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Posted: 14 years ago
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WOW!!!! What an episode!!!! Mindblowing!!! Whoever was saying Geet is a weak character....should go and watch today's episode....Geet redefines strong....and sets a very very very high unattainable standard for all the female protagonists in the telly world.....

I must really applaud the complete team for this wonderful episode....and GC and DD...you truly deserve a standing ovation!!!!

What dialogues, what acting, what emotions....OMG....GHSP ROCKS!!!!

First, Geet felt miserable and torn for having hidden the reality from Maan and causing him pain . And when she saw him seething in anger and hurting with pain while doing AAg-chi...she just could not hold herself back anymore....She went to him and told him the whole truth not fearing the consequences. She told him everything without leaving out even a teeny-weeny detail....She thought he would understand her circumstances and empathise with her and also forgive her for hiding the truth from him...But that was not to be....

Maan in his anger lashed out at her and said the unthinkable and unforgivable words ..."Toh Mujhe Mar Jaane Diya Hota"...she could not believe her ears....she could not fathom the fact that Maan could even think such a thing let alone say it....her anger burst out....she gave him a piece of her mind.....Told him without mincing words that he was a selfish fool who was eaten up only by his hatred....He could never see beyond that....He could not see her pain and her anguish....He didn't even think for a moment about her or their child ...he did not even take into consideration what would happen to her and his child in his absence....And also most importantly, he didn't even consider how she must have felt to plead in front of that low-life Dev, the man who had completely destroyed her life....No .....all he could think about was himself and his own animosity towards his brother...She ends her tirade by saying that...she doesn't recognise this man...he is not the one she fell in love with....A man consumed by anger and bitterness is not her Maan....Thus saying she leaves....Leaving behind a shamed man.

The echoing of her words makes Maan realise his folly and he runs to Geet to apologise.

This scene overshadowed even the Aag-Chi scene for me...Although GC was looking super hot!!!

Geet's talk with the baby overheard by Maan made him realise the depth of the hurt that he had caused Geet and started him on a path of his penance

Maan's self-flagellation for causing so much pain to Geet with his unbridled anger was excellently emoted by GC....

Daadima wisely advising Maan to quit moping and start acting was very apt....This is what elders do...they show you the right path when you are confused and lost....See Daadi cannot be evil...She is just a typical Daadi looking out for the well-being of her grandchildren....although she does go overboard in this sometime...but which grandma doesn't in her indulgence of her grandkids....

Maan's knows that mere words are not going to get him a forgiveness from Geet, he will have to show her in action that he is repentant and is willing to change his ways......Him stopping Dev in the final precap was a step in that direction

The first precap showed Maan telling Geet to lash back at him and not give him the silent treatment....This basically goes to show that this time Geet is not willing to forgive and forget easily like she has done so many times in the past,....This time Maan has hurt her very soul and he will have to work really hard to heal it....He will have to keep on trying to till she relents

GC and DD were incomparable....they were so good that I don't think anyone can match them in their emoting skills

The camerawork, the direction, the screenplay, the editing, the BG music have been exceptional the past couple of episodes and I hope it stays that ways.

At the risk of being repetitive or even plagiaristic...coz I know many would have written the same thing....I really felt that I was again watching the GHSP of yore...and was extremely happy....So, the whole team of GHSP take a bow and keep doling out such outstanding episodes and we will keep loving you....😊


Edited by panchjun5 - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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I.My take on yesterday's episode

I
've mostly been absent in the den not only because I was busy with my fic but also because I couldn't predict where this track was going.So decided to wait and watch. But today am I glad that I am still watching this show which had lost a lot of lustre in recent period.


For the first time they got the high point in the show right. I had resigned myself to seeing them mess this one up as they did with all the other high points in the show but they pleasantly surprised me. I thought they would tread the beaten path of jealousy, suspicion and accusation of betrayal but instead they made this to be about Maan and his hatred for his brother overpowering all his other feelings. A deep and well thought out track. I'm loving it.



Geet and Maan were totally in character today. Geet proved that she is different from so many soap heroines. She did not want a third person speak for her. She decided to tackle her problems herself. She took the bull by the horns both figuratively and literally and knocked at Maan's conscience. She had set aside her hatred for the man who wronged her for the sake of the man who saved her and loved her and whom she, inturn, loves deeply. Maan momentarily forgot his love for her and their baby and let his hatred for his brother take over him. Ironically he is angry with his brother for what he did to his wife but did not think how much he was hurting that very wife by asking her why she did not let him die than let him survive with his brother's blood.

