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Posted: 13 years ago
@Exactly! I mean SO's other really good shows like MJHT and DMG were also about romance but they also had that "youth" tag. GHSP, however, was universal and everybody could relate and watch it. There was enough depth for more serious viewers who took the time to see it as well as viewers who just watched it as a show, though I am sure even they felt the depth even if hey didn't articulate it in a space like this one. My point is, that everybody loves a good story, especially a love story and that is why Bollywood movies were so good at their OTT best in the 90s like KKHH and DDLJ etc.

Now bigger channels are cashing in on this concept of the love story, and people growing into love with one another. Another thing I think started with GHSP was the strong, complex male protagonist who had just as much a right to have emotions, be hurt, tricked and confused and love deeply. From the beginning, MSK had clear feelings and reactions and wasn't just an object for Geet to work off of. I was watching that first scene Shivi put up this morning and Maan's expression when Geet ties the hanky on his hand says it all. The fact that he is so shaken by her one simple gesture of selfless kindness shows how much hostility he is used to in his life, that he can be so surprised and touched by such a simple thing she did. His character had depth and history and meaning.

I see that happening a lot again in shows now. Even in a show like DABH, which to a large extent follows the saas-bahu model until now, has such a strong male lead. This is new for that genre I think, where men were always at the office or being fooled into thinking their wives were cheating by their evil mothers etc. Here the male protaginist is finding a way to bring his wife and his mother to an understanding and that sort of quietly strong male always echoes MSK for me, even though the characters are leagues apart. They have a voice, they have feelings, they react.

Good night then! Sweet MSK dreams! 😊
Edited by Samanalyse - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
@ All: Hi again people!


And I so don't want DD to work with Ekta...I don't watch any other hindi TV show but have gotten an idea of the shows. From what I know of Ekta her shows start of fine but then go downhill (far far far far far worse than Geet ever could be).

I agree to a certain extent that we shouldn't attempt to copy the show again but I think with a new story, our leads will shine again.

Gurti are amazing individually but together they create magic and so it won't be wrong to say that whatever new show they do TOGETHER would be amazing!
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Posted: 13 years ago
@Sammy
U really think so about the shift???...Naaa
Look at all TRP gaing shows which are named NO. 1...and No. 2 and so onnn
Tell me...Do we even get to see half the things on leads which we saw with Maaneet????
I have been a part of such a TRP show Bidaai...till the end we kept on crying for Ragini Ranvee love and romance .. do u know what responce we used to get... RAOMANCE DOES NOT GET TRP's, DRAMA is needed...
That is exactly what Star Plus and Colors show are doing...baby swapping, Woman torcher, marriage swapping, guy marring 1534345 tiimes and claming he loves all his wifes bla bla bla
Let me be honest...Geet on STAR PLUS NEVER WOULD HAVE BEEN SAME...trust me...
WE were spoiled bunch...we have got few epis where it was 22 mins maaneet...or atleast 15 mins maaneet...
I was watching the cookery show today ..and what i see the heroin all 😳...
And this same thing will be shown in LIFE OK now😳...YIKESSS🤢...
as though shows claiming to be REAL LIFE DRAMA are not enough
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Posted: 13 years ago
@Z..
Well..that is the reason we LOVE GEET...
But channels like Star Plus and mainly COLORs will never get that...
they only see TRP's and what gets TRP is Drama...
let me tell u..Star Plus Gives a DAM to Net fans and that is the harsh reality we faced when we were fighting for Bidaai...
let us face fact guys...Channel's do not work on EMOTIONS but TRP...even if DIRTIEST OF TRACK GIVES THEM TRP's THEY WILL DO IT...
be it marriage, child, man, woman swapping anything
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Posted: 13 years ago
@Anu: See, when I say shift I don't mean like all of a sudden they are going to do pure love stories like Geet. What I mean is that they are leaning more in that direction, rather than focusing only on drama. Couples are being introduced and built up slowly and you can't deny that SP has also started catering to a youth audience now, while the wife-swapping, child-swapping shows were mainly for housewives etc. Even big channels like Sony, Zee etc are doing the same with their new shows. The one show is gaining high TRPs but it is the last of its genre, I think.

Colors has now become the only channel that is still catering to that drama, drama, drama formula if you really think about it. So yeah, there is a shift. It doesn't mean that shows have no drama left but there is definitely more emphasis on the strong couple dealing with things aspect of things, rather than them being separated.
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Posted: 13 years ago
Now it looks like even in the SP show the story is over lavanya will leave arnav shyam is exposed his truth is revealed in front of khushi so now it will either be KMH1 or a saas bahu saga
tell me honestly is there any kind of chemistry beteen the leads
Now so wish that if we eve get a season 2 of geet it should be in some other channel Life ok is a depressed channel I don't know something inside me tells me that it will meet the same fate as channel 9x met
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Posted: 13 years ago
Samana sorry to interrup tell me honestly are the love stories shown in SP strong like maneet couples hardly interact with one another we always said that maneet lack communication but couples in SP do not have this much communication also they are mere puppets in the hands of their families
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Posted: 13 years ago
@Priya: Why would you say sorry? 😕😆

Let me try to explain my viewpoint better. I am not in any way trying to compare these stories or shows to Geet. They don't come anywhere close to what Geet meant and how important it was.

