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Posted: 15 years ago
Ok updated in pg 2 just now!! Here it is for online members!
I am not satisfied today with my analysis, had to do it in a hurry while running in & out of errands!
Ok overall I loved the episode but can't call it flawless!! Obviously there r certain issues! 1st & foremost I wanted the CV's to start it of with the clasped hands of the lovebirds looking into each other's eyes from y'day & then the scene of Geet they showed today. It would have made such a major impact Nissar!
About Geet's questioning about her feelings & is trying to get an answer to all those through her reasoning!! Poor girl she gets in a trance while in company of Maan, all she could see was his intense passionate eyes, his fabulous body & his sexy voice but rest becomes blur!! 😆 Hota hai, hota hai sabka aisa hota hai! Even we undergo the same effect when we see Maan in his full form! 😆
But jokes apart she is still in a dilemma as to whether Maan means something more or is it 'what u see is what u get' with him!! Nothing more, nothing less! Valid questions though as often in love we become blind, we start to think selectively, trying to see or think sometimes what we want to unless & until we get endorsement from the person in no uncertain terms about his/her feelings. So that is what is storming in her mind as well, does he feel anything for me or does he not? And this time they gave very appropriate fb's where both occasions MSK was earnest & sincere to the core, the discotheque confession & in HP underneath that gazebo! She is more like questioning her understanding of him rather than questioning his intentions here. And also very important she answered those queries which many posed here as to why she is not telling Maan the truth about her past! Once she sees Maan as a solid sounding board who can accept her truth she will but as of now she can't decipher his intentions & that is where her dilemma lies.
Ok as far as Maan is concerned 1st of all Nissar is Guru not well or not available or what? Why did we have to see an old clipping of his Tai chi workout with fresh monologues? I mean we know every little nuances, clipping, scenes as far as MSK is concerned & this was shown earlier, he working out, maybe after the 'kurbaan huya' sequence. Anyway another thing is I was surprised to see even he is questioning his actions of gifting her the ring. If at all any person who was sure of his feelings it was MSK & he a long time back accepted that & was now in the mode to pursue Geet, then why is he questioning himself? It should have been more like what Geet thinks or feels rather than 'why did I give her the ring when I told dadi I won't?' Don't confuse Maan's character CV's he is not someone who gets swayed by a mere action or reaction!
Or did u want us to think that he is having second thoughts because of Geet's uncertainty? She is still not sure about this engagement & she considers him a friend & so he is having doubts that maybe he has pushed her away by putting that ring on her?? Is this so? If this is the case then its still acceptable!
Then the segment where a strong demarcation is set between Fiancee & Secretary!! I liked Geet's stand here, her entire body language, determination, authority, command of the situation surprised me along with Maan! 😃 He was totally taken aback hearing her response. And I agree with her secretary answer not with her fiancee logic. Yeah secretary doesn't travel in bosses cars but takes the public transport! And oh by the way Gouri the CV's heard ur outcry about Maan not offering to take her home on Monday's episode & so this time they show it! 😃
Geet I won't agree when u said MSK is concerned about the ring's safety more than urs when he offered to take u as his fiancee! All this while when u were not even his fiancee then too he went out of the way to protect u in all possible situations, he didn't care about any ring or anything! So why now will a material thing matter to him so much more than u? Dialog mein thoda problem tha! I loved the deliberate look MSK bestowed on the ring before asking can he take her as his fiancee!! He was zapped to hear that from Geet & so was I!
Now the ring incident in the office, I can understand the situation because it does happen sometimes like that but didn't like the execution of the scene there. Its very natural for others to ask about a ring one wears & sometimes they even see it asking the owner to take it out but it doesn't travel like that from one person to another!! Pinky wanting to see I can well understand but when the entire office is at awe of Geet being the bosses fiancee then how come all of them came & passed the ring from 1 person to another?! I mean if the ring stayed in Pinky's hand all the time & fell from her hand in fear when MSK came I would have understood but not that passing around like a prop in a game!! That was badly executed! And I can so see the surprise & shock of Maan when it comes lying at his feet! And here Drashti did a good job bringing that look of guilt on her face!