With Maan realising his mistake, they have set the stage for Dev's presence in Khurana House. A very plausible and believable entry indeed. Maan would now want to subdue his anger and hatred against Dev and would go out of the way to do so. This may embolden Dev into taking greater chances. His goody goody image may just pull the wool over everyone's eyes. Hope Geet does not get fooled by it and remains always vigilant.


The dialogues, the acting, the execution, everything was simply superb.



II.My random thoughts on the changing phases of Maan's character - a character that has been irrationally consistent.


Prior to meeting Geet, Maan was a bundle of complex emotions which he kept well hidden from the rest of the world. All he let Geet and the rest of world see of him was his indifference and arrogance. Geet changed it all. She basically turned an anti-social, highly egoistic, arrogant and grumpy man who had a very low level of tolerance for inefficiency, lies or betrayal into a humane, loving, caring, selfless and tolerant man who re-learnt to smile. Thanks to Geet, he learnt to live and not merely exist as he did before her entry in to his life. She did not have to go on a mission to change him but did so by just being herself. If one recalls, after he returns from HP, he settles all Dev's past debts and was prepared to welcome him back to Khurana House, willing to forgive and forget whatever it was that irked him about his wayward and gambling behavior. So Geet's magic started to work even before he even liked her, let alone, love her.

We have seen innumerable grand instances of Maan saving Geet's life. Geet's influence on Maan's life has been more subtle and continuous. He did not realize when he was changing but he did and the change was gradual. This is not to say he was completely transformed. The change brought with it its own share of side effects. It heightened the buried insecurities stemming from his mysterious past, turning him into an irrational and possessive man every time he was under threat of losing her. So whenever he thought he was losing Geet, he reverted to his original self. We saw that happen when Geet revealed her pregnancy and later her painful past. We saw that happen when she left him thinking that he was playing with her feeling sand supporting his brother. Every time this happened, he first turned his anger into himself, hurting and punishing himself before lashing out on the woman he loved.

His extreme love for the woman sometimes brought with it queer logic. When she says that she wants to quit her job, he equated it to her wanting to quit his life. If she kept things back from him, he presumed that it was because she was wrong although she may have done it to spare him pain. Surprisingly he did not apply this twisted logic on himself. He has kept several things from her but then if he keeps secrets, it is for her own good and not because he was guilty. Come to think of it, the whole misunderstanding track would not have happened had he confided in her about his intention to bail out Dev for a few hours for his Dadi's sake but then he did not see it that way. At the end of that track we saw Geet literally groveling to let him take her back. More recently, when he decided to postpone consummating his marriage till Geet was declared physically fit by her doctor, he decided to keep it from her for her 'own good'. Later when Geet came to know the truth, she was the one groveling again to be forgiven for misunderstanding him. Yes, he apologized for hiding the truth, but it came from his lips and not from his heart.

The tables were turned this time. Geet had to save Maan's life by seeking help from the one person she detested the most, his brother Dev. She had to plead with the man who wronged her, to donate blood to a brother who hated him. She did it for her man but could not work up the courage to reveal it to him although she never stopped feeling guilty for not being able to do so. As she feared, when he came to know the partial truth, he turned his anger into himself. So she had to tell him everything and she did say it all as she had done in the past. His immediate reaction was as irrational as it was in the past. He equated her secrecy with guilt and wrong doing. Here lies the disparity in his thinking. When he keeps things from it is for her own good but then when she does the same thing he cannot believe it could be for his own good and not because she was hiding her faults.

The irony of it all was that he thought his hatred and anger for his brother was because of what that brother did to the woman he loved but he ended up letting the fire of hatred and anger grow so such proportions that it scorched the woman for whom he let it burn.


Looking at this differently, when Geet's life was in danger after the sauna incident, Maan chose her life over that of her baby, knowing how much she loved that baby. Similarly when Maan's life was in danger, she chose his life over her hatred for the man who was to save him, knowing how much he hated him. Both these incidents showed just how much both Maan and Geet valued the other's life but Maan had momentarily failed to see this when he lashed out at her.

The difference between his fury yesterday and those of earlier occasions was that in earlier cases his anger stemmed from his fear of losing her. In other words, his love for Geet made him an irrational man. Yesterday, though, his anger stemmed from his hatred for his brother. Unfortunately his hatred for Dev overrode his love for Geet. That is why Maan felt miserable when Geet made him see himself. His love for Geet had changed him for the better but he realized that his hatred for Dev has changed him for the worse.


