Phir main chup kyu hui.. phir tu chup kyu hua.. - Page 2

Keep posting daily dear.....its awesome you point everything that whole forum members wants to tell creatives ❤️

Awesome Analysis janki , just loved it ,

I really enjoyed today's episode very much , the much needed confrontation for their relationship to progress , kya mast sawal pooch sai neh virat seh, I hope virat ab yeah air of MU clear kareh , he should speak what's in his heart rather than hoping her to understand his unsaid feelings and all , kabhi kabhi rishton mein reassure ki bahoot zaroorat hai kabhi apni action seh aur kabhi apni batom seh ,

Ab everything is out before him what his zimmedari actually thinks , feel about entire situation from start , man just don't stay silent and expect her to understand you , like u said she has build a fort around her but not of ego but fear of heart failure she just don't want to get lost and broken , so now it's ur duty to break that fort around her , speak to her what is in your heart , tell her about everything clean the misunderstanding before people take advantage of this rift between u both ,

Well I loved the new version played during the bed scene it actually described the exact state of their heart , waiseh bhi chai peh charcha with sai will not that good since he is taking exotic tea uska azar toh dikayega nah , iam sure sai will try to ignore him , like he never existed for her , everything is gonna get triggered with lunch with prof. Iam sure virat would have planned a day out yah try to spend time with her to resolve the mess , but sai itni asani seh janneh wali nahi hai ACP sahab ,

Chalo PD sir invited sai for lunch waiseh yeah donom ko detective bannah chahiye , aur PD wants her to call him for lunch / dinner to CN too oh god bhookamp ayega for sure 😂

Anyways today I felt they started to pick the pace now

Originally posted by: akniti

Keep posting daily dear.....its awesome you point everything that whole forum members wants to tell creatives ❤️

I don't know why I am posting everyday honestly😂 Roz I think I will skip it but then I end up writing 😅 blame it on the extoxic tea they keep bringing. Uska zeher dum screen se travel hokar aa jaata hai 😂😂😂😂

Originally posted by: jankiraghav

I don't know why I am posting everyday honestly😂 Roz I think I will skip it but then I end up writing 😅 blame it on the extoxic tea they keep bringing. Uska zeher dum screen se travel hokar aa jaata hai 😂😂😂😂

I think cvs have taken your appreciation of pakkhis tea seriously, thats why c gang going on and on with didis chai....😆

Daily 1 minute episode is dedicated to pakkhi chai.....

Janki, lovely analysis 😍 Please don’t stop, I am always eager to read your thoughts .

Can anyone translate the newly added lyrics?

loved the post, main kisiki opinion sunna chahti thi after watching the episode and immediately aap yaad aayi muje. ❤️

so the initial few lines of sai i felt bad for Virat as what he said was right to some extent that a person is doing something good for you and cares for you and takes stand for you as she has no family or anyone who would do that for that, usah mausi just stands there and says nothing mostly. tho uss insaan se kam se kam acche se baath tho karna woh deserve karta hai, even though virat is wrong in many other ways. so uss few lines keliye i felt ki thoda acche se baath hisakti thi, but it was needed for that 'argument' to start, warna next 'bomb' jaise questions kaise saamne aate😆

so the questions sai asked and everything she said about, virpakh's pyaar, dosti, himmat, zimmedaari, how ignorant virat and family is towards pakhi's haratein, that 'deal' waali shaadi, ek dusre ke expectations, haq and everything was ON POINT..👏❤️

but as usual virat didnt answer any. he escaped again, as usual. this time by saying 'tumhara koyi haq nay banta ki tum mere aur pakhi ke bharemin kuch poocho' not the exact words i guess but something similar he said. i was like usse haq nay dena, jawab nay dena, feelings and baatein share nay karna but sai se expect zaroor karna hai ki woh samjegi..🤣 how? through telepathy?😆

when he said at the end that 'sai tum muje samajti q nay ho, humesha muje galat q samjti ho' ayisa kuch. i was like 'jab that usse kuch batao gi nay in spasht shabd, how will she understand?' its like exam nay dena hai but high distinction mein pass hona hai🤣

About Sai's comment on Samrat..I was taken aback too. Because Sai is not generally an insensitive person.