The office scene was good in revealing their stand! Very well said Maan if someone gives u something then one should be respectful of the gift! And all along Geet was guilty feeling that he gave her the ring & she let it out of her finger but the moment he said 'u don't consider me but at least consider dadi's feelings', immediately the change comes in Geet! Both of them r so similar in certain respect! With others they r different but when it comes to them they r possessive! It was like when Maan spoke earlier she was thinking he is saying this because he gave it to her but the moment he referred to dadima bringing her feelings in all this Geet retaliated! It shows she will listen & care when he is involved but not to bring any 3rd person (no matter how close) in between their conversation or in their circle of love!
And thus begins her flood of questions trying to push his buttons to see what he really feels for her, is it at all like what she feels for him, the probing was done very well leaving MSK looking away trying to concentrate on some inanimate objects like file & phone! And Geet now is so full of authority in front of him, not a shred of awe exists in her about him! She snatched the file & the phone & keep probing to see what he has to say as to why he made her wear the ring!
And I loved the way she was putting him on the corner about opening up for once! Why does he run whenever there is an occasion for him to reveal the secrets of his mind, our mind is not so strong enough as to hold these secrets forever, why can't he tell her the truth, her questions r neither paltry not unimportant! Loved the bombardment one after another! And his body language revealed she was not far away from the truth, he does keep things away locked in his mind never to bring them out in the open!! Attic remember? His past locked away up in the dark attic just like his mind!
When MSK retaliated I was happy only for the fact they kept the character consistent! MSK is someone to whom anger comes at drop of a hat & nobody can dare question him or push him to a corner & here Geet is doing that & he knows she is special & is lenient to her reactions but at some point of time his wall will break & that is what happened here. Moreover he knew he didn't have an answer himself & what his subconscious knows he is not willing to voice it out now & so all the more that outward rage of MSK towards Geet to put her back in her position! Character consistency!! 😃 Boy am I glad!!
Here Geet is upset not because he shouted at her but because he called her his mere secretary! In hurt she tries to leave, DD did a very good job in showing her pathos here. All said & done she wants to be his fiancee.........period! 😃 And the way she says 'thik kaha apne' just look at the transformation in his eyes! He realised how hurt she felt & immediately tried to pacify her.
Instantly he mellows down & tries to calm her with his tender, gentle, soft words as to why r they fighting when they just became friends & questioning each other, why can't they enjoy the present scenario as it is & slowly puts his symbol of love back on her again & as usual Geet was transported in her trance seeing Maan so soft & gentle!! This girl I tell u, will be too easy to handle! A little husky soft touch from him & she is mass of jelly! 😆 Like all of us! 🤣
But the most most important revelation here was Maan's reference to 'HUM' about them! He knows they r a whole entity, not separate from one another & that one instance mellowed her down! She realised he means she belongs to him & she is not just his secretary but someone of his own! That one word & his assurance did the trick & she accepted the ring once again all ready to be bound in their circle of love, their symbol of love! Loved the entire sequence here & the way this scene was handled! 👏
And that clasping of hands symbolising their union, their oneness, their bonding, their love that was carried on from y'day indicating nothing has changed between them, their feelings r the same, they still r invaluable to each other being the source of light, an anchor to get them across from their dark forlorn past! They still r like the moon shining in broad day light now, stepping side by side to sail from their gloomy past! That slight smile in his eyes was to die for! And the physical progress is also on, his slow advance to get her barriers down as I said y'day! He is inching slowly starting with her hand!
The next scene gave me a feeling of drop in the graph! I don't want to sound prejudiced but was so not for the idea of another couple coming to open their eyes about their own realisation! But here the dislike came not only from this point but from the character sketch itself! Love is blind....so true!! These 2 r consumed in love! Such cheesy dialogs all throughout! Dmello bursting with unending energy & his Rose, his love full of underlined flirtations!! She was swooning from the moment she entered the cabin! And she needs to open her mouth to talk properly, with that 'oohlala' effect she tends to suppress her words rather than talking them out! Nissar expected better from u!
And 'pyar ki nishaani' like Taj Mahal of Shahjahan for Mumtaz Mahal............godddddd what a sleazy line!! Shahjahan made a landmark, a wonder, remembering & dedicating to his deceased wife & here this guy wants to erect something for his living wife same at par with Taj Mahal but only in bungalow format! 😆 I almost laughed out loud! Nissar I know what u r trying to do here, arouse the dormant love in Maan & thus clear the doubts of Geet, but this way?? Through this couple? A big no-no from my end!
