How is Sai rude

Hi folks, I had a few questions that I'm a bit confused on. For context, I watch this show with my MIL because I'm trying to bond with her and my hindi is not that good. She really likes to watch this show so I'm trying to understand it. I can't ask her because she doesn't speak English and I don't want her to think I'm dumb.

1) How is Sai rude? The translations on TV are not that good but everytime I watch her on TV she seems to be saying logical responses although a little bit long winded. Is it her tone? Is she swearing at them or something? The translations will translate what she is saying and then the other person will call her rude or mannerless but its a bit confusing. For example that scene where she's in the pink outfit and Virat is wearing the yellow jacket. She tells him to stop yelling otherwise his friend will barge in to the room but then he says don't cross the line/limit. But how did she do that? I'm sorry if this sounds really dumb but I don't get how this connection of her being rude is made repeatedly. I know that in Hindi when you say Aap to somebody its polite, and I think she talks to everyone using that.

2) How is Virat's anger normal? He seems to have anger issues but its very jarring to see because I don't remember it being that bad in the earlier episodes. He yells at Sai horribly, and its worse because she's what 18? That's a child to him. And he never answers her questions logically. Either that or I'm not getting what he is saying. There are so many instances where he speaks very generally or like weirdly phrases something but I don't get how that's answering Sai's argument. He also has a lot of toxic masculinity that nobody calls out, even Sai doesn't. He seemed nice earlier on but now he seems like he cares more about his validation from Sai when he's the one who's meant to be in a caring role.

3) This whole housework thing - I don't get how it all works. So the kaku lady doesn't do anything and neither do the men of the house so it's the 3 DILs and Virat's mum and the other lady (the one who has her hair in a plait). Why isn't the work split up first of all? Joint family is like living in a dorm right? You split up all the tasks amongst everyone. Shouldn't Virat and Sai split up their tasks in half and do it? Wouldn't that be fair? Before Virat got married who did his tasks? This seemed to be a big argument but I don't get how its an argument because all these people are modern. I thought Virat is meant to be well educated so why would he continue to endorse this way of living. I would understand if Sai is a housewife but she clearly is not.

4) Is none of this classed as domestic abuse? How's it shown on prime time television. Virat who is the protagonist and we're meant to root for him doesn't seem to object any of the name calling, bullying and mental abuse under his own home.

5) Is Pakhi a main lead or villain? I don't get if we are meant to feel bad for her or still root for her? Is she eventually going to get with Virat, as in like a proper love triangle or what. Her and Virat seem to really long for each other but I'm not sure because he seems to also like Sai but I guess not in that way?

I tried to search online but this forum was the closest thing I found to a discussion space. Not bashing the show! I quite like the back and forth between the characters even if it is getting a bit repetitive at times but I am just confused about these things.

Hi Rishika, great to read your questions. Sai, as per the older people of that household is rude to the point of being called a jungli i.e.wild/uncivilized girl. Here , they are referring to the so called traditional expectations from a DILi.e. does not question or answer back immediately in conversations with her in laws. They want her to know her place,keep quiet, obey and not expect any consideration from others. As for modern familyvalues, unfortunately TV serials are busy endorsing all kinds of regressive thoughts in the name of traditions. Actually traditional families in real life are way better than TV families. In fact, in real life, lady police officers, lady doctors etc that I have seen, get a lot of support from their families otherwise they won't be able to function. Yet, in TV shows, in laws treat their well employed DIL like she has nothing to do. I don't know how it works for you but I wouldn't watch any of these shows with in laws because most of these shows step in the fault lines in family relations+they always raise unrealistic expectations and demands of the DIL. It's ok if people see it as just entertainment but the subject matter is often emotional

and can draw people in. By the way, I find Sai's behaviour quite odd too. How does anyone play music so loudly in a house full of hostile people and that too late at night?

Firstly welcome to Tele show.... Not everything shown on show is every gonna make sense... I shall try to help you to the extent I can

1) True that to everything u said.. she is a teen And not sm1 who has seen lot many ppl or situation... So she is brash and not very polished as a person. hilarious part is the supposed matured family completely ignores that aspect.... With traditional household, answering back is not considered as a good behaviour an termed as rude and ill mannered... This aspect is more to do with the traditional mindset of ppl and the show is doing lil to change that.

