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Posted: 9 years ago
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I very much agree. Shravan is showing his emotions..and he has been betrayed by his mother. Mothers are a base pillar of life and when that is broken a human will always have that biased view about women. And Suman very well knows that...I feel Suman is acting like she has no idea how sensitive and caring and attached Shravan is towards her. And how come she every time can be rude/insensitive/uncaring/selfish when it comes to Shravan. Not even once has she said anything to Aditya all this time. I am sorry but whatever Ramnath did doesn't give Suman the right to treat Shravan this way. And this in no way shows that Suman love Shravan at all. No matter how awful things go...when you love someone you have that care and no matter how much you try it worries you. And all she cared about is don't make me regret loving you...bulls***! Is she not seeing the seething pain in Shravan eyes? Is she not seeing how he has lost control over himself!! Everyone was shocked around Shravan but Suman...no she was not shocked she was just clueless and ashamed of being there.
AND Why was she there in first place? A girl's sister doesn't go to her sasural on first night!! Suman is somewhere blaming what Ramnath did on Shravan instead of thinking that Shravan has no idea how his father is. Suman is so cought up in feeling helpless and Mahan that she has stopped caring for Shravan. And trust me when you know someone from your childhood and know how sensitive they are and how in their anger their outbursts are then you know them and accept them and then its love...but here just cause Shravan said no longer we are friends in anger Suman has taken it to heart as if everything that has happened after doesn't show that he still believes that he has right on her.

Dosti ho ya ek tarfa pyaar nibhana padta ha Suman madam!! I so thought ke Suman will finally see the light but no...now I can't bear her on screen with her confused and hurt expressions. My heart goes out to Shravan..he feels so lost and betrayed and truly needs someone to care a little.
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Posted: 9 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: cullen-luvr

I agree with this post 150%.

I can't stand Suman anymore. 🤢🤢🤢

I feel bad for Aditya and Shravan.
and what Shravan said about Sumo being a combo of the three evil ladies = highlight of the episode

Sumo and Dev Dixit's mom (from Kuch Rang) have so much in common. They both act like bichari's but are secretly manipulative and self absorbed. All they do in every episode is mess with people's minds and act clueless.


hahahah you took my words...I too have started seeing similarities between Ishwari and Suman and can't stand them both...I mute when they talk cause they both know the person they love but act so clueless and are so egoistic themselves that they hurt the one they love the most. Manipulative...yess...so true.
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Posted: 9 years ago
#33

Originally posted by: cullen-luvr


Oh my God, that is such a good point! I didn't even realize until you mentioned it - if Sumo really loved Shravan, she would have been jealous and devastated by Shravan's act. Instead, she is worrying about her ego and embarrassment. I could only see two possible explanations for her behaviour. Either she was never in love with Shravan to begin with and it was all just infatuation OR she loves Shravan but is super narcissistic and superficial to actually care about his feelings.


OMG how it skipped my mind...yesss how come Suman wasn't jealous at all...more and more I am realizing that Suman never loved Shravan. She was a attention seeker and taking advantage of Shravan in childhood and now too doesn't care about Shravan but how his acts reflect on her self respect and ego.
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Posted: 9 years ago
#34
Totally agree...
I too can't connect with this Suman.
It will be so difficult for anyone to leave 10 year old love
But Suman is doing it so easily
She even not sensing his pain..
She is taking it as something that hurt her alone.
Not thinking about Shravan..
I'm disappointed with her
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Posted: 9 years ago
#35

Originally posted by: Saman07



Suman is not handling the situation tactfully. Instead she is also running away from the situation like how Nirmala did 10 years ago. I feel like shouting "stand-up guys"... for how long will you play according to Ramnath for ruining Shravan. Moreover, both claim that you love Shravan.. are they just words or do you really mean it..??

When Shravan spoke harsh.. yu were giving gyan.. really!!! hwinsensitive are you... when you were supposed to speak up.. you were mute and he was venting out his pain and you started giving gyan..

InitiallyRamnath used Nirmala's shoulder and ruined his life which you are very well aware of and now he is doing the same thing with you.. using you and ruining Shravan's life again and still you are mute and behaving clueless.. disgusting yaar..

According to episode 110 "Shravan sirfmerabachpanka dost nahi hai mera pyar bhi hai..." "nahi rok payi mai apne app ko" "aur aage bhi Shravan ko koi bhi takleef hogi.. tho mai apne aap ko nahi rok pavungi.." WERE THEY JUST WORDS OR DO YOU REALLY MEAN IT

Absolutely disappointed with Suman's character..CVs has ruined it so far.. donno aagekya hoga..



