RagNa#He who can have patience can have what he will#1# - Page 2

Originally posted by: _innocent_

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">Firstly, thank you so much for this comprehensive response.😳😆 Raghav is yet to truly understand Kalpi! Right now he is on a mission to prove
that they can indeed mingle despite both being from totally two different
world. He finds it unbearable to hear her talk about status and how status is
what's preventing her from acknowledging him whole-heartedly. He just wants her
to admit she loves him, because he loves her. But in essence Kalpi does not
love Raghav! She adores him but is yet to fully fall for him, per my
understanding of her behaviour. She likes his affectionate side towards her,
but at the same time, she thinks it's a bit too much when he over-does
something for her (today being a very good example). I like misunderstandings so long as we do not
end up with a triangle. LOL! Raghav has tried to play the nice person, but I
feel he ought to revert back to being him, and let her be the judge of her own
feelings. According to me, the precap suggest another eruption or a made up
session, the latter seems more probable actually. Kalpi understood Raghav's
stance today, and hence why she spoke in that manner with her mother. Raghav
might feel like her over-stepped a line and go in search of her, because he has
had it embedded in his head, that she will always misunderstand him. LOL! He
needs to help her work towards her goal of accomplishing her mother's dream, that
way they can bond, and at the same time, Kalpi can eliminate that huge
responsibility that has been placed on her shoulders. </font>

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">Kalpi gives up too easily# she allows others to manipulate
her train of thought to make her feel useless: the bribery sequence and the
police officer's venom being two very significant examples. Raghav needs to
provide her with a support system that will ensure she gets her acquired space
aswell so that she does not feel suffocated by him and still enjoys him as a
person (forgetting his status and all). He needs to be her friend rather than
anything else right now. And rightly so,
she needs to either acknowledge his feelings, or tell him up front, I do not
want anything to do with you, I would rather keep our relationship strictly
professional. PERIOD!!! But if she is going to send the dude mix signals, then
she needs to bear the brunt of his over-protective nature. </font>

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">Their relationship is indeed very delicate right now, but I
do not believe a rock can cause any drift between them. Their relationship has
been founded ever since they were young: when he stood by her when others
suspected her. It was done out of friendship, one could argue, but that was the
foundation of their relationship. He has grown to admire and adore her, and not
it's her turn, afterall he did throw it on her that he loved her not knowing if
she felt the same. So space and understanding are vital on both of their parts,
if they truly want to be by each other's' side, as a lot of negative obstacles
are going to be thrown their way further down the line, and by then I want them
to truly understand each other's' feelings so as to close the door to a third
person for good..</font>

Damn! You made me laugh so much on some points you poured about love triangles and how Raghav going in search for her because definitely he might think she misunderstood him again 👍🏼

You pretty much summed up all the confusions here. I hope your words are true about that drift. It makes me worried when I see so many clashes between them. Their audacious interactions gives me Jerks. I am hoping not to see them reaching to the point where both just want to give up. It's a different thought but I do want to see them going back in their flashbacks and remembering how their bond use to be and how they supported each other in their hard times. I don't want Kalpi to be an incorrigible slave who would live her life serving for unrealistic people. Raghav definitely going to understand her this time if she speaks more than just stating the differences between them. Raghav has much more potential to give her the lift without really letting her know. Like we all said "they need to talk for their own benefits".

Originally posted by: nandinidavid96

Wonderful Post Buddy...loved it to the core. Thanks for the insightful perspective on Raghav & Kalpana.👏 RagNa lack understanding and trust which is crucial to any relationship, adding to that both are equally stubborn, hot headed filled with so much of attitude.

