actually side with his family and consider Pulkit a fraud and throw him out, but that is after listening to the information which happens right in front of him.

With Sai telling him (however logical it may be, its ITV so no logic there) the only thing which might happen is he trying to diffuse the situation and talk to Kaku. In that he would only know the half baked truth and there is no moving from there.

Now the logical thing would be if Virat hears out both the sides then and there and decide what's right or wrong. Ye hoga????? I doubt that as well.

Sai is impulsive and wants a quick solution. Virat is emotional and looks for a quick fix. Both forget to think long term.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: jankiraghav




What a dream discussion this is! I am absolutely excited for this now. What better than having a healthy disagreement. So @Sairat @Svt611 (aapka naam batana chaho toh please batana) @Diya_Abhilasha @Lakshmi, I am putting forth my side of the reason why I don't side with Sai completely keeping Virat out of the loop. And by that I don't mean that she should have jumped to tell him everything before gathering details -- but at least now, that the storm is coming towards Chakram Niwas.


I completely understand with the point you all are making about the fact that the Makad Gang, led by a very cold-hearted Bhavani (as she seems), who did not really bother about her own daughter's mental health, happiness or life would definitely have answers, alibis and other manipulations ready to divert the attention of anyone questioning her.

@Svt611: Agree that Bhavani knows Sai is the danger because it is Sai who would go all out to find the truth-- because Bhavani knows Sai has no vested interest or attachment or allegiance to anyone in that house to fear any loss (that was when Bhavani made that comment) and so no one can stop her from finding the truth or fighting for it. A person who has nothing to lose is the most dangerous opponent. Now, Sai does have something to lose too- Virat. But Sai either doesn't think she will lose Virat or she doesn't think it would make any difference.


But, here is my perspective of why Sai is wrong. It's not because she hasn't told Virat anything yet. She has already admitted that she will tell him everything at the right time. She is wrong today because Pulkit has decided to visit the house and Sai knows the reason. Instead of confiding in Virat and trying to get him on the side, she is going to set off another bomb there --leaving Virat totally at a loss, shocked and cornered by the Makad Gang about how Sai is meddling in the affairs of the family where she shouldn't. I am not sure if Ashwini knows anything or would have been of any help -- i get a feeling she doesn't know. She would not be someone who would join secret keeping about a baby being snatched from a mother - so I don't think Sai could have asked Ashwini for help.

We are all making statements about Sai being right from our "righteous" perspectives as a viewer and on that count, I agree that it is only Sai who can unite Pulkit and Devyani and not Virat. If Virat had spent even 10% of the time that Sai has spent understanding his family, he would have already known a lot more about the members than he does... So Sai is the only hope Devyani has.


But my analysis of the situation or the circumstances is as a neutral person. Virat does not have the courage to question the family about things that have been passed on for years as "kayda, niyam, usool, anushashan" unless it is for something that is directly in conflict with his personal value system or reasoning. He will 110% fall for the story the Makad Sena tells him about Devyani at first. But Rome was not built in a day... Virat is hesitant about confronting his family but he is not a fool. He needs time to process and understand. And Sai should have asked Pulkit to give her that time. Bring the entire picture out in front of him slowly. He might deny it, they might fight but ultimately, he is not someone who will turn a blind eye to the facts once they are brought to his notice. It would take time and hard work to do it that way but Sai can be assured that once Virat is convinced about the truth, he will not back out for anyone. Did she not see how he stood his ground in the Shivani case even though the family did not want him to proceed with booking the fraudster? He did, he did it legally. More than the manipulation of the family, it is completely illegal for Sai to do what she is doing. She definitely has no business to interfere in the life of Virat's cousin without knowing the whole story and not taking even one person from the family into confidence.

@pink: I think Sai lacks basic trust in Virat. She does think that he will not side with her on this case. But what she is failing to realise is that he will never side with the unjust if he can "See" the facts. I am not sure if they would have been able to take Devyani out but Virat does have the influence on the Makad Sena that no one else has ... they could have tried if they were one team.