What I am saying is that Geet and its success has been the inspiration for a shift in the content of new shows on popular channels which previously catered only to drama and had little logic. Now more people are introducing stories with genuine human emotions at the core rather than drama. But they can't change all of a sudden because they would lose their huge housewife viewership from the saas-bahu days so the shows have a mix of the old family drama and the new pure romance to maintain a balance so that all in the family can watch and enjoy.

Saas-bahu shows were timepass mostly, but shows now all the big channels seem to be reaching out to serious viewers and trying to make shows that people actually want to watch, rather than ones that become a habit after a while. I think Geet showed people that TV can break out of the vicious cycle of saas bahu drama and be deeply meaningful to people, like it hasn't been since what I hear about 80s Doordarshan. So the big channels are also bringing elements of this genuine human touch to their shows, from what I can see.

Also, I think the fact that epic romance is fast disappearing or pretty much disappeared from our movies, which was a staple for so long is causing TV to fill that niche. Bollywood is a wasteland of veteran actors children with average to acceptable talent. TV has become the new place for real craft to be shown and for stories to touch people the way movies used to before 2008ish..

I hope I am making sense..😕
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Posted: 13 years ago

All said & done moral of the story is that if we succeed in getting a season 2 the script should be a strong one I once said this long time back that simply mahi moments are not enough to make a series hitthere should be a story of maneet as well

I even said that in case we get a season 2 it should have the leads having a dark background story of their own which will lead to passion so incase we get a season 2 the story story should be atrong one maan&geet should be headstrong individuals who live life on their terms irrespective of their dark backgrounds
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Posted: 13 years ago
Just made a separate post but pasting the same in Den also 😛
I know many are here fighting for season 2 of Geet with Maaneet and GC-DD while many are confused with rumours doing the rounds regarding GC-DD signing separate shows ...but all I can say is that believe things only which r official on board and if actors sign new shows we will get official articles on them ...but till then we can cash on this following article which itself says Brand Gurti sells and even actors admitting it and so we can motivate ourselves to fight for season 2 by cashing on this article which is not coming from any birdie but from a reputed newspaper ...
So now its upto us whether we will believe this newspaper's words or random birdie news 😊
Here is the Article (Read the bold lines in between)

Popular small screen couples are the latest brand-building tools of advertisers, says Divya Kaushik

Toasty and Tej had an argument over the wall paint they should do up their room with. For a change they were not discussing family conflict and were having a friendly duel. Likewise, Vikram and Neha finally got a piece of their own life, away from Ram Kapoor and Priya, and bought their new car. The two onscreen couples from Sony TV's popular series, Saas Bina Sasural and Bade Achche Lagte Hain, have been picked up by Dulux and Hyundai Eon to market their latest product line. Meanwhile, Priya herself was picked up by Boroline to advise viewers on skin care.
Advertisers are beginning to aggressively cash in on the familiarity of TV couples to influence household buying patterns in a sluggish economy. Though popular TV faces have been ripe pickings for endorsements for quite sometime, onscreen couples are being approached by marketers to promote their brand and connect with the masses not just as actors, but as characters from the serial. The reason: their on-screen chemistry, easy camaraderie and next door appeal easily percolates to the masses, women in particular, still the decision makers in the family and a potent force when it comes to household buying behaviour. And when it comes to targetting the middle class, there could be no better brand ambassadors.

Market logic

Companies are following the segmentation formula, whereby they identify a certain range of products from the same brand stable for promotion by TV stars. HCL computers successfully used Star Plus couples like Akshara and Naitik (Hena Khan and Karan Mehra) of Yeh Rishta Kya Kehlata Hai to convince viewers about availing a really cool Diwali deal in two separate advertisements. And Hindustan Tin Works recently picked Geet aka Drashti Dhami of Star One's Geet Hui Sabse Parayi to educate households and slum children about reusing product cans. Though the series has gone off air, Drashti is hot brand ambassador choice along with, as she corrects us, Maan aka Gurmeet Chaudhury. "People do not just see me as an individual but as part of the popular onscreen pair Maan-Geet. The serial has ended but I am still flooded with requests to appear in ad campaigns together with Maan and we will not mind doing a few if they are based on interesting concepts and if the product values match the values of the characters that we have together played on screen." With about 2,000 fan pages and women of all ages rooting for their return to TV or in a sequel, this couple has generated a buzz and is trending on social media platforms.

