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Posted: 14 years ago
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Annie has put herself in that position but after watching yesterday epi I can't help but feel for her. Annie is young and somewhere naive. she let a guy convince her that he loves her. I don't believe in regrets. Everything that has been done and annie should be prepared and move on. It can be a learning experience for her.

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: bDgT

On that note Jyo, I don' think even Geet was right in what she did with the baby angle!! Lemme ask you, had she not had a MSK and a job that is secure with MSK where would a 12th educated girl without family and home, give comfort or luxury to a baby? How can she fulfill the baby's basic needs and necessities

On another note, education has nothing to do with being cheated. Let me take the statistics here, there are about 34% of educated women who fall prey to some charlatan or some scheme and combine that with genderless educated - so many people have become victims of financial fraud and so many other frauds in the world if you open any newspaper. In fact more than 50% if you take the housing collapse into consideration.

Bri
Geet was cheated in a fake marriage where she went ahead thinking she is fulfilling the duties of a wife....there it was not lust or mistake from her side unlike in Annie's case...what was unacceptable in Annie's case was the way she went ahead at a time when her brother is getting married...I m not saying educated girls can't make mistakes..they do make bigger mistakes but they r mostly intelligent enough to rectify their mistakes later instead of crying foul and so I said that she should go for abortion.....in Geet's case she was not educated enough to think on those lines.. and so she took the decision of giving birth to her baby on emotional grounds🤔
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Hi bri,

Agree with your post. Had posted something on those lines a couple of day ago...Unable to post the link to the thread and hence copy pasting the content.


here it goes........



Caught the rerun.

Even before I could rue missing it initally, I could see I wouldnt have missed much anyways. The SBB segment earlier on the day pretty much outlined what was worth looking forward to.

Yesterdays episode hinted at ' joote do paise lo ' sequence and Adi - Pinky naughty act hitting it off to a start was endearing.

Geet and Maan as always lit up the screen and our hearts with their air time. The two never had eyes for anyone but themselves but hey who's complaining.

Daar ji's bang on time for kanyadaan bit was leaked on SBB and the novelty had worn off. I had always hoped CV unite Geet and her family and they pull off the act to coincide with the wedding. Neat!

We all have come to be so fond of Geet that we are rooting for Maan to bring her every dream/wish/whims/fancies (also adding some of ours in the process) to materialise them.

Finally, Annie and Arjun.

I think they have been lamblasted enough already. Not only for their acting skills but also the air time they had come to consume. CV's strategy is best known to them.
In today's episode, they twosome beat the 'awesome' by miles to the.....well, you know what I mean, dont you.

Their whirlwind romance ( pre and post Arjun's character turning negative)defies logic. Not unexpected though. CV has a rich history of being on the erring side of logic and common sense.

The story was otherwise brewing to a boiling point and CV adds an undesirable concoction. As if picking a rookie wasn't bad enough they stoop to a new low- borrowing plot from 'K' series.

What started off as a family drama, meant to highlight social issues and a girl's fight for justice is slowly steadily sinking into a revenge saga.

First Nayantara. Brij comes next, and now Arjun.
Geet commanded, nay, demanded that audience relate to her. Her spirits to battle all odds, in face of numerous adversities and bring her unborn child into this big world connected with the audience.

Teens and adults alike reasoned that the wronged should claim her life back with dignity and self respect intact and the perpetrators of the crime be out behind bars.

That's a social responsibility with each of us and CV struck the right chords there. Maan's character was the perfect foil and despite a million rationality being tossed around carelessly, the character's righteousness ensured wecome to love the lead pair.

Today the two have come a long way on the show and the characters are etched on our minds forever. And then CV rocks the boat and is in for a free fall.

The dead rising from the ashes, marital disharmony, revenge-avenge plot,extra marital affairs, children outside of wedlock, way ward brothers and sisters, general lack of morality, betrayal, in law horror, evil daughter in law, pregnancies from all plausible reasons ranging from rape, consensual to raging hormones?

Sounds familiar? They are the chief elements in most or all of the shows that run daily across 100's of channel. Take a look at each in singularity and I demand to know why GHSP should be any different?

The answer probably lies in the treatment of these elements and blending it into the story without any of them sticking out like an eye sore. And then things change and it's been such a let down.

Annie making out with Arjun under the same roof as her brother's wedding is unacceptable. It's a new low for CV. We understand dramatics. Bringing in Brij and Nayantara right when the wedding bells toll was theatrical enough. A la Parineeta act was entirely expendable.

