Viren Vadera...Taking the Steps towards Remorse!

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Okay, so i had NO plans of making a post today...but am making one coz have been very sweetly requested by Sarah (aa_mnhs) to do so. Sarah...this one's for you...hope u like it 😃
Before i begin...just one clarification. I'm taking off my critics hat in this analysis...coz, as per me..the Viren-Manvi scene could have been MUCHHH better than what we got today. Maybe, i was expecting a lot...esp. knowing the potential of the actors portraying these roles. And if i start writing about the shorcomings and the missing links in the scene...i wouldn't be able to do any analysis of what we saw. The BIGGEST put off were the dialogues. I was dicussing wid a friend earlier today, (in my yesterday's post reg. Tacker) abt the writer of the show...and today also, the dialogues took away the impact. What should've been there, wasn't...and there was a lotta inconsistency in the lines. LOL...did i say that I have taken off my critics hat? 😳😆
Without getting further carried off...i'm start wid my take. I'll try to be as positive as I can. Looking forward to feedback from u guys. 😳
So, the scene started with the Cancer dialogue again. Viren's eyes, as the scary thought of cancer penetrated in his mind, in his heart...and the same person, who was fuming with anger a minute back...there was immediate softness in those deep pools. The moisture of pain was now crowding them...and guilt of breaking the girl's heart time and again flowed down in the form of tears. Yes...it was extremely painful, shocking, devastating, unbelievable...but it was the TRUTH!
As his eyes were fixed on the girl...looking at her weak form, crying over her fate...his heart ached, and prolly cursed him for ALL the words that he had said to her since Jeevika's accident. There was softness n concern on his face...he tried to slightly move towards the girl...but didn't, or couldn't. His mind was phrasing words for him...but his senses seemed to have given up. He tried to say something...tried to join some words to form a sentence...but his voice prolly didn't support him...and by the time, he could say anything...Manvi ran from there. His eyes, overflowing with a lot of emotions followed her...but she had gone from there.
The lawyer, whose weapons are words n only words, stood there...startled n just sighing, taking deep breaths...as his Badi maa said abt Manvi bearing ehr pain alone...and Vanshika put her hand on his shoulder. Yes, the reality was extremely harsh to settle in.
As Virat pleaded to keep this news a secret from Jeevika...a tear made its way out of Viren's eyes. Mr. Vadera...THIS is what sister's love is all about...and you rasied a finger on THIS love!!! Its justice for u...divine justice...you inintentionally stabbed the young girl's heart with ur harsh words...not its ur heart's turn to bear the pain. And this plan is increased manifolds, coz of ur guilt.
Virat was standing in front of him, with his hands joined..while he made the request...but Viren's mind was divided...it had lost its focus...and his eyes went again n again towards the door...outside the confines of which, he had to do damage control.
And with this, he took small steps towards remorse...with a heavy heart! Just one reality...and the tables turned around for the Lawyer boy!
Viren reached Manvi's room and opened the door. His eyes searching for the girl...whose world had come crushing down some time back..but who was putting up a brave face till now. But now...her will power, that strength that she had accumulated in her... had melted as the reality was known by all. It was a weak moment for her...and her only outlet was crying her pain away. She sat on the floor, hugging her knees close to herself...as if holding on to her life.
Viren spotted her there...maybe through her sobs...and his words, his taunts, him cursing her, blaming her...his every word said to her...came back to him..hitting him hard. The pain indeed was unbearable...coz he had EARNED this pain himself...and din't knwo of any remedy to cure it.
The BEST moment for me was THIS...With heavy n small steps, eyes filled with tears...he walked towards the girl...and just fell on the floor, totally devastated, helpless n clueless. He didn't know what to do...didn;t know what to say...how to say...and just as if, on an impulse...he raised his hand and placed it on the young girl's head. His gesture saying, you're not alone now, Manvi...your Jeeju is there with you...for you..to protect you. Awww!! What else could be more beautiful than THIS! Words really weren't needed for this moment! As Manvi felt his hand on her head...she turned...and saw her jeeju there. Tears brimming in their eyes...both not knowing what to say...and she just crashed to hug him, with ALL the force she had. It was as if after travelling alone for a LOOONG journey...finally, Manvi found someone, who was there to accompany her in all the ups and downs from there on...and who better than an elder brother could this someone be for travelling on this difficult path. I absolutely LOVEDDD how Viren wrapped his arms tighly around her...bringing her closer n closer...ensuring her, that she is secure now...that her family, her elder bro is there, as her shield, as her guardian...giving her the much needed strength n support. BEAUTIFULLY done by Tacker n Nia. Hats off to BOTH of them. Every single expression here...the way they held on to each other...their eyes, facial expressions...this was the ONLY moment that choked me as well.
Manvi said sorry...for her own reason. And stroking her hair softly...Viren said the same word immediately back to her..."i've made a bigger mistake...so this sorry should come from me"
"Why didn't you tell me...why did you keep on listening to all my harsh words...bearing my hatred?"
"Jiju...i didn't tell u, coz u were already worried because of Di...i didn't want to increase your worry.."
The protective bro wanted to whack her for this stupidity..."how could you possibly think of hiding it...what do u think of urself? I'll never forgive you for this... "
The dialogue (prolly the only one) that i loved the most was...when Manvi said that i didn't want to give any pain to you...and Viren replied..."what about THIS pain. that i'm undergoing now?"...so very true. This pain is more unbearable than it could've been if Manvi told them/him about her cancer earlier. So...one point given to the writer for this 😆
After this...the talked shifted its gear.."lets go n tell Jeevika now..." and then...Manvi's confession...that its not just you who are lucky to have my Di...but its actually my Di who is fortunate n blessed to have a hubby like you. (this talk wasn't needed here as such...but chalo...the scene became a llitle longer coz of this. 😆
Manvi's lines about "going away"...i wanted more of those...or maybe, wanted them in a more serious tone...not in a lighter way.
And as the jeeju comforted his saali again..bechara Virat stood there, watching his lady love n bro, finally back from the war zone. The guy was relieved...but his heart is very much aching for Manvi.
Can't resist from sharing a couple of other weak links that didn't let the scene feel COMPLETE:
1. The dialogues of course. I would have LOVED Viren comforting the girl and assuring her that he won't let anything happen to her...that he was there for her...that he'll ensure the best possible treatment. for her. It is NO ordinary disease...its CANCER, CVs...the girl doesn't want a DULHA right now...she needs the BEST possible treatment.
2. Was it just me or anyone else also felt...that the lines didn't have any continuity. One line said..."i'm sorry.." n the next one was.."lets go n tell Jeevika.." Like REALLY? Is this ALL that Viren had to say
3. The "Tu" n "tujhey" from Viren to Manvi...now this is something new for Viren's character. He never said tu etc. It has always been tum...and tbh, this really irked me in the scene. Why can't the CVs rememmer the character sketches that they themselves have developed?
4. I dunno...somehow, after saying so many harsh things to the girl...going to an extreme...calling her heartless, her khoon safed, breaking all ties with her and what not...wasn't the apology very easy n short?? It was like...ok, w/e happened..i'm sorry...and lets go n tell ur di. And its exactly what they showed...next morning...the jeeju-sali behaving all normal in front of Jeevika. No wonder the girl was hell shocked to see her hubby n sis like this. Anyway...I wanted MORE from this apology...from Viren, Manvi...that would've meant MORE of Tacker for me and Nia (for her fans) 😆
Dunno what i've written in the post. Sorry for this long blabbering. Hope that u guys can make some sense out of it. Another thing..haven't proof read, so sorry for typos. 😳
Forgot to add my disclaimer...above of course is my POV. I'm sure a lot of u would've LOVED the scene n epi...and would not agree with my take. But well...i'm entitled to my pov...n i stand by it. Another thing...i had NO plans of bashin any character...n i don't think i have...still, if anyone felt bad...i can only apologize 😳
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: ayesha_80