@green: It is unfortunate that Devyani has suffered so much but we cannot deny the facts that have been presented to us: Devyani is not of a sound mind. She might have been wronged, forced to turn into a mental case, confined but the fact is that Bhavani is her "legal" caretaker. If Sai and Pulkit cannot prove the previous wedding, Virat would have all the legal options to have Pulkit arrested. It is clearly told in one of the flashback scenes that Pulkit and Devyani did not have a legal document to prove their wedding-- today he said they married in a temple. But he must have some proof? Some pictures of them... Harini's birth certificates, her story-- Do you think Virat would not believe all the truth? It would take time but to dismiss the option of getting him on board -- and he is the most important link to actually successfully unite this couple -- is foolish. You cannot make a decision for someone's life-- and that too, an incapacitated person, who is not in the sound state of mind to give his or her own consent just because you are in a hurry to wrap up the issue. If they waited for so many years... why not a few more days to do it well...

Now, she has found Pulkit and Pulkit has found Devyani and both of them cannot wait to just execute the unavoidable union. But it is wrong in many ways -- We know that Bhavani and her stooges have separated the couple but Sai doesn't know the whole story either. She is going by her instinct. And it is right, which we as viewers know. But what if her assumption was to be wrong and there was indeed another side to the story? It would be as foolish as she was when she assumed Madhuri was Pulkit's wife.

The reason why this hasty decision of bringing Devyani and Pulkit face to face is because Sai is impatient. Pulkit's impatience is understandable but he's the one who knows what is he going to be up against. And I find his approach to this extremely selfish, given that he knows a lot about Sai's marriage to Virat and how it can really ruin her life. He knows what the Chavans are capable of. He could have actually asked Sai to seek Virat's help, knowing that they would ultimately need to take help of law.

At the end of the day, we are debating a track that has been introduced setting aside all logic 😆 We also know that ultimately he will side her despite not being in the loop from the beginning.

Do all you think that once Virat learns about the truth, he will still believe the Makad Gang? I don't think so. Sai has not even tried. That is the problem.


Thank you janki, as usual i agree with you on most points, on others we have to agree to diagree.

By the way my name is Priyanshi..

So coming back to topic, I agree that Sai lacks basic trust in Virat, even I do😅..

The man stops using his brain where his family is concerned..


Second while the first marriage in mandir as well, you need to register yourself and you get a proof..but assuming its ITV also back then if pulkit had proof, it was of no use as he lacked the economical and social standing, we all know CN people believe in people with either economic or social standing..


As to your concern, Sai would be gullitoned , yes but imagine Sai not knowing anything and Pulkit using her to gain entry in CN like he was originally trying to do..Do you think BK and gang would have not blamed Sai than, or would have not tried to oust her then???


Imagine if Sai did not knew about pulkit coming and if pulkit came and Devyani would have lost control whom do you think Virat would have blamed???


In that family, people who are considered weak are only targeted for every bad, otherwise why even Ashwini is putting valid points across in an argument Virat shushes her..why does he not shush Kaku or his baba or omi kaka or sonali kaku..???

Some might say others he respects but he loves his aai..

I do not agree...Love and Respect goes together..you cannot love someone and not respect them and vice versa is also true..


He shushes his mother, because he knows well, she stands with no support..


Do you think if Ninad supported Ashwini he would have shushed her up like he did earlier??


So Sai is gullitioned one way or other, why not after doing something!!!


Though i am not in favour of domestic abuse and throwing sai out..I am more than ready for seperation where i wait for episode where Sai takes down tbe whole family in front of neighbourhood ; unke izzat ke parkache uda kar😈😈😈☠💀😤

I am in love with that good bye dialogue...


When Sai says: "Good Bye Chavan Niwas people, bhagwan kare is janam mei toh kya agle kisi janam mei tumlogo ki manhoos shakal ke darshan na jo mujhe" and she goes after giving them a smile...

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Roch


Hey sister, i felt like responding on this one first instead of the analysis. Then i will go back to that. As always awesome analysis and some right questions asked. Will answer them there.