I have a different take on it. Twice Pakhi spoke disparagingly about Samrat. First time on the terrace, when she said exactly the same..I don't know if Samrat will come back or not. Virat's reaction..shock, but not a word. Even his face did not register anger!

Second time, in front of Sai, when she said Samrat doesn't mean anything to her. Sai reacted to that in anger because she understood what Pakhi meant. Virat almost reacted but even if he had , would his reaction have been as strong as when he reacts to Sai??

Sometimes I feel Sai looks out for these reactions almost testing him to see his reactions and he almost always lets her down with his measured reaction to Pakhi.

Even today, when Sai asked him apne dil pe haath rakhke kahiye ...he kept quiet. Or chalo, he cannot verbalize the but his reactions could have been stronger. Instead he told she was lying... another Jalebi.

Awesome analysis! 🤗

Sai seems to have doubled the height of her wall now.😭 Looks to me that she has decided to not even indulge in small feel-good moments that they used to share before. She is obviously lying to herself that she doesn't care as much, but it is understandable. That is the only way to protect herself from becoming a mess.

With today's confrontation, has Virat reached a state of mind where he will want to be spasht with Sai? Or more jalebies? I'm curious.

Whatever it will be, Sai will not give an encouraging response - by the looks of the ego-hurt Virat in the precap.

Lovely analysis, Janki!!

a WOW episode!!! Bilkul spasht...

Sai and Virat are two opposites...almost har baat mein...ek baat ki..Sai is impromptu...use zyada sochna nahi padta and she can discuss/argue/fight/talk...Virat needs to prepare..use 10 baar sochna padta hai...iss wajah se hi shayad he avoids confrontations...he cannot come up with his daleel jaldi se...wohi hua...Sai was hurt...and she could not control and she said...sab BANG ON...Arjun ke teer ki tarah nishane per ki gayee batten....Virat did not expect this at all...He came with a sacche dil se maafi maangne...Sai had no bad intentions either...but haalat aise hue ki Sai ne apni sacchi baat acche se kah di...Virat ko time laga...un baaton ko process karne mein...we need to wait and see ki iss process ka outcome kya hoga hai....Looking at the scene where he is so eager to talk to Sai in the morning, he does not look angry...He is ready with his part of speech..I think

Loved how Sai ne sab baaten spashta se kah di...Off course, she could not give away her feelings in this situation...where she is telling him that she remembers it's a deal wali shaadi...woh yeh nahi kah sakti thi ki uska dil confuse hone laga hai...She is samajhdaar not to complicate the situation further...

Chai per charcha with friends/family... I love it..😂 😂... ..But zillat arena mein CN ki chai..sunn kar hi mann khatta ho jaata hai.😂 😂

But today I liked it...to me it was very symbolic....yahin per itna bada scene hua for Ladakh trip...and Usi Pakhi se Virat asked another cup of tea for Sai...It was like a tamacha for the kaku gang...

Sai ne apni ball bilkul sahi kheli...the ball is in Virat's court...Lets c....

Originally posted by: jankiraghav

Good morning sisterhood!! 🌄🌺🌻

It's a new start to the week and thank God for the way it has started. What a mind-blowing scene that was between "ek doosre Ka accha chahne wale' Pati Patni. The pointed questions and the raw feelings Sai expressed today are much needed for the progress of the relationship, one way or the other. Loved the episode so much that I was almost surprised sad that it ended 😒

The scene beautifully brought out the two "opposites" of Sai and Virat. The word "opposites" was a trigger for Chavan saheb because in his mind, "how can you say I am not on you side?" But the fact is that he has been in the opposite side more than often by admonishing Sai for her "badtameezi" even where it was not required. Her feeling, thus, is far from being baseless. He, on the other hand, wants her to read his feelings for her through his actions -- which are, honestly, confusing at times for her. His "insaan ko padhna" nahi aata was his hurt from a dashed expectation that Sai has understood his unspoken words.