Today RagNa had a much needed face off; Kalpi badly needs to hear all that from Raghav. Though I appreciate the realistic practical streak in Kalpi she is highly prejudiced and judgemental with people. She is overburdened with family expectations, societal pressure, harshness and Kamala's partial rejection. She will never give up on her Aai ka sapna nor leave Raghav completely. The girl is not in love and commitment phobic to accept his love owing to her own insecurities and socio-economic differences. She is fiercely independent with too much of self respect yet very naive. She is just enjoying the new found feelings, basking in the warmth of Raghav's affection...she want to enjoy the feeling of being loved at her own pace without rejecting or accepting. All she need is little push and guidance from her Raghav Sir, given the time everything will eventually fall in place

And for Raghav, he is too obsessed and hell bent on hearing her yes, he is not ready to give her breathing space. His is impatient with the fear of losing dear ones. Though he is willing to put extra bit to make her comfortable, his efforts and actions are genuine... but he clearly lacks the perceptiveness to see through her POV.

Raghav is trying to make her feel his love & concern while Kalpi wants him to understand and appreciate her POV. Communication & Space is the key in RagNa relationship.

Now I am eagerly waiting for another dhamekedar conversation on Monday, might be on her favourite bench followed by sadakchap lunch date😆

Originally posted by: Manoshono

Damn! You made me laugh so much on some points you poured about love triangles and how Raghav going in search for her because definitely he might think she misunderstood him again 👍🏼

You pretty much summed up all the confusions here. I hope your words are true about that drift. It makes me worried when I see so many clashes between them. Their audacious interactions give me a jerk. I am hoping not to see them reaching to the point where both just want to give up. It's a different thought but I do want to see them going back in their flashbacks and remembering how their bond use to be and how they supported each other in their hard times. I don't want Kalpi to be an incorrigible slave who would live her life serving for unrealistic people. Raghav definitely going to understand her this time if she speaks more than just stating the differences between them. Raghav has much more potential to give her the lift without really letting her know. Like we all said "they need to talk for their own benefits".

Originally posted by: ShanUlas

dekhne me to bada sundar hai ye essay...will tell u how it tastes after.eating...err reading it

will come back soon.:)

While reading this line, you reminded me of Kalpi saying " sab sundar to lag raha tha dekhne main" when she praised the flower decorations done by Raghav In the office 😆

Originally posted by: _innocent_

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">Whats your name btw? I might end up calling you Mano😆or Shono, whichever you prefer😆😆</font>

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">My fear is Pakhi's love for Raghav and Kamla Maa's knowledge of it!! She has never truly understood Kalpi nor the effect her staying away from Kalpi has had on Kalpi, so I fear she will once again not understand her daughter thus becoming the biggest thorn in RagNa's future love isshttorry!! But I hope the makers prove me wrong, and show something hatke this time around.😳After all Kalpi needs to also experience her mother putting her first.😎</font>

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">Kalpi is speaking like a broken tape recorder, stating the same thing in 1o different ways!! She needs to really pour out her heart to him,and I guarantee anyone, he will automatically understand her stance and fear. Kalpi does not want to let Kamla down, and this is exactly what will happen if she decides to fall in love...she fears then she will not acquire that Ek Mutthi Aasman via her own hardwork. (thats kinda how am reading into her being grounded to her reality)</font>

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">Waise, I have faith in Raghav that he will never sacrifice for anyone and will ensure Kalpi does not either😛😛So dont worry Ragna will be each other's only😉regardless of the show being on Zee😆😆😆</font>

Name is Anum 😃 would love to know yours as well?

Pakki-Raghav-Kalpi are heading for the love triangle for sure. But more than Pakki's love, I am worried for Kalpi. Like we all just discussed about her being too naive and having soft corners for everyone. She will not think twice before sacrificing her love. Not exactly for Pakki, but for her aai. We know whom kamla will take a stand for. I have mentioned some of my thoughts on Shana's post which spoke about Vithal taking the initiatives first by supporting RagNa. If I ever had a choice to pick one parent for Kalpi then that would only be Vithal. His point of views and concerns are different and feels more genuine, where as Kamla's love and effection seems selfish. Don't get me wrong when i say this. I am not dragging or comparing a mother's love into this matter, but I am talking specifically about Kamla's friendly nature which lacks when Kalpi comes into the picture. She considers Pakki more than Kalpi in that sense. I will not be surprise if Kamla reluctantly gets involve in to support RagNa.

@Shona_Mayur... Haha! Trust me, am not one to complain about long comments, because I always end up with long comments! 😆😆 Thanks for the comment btw, I appreciate it!