And Sasha since when did she take decisions of KC? In front of MSK she started refusing a client directly?!
NT & Dev I wonder were they ever in love? I really doubt so! She so reminded me of the proverb 'jab jahaaj dubta hai toh sabse pahele chuha bhagta hai'! When time came she just turned the table on her husband & is all ready to flee the scene! She must have done something horrible to be so scared of MSK this way! She must have interfered in his life very badly & she knows the consequences can be unrewarding! Or else a person like NT wouldn't have fled the scene just because MSK gave her a piece of his mind with some threats! So this means no immediate threats from her if she is leaving for Canada or is she?! And Dev too knows she is bluffing & decides to come clean with MSK!
Now the highlight for me was this last segment of the show!! That stole the whole episode! So he wants to convey his feelings through this erection of symbol of love?!! Will that mean this bungalow will ultimately be made for Geet by MSK? Think so! And through that he will express his love for her! Hmmm! That is why Dmello & his Rose came in the picture? Why this brilliant idea couldn't come to Maan on his own? Anyway......whatever! And Geet hoping not to show her suppressed love for him while working on this project! These 2 I tell u! 😆 Arre mauka bhi hai dastoor bhi..........bol daalo! On 2nd thoughts don't say, let both of u be in a dilemma like this trying to suppress & reveal & in the process we will enjoy some awesome moments! Selfish me! 😃
In this segment Gurmeet outdid himself! I was struck with awe seeing him perform! Simply Splendid!!
Ok what a bruise on Sasha's ego!! She came down all excited to make herself look indispensable to Maan & here what did he do, totally ignored her to royalty! 😆 I mean he didn't even realise she was existing there with them in that same room! His entire being was only focused on Geet! I don't think he even knew Sasha was there! And I loved it! 😃 He reminded me of Arjun of Mahabharat, when the target is in front then the entire world fades away into obllivion, nothing exists but the aim! 😃
And another moment that made me go 'yippee yippee yea yea yippee yippee yea'!! Right from the horses mouth we got a confirmation today that we were discussing for so long about Maan! We know he has a sinister past & that involves his heart as well which has made him so heartless & ruthless but not necessarily that has to relate to a romantic angle! He himself said today he DOESN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT LOVE, he was asking Geet to help him understand what love is all about, why is it so important in life, what is her definition of love, what does she think about love............all the probings went on & on all because he is ignorant about love! So CV's pls remember this next time if u ever think of bringing a love angle back in his life! it can be a crush or infatuation or just a sympathetic compromise on his part but LOVE never! No wonder all along the show I felt he is totally new as far as love is concerned, all his feelings for Geet had a raw appeal, his rustic approach, his coming to terms with his feelings, his handling with the feeling, fighting with it all indicated it is happening to him for the first time! And I am glad that it turned to be that way or else my love for MSK's character would have gone down a notch or two, I couldn't have related to his character! Something would have been amiss!
Maan's queries to Geet not only was intense but had a serious intention of finding out what she wants from him, what is her expectations from him, what will make her happy, what will make her accept him fully & totally in her life & this intention made him look so out of the ordinary! For the 1st time we saw MSK talking about Love & that too so openly! And all along his quizzical look was laced with a ray of hope, hoping she would express her feelings for him as well, whether she would express how she has taken him for a real fiance & is willing to take their relationship forward towards a concrete level from friendship! All these made him look so intense, so deep, so serious! I simply loved him in that last segment! And another thing that made me happy was how he pointedly asked her 'I didn't ask u about the world, I asked u about ur explanation of love'! How much more open can a guy get!! Loved it! He is just baring himself slowly day by day not in clear terms but in his own rustic way & I am sure Geet will understand him very soon with all his drawbacks & strong points!
And the very next moment all his expectations came crashing down when Geet threw that bouncer to him asking him exactly what he posed to her! What is his definition of love, what does he feel about it! I would be so looking forward to his answers tomorrow, whether he will reveal his inner truth some way or once again will he dodge it smoothly!
Overall I loved the episode, specially the last segment was mind blowing! Good job Nissar!
Phewwwww............finally its done! Will now go & read all the other beautiful takes!!
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: jyoti06