And so, her absolutely rightfully spoken words came as a jolt. Now this is actually Virat's problem: He feels people around him should be able to read him and gauge his feelings without him having to articulate it ever. It is fine in normal circumstances because, yes, actions speak louder than words. But he has conveniently forgotten the fact that he has placed an embargo in the relationship with Sai, which she cannot set aside unless he verbalised the changed condition. Because she obviously also sees his actions in regard to his 'pyarosti' from the glasses that he himself has given her.

Sai and Virat are actually on the opposite side in the way they deal with situations. She wasn't wrong -- it is true that they end up in an argument where they don't expect one because when it comes to seeing the point between them, they are on two different planes. Sai takes the route of confrontations to find her answers and resolutions to things bothering her while Virat is non-confrontational. Let's not call his outbursts in the state of jealousy 'confrontation' because it wasn't. It was a consequence of avoiding confrontation that he ultimately had a pressure point of explosion. And what an irony that the very reason why he exploded was the insecurity that Sai herself voiced today: "Do I belong to you?" For Virat the question is: "Don't I belong to you?" Isn't it essentially the same question? Yes or no?

Sai does not know if she should feel that she "belongs" to him. Yes, there is a definite unspoken belonging they share. But it is also true that a spouse, even in normal marriages, needs to hear words of reassurance from time to time... Yahan toh, navra baiko are yet to decide who will break the embargo first. And Virat, he has removed the embargo -- yes, he has and he's hurting that she cannot see it. But, he will continue to skip the most opportune moments to say it aloud and make her see it. Instead, add to his silence where he needs to speak the words "gurur, badtameezi, chillana" -- sometimes just used to digress from an argument where there is no better point to make. Now, they are her trigger points, just like any mention of the deal or 'pyarosti' is for him.

Today his use of her 'badtameezi' weakness was rather misplaced. It set her off and made her connect it to his silence on matters related to his 'true love' and she couldn't stop herself from bursting out about the one thing that has been hurting her: the absent 'husband'. Doesn't she wish to have the expectations from him that she has been told cannot? Of course, she does. But can she say it to his in as many words? She doesn't know yet and he is waiting to hear those words from her.

His "Do dhai kitaabein padhne se nahi aati... Insaan ki samajh Nahi hai..." and "Tumne Apne chaaron aur ek deewar khadi ki hai Jo tumhara Accha chahne wale par Nahi Kar paayenge, tum akeli reh jaogi" was actually an irony because it is applicable to him in as much weight as to her -- can he read the anguish she feels as a "wife" that is so visible on her face? Does he even see the wall he has built in between them and why she raises her walls up? How does he want her to break her walls when she's unable to see him breaking the one he placed between them?

My heart went out to Sai when she said, "Main toh aaj bhi akeli hi hoon"... He still didn't get the context to what she is speaking.

>> This line spoke volumes and he has not yet registered what has she said.

On Saturday, someone mentioned how PP is using her "loneliness" to get sympathy. But it is true for any person -- be it Sai, Virat or PP -- the loneliness that they feel is the one that can only be filled by a spouse. In PP's case, the spouse is unavailable but for Sai and Virat, they are lonely despite being together. Nothing can be sadder than that -- Saath hokar tanha... Leave aside the moments when they are happy and in their banter - it is still not the togetherness that they actually need to experience together. It is a fact that they are both drawn to each other. They feel equally misunderstood and unwanted thanks to their excellent skills at diverting attention from what needs to be spoken. And thus, the result of the unfulfilled desire is their anger in turns.