2)Again great observation.... I am guessing that they are trying to show that the couple learn from their set of miscommunication.... So slowly and steadily they understand each other and behave all lovey dovey.... As far as I remember, virat's anger has been more of frustration from either situation or people or his own confusion with his feelings and/or not being able to communicate his feelings. He does try to explain things to sai but he is yet to realise that he needs to use a different approach with her considering her exposure and nature. Same method of teaching dsnt make the whole class super smart....

3) That is simply Tele show issue... And we need to shut our eye on this matter 😂😂😂😂

Ppl will be more accommodating in real life.

4) That is simply Tele show issue... And we need to shut our eye on this matter 😂😂😂😂

Ppl will be more accommodating in real life

5) it is quite confusing about her prospects on the show.... It is supposed to be a love triangle sequence.... But the sai and virat angle is yet to fit Into place.... Also technically and traditionally and practically, Pakhi should focus on her actual husband .... And wat is to happen with her, we will have to wait and watch.

Hope I could help you....

**No offense to anyone or the show... Just my understanding

Sai is potrayed as "mufat" someone that answers back and does not let things slide. She is not "mild mannered" or one to let things go. Having said that she is usually right. She always means well. Except that her tone borders on "rude" . But this family is always rude to her. She just answers back in the same tone. the family is portrayed as "conservative" where they expect the daughter in law to be soft spoken or preferably mute. And they expect that she will listen to everything they say/ask, no questions asked. They dont like her because she is not from their caste/social status and her marriage to Virat happened in a hurry due to extreme circumstances of Sai's fathers untimely death when he took a bullet to save Virat. But marriage happened without any of these family members consenting to it. They are actually upset with Virat for marrying her so they keep taunting Sai for everything. Also they expect that Virat will also see Sai as rude, badtameez and bring her in line. In some scenes, Sai has been a little overboard in her retorts to the older people but its all been a reaction to them instigating her. She does get along with Devi, Shivani and Ashwini and in no time has formed a great rapport with them.

Virat is usually very sorted, gentle, soft spoken but around Sai he can let loose. He shows his anger more freely with her when hes upset. He has had to suppress his emotions in front of his family. But Sai is younger than him and his wife so he feels some entitlement. Its both good and bad. Its nice that hes found someone that he can truly be himself with, not having to worry about consequences or being judged. He can show his true emotions without a filter. But if this evee crosses the line it'll not be good.

Virat knows that Sai's moral compass is always on point and her heart is in the right place. He can see that his family taunts her but he is blind to the fsct that they are "evil" to her. Since its his family he cant accept that they are not "good hearted". He thinks that in due time everything will get better. He is stuck between Sai and his family. He wants Sai to learn to behave like him- to pick her battles carefully and be diplomatic sometimes just be silent. But Sai's personality is different and while in the long run she will mellow down, her core personality is that of someone who is a little brash, outspoken and straight forward. She does not mince her words.

Some of the actions of this family definitely borders on "abuse" but in ITV they always show exaggerated drama.

Pakhi or PP/toxic didi as we all prefer to call her is definitely a villain. Shes supposed to be a grey character but shes so petty, evil, selfish and manipulative in the show that she is 100% a villain. But the family loves her because she plays her cards smartly. Virat "thought" he loved her but she had a misunderstanding, and ended up getting married to his brother and now they want to remain "friends". But toxic didi really cant let go. She wants to exert her rights on him even though she is married to someone else. She cannot respect the boundaries of their relationship. Virat just had an "infatuation". But he stupidly made a promise to her that he'd never give her place in his heart/life to anyone else and PP expects him to stay true to that. He will eventually realize that Sai is his soulmate and regret this promise. For now he seems to have a soft corner for toxic didi. Hopefully he will realize in due course that she is not what she potrays herself to be. Unfortunately Sai is not going to forget this Virat PP "friendship". She has been told that she is just a responsibility to Virat and even though shes starting to feel for him too, she will always remain insecure because of this promise that she has heard about and she is trying to guard herself from heart break. And its also a matter of self respect.

Virat's past with PP will create many hurdles in his relationship with Sai but Sairat are endgame ♥️

Sorry the last part was meant to be red

TotallyPagalSai response!