@Adits:MSK was just being protective about the whole engagement thing there and so checking whether Geet is wearing the ring and is serious about it or not😉😳😳...if she had removed the ring,then MSK would hv guessed that mayb she is not serious about it..so u can say he gets a sort of confirmation here😉😳



yeah jyots...d 1st part wen i said dt may b he ws chkin she hd worn it or nt..

.i meant d same wat u posted abv.....he ws chkin..if she wudnt hv worn dn munda wud hv cme up wid mre galaxy explanations..😆😆😆..

d 2nd.....may b he wantd 2 indicate she is his fiance

.wen geet said secretary ya mangetar ki hasiyat se....he lookin at dt ring agn.....so mangetar ki hasiyat se.......bt b4 he cud say dt...kudi hd left already....😆😆

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@ Doodle...Me is Rhea :) new here :)

umm...I have a question...Didnt that article mention that MAAN and Geet are gonna confess on D'Mello's wedding or sth like that?? But Sasha was calling them Mr. and Mrs. D'Mello ..to iska matlab they are already married na?? Me all Confused...can someone clear this for me plijjj????
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Posted: 15 years ago
thanx marsha .....🤗

hey rhea....😃


@jyots :

The first scene was needed here where Geet for the first time in her self-talk wonders whether she should tell the truth to Maan about her past or not👏;But she tells the same things in her self-talk which I was blabbering yesterday whole time in the Den😆;The issue is why will she tell anything about her past to a guy who himself is confused about their relationship status ??😳;Geet doesn't want Maan to say ILU or "I feel for u" as a confirmation here😆...all she wants to hear is whether Maan really takes relationships related to love or lifelong commitments seriously or not and only then she can decide to reveal her past and then leave the option on Maan😊...So her self-talk regarding the confirmaton was spot on today👍🏼
so i askd u whoz d real director u or nissar......evry single line geet said durin dt scene...ws all mentioned by u ystrde.....😆

u wrote :

....BUT...Why the hell same exercising scene was copy/pasted in this case😡;CVs think we viewers r blind kya ??😡;If they had no time to shoot a new exercising scene with Gurmeet,then the same self-talk could hv been shown in a different scenario but why this copy/paste act😡;This is one of the reason why Maan's self-talk din't leave any impact for me here👎🏼...


geet ko baar baar lagatar lift kar kar ke bande ki kammar dard kar rahi hogi ya.....martial arts......aur d0 teen din nahi kar payega....😆😆😆.......on a serious note yeah repitative scenes.....bt dis is nt d 1st time...dey hv done dis pehele bhi....same exercising scenes...