I love the discussion which is going on currently, and I want to be a devil's advocate while logically I do agree with your points and in an ideal scenario Sai should tell Virat about what's about to explode. But before that is she even aware what is about to explode, she has only heard both the side of the story but she is far from the truth. She does not know what the actual truth is. So what is she going to tell Virat, she tried asking but he does not even believe that his sister is married (when she keeps on saying) so how does she convince him. So what's the best opportunity she has got bring both of them face to face and see how it goes. Is she skeptical, she is of course and she was not very keen when Pulkit said I will come to your house.

She is just welcoming the professor home, but letting the story come out in open on its own. Surely the people in the house are not going to be happy with that scene and they are going to react. Its up to Virat what he sees and then what he believes. He could actually side with his family and consider Pulkit a fraud and throw him out, but that is after listening to the information which happens right in front of him.

With Sai telling him (however logical it may be, its ITV so no logic there) the only thing which might happen is he trying to diffuse the situation and talk to Kaku. In that he would only know the half baked truth and there is no moving from there.

Now the logical thing would be if Virat hears out both the sides then and there and decide what's right or wrong. Ye hoga????? I doubt that as well.

Sai is impulsive and wants a quick solution. Virat is emotional and looks for a quick fix. Both forget to think long term.

Well, we'll have to wait for the scene to play out because the "knowledge" about what's going to happen is available and we know he will side with her. Whether it is because he's right now in he lovey-dovey mode or because he is convinced about the story will be seen when it happens.

@bold: if she really makes it seem that way, it is fine because she's going to get blamed any way once they realise that he is her professor. But the fact is that she does have information that is true and Virat doesn't. I believe she should have tried to calm Pulkit down and attempted to show Virat the facts before deciding that it would be better to leave him out. He didn't need any proofs during the Shivani issue because he knew the right from the wrong, from the moment he heard the arguments. Even though they ended up fighting for other reasons, he went ahead with Sai's quite an extreme plan of becoming a bait herself... Even I don't trust Virat, and you'd know where my heart tends to tilt when i have to choose between the two of them.

I don't disagree with anyone who's saying Sai is the one who has more conviction to unite Devyani and Pulkit than Virat. I completely agree. But from other aspects-- be it from the legal point of view, moral point of view or even 'family' point of view. She is assuming a lot of "good things" based on her instinct about Pulkit and "bad things" about the family based on her experience, but it is not a trivial matter. It is Devyani's life and someone responsible needs to be on this side to be the mediator when needed.

@blue: My issue is also that. In doing so, she's totally putting her relationship with Virat at stake. That was one of my questions -- is it right to put your own self at stake for someone else? We know that is how Sai is and she doesn't quite feel the "We" factor with Virat as much as he does. But, in this risk that she's willing to take, the losers will be Virat and Sai in the end. It does seem that she doesn't mind it or she is not considering it as a risk factor yet.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sairat


Thank you janki, as usual i agree with you on most points, on others we have to agree to diagree.

By the way my name is Priyanshi..

Hello Priyanshi!! 🤗🤗 I am all for agreeing to disagree. It helps us maintain the balance that we all love in this forum and also refreshes perspectives! But, I must say, My heart tilts towards Sai always but I am being objective in this matter because I do not agree with Sai's actions from the legal angle.

So coming back to topic, I agree that Sai lacks basic trust in Virat, even I do😅..

The man stops using his brain where his family is concerned..

Same here 😆 I don't trust him much but I do feel he will not turn a blind eye to facts. Sai needs time, which Pulkit has not given her and she's not processed the magnanimity of the situation or its consequences. It's not a child's play to make a decision for a mentally unsound person like this. Unfortunately, even if Bhavani and the gang are wrong and totally black, they are the "guardians" of this girl. Technically, Pulkit can be booked for abduction, rape and wrongful confinement of Devyani whenever they elope in Devyani's present condition, without the consent of the family -- Devyani can still be brought back to Chavan Niwas by Bhavani by using an absolute "legal way" and then treat her even worse. Sai will be helpless. That is a fact. My entire argument is based on the fact that Sai is exceeding her authority in this matter -- she has the purest intention. My heart will bleed for her when she's eventually lynched, but I won't be able to say with conviction that she was entirely "right" because of this undeniable legal aspect that could have been taken care of, if the issue was dealt with prudently. It only needs some time and work to untangle the complication. But I know logic doesn't work on TV. 🤔 So, we can only rack our brain cells to continue this discussion while the makers will use Ctrl C+V😆