Kalpi's way of communicating her feelings about how she feels zameen aur aasman can never meet can be wrongly perceived if one wants to think of only one perspective rather than the whole picture. In fact, I was quite irked at her constant division talk, but that is only because the dialogues seem to be going in circle. I want her to speak from her heart about her own situation and not to use third angle explanation. But regardless of that, I can totally see where she is coming from, and she has every right to be making those points. She does not want to allow herself to start dreaming, only to have her dreams shattered when it comes to Raghav. The system is corrupt because of officers like the one who got suspended. He needed to be taught a lesson, as he too disrespected another man's wife and daughter. And in all honesty, if we want to change the world, we ought to start from the smallest error, as we cannot change everything. Kalpi understood at the end that the officer needed to be punished but because of her Aai she chose to overlook her own new found stance, and stuck to her Aai's belief. Does being poor mean you have more morals than being rich? ( I say this because of Kamla's line today of just because you are working in an office you forgot the plea of the poor. No, Kamla...she realised the insults were not ones to be merely forgiven, wish Kamla had understood that and had not called that officer dada. But Kamla's nature is equivalent to saving the world and disregarding her own daughter's feelings, so I ought not to be surprised there.

Areee, the reason I say the usage of English should not be used to convey intelligence in Kalpi's case, is because the officer stated that a few English words meant nothing. And based on this point, I would have loved to see Kalpi blasting him and showing him his right place: a servant to the community: nothing more and nothing less. But the makers wanted to again highlight the status discussion in RagNa's relationship, I guess. Like we both said, she does not want to be a damsel in distress: she wants to be her own princess charming in dire circumstances, and why shouldnt she wish for the same.

I agree Raghav needs to back off for a while. He had time to come to terms with his feelings without anyone forcing anything on him, she hasn't. It was thrown upon her, and before she had time truly comprehend everything, he wanted a jawab. So munda needs to learn on being patient, if he really wants Kalpi. Kalpi aint your normal girl, she is someone burdened with a lot of responsibilities, and Raghav of all people know this very well, so I hope he understands her and gives her the space she needs, to allow her to decide for herself if she wants to be with him or not.

Originally posted by: _innocent_

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">Hey Anum! Nice interacting with you! I am Julie!😛</font>

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">Vithal is definitely going to play a big part further down the line in the Raghav-Kalpi and Pakhi equation. Kamla se toh I have no hope, and Vithal loves his rajkumari, so I have faith in him. Kamla is selfish😆she claims because Kalpi as her blood, she would not mind being deserted from a mother's love and what not, that is just crap that are not well digested in my book. I just want Ragna to build a very strong bond before any storm comes in their lives. They have so many enemies :(-</font>

Nice interacting with you too Julie. I hope we get more fascinating posts like this and make our discussions even better 😃

Kamla and her love is always confusing to me 😆 Let's leave that upto the upcoming track. CVS may just shock us 😕 😆

Kalpi is not transparent right from beginning..for instance she was, as it was shown..like she breaks down infront of him n shares her pareshaani of garmi...but for me it seemed shez taking advantage of the moment to push raghav away from herself...even raghav wasnt..but all of a sudden he turns into one..both are confused souls..kalpi reasoning her dream to raghav will be like end of show...he will simply tell even I want you to fulfill ur dreams...n may even go for cheesy line like ur dreams can walk barefoot in my eyes...! Kalpi was indirectly dependent on him...n as we all know raghav is her support system...but now love angle coming into picture he wanted to be her 24x7 support system..n protective..hence his entry in garmi dialogue justified.
In this show women empowerment is all n only for kamala..both kalpi n paakhi are abla naaris.
That hawaldaar is so OTT..and he seemed to be giant n kalpi bein petite couldnt stand upto him..well thats ok...reserved for hero's entry I guess!!
I also feel even kalpi craves to be woman of substance..her aais dream just adds terms n conditions.

P.s - this post of urs is pretty commendable n quite thoughtful..over all its a well put by you :)

awesome essay julz😆