So why have TV star couples suddenly gone up in brand value? Adman Prahlad Kakkar explains, "TV star couples come at a lower price than Bollywood star couples and are ideal fits for home brands, particularly those that concern themselves with social messaging, health, food, clothing lines, small cars, fitness, appliances and so on. They allow for a much greater spread of the product philosophy than Bollywood couples, who are usually used for boutique products rather than the assembly line." It is an established fact that celebrity endorsement can bestow unique features or special attributes upon a product that it may have lacked otherwise. Somehow, TV stars come shorn of that facade, they lend credibility.

Adds Gurmeet, who along with Drashti has won fan polls as the SRK-Kajol of the TV industry, "There could be no bigger honour than that comparison. I am happy that fans love to see us so much onscreen. In the end, be it Bollywood or Tellywood... if each individual does his/her work well individually in his/her professional capacity and you have a great story, then that is the chemistry that works on the masses."

Mass appeal

That chemistry is working as Indian TV matures and gets more realistic about its connect with the people. Characters have become more rounded, their conflicts are real and the viewer almost feels like a guest participant in each day of their onscreen lives. "The Eon ad that we did together was proposed to us by Sony, as the channel thought Tarana and me, featured as a middle class couple in Bade Achche Lagte Hai, would drive the message home. Our characters often discuss budgeting, kids' education and other financial problems like every other couple. So if we are endorsing a budget car, the consumer connects it with his affordability," says Jai Kalra aka Vikram.

Advertising research companies have found that TV actors bring reliability and trust to the brand and above all help in increasing sales revenues. Explains Atit Bhatia, senior vice president, Hindustan Tin Works and president, Canvironment week, "Drashti as an ambassador of this programme was a fantastic choice as scores of housewives participated just because they wanted to meet Geet. A bigger celebrity wouldn't have done better. TV actors today are not just a name in India but have an equal recall value among NRIs."

Easy recall value

How does that happen? Courtesy the repeat telecasts and frequent teasers, even the most reluctant couch surfer, for whom serials are anathema, would chance upon a familiar face more than once. "Whenever people see a regular ad of the same brand on hoardings, they will think about the TV spot. Ravi Dubey (Tej) and I have become the face of Dulux paints. We enjoy an easy recall value," says Aishwarya Sakhuja, who plays Toasty.

You can gauge the popularity and connect of small screen actors by the fact that last year, consumers were eager to buy packets of Suhana phuljharis and Akshara anars. Small scale manufacturers have understood this appeal the best and have used it to their advantage. "Advertisers know TV actors at this point of time are a safe bet," says Ragini Khanna, otherwise Suhana of Sasural Genda Phool.

A win-win situation

Though these latest campaigns were executed by the channels and their advertisers, the actors readily agreed because the ads were bringing them additional fame. "Actors in commercials appear as onscreen characters and not as individual stars. Still it shores up their star value. Actors have always been a medium for brand development by channels and endorsement by an onscreen couple is just one of the ways," says Sanjeet Saha, vice president, international business, Star Network.

Hena Khan, alias Akshara, is clearly basking in reflected glory. "After doing so many endorsements as Akshara, I've realised I have become a part of every family. Housewives relate to my ideal bahu character and feel I am part of their fraternity. So they would love to use the cream I use and try the tea they see me drinking on screen. Endorsing a brand helps the star step out of the boundaries of the serial and establish an identity that would help in his/her future career graph."

As television expands its reach and proves itself as an effective marketing tool, its stars seem to be making an impact on the knowledgable consumer who is becoming shy of big celebrity endorsements and cynical about a biggie's belief in something as basic as a pain balm.

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Article Quotes the actress Drashti herself ...so I guess we can believe this more than anything else ...and if everyone in the market realises that GC-DD together sells as Maan-Geet and also r aware that fans r fighting for a new season which the article itself says ,shouln't we believe this and continue with our fight ??
We can actually send this article to star one people and show them what they lost and what they can actually gain again by getting a new season ...
See there will many rumours flooding around regarding GC and DD from here on ...few days back birdies said GC will do cameo in a show ...then birdies said DD going to dubai with Mel and today birdies said GC and DD signing separate shows mayb ..
There r lots of news floating but we dunno the truth ...
As far as I think from my common sense ..both GC and DD might b getting offers from all but getting offers and signing them r two different things and both might take a month off for rest ...so they wont sign anything new for at least a month now ...and this gives us a months time to actually fight for season 2 😳
See we hv nothing to loose ..the day actors sign different shows and we know it from official articles ,we can respect their choice and move on in our lives😆 but till then we can fight for something which not just we believe in but even the market believes in as per this very important article ...right 😃😃...
Till now we were termed as silly fans wanting to make Gurti a brand forcibly but see this article proves that we r not really silly to believe Gurti are a brand because even the market believes the same and wants to cash on both the actors ...so we were not fool to believe that Gurti sells even after show is over 😊

So take this article as inspiration and keep the hallabol on 😳


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