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Posted: 12 years ago
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as an older sister myself, yes jeevika can scold maanvi but i believe that jeevika's character is easily maniupulated by her family where she takes most of their comments and opinions above maanvi's. Maanvi regardless of the situation takes jeevika's side even when she is wrong. Jeevika yes while supporting the truth shouldnt treat maanvi like a child and explain things rather than sacrificing much of her own and maanvi's beliefs to side with her inlaws (even when the in-laws are wrong) (THIS IS NOT ABOUT THE ABORTION SITUATION, this is general)
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Posted: 12 years ago
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She is by all means being a sensible bahu, but sister???????
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Posted: 12 years ago
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elder sisters are not just for being sweet n nice...they have the right to scold and guide their younger sisters too...and she isnt even being a bad sister...whatever she's doing its for Maanvi's benefit...
Jeevika is seeing how Maanvi is repeatedly getting scolded n insulted by dadaji n bua ji..so she doesnt want Maanvi's impression to be ruined..

i understand tht Maanvi wants the matter to be solved n she's curious about it...but it doesnt mean that what Jeevika has done is wrong

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Virat is also not supporting maanvi right... he didnt also believe her and said she might be mistaken just in a softer tone...but when Jeevika said the same thing she becomes wrong... ??? thats not fair at all...may be she scolded her but that was for her good only right... she does not want the vaderas to blame maanvi ... vanshika also told jeevika to tell manvi this... jeevika is only tried to protect manvi from the scolding of rest of the family... i am not saying maanvi or virat is wrong... mothers scold their daughters we all know.. does that mean she doesnt believe her or love her ???
Edited by RiDz_rox - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: RiDz_rox

Virat is also not supporting maanvi right... he didnt also believe her and said she might be mistaken just in a softer tone...but when Jeevika said the same thing she becomes wrong... ??? thats not fair at all...may be she scolded her but that was for her good only right... she does not want the vaderas to blame maanvi ... vanshika also told jeevika to tell manvi this... jeevika is only tried to protect manvi from the scolding of rest of the family... i am not saying ... mothers scold their daughter we all know.. does that mean she doesnt believe her or love her ???


it's not about comparing Virat and Jeevika in this thread.. the TM was talking about not to bash Jeevika.,,

here the main issues are

it is about Jeevika as a bahu Vs a sister
Jeevika scoldings Vs her understanding and trust in Maanvi

What good ?? If Jeevika scolded for good.. doesn't she know that Mannu..wouldn't rest until she finds something ,. did she for once try to trust Mannu and think about her..
doesn't Jeevika know that Mannu will not cook cock and bull stories with regards to her in-laws and such serious issues

agreed nothing wrong in scolding . since she is elder and worried and what not,.. but at the same time.. where is her understanding of Maanvi..Maanvi was looking at her with so much hope.. the irl first runs in to tell her di with the only hope and trust that her di will understand ..

really if J was protecting M from family .. so she should also scold her . and as such i have no issues with scolding ... but why to say .. dil. aatma.. dhadkan.. they sound so ridiculous when she can't stand up to her sister .. when Maanvi was looking in to her di's eyes expecting to see some support and trust in them.. all she gets is anger looks.. if J genuinely scolded M to protect from the family she should have the look of pain in her eyes and not that of irritation and anger for her sister..

scolding is fine.. you see pyar in her scolding .. then what .. all she should do is just scold..bas ho gaya badi behen ka farz... is it not her responsibility to understand Maanvi .. trust Maanvi who she considers her aatma...does she need proof to believe Maanvi's words..

when the whole family is scolding her Mannu .. wouldn't it be nice if J said something like this for Mannu " "I know my Mannu ..she doesn't say anything without proof.. why would she lie and what would she get by lying .. she must have seen something which is what she is talking about... ..let us give one chance to explain herself "

couldn't she protect M with these words.. couldn't she show her love by making peace and trying to stand between her sister and family rather than siding with her family
Edited by munnihyderabad - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Where has Jeevika said that she doesn't believe what Maanvi is saying. All she is doing is trying make her understand to stay out of other people's business especially Swamini's. Agreed that Jeevika could have explained to her calmly, but hasn't she already done that. Since she has got married, Jeevika has been explaining that to her.

I guess that would have been nice from Jeevika. But who mouth actually opens in front of Bua's.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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if she believes.. when M just looked at J after everyone left she would have had a sorry expression "that she scolded her before the family .. but she understands her"

she has no such expression..all M could see were glares of anger and irritation ..

if this is her love for M .. so be it ..I care naught for such love which cannot be expressed in eyes

Edited by munnihyderabad - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#28

Originally posted by: RiDz_rox

Virat is also not supporting maanvi right... he didnt also believe her and said she might be mistaken just in a softer tone...but when Jeevika said the same thing she becomes wrong... ??? thats not fair at all...may be she scolded her but that was for her good only right... she does not want the vaderas to blame maanvi ... vanshika also told jeevika to tell manvi this... jeevika is only tried to protect manvi from the scolding of rest of the family... i am not saying maanvi or virat is wrong... mothers scold their daughters we all know.. does that mean she doesnt believe her or love her ???


Hi RiDz... I accept ur view that virat is also not in support of her... But every time when Maanvi is telling him does he not listen to her and go with her... Whether it be the midnight storeroom scene, or the hotel envelope scene... He wants to trust her and believe her and he listens to her...But then when she is not able to provide the proof he advices her to leave it there... Does he not give her the time to hear her out.

And reading through all the posts , i have seen that no one is having a problem with Jeevika scolding Maanvi... The only problem tat every one has is why does jeevika not even want to hear maanvi out?

She is mother, father, sister and everything to Maanvi and i accept it...
Does a sister has only a right to scold? Does a mother not listen to wat a daughter wants to tell? Does a father not support his daughter?

You just do not want to listen to your sister, u do not want to understand her.. But u expect her to understand you and listen to you?

Fine that you claim that Jeevika has every right as a sister to scold Maanvi, But what abt her right and trust as a sister to hear out her younger sister...Where is her belief as a mother?

Vadheras do not know Maanvi.. And Jeevika very well knows tat bua does not like maanvi and she has shared it with Virenji also...But Jeevika knows her sister.. Then why not go along with ur sister... Why join the family and insist tat she is hallucinating and making stories.? Where is your instinct as a sister and mother here? Does your right as a sister only lets u scold her? Does your love as a mother does not let u listen her? Does ur love as a aatma and soul make u tell her she is making stories and is behind Swamini-innocent-Bua?

One cannot claim your rights based on your convenience...
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Posted: 12 years ago
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But she is irritated, how does that equate to not loving her?
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Posted: 12 years ago
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it's not about not loving her..she has all the love in the world for her Maanvi..

but doesn't trust and understanding mean anything in love.. is it all about scolding and hugs and kisses ..

in the spur of the moment .. everyone looses temper and scolds our loved ones.. but they do ,make it up .. after a good sleep of 8 hrs .. early in the Morning you expect to have a calm mind and leave aside you irritation and try to talk with your sister.. in a more placid manner.. that would have made up for the scolding .. and Maanvi would definitely feel the strength of the world if J believes and trusts her..

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