Ratan and Veera VS Bansuri and Chanchali

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Mandy

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Posted: 11 years ago

I thought I would visit a topic that is relevant to the current track.

There have been many opinions regarding Ratan and Veera. A lot of people have critisized Ratan for not being able to whole heartedly accept Veera for a long time. Even though she loved her deep down, she struggled to accept it, and accept her. Even though on principle I agreed with a lot these opinions, I always felt it was somewhat unfair. We were all expecting Ratan to be a saint. For her to not have naturally human reservations when it comes to a child who was the result of her husband's infedeltiy. Yes it was not the child's fault. But the child itself was the outcome of Sampooran's faithless act. I love Ratan as a character, mostly for the fact that she was shown as a real human. Not some plaster saint, who would have just sacrificed herself and said "yes, my husband cheated on me, but I am fine with it"!! Her struggle to accept Veera was not Petty. It was valid.

She struggled and she forgave Sampooran, coz she wanted to give her marriage another chance. She waited for him to come back. She waited for him to accept Veera as her daughter. But he didn't come back. So for her it was like a sign that she was never meant to be Veera's true Mother. Of course Ranvi's obsession with Veera didn't help Ratan either. He stopped caring about his own future to make way for his sister's. So it was like Veera came into their lives, and everything fell apart. Sampooran had to leave coz he was found out, the child's biological mother died, and Ranvi stopped caring about himself and only cared for Veera. All this would make it hard for anyone to just get over it and accept Veera! But what I liked about Ratan was that she gave the child a home. She gave her an education, and she secretly cared about her as well. Finally now, they have come to a good understanding and acceptance.

Contrast that with Bansuri! Chanchali is the daughter from Balwant's first marriage. She is not the result of Balwant cheating on Bansuri. So number 1, she has no reason to act like Balwant has committed some crime by wanting to have a relationship with his daughter!! Also, just because a marriage ends, that dosent mean you stop being the father or mother to the children from that marriage. (Unfortnalty it does happen). But I think the kind of person you are, and the kind of person you marry again, has a lot to do with the outcome of that.

In this case, Balwant married a women like Bansuri who is malicious and competitive in nature. She is someone who just can't stand anyone other than herself getting attention, or getting ANYTHING for that matter. She made such a huge drama of the fact that Balwant was sending money to his daughter and writing to her. She asked him to CHOOSE between her and her children and his daughter from his first marriage!! Even TODAY, after so many years, she saw photos of his old family and she tore the pictures up! The only memories he probably has of them! Bansuri is a women with a very spiteful nature. She has a cruel streak in her. Women like that are 1000% more dangerous than even men with anger issues. They are so cunning that they will do harm even without anyone noticing or knowing. (Like how she manipulated the situation between Kartar and Gurptreet, coz she also wanted Kartar to divorce Gurptreet and marry Ratan. All coz she had a thing for Nihaal Singh and she knew that he loved Ratan).

So if you try to compare Ratan to Bansuri, that is why I say there is NO comparison. Ratan is a good women. Circumstances where against her. But even after the injustice done to her, she gave a place in her life to Veera. Today she loves her as her own? But Bansuri? What injustice was done to her? All she ever did was do injustice to Balwant's daughter? Making him feel like he has no right to have her in his life? Women like Bansuri and men like Balwant are the reason that girls like Sonya aka Chanchali have no family! Even after having a father and two half Siblings, she said "I have no family". I felt so bad for her. Veera never had to say that. She always had a family. No matter what.

So in my eyes, Bansuri is a villain, and Ratan is a hero!!

Edited by MrDarcyfan - 11 years ago

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ElireEli

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Posted: 11 years ago

Wonderful Post.👏 Yeah my heart melted similarly when Chanchali said that she did not have a family. I agree with your points that Ratan was just a victim of circumstances. It is really very hard for a wife to forgive her husband for his unfaithfulness and accept his illegitimate child even though the child is not at fault. And we have seen how she has always tried her best in mending the relationship but failed. She was even ready to welcome her wholeheartedly when Veera came back from Delhi but failed because she was reminded of his husband's infidelity as soon as she saw the reflection of Amrita in grown up Veera. Still she kept on trying. I would applaud her for her efforts and it reflects how strong a woman she is.

Bansuri on the other hand had no reason to not accept Chanchali still she despised her. She surely does not deserve any sympathy and is a true villain in this context. I am still happy that Chanchali stayed away from her given her malevolent nature. I feel she has turned into a strong women because she had to face the harsh realities of life at a tender age. Even if Bansuri had accepted her step daughter, Chanchali would not have been as established as she is today given the fact Bansuri did not allow her own daughter to study further. The truth is people like Balwant ,who can't take a stand on their own and hence abandon their children to please their spouses and Bansuri ,who can emotionally blackmail their spouses and turn venomous to fulfill their intentions, do exist in this world and children like Chanchali are left to suffer alone because of the selfish needs of such parents.

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Muna

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Posted: 11 years ago

Well said!👏 Ratan is more of a hero type..Even tough she never accepted Veera..she always cared for her.

As per bansuri, she IS a attension seeker(even though i like her😆)! She wants everything for herself. Today, Bansuri did very wrong by ripping the photes which was the only memory of Balwant's first wife's kids!

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Pizza_maniac

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Posted: 11 years ago

Well written meaningful post, MDF..

