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Posted: 9 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: MrDarcyfan




My take is at that point Suman had realised that the promise she made to Ramnath has made a huge impact on their relationship. Damaged it to a great deal. Also, her promise to Ramnath was to not confess HER feelings. Not to not listen to Shravan's! She even said it to Ramnath. How will you stop him?


THAT is why Ramnath did what he could by pretending to Shravan that he supports him confessing. But warned him that Suman is like Nirmala. But on the other hand, goes to blackmail Suman to stay out of Shravan's life. So he remains good in his son's eyes and Suman looks bad. The fact was Suman could not TELL Shravan what his Father did. Because so blind is he in his love for his Dad, he CANT see the truth! That is why even when it came to Nirmala, when Suman tried to tell him his Dad lied about why their marriage broke, he didn't listen to her. He threatened to cut her off from his life. So she knew there was NO point trying to tell Shravan she is doing this at his own Father's say so!


But she always felt that Shravan will prove his Dad wrong and come and confess to her! THEN she will accept him and won't listen to anyone. She wanted to get her sister married without a glitch and that is why initially she avoided Shravan. Right after Ramnath put this condition when Shravan called her for coffee, she KNEW it was to confess. But that was BEFORE she went to Ramnath's office and met him and returned the cheque. So THAT is why on that day she avoided Shravan. She didn't know what to do. She knew if she went to see Shravan and he confessed then she will have to give him an answer, and if her answer is yes, then Ramnath will cause trouble for PREEKAR marriage. Therefore she merely bought time by not going to see him that day. If that makes sense?


But later, she told Ramnath that SHE won't confess, but she can't stop Shravan and she won't. So Ramu continued to give Shravan Pep talks and poison his mind against "women like Sumo and Nirmala". His trick worked and Shravan always saw everything Suman did as negative and egotistic. He still loved her, but was starting to not like her at all. They were constantly at loggerheads, and finally we are now in the place we have ended up!




Nicely put! But I don't believe she knew that day that shravan was going to confess. Because the way she's acting is as if shravan doesn't know he's in love with her imo
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Posted: 9 years ago
#42

Originally posted by: spacenoxx

Ego self-respect debate becomes moot when she was actually expecting Shravan to come confess at PCT. She even has a monologue that he made all that investor thing happen via Adi or some such.

Essentially she admits that Shravan is involved in the whole thing. If she didn't accept help when directly offered, why would she accept indirect help. I think we established that it was because the second time, investors were involved

When initially Shravan offered she could have simply said i can't accept for free instead let's have proper contract where I pay monthly installments like any other business deal.

It's ego when she doesnt even try to think of alternate methods and refuses immediately. You could also say that why couldn't Shravan think of alternate methods. But CVs need something to create an MU with, na.😆 I don't understand how that's ego though?


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Posted: 9 years ago
#43

Originally posted by: --Amulya--



LOL... you might be the 1st supporter of Preeti and that too in comparison with Suman... Preeti is one useless dumbo character, totally good for nothing...no one could understand till date as to how could a guy like Pushkar love her?? if at all he loved her for being dumb...

Shraman are not better off without each other... you're too new to the story that you're not at all invested in it... Shraman are ruined right at that very moment when they are not in each other's life anymore... CV's tried their best to show us this particular point in the last track

They can err but still have to forgive each other as there's nothing left in their lives worthy to continue living happily if they're separated... hence they are EDKV



Haha about that point about Preeti. But honestly Pushkar isn't much better. During the time when Nanu came with Preeti's proposal: such a mumma's boy that he barely spoke a word in front of his mummy dear. I kept on thinking why Preeti wanted to marry this spineless gadha, but I guess made for each other!
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Posted: 9 years ago
#44

Originally posted by: spacenoxx

Ego self-respect debate becomes moot when she was actually expecting Shravan to come confess at PCT. She even has a monologue that he made all that investor thing happen via Adi or some such.

Essentially she admits that Shravan is involved in the whole thing. If she didn't accept help when directly offered, why would she accept indirect help.

When initially Shravan offered she could have simply said i can't accept for free instead let's have proper contract where I pay monthly installments like any other business deal.

It's ego when she doesnt even try to think of alternate methods and refuses immediately.



Uff.. this PCT issue with Shravan is one typical issue

She can't accept it from Shravan as Ramnath was the one who intentionally made Suman loose PCT through Shravan... she can never explain her reasons to Shravan and whenever he offered her PCT he made it like his dad will do this favour on her... when she clearly knows that there isn't any favour involved in it rather it can be another plan of Ramnath, how could she accept it?? just like all the planets in the solar system revolve around the sun similarly all the problems in Shraman's life are connected to Ramnath
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Pushkar is another typical character who has selective amnesia and also selective spine 🤣


He's spineless in front of his Ramnath sir only... and he knows too well how to manage his mom and Preeti's relationship but again he would become mute if his Ramnath sir is involved in any matter
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Posted: 9 years ago
#46