Demellow and his wife's entry was very very OTT👎🏼;I din't even notice them initially ..only when that Rose lady started giving her intro,I was like oh so this is the couple😕😆;And fine I understand Demellow wants to build a taj-mahal for his wife🤣..but whats wrong with you all CVs😡;Why you'll want to make the show look like some 40s ka Mughal-e-azam love story with all these "pyaar ki nishaani" talks🥱😕;I know this idea has been taken from our Den where we did some serious research on "pyaar ki nishaanis"😆😆 but why use the word 50times from each and every character's mouth😆😆😆;And MSK saying "pyaar ki nishaani" repeatedly was seriously looking OTT😳;So plss from tomorrow use the word "building"..thats it...no more pyaar ki nishaani business😡...


i agree dey all wer lk pyaar ki nishani......... pyaar ki nishani......kuch aur nahi mila.....toh sirf bunglow hi kehete....😆.....

d entire thing looked OTT.......dt Mr demello : looked as he hd shoved all food stuffs poss in his stomach.......woh toh phir bhi thik hai.....bt wat wid his sudden entry who enters sum1s cabin lk dt......wat rubbish.....

its bn 3rd or 4th time des people hv shown no manners in employees n clients.....😕



Edited by adits7 - 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Marsha_Patel

@Adits: I read yours!!! I was lovely and funny as usual👏 I love the bakra🤣

@doodle:
I have a question Me confused by this part of your analysis. I rewatched the scene too, but me still CONfused 😕
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"But
then again when Maan said that Boss can only question the Secretary and
not the otherway round then it went complete tangent from her head. She
completely forgot what Maan had told her in the beginning of the convo.
Yeah all of you go back and check. You will get the answer. Maan's
answer lied in his question only."

Thank you ji!
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hmmm in the morning Geet decided that she is his secretary remember???? Then in the office she started questioning like a Fiancee....and then Maan said that secretaries never question bosses...that means she is not the fiance but secretary as Geet defined ....
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doods hv postd sumthin fr u on ur FB wall....do chk......😃
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Originally posted by: music-is-love

@ Doodle...Me is Rhea :) new here :)

umm...I have a question...Didnt that article mention that MAAN and Geet are gonna confess on D'Mello's wedding or sth like that?? But Sasha was calling them Mr. and Mrs. D'Mello ..to iska matlab they are already married na?? Me all Confused...can someone clear this for me plijjj????



lemme see the article
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Originally posted by: adits7

doods hv postd sumthin fr u on ur FB wall....do chk......😃



link bhej...am not getting it
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Originally posted by: adits7



yeah jyots...d 1st part wen i said dt may b he ws chkin she hd worn it or nt..

.i meant d same wat u posted abv.....he ws chkin..if she wudnt hv worn dn munda wud hv cme up wid mre galaxy explanations..😆😆😆..

d 2nd.....may b he wantd 2 indicate she is his fiance

.wen geet said secretary ya mangetar ki hasiyat se....he lookin at dt ring agn.....so mangetar ki hasiyat se.......bt b4 he cud say dt...kudi hd left already....😆😆



thanks jyo,aditi for explaining😊

ok now i'm going to read all the analysis
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Posted: 15 years ago
@Doodlebear - Did I tell you I love you? 😆 Another good analysis! 😉 Im glad you mentioned about Geet taking the engagement ring off. In real life, I have never met a woman who will take her ring off, just to show it to others, she will always flaunt the ring whilst its on the finger as a sign of pride, & the fact that she's happy about getting marrried but since the engagement between Maneet is Fake, could taking the ring off mean that it isn't as important to Geet, because its fake for one and she's getting so many mixed signals from Maan that she doesn't know if she should act in a certain manner! I think that is why Geet was so unsettled as she was taking it off and then running after it when it was being "parcelled" around 😆
And the Odd pairing of Demello & Rose, glad someone else noticed that too 😆 it seemed forced to me, however if they are suppose to be in "deep love" and be inspirational for Maneet, I can let it go...kinda! *rolls eyes!*
Now im off to read Jyo's take! 😆

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