Okay, so i had NO plans of making a post today...but am making one coz have been very sweetly requested by Sarah (aa_mnhs) to do so. Sarah...this one's for you...hope u like it 😃

Before i begin...just one clarification. I'm taking off my critics hat in this analysis...coz, as per me..the Viren-Manvi scene could have been MUCHHH better than what we got today. Maybe, i was expecting a lot...esp. knowing the potential of the actors portraying these roles. And if i start writing about the shorcomings and the missing links in the scene...i wouldn't be able to do any analysis of what we saw. The BIGGEST put off were the dialogues. I was dicussing wid a friend earlier today, (in my yesterday's post reg. Tacker) abt the writer of the show...and today also, the dialogues took away the impact. What should've been there, wasn't...and there was a lotta inconsistency in the lines. LOL...did i say that I have taken off my critics hat? 😳😆
Without getting further carried off...i'm start wid my take. I'll try to be as positive as I can. Looking forward to feedback from u guys. 😳
So, the scene started with the Cancer dialogue again. Viren's eyes, as the scary thought of cancer penetrated in his mind, in his heart...and the same person, who was fuming with anger a minute back...there was immediate softness in those deep pools. The moisture of pain was now crowding them...and guilt of breaking the girl's heart time and again flowed down in the form of tears. Yes...it was extremely painful, shocking, devastating, unbelievable...but it was the TRUTH!
As his eyes were fixed on the girl...looking at her weak form, crying over her fate...his heart ached, and prolly cursed him for ALL the words that he had said to her since Jeevika's accident. There was softness n concern on his face...he tried to slightly move towards the girl...but didn't, or couldn't. His mind was phrasing words for him...but his senses seemed to have given up. He tried to say something...tried to join some words to form a sentence...but his voice prolly didn't support him...and by the time, he could say anything...Manvi ran from there. His eyes, overflowing with a lot of emotions followed her...but she had gone from there.
The lawyer, whose weapons are words n only words, stood there...startled n just sighing, taking deep breaths...as his Badi maa said abt Manvi bearing ehr pain alone...and Vanshika put her hand on his shoulder. Yes, the reality was extremely harsh to settle in.
As Virat pleaded to keep this news a secret from Jeevika...a tear made its way out of Viren's eyes. Mr. Vadera...THIS is what sister's love is all about...and you rasied a finger on THIS love!!! Its justice for u...divine justice...you inintentionally stabbed the young girl's heart with ur harsh words...not its ur heart's turn to bear the pain. And this plan is increased manifolds, coz of ur guilt.
Virat was standing in front of him, with his hands joined..while he made the request...but Viren's mind was divided...it had lost its focus...and his eyes went again n again towards the door...outside the confines of which, he had to do damage control.
And with this, he took small steps towards remorse...with a heavy heart! Just one reality...and the tables turned around for the Lawyer boy!
Viren reached Manvi's room and opened the door. His eyes searching for the girl...whose world had come crushing down some time back..but who was putting up a brave face till now. But now...her will power, that strength that she had accumulated in her... had melted as the reality was known by all. It was a weak moment for her...and her only outlet was crying her pain away. She sat on the floor, hugging her knees close to herself...as if holding on to her life.
Viren spotted her there...maybe through her sobs...and his words, his taunts, him cursing her, blaming her...his every word said to her...came back to him..hitting him hard. The pain indeed was unbearable...coz he had EARNED this pain himself...and din't knwo of any remedy to cure it.
The BEST moment for me was THIS...With heavy n small steps, eyes filled with tears...he walked towards the girl...and just fell on the floor, totally devastated, helpless n clueless. He didn't know what to do...didn;t know what to say...how to say...and just as if, on an impulse...he raised his hand and placed it on the young girl's head. His gesture saying, you're not alone now, Manvi...your Jeeju is there with you...for you..to protect you. Awww!! What else could be more beautiful than THIS! Words really weren't needed for this moment! As Manvi felt his hand on her head...she turned...and saw her jeeju there. Tears brimming in their eyes...both not knowing what to say...and she just crashed to hug him, with ALL the force she had. It was as if after travelling alone for a LOOONG journey...finally, Manvi found someone, who was there to accompany her in all the ups and downs from there on...and who better than an elder brother could this someone be for travelling on this difficult path. I absolutely LOVEDDD how Viren wrapped his arms tighly around her...bringing her closer n closer...ensuring her, that she is secure now...that her family, her elder bro is there, as her shield, as her guardian. BEAUTIFULLY done by Tacker n Nia. Hats off to BOTH of them. Every single expression here...the way they held on to each other...their eyes, facial expressions...this was the ONLY moment that choked me as well.truly it was more than words ever cud say..
