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Posted: 13 years ago
So, what is a social issue -- which is necessarily based on social values -- that shows are not obliged to portray?

And, what are the social values -- which eventually lead to social issues -- that they absolutely cannot tamper with in the name of entertainment? From what has been set out above, it would appear to be the following:
  • Religious sentiments given that we are a secular country?
  • Absence of deceit before a couple marries?
  • A regressive depiction of woman?
But, who decides what is acceptable and what is not?

Edit

Work beckons and so I must retire from this discussion too. Au revoir.


Edited by hegdemedha - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
@Medha
No re...That was just a example of Devini staying away which I gave...
See to be frank even in story line when all are interested in seeing Maaneet love to unfold when Maaneet scenes are abruptly ended as Jyoti said does it not effect the flow of the show...and social issue has nothing to do here...
Tell me when I want to enjoy Maaneet's new beginning how much will i enjoy it been interupted by Dev and Nandini basless love story ...when I know what the character Dev has done in past ...again social issue has nothing to do here
all i ment was if Maaneet scenes are completed and than if they show Devini without making it effect Maaneets character no one would crib so much...hai na😊
U get attached to a character ... its happiness makes u happy...sadness makes u sad...and foolishness makes u angry..simple
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Posted: 13 years ago
Anu, one last question -- is not a non-tolerance for deceit or certain other acts a social issue?

Is it not to stem this issue and to prevent the wronged person from taking individual retribution that the State steps in and enacts and implements penal laws (laws that define offences and prescribe penalty for them)?


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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: hegdemedha

So, what is a social issue -- which is necessarily based on social values -- that shows are not obliged to portray?

And, what are the social values -- which eventually lead to social issues -- that they absolutely cannot tamper with in the name of entertainment? From what has been set out above, it would appear to be the following:

    Religious sentiments given that we are a secular country? Absence of deceit before a couple marries?
  • A regressive depiction of woman?
But, who decides what is acceptable and what is not?


@Bold:500 houses from 4 major cities hving the TAM machine(for trps) in a country which hv millions of population 😆😆😆
First we need to think about this social issue before thinking about other social issues 😆😆
Edited by jyoti06 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago

@Maliha: Congrats for opening the den today, all the best 😆, now I am going to sleep 🥱

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Posted: 13 years ago
New article saying that maan will come to know about dev nandini marriage:-(its posted by tanu in main forum.
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: jyoti06

@Opti:I could not enjoy the saree scene because entire episode was dominated by Devini and the whole flow was interrupted ..so I said the impact was not felt ..nothing to do with any social message here 😆...and about Anandi ..dekh lena in the end Jagya and Anandi will come together because colors is all set to give them the best jodi award in thier new talent award show 🤣🤣🤣🤣...

We'll have to wait before we pass a judgement on that.
And about LTL ,no replacement actor gets good money because repalcement always hv its own disadvantages 😳
Well, Mishal left because of problems with the PH and channel and the channel wanted a strong replacement to show that they can carry on the show without him. It became an ego issue. Shabbo was approached right after Mishal left but since he was busy with his guiness show, he could not take it up. If they were just looking for a replacement, they could have taken anybody but they waited till he finished that show before taking him on board. Datta Bau went missing for long to make way for this plot. Now tell me why would they go out of the way for Shabbir? And why would Shabbir take it on unless it is for good money as you yourself said replacements have disadvantages?
@Medha:There r things which cannot b taken as entertainment as well as a social message ...marriage is an institution and taking it as challenge and making a joke of it goes against our hindu religion or sentiments...so when it comes to religious issues ,every show should try and respect it and not make fun of it ...but hving said that ,it has nothing to do with social message ..both r different things altogether and should not b mixed here 😊

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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: Meetu_Anu

@Medha

No re...That was just a example of Devini staying away which I gave...
See to be frank even in story line when all are interested in seeing Maaneet love to unfold when Maaneet scenes are abruptly ended as Jyoti said does it not effect the flow of the show...and social issue has nothing to do here...
Tell me when I want to enjoy Maaneet's new beginning how much will i enjoy it been interupted by Dev and Nandini basless love story ...when I know what the character Dev has done in past ...again social issue has nothing to do here
all i ment was if Maaneet scenes are completed and than if they show Devini without making it effect Maaneets character no one would crib so much...hai na😊
U get attached to a character ... its happiness makes u happy...sadness makes u sad...and foolishness makes u angry..simple

Anu, did you not complain when they showed AA con? Was the argument at the time not how they can show the belittling of women in such a manner where a man uses a woman inorder to get back against her brother?And worse still for the woman to still pine for him even after knowing she was taken advantage of? Now where was Maaneet involved there? Still many of us boiled at the slur on womanhood. Now that is a social issue to me.
So you dont have a problem with Dev not telling about his past to Nandu and marrying her fraudulently as long as Maaneet are not involved in it?
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Posted: 13 years ago
Hello all, so what's cooking and what's not!

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Posted: 13 years ago

@Opti

Ok..Let me tell u about me 😊...
I was irritated with NE track simply because
1. They never used Arjun's character to full potential...he came to challange MSK we were thinking of a good battle between Maan and Arjun..but that track was reduced to dust by not using the characters properly...
2. We did talk about using a woman...which was a part of our discussion...but my friends who do not come to IF and my family who watch the show just had one thing to say ...**where did this lady appear from ..claiming to be MSK's sister** ... they never took all this so serciously as we had discussed it...
The point here is when we discuss the show to lenght here we are bound to see the story and how it went...
we were angry at the story write because they never used other potential sequences to make audience accept NE and Arjun...insted went on to ruine Maaneet marriage fun as well...
Now this was why I was angry at first point...than yes in discussion we did mention that woman are been used to vench revenge...but there is no social message here...but butchring of a potential story plot...
Actors
See...a actor is known by his hard work...his screen presence and fan power...
Once a a peoplar character ends...it is very difficuilt for actor to convinence the audience...Actors themself get so used to fan praising and love that they try to fine it in ever character they play...but unfortunately not all the characters get on to become a hit😊...
U tell me ... In Kumkum ...Sumit the character was loved and even Kumkum Sumit Jodi won best jodie many times...but after the show have Those actors indivisually attained that fame which they got in KumKum..No...
They may have done other shows...but the impact which they created and the love they got as Kumkum and Sumit was gone forever..
saying this I never say actors should stick to a single show..like Smriti Irani did...but they should be smart enough to get the Max when they can😊

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