Originally posted by: --Amulya--



Uff.. this PCT issue with Shravan is one typical issue

She can't accept it from Shravan as Ramnath was the one who intentionally made Suman loose PCT through Shravan... she can never explain her reasons to Shravan and whenever he offered her PCT he made it like his dad will do this favour on her... when she clearly knows that there isn't any favour involved in it rather it can be another plan of Ramnath, how could she accept it?? just like all the planets in the solar system revolve around the sun similarly all the problems in Shraman's life are connected to Ramnath



But then how would it explain how she took it indirectly from Shravan(from Aditya but Adi had to take it from Ramnath/shravan first) later?
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Posted: 9 years ago
#47

Originally posted by: --Amulya--

@ -Trishh-

Pushkar is another typical character who has selective amnesia and also selective spine 🤣


He's spineless in front of his Ramnath sir only... and he knows too well how to manage his mom and Preeti's relationship but again he would become mute if his Ramnath sir is involved in any matter


Fully agree that Pushkar is spineless withRamnath. Come to think of it, every one becomes spineless when it comes to Ramnath.

Only kamini chachi is exempt. I love her char.

he manipulatesb shravan emotionally and suman by other means. But then suman also easily gets manoeuvred by Nanu.

Whatever stopped her from saying she loves somebody else. Would that have killed Nanu?

Also when a char is blamed its always the CVs not the char itself. That's how I see it.
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Posted: 9 years ago
#48

Investors weren't in the picture when Sumo was expecting Shravan at PCT. She however was aware the Shravan was involved in the whole thing and still accepted it.

All she needed was a semblance of contract. It took Adi 1 min to convince her. If she was really about self respect she would have made sure Shravan wasn't involved but she accepts his involvement and hence simply ego. CVs failed to show it as otherwise.
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Posted: 9 years ago
#49

Originally posted by: --Amulya--


Its not Suman's character which is irritating rather I will take a stand on belief that its lack of skills in CV's to not able to make viewer connect with the character... and its usual habit of many female fans to empathise more with male lead of the show

Ego and self-respect has a very thin line of difference... whatever Suman has is self-respect and it shouldn't be categorised as ego... Suman took the responsibility of marrying off her cousin well which would at least partially repay her gratitude towards her family and she din't want any external help involved in it and that external help includes Shravan as he's a family member of the groom... where he would become the last resort for help... It would be unfair too if she accepts monetary help from Shravan after rejecting his dad. Suman is a character filled with values which we often find hard to stand for especially when situations are too hard. I think she's the best female character created for Indian TV till date but again lack of skills in CV's came in between...


isnt this a little too generalized? some fans do take male lead's side, but some fans cannot side with the female lead when she repeatedly shows very little empathy for the male lead and behaves quite rudely with him for no reason...

suman's reasons are understandable, but if you see the manner in which she has communicated with him, then it has been done very poorly... shravan is not that difficult or unreasonable that she cannot communicate respectfully or politely with him...she is abrupt... she doesn't show up when he wants to meet her and when he is looking for an explanation... she doesn't apologize for making him wait, but instead behaves rudely with him... that is ego.. she has a side to her that she has helped her family, but treating a friend so poorly is simply not done...if she has self-respect, so do others.. why can't she be aware of that? shravan is no angel... the guy has flaws, but in most of the communication between the two it is suman who continues to do an extremely poor job... when he is attempting to talk to her instead of putting her pride aside and having a normal conversation she behaves rudely with him... when he is rude and mean then she remains silent and her self-respect goes out the window..

suman to her family is selfless and giving, but as a friend she treats her friend rudely and defends her behaviour as self-respect...
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Posted: 9 years ago
#50

Originally posted by: spacenoxx



Also Sumo has to pay, for her to accept it, else its charity which she wouldn't have accepted. So if she is paying and it's not going back to Malhotras then who is it going to. If it's going to X and X is not paying back to Malhotras/Shravan then it's cheating.

Most importantly there cannot be a contract which doesn't include the Malhotras and Shravan obviously hasn't signed any such. If the land still belongs to the Malhotras then it's a tri-party agreement and must have Shravans signature, along with Sumo and investors if any. If it's 2 bi party agreements then there should be one with Sumo and investors (which was shown) and more importantly one with investors and Shravan/Malhotras. Without the later the former cannot exist.

I think this is what irks Shravan that what he gave away for free was accepted by Sumo when presented by Aditya but not when he himself tried to.


Hello friend:) let me tell u what i think i know. Aditya wanted to buy that property from ramnath and he asked other details (cost etc ) to finalize with shravan... So it is assumed that aditya paid for the plot to malhotras.. He also found an investor who would probably pay the rent to himself.. Badically he just i troduced an additinal layer to collect the profit share from sumo and pass it on to himself as rent ... I dont see any poblem in this...
I think there will be a conflict with aditya as pct land will be owned by him now that the marriage is broken. Shravan did not give the plot to aditya for free that i am sure. It is just that they didnot show all the formalities
Edited by dlavanya - 9 years ago

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