Edited by Opti - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Ooh aah..errrrrrrrrr Hooo Haaa.... ☺️

before i start my drooling officially.. let me praise DD for her marvelous performance.. it wasn't the first time when she made me cry... she is really a phenomenal actor... and she is improving her skill with every passing episode...GC too was too good with his expressions and everything but it was DD's day...👍🏼

after a long time we got to see you know what i mean???☺️... so i have the biggest reason to be happy tonight... 😆

Again i think its dev only behind all this drama...so maan gonna allow dev to stay at KM as a redemption for his mistake... which will lead more problems btw them.. so the only beneficiary of this situation is still the DSK... and if am not over thinking then new promo will defo give out some hint for his villainous intentions..cause hiding his true color for a long time can make the
audiences 🥱.... so they need to reveal it soon..

ok if we keep the fire-chi aside then i have a very little issue with the maaneet-confrontation and that is its intensity... maan was intense with his dialogue delivery as well as expressions so was geet... but all the anger was poured into the fire-chi...i mean during those intense dialogues there could have been some typical maaneet push and pulls?? i mean he could have pushed her away in anger.or she could have shaken him when him when he said "mar jane diya hot mujha" thing... so i have a little problem with the body language....even the fight should have been more intense as we already know that..this time its maan-God's turn to go on his knees in front of geet-Godess... so thoda aur drama toh banta tha boss..😳

NE was a pain...as that silly gal updates everything to arjun by either warning him or accusing him🤣
🤣🤣🤣and that loser??phir bhi kuch nhi kerta.....🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣



Edited by shonuu - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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IM not good at reading hindi, but does the last word say aag babula


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Posted: 14 years ago
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Today's epi was so awesome it deserves a take!

Brilliant episode!!!
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So I didn't reserve today because I would not have time...after seeing the epi I decided it deserved it any way. Though I still don't have time...so here's something short.

After such a long time we have an outstanding episode.

1. I loved that Geet choose to talk to Maan on her own. The misunderstanding between them did not last long. She told him the truth and there was nothing else hidden between them.
2. Even though Maan was angry with her, she bluntly told him that he cared only about himself and his anger. She questioned, how could he say that she should have let him die. He did not think of her and what she had to go through. She choose Maan because she could not live without him, but he failed to see her love.
3. Even after Geet gives an explanation to him, Maan refuses to understand. He is overshadowed by his anger and hatred...that he has been for a long time. More then anything else he lets his anger and hatred control him enough to let it take over his rational thinking.
4. If anything Maan and Geet will come out of this stronger. Due to Geet, Maan sees that he is filled with hatred. He realized his flaw and is willing to change. There should be better understanding between them. He will make up to Geet. His first step is to allow Dev to stay in the house to prove to Geet that he has over looked his hatred for him. Both Maan and Geet learn from each other, this is why they compliment each others qualities.
5. DD and GC were brilliant! They enacted the scene superbly. 👏
6. In all honesty, I 'd have to say even Arjun and Awesha's scene was bearable today. It's probably one of their better scenes. Though I'm not so fond of Arjun's clean shaven face. 🤣

7. Dialogues were great!

Overall an A+


Edited by Ann.A - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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yes geets it is aag babula😆
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At the outset, kudos to the entire GHSP team for a mind-blowing episode. Words fail me.

Did I say words fail me? Bear with me today, but I could not stop the words from flowing.

Well, we got a clairvoyant MSK, who aw the photograph and put two and two together. And, surprise, he came up with four, not five. Well, the clairvoyant MSK has a clairvoyant wife. One look at the photograph and she knew that he knew.

Yet another change, Grandma was willing to shoulder the blame for what happened. She was willing to go after an angry MSK and let him know that she was the reason Geet did not disclose the truth to him.

In a refreshing change, Geet decided to heed Grandma's earlier advice, about not seeking a third person's interference in their lives. She told Grandma that he was angry with her, and she would face the consequences. She stopped Grandma and went to search for him in the room.

In tones reminiscent of the wood chi after the pregnancy disclosure, Geet hears some sound coming from the courtyard. She looked down at her MSK who is venting out his anger. I will forego a discussion on the scenes used in the flashback.

Geet allowed him to do continue venting out his anger, in hope that his anger would finally be exhausted. But, the moment he takes the fire rod in his hands, she broke her self-imposed restraint and rushes down, lest he harm himself.

Down, at close range, she saw that his anger appeared to be consuming him. Finally, he let go of the fire rod. And, she saw this as a cue to begin.

And, what followed was sheer brilliance.

On the part of Geet, we saw a clear admission of all that had happened. An admission that she had to seek Dev's help, an admission that they needed blood and it was only Dev's blood that matched.

A seemingly calm MSK asked her as to why she did not disclose this to him earlier. We didn't expect that, did we?