Manvi said sorry...for her own reason. And stroking her hair softly...Viren said the same word immediately back to her..."i've made a bigger mistake...so this sorry should come from me"
"Why didn't you tell me...why did you keep on listening to all my harsh words...bearing my hatred?"
"Jiju...i didn't tell u, coz u were already worried because of Di...i didn't want to increase your worry.."
The protective bro wanted to whack her for this stupidity..."how could you possibly think of hiding it...what do u think of urself? I'll never forgive you for this... "
The dialogue (prolly the only one) that i loved the most was...when Manvi said that i didn't want to give any pain to you...and Viren replied..."what about THIS pain. that i'm undergoing now?"...so very true. This pain is more unbearable than it could've been if Manvi told them/him about her cancer earlier. So...one point given to the writer for this 😆
After this...the talked shifted its gear.."lets go n tell Jeevika now..." and then...Manvi's confession...that its not just you who are lucky to have my Di...but its actually my Di who is fortunate n blessed to have a hubby like you. (this talk wasn't needed here as such...but chalo...the scene became a llitle longer coz of this. 😆
Manvi's lines about "going away"...i wanted more of those...or maybe, wanted them in a more serious tone...not in a lighter way.manvi is always lyk that...one moment she speaks about her illness..the very next she tries 2 laugh it off...she never wants 2 burden ne1...it was the same with her rishikesh family...with virat..n now viren..once the initial shock is over...she tries 2 keep it light..
And as the jeeju comforted his saali again..bechara Virat stood there, watching his lady love n bro, finally back from the war zone. The guy was relieved...but his heart is very much aching for Manvi.
Can't resist from sharing a couple of other weak links that didn't let the scene feel COMPLETE:
1. The dialogues of course. I would have LOVED Viren comforting the girl and assuring her that he won't let anything happen to her...that he was there for her...that he'll ensure the best possible treatment. for her. It is NO ordinary disease...its CANCER, CVs...the girl doesn't want a DULHA right now...she needs the BEST possible treatment.viren din't need 2 speak out that he would be there 4 her...the moment he kept his hand on her head...it was clear..her jiju would never ever leave her again..
2. Was it just me or anyone else also felt...that the lines didn't have any continuity. One line said..."i'm sorry.." n the next one was.."lets go n tell Jeevika.." Like REALLY? Is this ALL that Viren had to say.the minimalist nature of the sorry was actually sumthing i lykd...they knew in their heart just how much the other was suffering n a plethora of high voltage sorry dialogues wsnt the need of the hour...infact that little scolding was endearing...
3. The "Tu" n "tujhey" from Viren to Manvi...now this is something new for Viren's character. He never said tu etc. It has always been tum...and tbh, this really irked me in the scene. Why can't the CVs rememmer the character sketches that they themselves have developed?as we grow comfortable in a relationship..the way of address becums informal...tu sounds more brotherly...
4. I dunno...somehow, after saying so many harsh things to the girl...going to an extreme...calling her heartless, her khoon safed, breaking all ties with her and what not...wasn't the apology very easy n short?? It was like...ok, w/e happened..i'm sorry...and lets go n tell ur di. And its exactly what they showed...next morning...the jeeju-sali behaving all normal in front of Jeevika. No wonder the girl was hell shocked to see her hubby n sis like this. Anyway...I wanted MORE from this apology...from Viren, Manvi...that would've meant MORE of Tacker for me and Nia (for her fans) 😆
Dunno what i've written in the post. Sorry for this long blabbering. Hope that u guys can make some sense out of it. Another thing..haven't proof read, so sorry for typos. 😳