So, Sai will succeed in her act that would otherwise be illegal. My whole point of this discussion is the "hypothesis of logic, which doesn't occur on TV" 😆. Sai will need Virat. The fact that the whole issue will blow up later is because hasty steps in such sensitive matters do not work. Had she spent time to gather the facts and present them before Virat (no one else), it would make a lot of difference. But then how will there be drama 😆


Second while the first marriage in mandir as well, you need to register yourself and you get a proof..but assuming its ITV also back then if pulkit had proof, it was of no use as he lacked the economical and social standing, we all know CN people believe in people with either economic or social standing..

As to your concern, Sai would be gullitoned , yes but imagine Sai not knowing anything and Pulkit using her to gain entry in CN like he was originally trying to do..Do you think BK and gang would have not blamed Sai than, or would have not tried to oust her then???


Imagine if Sai did not knew about pulkit coming and if pulkit came and Devyani would have lost control whom do you think Virat would have blamed???

Yes, I said in the other post that Sai would get blamed for Pulkit coming home once they find out that he's her professor but the fact that she will side with him and announce that she has 'knowledge' about their secret will be even bigger a shock and reason to corner the couple.


In that family, people who are considered weak are only targeted for every bad, otherwise why even Ashwini is putting valid points across in an argument Virat shushes her..why does he not shush Kaku or his baba or omi kaka or sonali kaku..???

Some might say others he respects but he loves his aai..

I do not agree...Love and Respect goes together..you cannot love someone and not respect them and vice versa is also true..

He shushes his mother, because he knows well, she stands with no support..

Do you think if Ninad supported Ashwini he would have shushed her up like he did earlier??

He's repeatedly been bashed for asking Sai and Aai to shut up when they are right. I have said multiple times before that he takes them for granted because they are easier for him to mollify at the end of the day and so at times he feels he can suppress them to diffuse a situation instead of arguing with the gang, he is always wrong. His apology to Aai did not have much meaning because like a typical son/daughter, he repeats his mistake and takes her for granted at the next available opportunity.


So Sai is gullitioned one way or other, why not after doing something!!!


Though i am not in favour of domestic abuse and throwing sai out..I am more than ready for seperation where i wait for episode where Sai takes down tbe whole family in front of neighbourhood ; unke izzat ke parkache uda kar😈😈😈☠💀😤

I am in love with that good bye dialogue...


When Sai says: "Good Bye Chavan Niwas people, bhagwan kare is janam mei toh kya agle kisi janam mei tumlogo ki manhoos shakal ke darshan na jo mujhe" and she goes after giving them a smile...

I am all for the separation too because they need this time out. The circumstances of this marriage, their temperaments and the constant conflicts one after the other due to external circumstances are not giving them the space to weigh anything.

I am not sure I would like her to create the tamasha in the neighbourhood because Sai is definitely graceful but it is possible that the crowd might gather on its own, let's see....

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Posted: 4 years ago
#30

Originally posted by: FortunaMajor

I am already face palming at the way Sai has initiated the process of uniting Pulkit and Devyani, she had no business making the promise of uniting them or getting them to meet without finding out the story on the other side of the coin and especially without taking Virat and Aai into confidence.

Sai's intentions cannot be questioned but good intentions alone do not lead to good actions. Virat as a brother needs to be brought into confidence more than as Sai's husband and Ashwini the aunt and well-wisher. Its okay for Sai not to trust anybody else in this regard but she needs to take Virat and Aai into confidence. And she can't go around making promises basef on Pulkit's words alone without getting into the crux of the matter first. Her impulsiveness is going to cost her a lot here!

True. She had ample opportunities to do so. If the CVs still want to stick to copy paste, they can still make the tiny change of Sai telling Virat what she knows


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