In response, Geet revealed that Dev had placed a condition that she would not reveal the truth to him. She told him that she wanted to tell him the truth, despite Dev's condition. Here, in one go, she indicated that, for her, vishwas and bharosa -- the founding elements of their relationship -- hold far greater importance than her own word of honour. She revealed that she did not do this immediately, at Grandma's advice who advised her to wait until he was well. And, then, she disclosed that circumstances conspired against her. She admitted that she did not have the courage to tell him the truth, in light of the events that had transpired.

And, then the hateful lines from MSK: "You knew you were wrong. Why did you do something which you would not have the courage to disclose?"

In response, Geet told him that, for her, at that moment, only one thing was important. Her goal then was to save his life. She had no option.

And, then, we got the manifestation of MSK, the MSK who does not like to be beholden to anyone, the MSK who does not like to seek assistance from anyone, the basis of which was laid down in what I call the fountain episode. He told Geet that she should have allowed him to die. He questioned her as to why she sought help from Dev. He told her that death was better than such life for him.

Well, did MSK say that he preferred death to a life beholden to Dev? Well then, his Geet was not one to refuse him the favour. Today, she was to kill the myth of MSK and bring to life the man she knew as Maan. Today, she was to burn MSK; and from the ashes would rise the Maan she knew.

In a passionate outburst, Geet tore to shreds MSK's reputation as the one who could do no wrong, the one who could say no wrong.

She served him a volley of questions / observations:
  • Did he even consider what would happen to her, to their child, if he were to die (In a lighter vein, did she know that MSK had not changed his will)?
  • He only thought of himself and his anger. Earlier, it was her happiness that mattered the most to MSK.
  • Did he consider how difficult it was for her?
  • It made no difference to him. Aap ko koi farak nahin padta. His anger and hatred took paramount importance in his life. He gave it precedence over Geet, Geet's love and their child. Contrast this to the earlier promo and episode, where MSK tried to get Geet to admit her feelings for him and tells her to admit that he makes no difference to her. Is it her turn to get MSK to admit "Farak padta hai, Geet."
  • What did she do wrong? She only asked Dev for blood to save her husband's life.
  • He was angry because she sought help from Dev. Did he wonder about what she would have undergone? Did he wonder how she would have faced Dev? Did he wonder how she would have spread her hands in supplication before Dev? Ahh, now that got MSK's attention like no other.
In a concluding flourish, Geet stumped him by telling him that he would not understand, he was not the Maan she knew. For, the Maan she knew was selfish, but his selfishness would be served by seeing his Geet happy. His selfishness was not served or fuelled by anger or hatred. Maan's selfishness would not have his hatred and anger taking predominance over his love for Geet.

Geet walked off, and a tear slip[ed out of the eyes of an already remorseful Maan, who had begun to realise the error of his ways. Was this the requiem of the MSK who was driven by hatred and anger?

There's a song titled "Song of Ruth" sung at Christian weddings. The lyrics go as follows:
Wherever you go, I shall go.
Wherever you live, so shall I live.

If Geet followed Maan earlier, he now followed her.

And, finally, we got some long-awaited self-introspection by Maan. In the past, we have been denied this. But, today, we get it in all its splendour

He overheard Geet's talk with their baby; he overheard her concerns about his anger and his hatred. He admitted to himself that he had placed his hatred for Dev over Geet's love. He admitted that he was not the same Maan; he had changed, hatred had changed him.

We then have a further self-introspection of Maan with Geet's words echoing in his ears.

Enter Grandma. Maan admitted his mistake to his Grandma. Surprisingly, Grandma too spared him no quarter. She told him bluntly that he had pained Geet. Well, I like this version of Grandma.

The CVs sure know how to close a loop. For, we today, we got the deification of Geet. Maan said that his Geet could not make any mistake.

In response to Grandma's observation that it was good that he realised his mistake, Maan acknowledged that his realisation had come late. Well, it was indeed late because he had already tilted the scales in the balance of hatred. In so doing, he had upset his relationship with Geet.

In the end, Grandma prompted him to apologise to Geet.

Well, Maan needs no prompting. At the same time, he knows that a mere apology would not be enough. Words alone would not right the balance of the scale of his relationship with Geet. Maan knows that he has to change himself. He knows that he has to prove that he has changed himself. He has to prove to Geet that hate and anger do not devour him.

And, this is where Dev gets the key to enter the Khurana Mansion.

A brilliant episode. So, to the entire team, a standing ovation.👏👏👏

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Geeta mentioned that Maan's realisation that he had changed was not the first one. The first time, he realised this was post the Kehna Hi Kya sequence.

That brought to mind some other scenes.