This was a much needed confrontation -- it was long overdue and thankfully, spashthly served by Sai after the unnecessary reference to "badtameezi chillana" trigger today. What is a wife who can't show her husband the mirror? And vice versa. What is a 'love' that cannot discount transgressions and moments where the person might appear most unworthy of being loved? And, what is a spousal relationship where the most uncomfortable questions cannot be asked?

So she asked the right questions without mincing words: "Why are you so upset if I say I did not want to join you on your pyarosti trip? Why do you point out to my badtameezi in such a partisan manner when you know that it is your pyarosti insulting me? Why is it so hurting if I mention the deal word? Who has given you the right to question my education and intelligence? Why did you ask me to not have spousal 'ummeed' from you if you're not committed to someone else? Isn't that someone else this very woman who has the license to walk into my personal space, make contemptuous faces at me, call me names for being in the same room as you and walk away without being chastised? Isn't she the one to whom your commitment is bigger than it is to me?"

Of course, the most brilliant of all - "Did a single elder of the family object to her demand of wanting to go alone with you the way they condemned my accompanying you as your 'wife'? Why are you the candy being handed out to a toddler whose toy has gone missing and may not be found?"

And the golden question: "Why didn't you tell my father that you can't take up the zimmedari because you're already committed to someone? Why did you say a hurried, half-hearted yes?"

Now, the questions have no answers actually and Virat's silence is understandable because they have come as an unexpected bolt. Of course, to the last question we will say he didn't think of marrying her when he promised Kamal Joshi that he would 'khayal rakhunga' of his daughter but then he did always think Kamal Joshi had bestowed some kind of right on him over Sai -- his instant yes to the promise was from that subconscious feeling of "responsibility and right" he felt for her at that point already.

Today his response to her "Aapko kisne haq Diya" with "Tumhare Aaba ne" was misplaced for Sai because she was talking about it from only her anger about him questioning her intelligence but his response was to the larger 'haq' that he feels he has in her. I am not sure if we can call it entitlement here (which is a feeling he has as being the 'husband') but this 'haq' is the haq of belonging. Of belonging enough to question.

Sai won't know why he said "Tumhare Aaba ne". He wasn't answering her specific question but referring to his inexplicable connection with her since before their relationship even had a legal name. For some reason, the moment I heard that response, it reminded me of the lunch table scene from Gadchiroli where Kamal Joshi was unable to eat because he was worried for Sai being hungry in the safe house -- and Virat told him Sai was enjoying the poha, much to Kamal Joshi's surprise, "How did you know?" Response: "I just spoke to her" (fact: video called). Kamal Joshi: "She spoke to you?" Response: "Just a little... not much" (Fact: they spoke about 'duniya kho dena' and his anguish of 1.47 hours love lost)

But coming to her direct question about his feelings for the 1.47 Hours love story -- (now will we ever know how did she find out about the yoga love story?🙄 I am assuming that she heard PP saying, "ye wo Virat Nahi hai jisse main yoga camp me Mili thi" because the walls of their room are porous and sound going out is a regular complaint😏🤔😐)

Sai did not speak from jealousy but from the facts that are in front of her eyes. His silence in matters concerning PP's badtameezi cannot be ignored. It has reinforced Sai's belief that it is her 'husband' who has literally handed over the rights to his 'pyarosti' to insult her whenever she feels like venting out at Sai her frustration over his dhoka..why should she be at the receiving end. Yes Virat was surprised and almost wanted to say, "I spoke for you and told her off today" but no, it is a little and a little too late -- his dono ke haath me talwaar dialogue had undone his standing up to a big extent and Sai did catch on to that at the very moment -- when did she ask for the rights he said he cannot give her? When, before this, did she question his commitment to another woman? When did she speak in between them unless it was a direct attack at her spoken in a indirect speech?

In his anger, he ended up adding another brick to the wall by saying "Tum Hoti kaun ho..." and his silence at "Dil par haath rakhiye ki aap Pakhi Didi se pyaar Nahi karte.. She has the courage to openly show her emotions for you but what you're doing is like cheating her. Why can't you admit that it is she who you love and are committed to..." The suggestion reduced him to tears -- is it because he couldn't bear the burden of being unable to say what he wants to now tell Sai or was it because he suddenly relived the pain of the heartbreak with the reality check?!