I see! That is very true - you can say respectfully go to hell. I see how that's not going to fly with her in laws.

I agree with you - he's really found himself in a situation that I don't think he ever thought his actions would lead to. But he's got a bit of a saviour complex going on which isn't letting him see how his actions have led to this and how he can undo some of that damage.

That really sucks that Kaku is like that - it would be so cool to see a family with a matriarch but all she really is doing is upholding patriarchal values. Women run and do things differently, it would've been wonderful to see how she runs the house but she just seems to be a stand in for a man with everything she enforces. No wonder the boys Virat, Samrat, and the other one, are like that.

I see its a remake - that should make their job easier though if they already have a rough story. They can mold it and make it better. But yeah so many episodes a month must take the creativity out of you.

Her behaviour towards Sai is very bad and unnecessarily cruel. Sai hasn't done anything to her directly. Although I'm not sure why Sai hated her so much from the get go but she gave Sai plenty of reasons afterwards. Such a shame to lose a character in to being a 2D villain.

It is quite enjoyable most of the time to watch but now things are getting more tangled up

I'm unable to respond to MSgayatri - it's saying spam content. But I wanted to say thank you for the response.

I agree that Sai does come across as brash but she seems to be arguing with so many people in one go so I imagine its hard to check your tone and way of speaking. I do hope they focusing on changing these mindsets otherwise what's the point of showing these things.

Thank you for shedding light on Virat's feelings- I did binge read posts on the forum to try and understand the show. One element is that Virat keeps calling Sai his Duty/responsibility. He says it so much even I know how to say it in Hindi! He keeps repeating that and it pushes her away more than he realises. Nobody wants to be called someone's responsibility- that sounds like being a burden.

With Pakhi - her MIA husband is mentioned randomly. I don't blame her for not having feelings for him because she barely knows him (arguably she barely knows Virat too). However she's getting very pushy with acting all wifey to Virat. He keeps rejecting her (not strongly enough though) and she pushes through that. If we're meant to root for her then she needs a serious redemption arc.

Originally posted by: Rishika101

Hi folks, I had a few questions that I'm a bit confused on. For context, I watch this show with my MIL because I'm trying to bond with her and my hindi is not that good. She really likes to watch this show so I'm trying to understand it. I can't ask her because she doesn't speak English and I don't want her to think I'm dumb.

1) How is Sai rude? The translations on TV are not that good but everytime I watch her on TV she seems to be saying logical responses although a little bit long winded. Is it her tone? Is she swearing at them or something? The translations will translate what she is saying and then the other person will call her rude or mannerless but its a bit confusing. For example that scene where she's in the pink outfit and Virat is wearing the yellow jacket. She tells him to stop yelling otherwise his friend will barge in to the room but then he says don't cross the line/limit. But how did she do that? I'm sorry if this sounds really dumb but I don't get how this connection of her being rude is made repeatedly. I know that in Hindi when you say Aap to somebody its polite, and I think she talks to everyone using that.

2) How is Virat's anger normal? He seems to have anger issues but its very jarring to see because I don't remember it being that bad in the earlier episodes. He yells at Sai horribly, and its worse because she's what 18? That's a child to him. And he never answers her questions logically. Either that or I'm not getting what he is saying. There are so many instances where he speaks very generally or like weirdly phrases something but I don't get how that's answering Sai's argument. He also has a lot of toxic masculinity that nobody calls out, even Sai doesn't. He seemed nice earlier on but now he seems like he cares more about his validation from Sai when he's the one who's meant to be in a caring role.

3) This whole housework thing - I don't get how it all works. So the kaku lady doesn't do anything and neither do the men of the house so it's the 3 DILs and Virat's mum and the other lady (the one who has her hair in a plait). Why isn't the work split up first of all? Joint family is like living in a dorm right? You split up all the tasks amongst everyone. Shouldn't Virat and Sai split up their tasks in half and do it? Wouldn't that be fair? Before Virat got married who did his tasks? This seemed to be a big argument but I don't get how its an argument because all these people are modern. I thought Virat is meant to be well educated so why would he continue to endorse this way of living. I would understand if Sai is a housewife but she clearly is not.