I am now wondering if there is a correlation between Geet going down on her knees and the changes witnessed in Maan's characters. The Black Friday is possibly the only exception to this.

Post the Kehna Hi Kya sequence, Geet was brought to knees by the realisation of her feelings for MSK. She knew that he too had started developing feelings for her, but given that she was enceinte, she thought that this happiness would be denied to her. She decided that she had to leave MSK for his good. Of course, Maan was not around to witness this. Yet, around the same time, Maan realised that he has started to change. Now, at that time, he admitted to himself that not all change is bad. He was changing for the better.

Post the Pee Loon sequence, after Maan walks out after Geet disclosed her pregnancy, Geet went down on her knees in abject sorrow. Again, Maan was not around to witness this. Yet, Geet's disclosure reverted him back to the angry Maan, one who did not give any quarter to a person who he perceived had betrayed his trust.

Then, in the conference room, just before Geet revealed the truth regarding her past to him, she went down on her knees. In an outburst that caught him by surprise, Geet asked him some hard-hitting questions. We bear in mind here that Maan had become angry on account of the truth Geet had revealed to him. Geet asked him what wrong she had done by revealing the truth to him. Then came a statement from Maan that was discussed ad nauseam -- "Geet, I thought that you were only mine." A sentence that rocked Geet to the core. This sentence tore to shreds whatever hopes she had about their relationship. She told him that sometimes, despite the key being close and despite wanting to, we are unable to open the lock. This said, she walked with her head held high, she and her baby alone to face the world. It took Maan a few moments to realise the error of his judgment, the error of his ways, that he had grievously wronged Geet by sitting in judgment over her without affording a hearing. Then, thanks to the editors, we were denied some much-needed self-introspection. But, we did witness a changed Maan. A Maan who pleaded before Adi and Pinky to find out the whereabouts of his Geet. A hitherto highly-principled Maan who stooped to offer Pinky her job back if she would only disclose the whereabouts of Geet. A Maan who was willing to pay money to the children, despite his principles, to find out the whereabouts of Geet.

Yesterday, Geet was brought down to her knees again during Maan's fire chi session. Again, he did not see this, engrossed as he was in his anger and hatred. This time, the reason for her breakdown was Maan's anger because she had not disclosed the truth to him. This time, Maan asked her why she did not disclose the truth to him. What a contrast to the earlier confrontation in the conference room! Yesterday, Maan told her, "You should have let me die." A sentence that rocked Geet to the core. And, this time, again it took some hard-hitting questions from Geet for Maan to realise yet again the error of his ways. This time, again, Geet walked out; she and their baby alone yet again? And, now we are likely to witness a changed Maan yet again. A Maan who is willing to prove that he is ready to overcome the darkness of his dark passions -- hatred and anger. A Maan who will let Geet's love dispel the darkness of hatred and anger. A Maan who will take recourse to the helping hand extended by Geet's love to lift himself out of the abyss of his hatred and anger. A Maan who is willing to take the key of Geet's love and open the lock of that *chest* within him, which is filled to the brim with hatred and anger.

Of course, this is a drama, and we would not want him to forgive Dev and the other wrongdoers. So, he can let go off the hatred and anger, but mete justice out will cold vengeance. Who was it who said that revenge is best served cold?

Edited by hegdemedha - 14 years ago
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Loved the EPI👍🏼

1. Superlative performance by GC DD.........👍🏼.....Check....

2. The way Geet brought out the hole TRUTH to MSK in spite seeing him super angry was done beautifully👏.......unlike typical SP, Zee, Colors show heroin 😆....this is why in spit CRAP we have stuck to the show😃...just loved how Geet cooled him

3. I liked DADI today..........she tried to handled both MSK N GEET but without coming between them😃...

4. HUUU HAAAAA😍..OMGGGGGGGGG.....This time with FIRE🤔..HMMMMMM.......depicting that MSK N Geet are burning within😭...which came out finally from both👏

5. ok 🤣......PLEASE DON'T TAKE MSK's LAST DIALOGUE SERIOUSLY🤣🤣🤣.....Munda is total NIKKMA when it comes something MORE....😃

6.OMG😲....I Could bear NM n NE Arjun today🤓.....need to get myself refreshed🤔.......
BUT i just forgot NE scenes ......GC DD n that huu haa scenes just overpowered it 😛......

overall kinda PAISA WASUL epi after long😛
Edited by Meetu_Anu - 14 years ago
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Geet totally put out her aag babula's fire na! I just love the last word! 😳
Edited by 49erFan - 14 years ago
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Thanks Medha and Spash for confirming my aag babula! 😃

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