Completely concur with your points. In fact comparing Bansuri and Ratan is just so unfair, IMO(Iam not talking about you, but others who justify Bansuri, For this matter) Ratan is definitely a kind hearted woman, and is 1000 times better human being than a cunning Bansuri. Whatever people say about her or cvs show her with a comical side, I hate her. She's a typical cold hearted woman who can do anything for her selfish interests. She's neither a good wife nor a mother to her children. She has been so demanding and dominating wife to Balwant when his daughter with his first legal wife was concerned. Where as Ratan accepted her husband's illegitimate daughter and gave her a shelter and also education. Which B wouldn't have done even in her dreams. She didn't let Balwant send money in the first place. Her intentions are all selfish, and self centered only exclusion is Baldev, without any doubts. Only for him her love is not selfish. Otherwise she's not an ideal woman, IMO.

But when you take Ratan, she's a typical woman, a good human being and also very kind hearted. Many occasions she has proved that she has accepted. Veera as a member of her family though she couldn't openly acknowledge her as her own daughter, which can be very much justified.

She has many times ignored, but never mistreated Veera. Even when Kartaar proposed marriage she said that Veera is Ranvi's Jaan, and if you can't accept her, then this whole marriage plan isn't gonna work, she had always cared for Veera that came out on many occasions, which is very difficult , given that she is a symbol of her husband's infidelity. Only thing I dislike about her character is that she forgave her husband the main culprit, but couldn't forgive Veera who was an innocent kid. Otherwise Ratan is 1000 times better than a vamp Bansuri(Bansuri fans, sorry guys, but that's what I think of her, even though she's our Ballu's mom 😳)

Edited by Jyo_Veebafan - 11 years ago

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Mandy

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Posted: 11 years ago

Great post! There is no comparison, while Ratan had valid reasons in not accepting Veera she still took care of her and I highly doubt if Sampooran were still alive Ratan would tell him cut all ties with his child. Yes there was the part where she left Veera at the orphanage but I just do not believe she is heartless like Bansuri is.

I still remember how Bansuri blasted Balwant while Gunjan and Baldev listened on and today the way she ripped up and threw the only photos he had of his child were just wrong. Balwant is equally to blame though, how can he do such a thing to his daughter? I felt sorry for Chanchali today when she told Ratan she had no family, she has only herself to credit for her success. Balwant should be ashamed of himself.

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Mandy

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: .Mandy.
Great post! There is no comparison, while Ratan had valid reasons in not accepting Veera she still took care of her and I highly doubt if Sampooran were still alive Ratan would tell him cut all ties with his child. Yes there was the part where she left Veera at the orphanage but I just do not believe she is heartless like Bansuri is.

I still remember how Bansuri blasted Balwant while Gunjan and Baldev listened on and today the way she ripped up and threw the only photos he had of his child were just wrong. Balwant is equally to blame though, how can he do such a thing to his daughter? I felt sorry for Chanchali today when she told Ratan she had no family, she has only herself to credit for her success. Balwant should be ashamed of himself.

Yes I agree that Balwant should be ashamed. However, living in the west, I have seen SO many fathers who loose touch with their children after their first marriage ends. Not all, but some. Sometimes the Mothers block the father from seeing the kids. Sometimes, they marry again and cut ties with their kids. So many things can happen. But the end of a marriage is NOT an excuse to end your relationship with your children. The damage it can do is untold.

I had a close friend from University who's Dad married 4 times. My friend (it is a guy) is from the first marriage. His Dad barely saw him and his brother for years. Then he married 2 more times. He had children from 1 of those marriages and he has nothing to do with any of them. Now, he has a kid from his last marriage. That is the only kid he is actually looking after. My friend told me that his step dad was the one who brought him and his brother up. That is why today he uses HIS last name and not his Dad's. He legally adopted them anyway. My friend told me that he will NEVER let that happen to his children. He has seen what it can do. He is married to another friend of mine from Uni, and they are very happy and stable. So I doubt he will repeat the mistake.

But I totally agree. Fathers like Balwant are the main issue. Women like Bansuri are the culprits too, coz they are too petty to look over the fact that the child needs a father! I can't believe that a women can be so cruel as to stop a man from seeing his child? Truly despicable act!

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feck

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Posted: 11 years ago

For me Ratan has always been a silent contributor to Veera's up bringing.

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Mandy

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: feck
For me Ratan has always been a silent contributor to Veera's up bringing.

Yes she was. She struggled with her issues in accepting Veera. But she was never vindictive and malicious. She never ill treated or abused Veera. Even the incident when she dropped Veera off to the orphanage? I think she did that coz she was in shock. She found out her husband she trusted so much had cheated on her. Not only that a child was the result of it. She herself was in the early stages of a pregnancy. I think she had a miscarriage after falling off the stairs? Then Sampooran left. So I think in the state of mind that Ratan was in, she can be forgiven for doing such a drastic act.

I have seen people who criticise Ratan use this incident to put her down. But I think we should see the whole picture in which that occurred. What I am trying to say is that compared to a women like Bansuri, who has done injustice to her OWN daughter and also the legitimate daughter from her husband's first marriage is a REAL culprit. Not a women like Ratan who had her life torn apart by the entry of a child into it. So for a women like Ratan to have given Veera the life she has had, is truly praiseworthy. That shows that she is a good person and a decent human being. Unlike the Bansuri's of this world!

Yes she is Baldev's mother and I love Baldev. But I can NEVER support a women like Bansuri. Half the problems in Baldev's life is also thanks to Bansuri. She never let him be his true self. He has an authentic self that we see come out when Bansuri is NOT trying to influence him. He is actually a good guy deep down. He just likes to act like he is a jerk, coz he has a reputation to keep as a so called Bad boy! Bansuri tried her level best to make Baldev just like her. But she didn't fully succeed coz people have an innate self within them. That can only be altered to a certain extent. But Bansuri herself is rotten to the core. She proved that with the way she has treated Gunjan, and also the way she has treated Chanchali.