I recall the scene from one of the earliest episode when Geet sneaks out of her home to meet Maan and asks him for the agent's contact number who sold the plot to him. Maan was condescending to her and alludes to her presence in his house at that hour in a very bad light. Geet nearly slaps him but restrains herself and says , " you were right about not using force / strike a blow to the helpless.And something about?aapki soch bhi utni hi choti hai?."

For a man as principled as Maan, CV deemed fit that Arjun delivers the blow where it hurts the most. And so, they contrive the story to portray a man taking advantage of a woman to put his plan through.

Now those of you raising an eyebrow at the word ' advantage' can rest easy. CV actually has a social message in there. We need to read between the lines.

Annie is educated, loved by her family and like any other teen given to whims and fancies. That could be any one of the million teens out there. But CV takes it a step further to paint a picture of stupidity beyond belief.

So if a girl like Annie can fall to charming deception, shed her inhibitions along with clothes, it could happen to be just about anyone in real world.

I do believe in love at first sight. And if we dint believe in love we wouldn't be following GHSP today. Yet, Annie-Arjun's romance is unacceptable to us

Why

Because it is running parallel to the all important wedding track?

Because it is gaining momentum by leaps and bounds in comparison to the snail paced wedding and consuming equal if not more air time on the show?

Because we are deeply passionate about the impact of it on Maan-Geet track?

OR

Because, it's beyond our sensibilities to see a man-woman fall in love in a matter of days?

Because, they compromise on social norms and indulge in promiscuous behavior?

Because, Annie's character is portrayed as one with 'easy' virtues?

Aforementioned are 2 set of reasoning. One from the story PoV and the other from a social PoV. Do put your thinking caps on and reconsider why GHSP appeals to you.

I don't want to sound like a saint or be preachy but I was sold to the concept that the show was addressing a social evil. It was being done in an immensely appealing fashion, targeted the youth, oozed innocence and simplicity, did not resort of shenanigans or exaggerations, kept the fun factor intact, had lead actors working their magic on us and we fell to these charms despite a wayward storyline.

It has increasingly, overwhelmingly and obsessively boiled down to Geet and Maan today.No offense to all Geet-Maan fans. They are the reason I am still watching the show. I am merely thinking aloud.

Why was Chak De India, Rang de basanti, Fashion such big hits? Only because they had good performances? I highly doubt that. All 3 were youth oriented movies and they held a message there in?

Even "Paheli" has stupenduous performances and even nominated in a category for the Oscars. It was a major dud despite the stars. Why? Because one din't connect to it?

Its time we look at the big picture and draw conclusions than to go with the flow of widespread emotions.

Long after the show wraps up on Star One I want to remember the story as a fairytale. Not as a show that had a sister getting cosy and comprising her own moral values as also putting the household honor at stake.

Now that's a double edged sword. 'Honor'. Define it.

Why is that when Geet's family ask her to abort the child and keep mum over the betrayal for the sake of family honor we find Geet's rebellion righteous.Because Geet believes it is right? She has been wronged and she wants to keep the baby and wage a lone battle against social prejudices governed by a male dominated society. Therefore, Geet is actually exercising her free will. Geet conceived as a result of a con job. She din't know she was part of a bigger plan.

Now let's consider Annie.

She is a spoilt, rich brat, used to getting things her way and like most teenagers with a very dismissive attitude to speak of. Along comes a man she feels is a perfect match to her. She doesn't wait to be asked and is the new age womanmaking the first move. She believes she is right in choosing her partner and exercise her will.

So?

She isn't the first woman on planet to be duped by charms of a man.

She isn't the first woman to give into raging hormones.

She isn't the first woman to lie about her love escapades.

She isn't the first woman to prioritize love over family.

She isn't the first human being who is just plain stupid.

But she is branded stupid? Too forward? And to use words used in other threads on this forum?badtameez, naalayak, chaalooo , fast?so on and so forth.On the show it's a complete circle. Annie will pretty much land in same situation as Geet was at the beginning of the show.

Today we are tolerant of live in's, divorces, bigamy, consummating prior to tying the knot and we label this as personal freedom and free will. I for one will respect a choice and can live with that. But there is no need for me to measure it up against my set of values and ethics. To each his own.

The reactions on the thread devoted to Annie and Arjun is vicious purely from the story PoV. I was hoping to see someone look at the issue in totality beyond just the story.

If I needed to preach I would have turned a social activist or worse still join hands with National Commission for Woman and actually do something than write posts on a forum dedicated to the entertainment industry.