The dialogues she spoke in between - "Aap izhaar Nahi Karte, Dil mein daba Kar rakhte hain... Agar aapko Lagta hai mujhe Bura lagega toh aisa Nahi hai" actually did fit well for the present state of his mind with her -- the only thing holding him back from telling her what he feels (not acknowledged as love yet) is because of his fear of rejection and of causing her the hurt of 'umeed rakhna' but then the umeed is already there... and he hurts her in other ways. So bol hi do na re Baba😐😐You might have failed to read it but the pyarosti has already done the deep damage on the relationship you want to build with your wife, Chavan Saheb. The more you delay clearing this misconception that she has about your pyarosti, the higher the walls will become... Don't seek that wall to be removed without an effort.

>> Bolega kaise, khud ko toh samjha aaye ki kya feel kar raha hain. He needs a self introspection and for that he going to take a nasty route. He is going to hurt her and in turn hurt himself a lot.

The fact is that spousal confrontation is needed to establish transparency in the relationship where there exists a conflict due to a mutual misunderstanding or simply miscommunication -- as in their case. Deliberately avoiding such a confrontation does nothing to resolve contention and bridge the distance between the spouses. The fact of the matter is that where there is so much unspoken, confrontation is necessary, and can actually enhance the quality of the relationship.

Sai's outburst should get Virat to recognise the problem between them, if he had forgotten and assumed that his caring gestures would be enough to scale the walls he can see around Sai. Now, he actually knows the reason for the frustration of both the women he thinks are at loggerheads with each other -- it is he.

>>> He needs to understand that first, that he is the main issue and mainly from Vahini's side, sai only retorts back.

Now Sai may come across as aggressive but she's actually only at an assertive person. Her assertiveness is often seen as her aggression, but it is actually her confidence in communicating what her mind has gauged by connection the facts presented to her.

While Sai will still continue to say that she is unaffected by his commitment to this woman because she has accepted the deal, he should be able to see it's far from the truth. Bappa kasam, when he began saying "tum kehti ho tum jhoot Nahi bolti par aaj...." I thought he was going to say, "I can see you are lying and it affects you because you are my wife." But then I realised that picture Ka climax toh aana baaki hai 😅

>>> He needs to come to terms with his hurt first then only he will understand what is he doing to her. He needs to clear his head first (Jismein filhaal bhusa bhara hain).

If Virat thinks Sai does not understand him, it's also true vice versa...does it not hurt to hurt him. It does. Did they read each other's eyes when they met in the bed after the screaming? What a beautiful moment that was -- I can't even tell how real. When spouses fight and turn their backs to each other in bed, taking turns to see if the other will speak first to break the silence and the disappointment when they don't but the resolve that "I'm not going to talk first" and the restlessness that follows for the entire time until you find the moment when you can break the silence -- which Virat thought he'd do with chai pe charcha. That smile on his face as if he knows he'd be able to resolve this... But ab chai li bhi toh Kaunsi 🙈

>>> The scene was so husband and wife like, brief moment but very well presented and emoted as well

Wo chai jisse peekar log bhool jaate Hain Woh pehle kya peete thay. So both navra Baiko will drink extoxic tea and try to resolve the issue 🙊🙊 mujhe koi umeed nahi rakhna. Because, aata samajhle, this extoxic tea is the reason why Chavan Saheb has forgotten his vaada and deal both -- he actually has no memory of either of the two. Ab bas itna hi pata hai, "Dheere Dheere pyaar ko badhana hai, hadh se guzar jaana hai"

But Saibai is singing, "Tu pyaar hai Kisi aur Ka, tujhe chahti koi aur hai"

And we can all be singing: chehra kya dekhte ho, Dil me utar Kar Dekho na... Mausam pal mein badal jaayega, patthar Dil bhi pighal Jayega..😅

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Now, Pulkit Deshpande is aware of how modern thinking family is this Chavan clan 😅😅 and Sai immediately catches the clue "oh so Pulkit sir also knows how obnoxious they are. Now this is enough proof that he's the one I am looking for" 😅😂😂 Chakram Makad Sena is so famous for being vile!