4) Is none of this classed as domestic abuse? How's it shown on prime time television. Virat who is the protagonist and we're meant to root for him doesn't seem to object any of the name calling, bullying and mental abuse under his own home.

5) Is Pakhi a main lead or villain? I don't get if we are meant to feel bad for her or still root for her? Is she eventually going to get with Virat, as in like a proper love triangle or what. Her and Virat seem to really long for each other but I'm not sure because he seems to also like Sai but I guess not in that way?

I tried to search online but this forum was the closest thing I found to a discussion space. Not bashing the show! I quite like the back and forth between the characters even if it is getting a bit repetitive at times but I am just confused about these things.

Ok first of all, bang on girl you are right about everything, someone should these to CV's.

Originally posted by: Rishika101

I'm unable to respond to MSgayatri - it's saying spam content. But I wanted to say thank you for the response.

I agree that Sai does come across as brash but she seems to be arguing with so many people in one go so I imagine its hard to check your tone and way of speaking. I do hope they focusing on changing these mindsets otherwise what's the point of showing these things.

Thank you for shedding light on Virat's feelings- I did binge read posts on the forum to try and understand the show. One element is that Virat keeps calling Sai his Duty/responsibility. He says it so much even I know how to say it in Hindi! He keeps repeating that and it pushes her away more than he realises. Nobody wants to be called someone's responsibility- that sounds like being a burden.

With Pakhi - her MIA husband is mentioned randomly. I don't blame her for not having feelings for him because she barely knows him (arguably she barely knows Virat too). However she's getting very pushy with acting all wifey to Virat. He keeps rejecting her (not strongly enough though) and she pushes through that. If we're meant to root for her then she needs a serious redemption arc.

Happy to help....

With Tele show, on most occasion drama is centered around traditional mindset and celebrations.... So I really doubt if this or any other show will try and change that.... For example, this show had a major drama on one function of feeding the priest (mahabhoj).... Another one is on the way, again for some kind of traditional function (some panchami)

Virat is yet to figure out how to freely an effectively communicate with sai... I am guessing that causes his zimmedari outburst... An true that no one will enjoy being called tat so frequently... Sai being a teen, ends up taunting or bringing up that topic knowing and unknowingly... I think she wants to repeat that she is temporary In his life so as to not grow lot of attachment conciously.... An virat, who is kinda traditional, will not be leaving sai but is yet to make sai understand and believe that

There was this fight after Aniket incident where he gives certain rational reasons to have support system an family and partner.... Tele show will take more time before the big lovey dovey confession

Pakhi was written quite weirdly.... Supposedly falling in love with sm1 u hardly interacted for two hours an jumping to conclusions about him and blocking his number And out of the blue agreeing to marry just any1..... She has been a confused person... Rash decision making and basically crying over spilled milk...

Having sympathy for her gets difficult cos those choices were her own... Virat and sai had circumstances and village people to blame but Pakhi has her own self....

Better to move on with the choice you made instead of looking back and feeling not positive things...

Being torn between duties towards husband and his family and heart (virat)an all would have made lil sense...but here her only focus is virat and the whole family is blind to see that....

Come to think of it, the chavan family is quite modern to accept Pakhi and virat as friends but gets traditional is letting sai and Ashwini study.... Weird lot of people indeed

Originally posted by: Rishika101

Hi folks, I had a few questions that I'm a bit confused on. For context, I watch this show with my MIL because I'm trying to bond with her and my hindi is not that good. She really likes to watch this show so I'm trying to understand it. I can't ask her because she doesn't speak English and I don't want her to think I'm dumb.

1) How is Sai rude? The translations on TV are not that good but everytime I watch her on TV she seems to be saying logical responses although a little bit long winded. Is it her tone? Is she swearing at them or something? The translations will translate what she is saying and then the other person will call her rude or mannerless but its a bit confusing. For example that scene where she's in the pink outfit and Virat is wearing the yellow jacket. She tells him to stop yelling otherwise his friend will barge in to the room but then he says don't cross the line/limit. But how did she do that? I'm sorry if this sounds really dumb but I don't get how this connection of her being rude is made repeatedly. I know that in Hindi when you say Aap to somebody its polite, and I think she talks to everyone using that.