You are so right her words and her actions are not same. Sharvan is tight I know he is rude but she is just abla nari and just not telling him she is not even a friend for sharvan. I hope cvs clears her behaviour and she speaks up or break down I am so bored. It's Namik that is keep the show going and we all are watching bcz of him Warna tu it's impossible to digest this crap
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Posted: 9 years ago
#36
I don't think her character is ruined... She is always been like that... hardly realises her mistakes except when she read Shravan's letter and understood why shravan insult her in reunion party and when kamini chachi clears the mess about PCT ( because after what shravan did after her accident she still believed that shravan destroyed her PCT not even once realises that he can never do things like that)... So she always thinks that she is right never realises her mistakes... About sumo's character I think at this moment she is suman not sumo
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Posted: 9 years ago
#37
I can't believe that women still find it so hard to understand the constraints of other women...
Since his return, Shravan has had issues trusting her. I agree she made a big mistake when she was like 15 but he initially held that over her even when they were fully grown adults. He has even admitted to her he cannot trust women because of how his mother left him. She had to almost jump of a balcony to prove she was different.

And it looks like with the audience too, Suman always has to prove or justify her actions. Shravan's built up anger and resentment towards Sumo started after Ramnath blackmailed Sumo and slowly poisoned his son's mind against her and all women in general. One of his biggest issues is why she would not accept the PCT land...which btw was not from Shravan but a "gift" from Ramnath, who is the only reason she cannot tell Shravan how she feels about him.

He also never asked Aditya how he convinced Sumo to accept PCT, if he had, he would have realised that Aditya didn't offer it as a gift but a business deal. At least this guy tried to respect her self-respect. Does anyone really not see that if Sumo had accepted those papers from Ramnath then she would've by extension accepted monetary compensation for staying away from his son? And by that, he would be right about women being opportunistic gold-diggers.

Shravan does not know all this. But we the audience do, so why is she being seen through his rose-coloured glasses. Are we as an audience not more intelligent than that?

Furthermore, with Aditya's proposal everyone in the show admitted it was out of the blue but SHRAVAN NEVER ASKED her directly how this happened. He has essentially accused her of using him and pretty much being a gold digger for agreeing to marry Aditya.

Shravan is not the only one who was raised without a parent. Sumo lost both. She is far more alone than him because he has his dad and Pushkar. The only person in the world who loves her unconditionally is pretty much on his deathbed and her sister's wedding is only happening because she was blackmailed, the expectations Kamini (and Shravan, who's answer to everything was his chequebook) have put on her pushed her to the brink.

When Aditya brought PCT to her, she thought this was Shravans idea and gave him all the credit, she was so full of hope when he came to visit her. Can you imagine how crushing it is when that eternal friend says the things he said to her at PCT? Of course she is going to think he doesn't want to have anything to do with her!

Considering all the emotions she is going through and NO ONE (except Aditya ironically + Preeti) has thought to ask her how she is feeling, she is meant to put all she's going through aside because her rishta has bruised his ego? He feels the love of his life has cheated him but the guy never once told her how he feels. We all know why she couldn't say anything and except that one failed coffee date, has he ever tried again? what was his excuse? You can be upset but you can't be so spiteful towards a woman who you don't even know felt the same way about you. And say if she didn't have feelings for him? We would have crucified her "cos he's such a wonderful guy who loves her" so automatically she has to love him back? Has this woman got no choice?

Suman is stuck between a rock and 1000 hard places. All of them cicrumstantial, it's not her fault Ramnath blackmailed her, or that her grandfather got sick or Kamini didn't like the wedding preps or that she got emotionally sucked into this rishta.

Shravan has not once stopped to think about her during the wedding festivities. He left her hanging in the dance floor, PCT and in the party. He was hurt so he made sure she was too. And because Suman did not go tit-for-tat with him while he berated her, being mature enough to hold off. And because her prime concern is that in his anger he becomes someone she can't recognize, we are so quick to lay all the blame on her and her ego.

Let's face it, no matter how much we "progress", it seems even women agree that a man can have his ego but a woman cannot have even have some self respect but that she must always succumb/apologise/understand/be accountable to the ego of man...

Personally, that's the one part of our culture I find absolutely abhorrent
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Posted: 9 years ago
#38

Originally posted by: kripsy

I can't believe that women still find it so hard to understand the constraints of other women...

Since his return, Shravan has had issues trusting her. I agree she made a big mistake when she was like 15 but he initially held that over her even when they were fully grown adults. He has even admitted to her he cannot trust women because of how his mother left him. She had to almost jump of a balcony to prove she was different.

And it looks like with the audience too, Suman always has to prove or justify her actions. Shravan's built up anger and resentment towards Sumo started after Ramnath blackmailed Sumo and slowly poisoned his son's mind against her and all women in general. One of his biggest issues is why she would not accept the PCT land...which btw was not from Shravan but a "gift" from Ramnath, who is the only reason she cannot tell Shravan how she feels about him.

He also never asked Aditya how he convinced Sumo to accept PCT, if he had, he would have realised that Aditya didn't offer it as a gift but a business deal. At least this guy tried to respect her self-respect. Does anyone really not see that if Sumo had accepted those papers from Ramnath then she would've by extension accepted monetary compensation for staying away from his son? And by that, he would be right about women being opportunistic gold-diggers.