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Posted: 13 years ago
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I will have to agree, after rewatching the episode once I came on the forum (I always watch the episode before coming here lol because theres a lot of critics and a lot of fans that sway my opinion on an episode before i actually watch it, or i end up more disappointed than I would have been..)

I thought the actual dialogues were sub-par. Definitely needs more words there, or no words at all since Karan and Nia was pretty much conveying the whole scene through their emotions...so I'll have to agree with you there...script writer needs to seriously up his/her game and get with the program...SOON!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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it feel grt to c ur post...
kk m gonna keep my reply short ,.. agree to everything u said... it was a grt scene bt d dialogues were not so impactful like they were supposed to b...n ya d "tu" seemed out of place for viren.. they need to maintain consistency of their characters.. n they should concentrate on d dialogues...the dialogues have so much to do in making a scene impactful..
bt .just wanna say that u knw i have actually never cried in this show...m not one of those who cries in every emotional scene,,.. i dint got time to watch d episode today so i watced it just now...n i actually had tears in this scene where viren walks in her room.. ,without saying nething just puts her hand on her head assuring that he is there for her... n hug each other.. wow...i seriously loved this gesture of viren ...
n ya nia n karan were brilliant...n my fav karan was as usual fab...i wont start on him now cause i never knw when to stop while talking abt karan...kk my reply got quite long...
Edited by fairyland13 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Thank you sooo much for this! I feel honored knowing that this one was for me :D and guess what, i logged in to the forum just to see if you'd replied on your other post, and as i logged in, i got such a beautiful surprise!
Coming to the post. You actually wrote the same i felt about today's scene. There could've been a lot more to the long awaited apology. As you and some others said earlier, the dialogues have lost the impact they used to have, once upon a time ;) and the 'tu' irritated me as well! I wonder why the writers, who've given birth to the characters, forget how they had developed them.