Most of the times when they accuse her of being rude, I actually don't find her to be rude.. generally whatever she says makes more sense than even virat sometimes (who's supposed to be the more sorted one). And most of the times her "rude" behavior is reactionary to the "more rude" things done and said to her, and to me it's justified too... why should anyone be tolerating such nonsense?

Yeah her tone goes overboard sometimes and that doesn't go well with the regressive set up of the family.. but tgere have been many instances where she tried to answer politely like the chilli grinding incident where she was very normally saying that she has her college and won't be able to do the work. But the matriarch still didn't give in.. the main reason is that the family is just hell bent to belittle that 18 year old, NO MATTER WHAT!

2) How is Virat's anger normal? He seems to have anger issues but its very jarring to see because I don't remember it being that bad in the earlier episodes. He yells at Sai horribly, and its worse because she's what 18? That's a child to him. And he never answers her questions logically. Either that or I'm not getting what he is saying. There are so many instances where he speaks very generally or like weirdly phrases something but I don't get how that's answering Sai's argument. He also has a lot of toxic masculinity that nobody calls out, even Sai doesn't. He seemed nice earlier on but now he seems like he cares more about his validation from Sai when he's the one who's meant to be in a caring role.

He comes across to me as a double faced man till now, or he's just cofused, I don't know. As Sai pointed out a few episodes ago, his right and wrong keep on changing, and that changes according to people he's pitted against. For the things he screams at Sai, he won't even utter a word if anyone from his family or even pakhi said the same.. Which is something not acceptable to me.

He has a lot of wrong perceptions about people the biggest one being that Pakhi is very "mature" and Sai is "immature" whereas actually it's mostly vice versa. Sai maybe 'mufat' but she has a clear thought process and clear stands on things which he sometimes overlooks. Because of these perceptions he doesn't really say anything to pakhi.

He has been raised to believe that the way his family works is actually the "right" way hiw families are or should be. He's accustomed to seeing his mother being belittled by his father and other elders of tge house, however he doesn't endorse it, but somehow it's engraved in his mind. He thinks that answering back to anyone particularly elders is a bad thing no matter what. And sai being his "responsiblity" or "wife" shouldn't be doing that too. He has a sense of authority towards Sai.. that's why he has this right to scream at her if she doesn't listen.

3) This whole housework thing - I don't get how it all works. So the kaku lady doesn't do anything and neither do the men of the house so it's the 3 DILs and Virat's mum and the other lady (the one who has her hair in a plait). Why isn't the work split up first of all? Joint family is like living in a dorm right? You split up all the tasks amongst everyone. Shouldn't Virat and Sai split up their tasks in half and do it? Wouldn't that be fair? Before Virat got married who did his tasks? This seemed to be a big argument but I don't get how its an argument because all these people are modern. I thought Virat is meant to be well educated so why would he continue to endorse this way of living. I would understand if Sai is a housewife but she clearly is not.

4) Is none of this classed as domestic abuse? How's it shown on prime time television. Virat who is the protagonist and we're meant to root for him doesn't seem to object any of the name calling, bullying and mental abuse under his own home.

5) Is Pakhi a main lead or villain? I don't get if we are meant to feel bad for her or still root for her? Is she eventually going to get with Virat, as in like a proper love triangle or what. Her and Virat seem to really long for each other but I'm not sure because he seems to also like Sai but I guess not in that way?

Pakhi is an outright villain to me. She's delusional. I don't how an educated travel blogger (I don't remember correctly what her job was) be so dumb. She has considered a 2 day meeting with a guy to be her lifelong love.. so much so that she agreed to marry his brother just to stay around him. Even if all these things had not happened and if she had ended up with Virat, I still feel she's essentially not a good at heart character. She's evil, manipulative, selfish and a liar. She's made enemies with sai without sai having done anything wrong to her directly. I think it's her basic nature which has more of negative traits. So according to me, she's the vamp here.

I tried to search online but this forum was the closest thing I found to a discussion space. Not bashing the show! I quite like the back and forth between the characters even if it is getting a bit repetitive at times but I am just confused about these things.

First of all, all your questions are bang on!

Thank you for stating them.. it's no language barrier.. I inspite of knowing hindi I myself have the same doubts about the story. My thoughts are in bold.