Valid point. However, the motive here was to draw on the thought process of the common man. You and I. We are the audience. We are part of the society. The same mass that CV is trying to cater by way of entertainment. We are part of that society which unites to give Jessica Lal case a retrial. We united to express solidarity to an earthquake or a flash flood in the same breath as we were outraged over a powerful nation flattening another, for rhyme and reason best known to them, as if it owned the world.

Yes I watch the show to escape from the reality of it all. Commercial formula based movies are a run away hit and its poorer cousin from "art house" meet with debacles at the BO. A perfectly good show is taking on unwarranted burdens upon itself and ruining the essence of it. That's my grouse.

Yes, you can ask me to shut up with my lecture and take it elsewhere. Well. I would. For now. I will try and leave my brain out of this in future and stick to cutesy posts.


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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: bDgT

On that note Jyo, I don' think even Geet was right in what she did with the baby angle!! Lemme ask you, had she not had a MSK and a job that is secure with MSK where would a 12th educated girl without family and home, give comfort or luxury to a baby? How can she fulfill the baby's basic needs and necessities

On another note, education has nothing to do with being cheated. Let me take the statistics here, there are about 34% of educated women who fall prey to some charlatan or some scheme and combine that with genderless educated - so many people have become victims of financial fraud and so many other frauds in the world if you open any newspaper. In fact more than 50% if you take the housing collapse into consideration.


Totally agree..had made a similar post in the context of Geet sometime ago..in the name of honouring motherhood/womanhood or whatever, aren't we being stripped of our right to choice..why is MTP such a dirty word..doesn't a woman have a right over her own body..why should she have to suffer the outcome of what is best described as a violation..for her consent was obtained on fraudulent grounds..much as I like Geet's positive attitude towards life, I don't think her choice should be hailed nor should she be seen as a role model..this would result in undue pressure on women who may find themselves in similar circumstances..let us not be duped into being emotional fools..let us reassert our right to make an informed choice depending on the circumstances that we may find ourselves in..




Edited by janvis70 - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Hey Bri....Loved the Topic...I dont know if what i am gonna state has anything to do with what you have written but this is what i feel

What's the difference between Geet and Ani, except that Geet came from a more conservative family, and her immediate family was present to witness her marriage with Dev, regarding which everything was FAKE and Ani comes from quite a modern upbringing who gets away with what she wants, and did not have any witness at all to the so called marriage with Arjun.

Just compare both the situation the Girls have been in….You can witness History Repeat…..

The whole Geet-Dev Thing takes place in a matter of 25-27 days….

The whole Ani-Arjun matter too takes place in a time frame of 25-27 days…max 32

Geet was made to believe that Dev truly loves her, he convinces her that he is blessed to get Geet as his partner etc and so She builds up all her FUTURE LIFE based on that only to be shattered….

Same happens with Ani; she too is made to believe that she is the center of Arjun's Universe… that she is the one for him, and so she too dreams of a life with him based on what he said…will be shattered or not time will show

For Geet she believed that she was married and she was giving herself to her husband…Was he her husband NO!!!

For Ani she too believed that she was getting married to Arjun and she was giving herself to the one she thought was her life partner her soul mate….

Both these times the Girls believed that the Guys they were giving their selves to were honest and true to their words…..

And so they both have been the Victim of the same, just the motive they were used was different one for self Interest, one for the sake of Revenge….

What happened with Geet after she finds out Dev cheated her, what she does, how she takes control of her life is what we expect every other woman to do, if they fall prey for the fake marriage and atrocities in the name of family honor….

What Ani will do when she finds out, she has been used will def be something to watch out for….

Just because she got intimate with Arjun on the day of her brothers wedding, she is bashed left right and center, I feel that's unfair….. Its Sad Ki Ani is being treated so rudely……

Both the cases are same, then why was Geet Sympathized and why is Ani scrutinized????

I am not defending Ani….I really wish she would have boldly said to Arjun ki they can't do this…..

But at the end of the day she for once just believed and trusted the person she felt was genuinely in love with her…


Love Viji😊


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Posted: 14 years ago
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i need to think before i write :))

an dput it in a way as well as u did bri..so im going to reserve n get back
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Shreya: My question is why is pre-marital sex wrong? By what token is it wrong? In this day and age, what makes you say it is wrong? It is happening even to some 12th grade kids who are going and sleeping with their boyfriends.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: bDgT

On that note Jyo, I don' think even Geet was right in what she did with the baby angle!! Lemme ask you, had she not had a MSK and a job that is secure with MSK where would a 12th educated girl without family and home, give comfort or luxury to a baby? How can she fulfill the baby's basic needs and necessities



This is exactly my point too bri... Geet was lucky to have MSK n a secure job.. Warna, where would she wander bout with a 12th std certificate in delhi... Also wat will she provide to her baby once its born????