Another disappointment is that they drag so much unnecessarily (well its a daily soap afterall, we've to bear with that), and where we expect a nice long scene, like today, its always done in a hurried manner.

And how can they take a disease like cancer so lightly. It's something really serious, but it gets funny how they're 'looking for a dulha for her and not good medical treatment'...

I really have no idea what i've written up there as im too sleepy. I better end here, other wise this'll work as a 'lori' for you too ;)

Thanks and love
Sarah
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: aa_mnhs

Thank you sooo much for this! I feel honored knowing that this one was for me :D and guess what, i logged in to the forum just to see if you'd replied on your other post, and as i logged in, i got such a beautiful surprise!
Coming to the post. You actually wrote the same i felt about today's scene. There could've been a lot more to the long awaited apology. As you and some others said earlier, the dialogues have lost the impact they used to have, once upon a time ;) and the 'tu' irritated me as well! I wonder why the writers, who've given birth to the characters, forget how they had developed them.

Another disappointment is that they drag so much unnecessarily (well its a daily soap afterall, we've to bear with that), and where we expect a nice long scene, like today, its always done in a hurried manner.

And how can they take a disease like cancer so lightly. It's something really serious, but it gets funny how they're 'looking for a dulha for her and not good medical treatment'...

I really have no idea what i've written up there as im too sleepy. I better end here, other wise this'll work as a 'lori' for you too ;)

Thanks and love
Sarah



I just noticed my post has just complains about the episode and i completely forgot to mention how beautifully the scene was enacted by the two!! Regardless of the loopholes, the actors never fail to impress us by their skills. I feel more proud being a tacker fan every time i watch a new scene of his. The versatality he showed in today's episode alone, no ordianary actor would be able to do in his whole career. Take a bow tacker n nia for your performances today :)
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Hayye hayye is this the only way I will get to talk to you? If I read your post and reply to it? :| Just kidding haha!

I have some stuff to say about the episode as well. The apology scene was a little weak for me and it didn't meet my expectations. Will write in details later.

And I left you offliners! Check karo!! (:
Edited by ..-Jia-.. - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: ..-Jia-..

Hayye hayye is this the only way I will get to talk to you? If I read your post and reply to it? :| Just kidding haha!

I have some stuff to say about the episode as well. The apology scene was a little weak for me and it didn't meet my expectations. Will write in details later.

And I left you offliners! Check karo!! (:

OMG...JIAAA!!!! Is this YOUUU??? 🤗🤗🤗
Arey, what do i do if u've forgotten me completely? It seems ALL of u have taken out Ashu from ur memory. Acha, now don't get gussa...coz I REALLY AM gussa wid u. Where have u been?? And wait...i didn't get ANY offliners from u...
LOL..is this some kinda joke, Jia? My RCQ will write in detail?? Now this i'm looking fwd to 😉😆
Great to see u here...hope all's well on every front 😉
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Sorry, guys...i have to reply in my OS thread...so, will try n write back individually here, tomorrow. Thanks a lot for reading n commenting...u guys are the best!
@ Sarah...My whole effort of making the post paid off. Glad that u liked it...My reply in detail, tomorrow. 😊
@ ita_04...we seem to be having a difference of opinion on some points here. I completely respect your's...but for me, these were the things that didn't let the scene create the desired impact. I edited my post with the disclaimer...obv, my analysis is based on my POV..n i genuinely found these things lacking in today's epi. Thank for reading my long post...i realyl welcome different view points (not bashing), coz they tend to generate health discussions.😊
Edited by ayesha_80 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: ayesha_80

OMG...JIAAA!!!! Is this YOUUU??? 🤗🤗🤗

Arey, what do i do if u've forgotten me completely? It seems ALL of u have taken out Ashu from ur memory. Acha, now don't get gussa...coz I REALLY AM gussa wid u. Where have u been?? And wait...i didn't get ANY offliners from u...
LOL..is this some kinda joke, Jia? My RCQ will write in detail?? Now this i'm looking fwd to 😉😆
Great to see u here...hope all's well on every front 😉



Yes it is me! 🤗🤗

No I could never forget you meri pyaari baji! Shame on me if I ever forget you. Hayye hayye let me hold my ears *hold ears* IM SORRY!!! I have been so busy with uni. Just finished with my finals! I sent you offliners two weeks ago telling you that I had exams. And I sent several offliners after I got back from Pakistan.

Haha I will write something, maybe not in details but something :|😆

<3 Alhumdulilah everything is going well! I hope everything is going well at your end baji!

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