So, Sai has accepted the lunch invitation. For obvious reasons, she will not reveal anything to Virat -- also unsure if they get back to talking terms with the extoxic tea 😖 but Chavan saheb ke aansuon ki dhara toh aur behne wali hai 🥺 kyunki Sai ki 'zidd' todne Ka jigar nahi hai aapke paas, let's face it!

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A moment of silence in solidarity with Samrat's photo. His legal wife who must sign his (pata Nahi kaunse) documents still dressed up for her broken honeymoon dreams and continuing to lick her wounds while the whole mansion has gone to sleep. Today, she didn't hear the sounds from her imaginary husband's bedroom where she was actually the centre of the conversation. Next morning, all that extra zeher and double dose of beizzati hormones have gone into the chai 😰. I hope Virat drops the cups by tripping on the stairs, please 🙄 that look when she saw Ashwini giving the last cup to him for the "second" person -- uff, aisa laga hajmola bina taste kiye halak me atak gaya ho 🙄😒 waise whose was that last cup? Kahin Didi Ka hi toh Nahi tha? Aisa hua toh phir toh Sai ko "meri haq ki chai cheen li" wala ilzaam bhi sehen Karna padega...and chai served by chaheeta IPS beta with his own hands in front of the entire Chakram gang?! Too much to handle...

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Have you brewed the beverage your soul wants? Is it coffee ☕☕☕ tea 🍵🍵🍵 or the tricky terrain of honesty that can be achieved only when speaking spashthly -- it is often not easy to make choices in life but when faced with a conflict, our soul often directs us to pick battles. It is because the soul knows best who is the one worth fighting 💪 for...

This week marks the beginning of new life, new season -- the spring -- it will arrive and replace the grey with the green and all the lovely floral hues in between... take your pick and paint your surroundings with the colour that makes you the happiest and strongest in fighting the battle you must pick -- because some conflicts need to be started, questions need to be asked, silences need to be hung in between... In the end, it is important though to leave room to be able to find those answers that your soul is seeking...

With that, have and delightful day and a wonderful week! Kuch kehna hai toh kaho...

Aur mere hugs 🤗🤗🤗, pyaar ❤️❤️❤️ aur aabhar 🙏🙏🙏 ko sweekar Karo!

Aale,

❤️J

I have no words beautiful analysis and as you mentioned a great start of the week with a beautiful emotional episode. I was wanting to skip it, but as usual your analysis did not let me do it.

Mind blowing is the word I have, man they can carry an entire episode on their shoulders with only dialogues & emotions. It was plain and simple wow. These are the kind of episodes we look forward too.

Both are hurt, in their own way. I understand Saibai's outburst, she is thinking of everyone except him and his silence as he is thinking only about her. Janki as you rightly mentioned, this outburst came out of now where and it took him by surprise, it will take time for him to process the information dished out to him by Baiko. As Baiko is spashta but our Viru boy is jalebi master (Samjhala pahije na)

Their last fight was where he vented out stating "You did not love me and never wanted to marry me"

This time she said it, you said you were committed and don't expect anything from me. Ab aage kya, will Navra understand what has he done by staying quiet most of the time. By letting vahini but in always, he has made both of them believe differently.

One question why was he so hurt when Baiko said, i never wanted to go and i said yes only because you asked. Well Navra was never clear why he wanted Baiko to come (spashta in words), he used the word Zimmedari again and then expects her to understand kaise.

The problem is these 2 question alot, but jawab nahi dete. Aur yahan hum inka spashta questions ka jawab dhundte rehte hain.