Nice topic... detailed write-up coming latter...
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: bDgT

Viji: Gaffe!!I wanted to say 12th passed!!

Smitha: How many 18 yr. old's the world over who sleep and get pregnant with a one night stand need to go for a pregnancy? I don't think it is necessary for a woman to act all matronly/motherly/mamta etc., to be called a woman or to live her life



I too feel the same... All this is very inspiring from a story/soaps point of view only, not in reality... After the baby is born, ??? She will only get around 4 months of leave... Lets be practical that she will not be given an extended leave coz of her baby... So wat will she do???? Hire a nany/ leave it at a play school??? I don think she can afford any of it... She cannot sit home n tend the baby coz she has no money... She cannot carry her baby to work too.... So wat will she do... Personally i was not in for the pregnancy part in GHSP... I feel it was not needed atall... The same could be achieved minus the pregnancy factor is wat i felt....
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: rickks

Hey Bri....Loved the Topic...I dont know if what i am gonna state has anything to do with what you have written but this is what i feel

What's the difference between Geet and Ani, except that Geet came from a more conservative family, and her immediate family was present to witness her marriage with Dev, regarding which everything was FAKE and Ani comes from quite a modern upbringing who gets away with what she wants, and did not have any witness at all to the so called marriage with Arjun.

Just compare both the situation the Girls have been in'.You can witness History Repeat'..

The whole Geet-Dev Thing takes place in a matter of 25-27 days'.

The whole Ani-Arjun matter too takes place in a time frame of 25-27 days'max 32

Geet was made to believe that Dev truly loves her, he convinces her that he is blessed to get Geet as his partner etc and so She builds up all her FUTURE LIFE based on that only to be shattered'.

Same happens with Ani; she too is made to believe that she is the center of Arjun's Universe' that she is the one for him, and so she too dreams of a life with him based on what he said'will be shattered or not time will show

For Geet she believed that she was married and she was giving herself to her husband'Was he her husband NO!!!

For Ani she too believed that she was getting married to Arjun and she was giving herself to the one she thought was her life partner her soul mate'.

Both these times the Girls believed that the Guys they were giving their selves to were honest and true to their words'..

And so they both have been the Victim of the same, just the motive they were used was different one for self Interest, one for the sake of Revenge'.

What happened with Geet after she finds out Dev cheated her, what she does, how she takes control of her life is what we expect every other woman to do, if they fall prey for the fake marriage and atrocities in the name of family honor'.

What Ani will do when she finds out, she has been used will def be something to watch out for'.

Just because she got intimate with Arjun on the day of her brothers wedding, she is bashed left right and center, I feel that's unfair'.. Its Sad Ki Ani is being treated so rudely''

Both the cases are same, then why was Geet Sympathized and why is Ani scrutinized????

I am not defending Ani'.I really wish she would have boldly said to Arjun ki they can't do this'..

But at the end of the day she for once just believed and trusted the person she felt was genuinely in love with her'


Love Viji😊




Viji....I agree that both girls were WRONGED...there is no doubt about it...but to say that both Geet and Anni behaved the same was is totally untrue. At the time Geet truly believed (in her eyes and in the eyes of the world, including her family) that she was marrying Dev, and therefore she was his LEGALLY wedded wife. She slept with him...in full knowledge that she was his wife and that she was doing the duty of a wife. It was after the fact that she learned that she was deceived and that she was not his LEGAL wife. In the case of Anne...she knew when she put the varmala on Arjun, that this was a sham of a wedding...it was not done in front of the world or in front of her family. She knew that this rasam was just a personal ceremony...that after it, she would not be his LEGAL wife. That is evident, because later on, while decorating Maan's room for suhaag raat...she goes on to say that "ek din mein bhi shaadi karoongi, ek din me aur arjun bhi phere lenge...ek din meri sej be sajegi." So she is in full knowledge that she slept with Arjun outside the confines of marriage, where as Geet slept with Dev in the full knowledge that she is in the confines of marriage.

The INTENT for both of the girls was totally different, hence the situation is totally different. I sympathized and empathized with Geet when she found out that Dev deceived her.....but with Anne, i sympathize that she has been deceived, but I CANNOT empathize with her, for I would not have done what she did, were i in her situation.

That is the key...we all EMPATHIZE with GEET, but we all cannot EMPATHIZE with Anne. I hope this made sense.

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Is life a Dream? S#2/pt 3/4/PG11/16/11 NOV

Hey all of you welcome all in Maaneet sweet world one more painful story i hear " Kitni girhein kholi hai maine" a nd feel this going perfect

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