Shravan does not know all this. But we the audience do, so why is she being seen through his rose-coloured glasses. Are we as an audience not more intelligent than that?

Furthermore, with Aditya's proposal everyone in the show admitted it was out of the blue but SHRAVAN NEVER ASKED her directly how this happened. He has essentially accused her of using him and pretty much being a gold digger for agreeing to marry Aditya.

Shravan is not the only one who was raised without a parent. Sumo lost both. She is far more alone than him because he has his dad and Pushkar. The only person in the world who loves her unconditionally is pretty much on his deathbed and her sister's wedding is only happening because she was blackmailed, the expectations Kamini (and Shravan, who's answer to everything was his chequebook) have put on her pushed her to the brink.

When Aditya brought PCT to her, she thought this was Shravans idea and gave him all the credit, she was so full of hope when he came to visit her. Can you imagine how crushing it is when that eternal friend says the things he said to her at PCT? Of course she is going to think he doesn't want to have anything to do with her!

Considering all the emotions she is going through and NO ONE (except Aditya ironically + Preeti) has thought to ask her how she is feeling, she is meant to put all she's going through aside because her rishta has bruised his ego? He feels the love of his life has cheated him but the guy never once told her how he feels. We all know why she couldn't say anything and except that one failed coffee date, has he ever tried again? what was his excuse? You can be upset but you can't be so spiteful towards a woman who you don't even know felt the same way about you. And say if she didn't have feelings for him? We would have crucified her "cos he's such a wonderful guy who loves her" so automatically she has to love him back? Has this woman got no choice?

Suman is stuck between a rock and 1000 hard places. All of them cicrumstantial, it's not her fault Ramnath blackmailed her, or that her grandfather got sick or Kamini didn't like the wedding preps or that she got emotionally sucked into this rishta.

Shravan has not once stopped to think about her during the wedding festivities. He left her hanging in the dance floor, PCT and in the party. He was hurt so he made sure she was too. And because Suman did not go tit-for-tat with him while he berated her, being mature enough to hold off. And because her prime concern is that in his anger he becomes someone she can't recognize, we are so quick to lay all the blame on her and her ego.

Let's face it, no matter how much we "progress", it seems even women agree that a man can have his ego but a woman cannot have even have some self respect but that she must always succumb/apologise/understand/be accountable to the ego of man...

Personally, that's the one part of our culture I find absolutely abhorrent


Are you implying that all the women here that support shravan and criticize Suman are doing so because she is a woman ? If so, you are throughly mistaken. The issue here is with the inconsistent characterization of Suman , so let's not make it a gender issue. Nobody here wants her to stoke shravan's ego, if she can communicate effectively enough that should suffice. And yes supporting Suman does not make you more of a feminist than any one of us.
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Posted: 9 years ago
#39

Originally posted by: kripsy

I can't believe that women still find it so hard to understand the constraints of other women...

Since his return, Shravan has had issues trusting her. I agree she made a big mistake when she was like 15 but he initially held that over her even when they were fully grown adults. He has even admitted to her he cannot trust women because of how his mother left him. She had to almost jump of a balcony to prove she was different.

And it looks like with the audience too, Suman always has to prove or justify her actions. Shravan's built up anger and resentment towards Sumo started after Ramnath blackmailed Sumo and slowly poisoned his son's mind against her and all women in general. One of his biggest issues is why she would not accept the PCT land...which btw was not from Shravan but a "gift" from Ramnath, who is the only reason she cannot tell Shravan how she feels about him.

He also never asked Aditya how he convinced Sumo to accept PCT, if he had, he would have realised that Aditya didn't offer it as a gift but a business deal. At least this guy tried to respect her self-respect. Does anyone really not see that if Sumo had accepted those papers from Ramnath then she would've by extension accepted monetary compensation for staying away from his son? And by that, he would be right about women being opportunistic gold-diggers.

Shravan does not know all this. But we the audience do, so why is she being seen through his rose-coloured glasses. Are we as an audience not more intelligent than that?

Furthermore, with Aditya's proposal everyone in the show admitted it was out of the blue but SHRAVAN NEVER ASKED her directly how this happened. He has essentially accused her of using him and pretty much being a gold digger for agreeing to marry Aditya.

Shravan is not the only one who was raised without a parent. Sumo lost both. She is far more alone than him because he has his dad and Pushkar. The only person in the world who loves her unconditionally is pretty much on his deathbed and her sister's wedding is only happening because she was blackmailed, the expectations Kamini (and Shravan, who's answer to everything was his chequebook) have put on her pushed her to the brink.

When Aditya brought PCT to her, she thought this was Shravans idea and gave him all the credit, she was so full of hope when he came to visit her. Can you imagine how crushing it is when that eternal friend says the things he said to her at PCT? Of course she is going to think he doesn't want to have anything to do with her!

Considering all the emotions she is going through and NO ONE (except Aditya ironically + Preeti) has thought to ask her how she is feeling, she is meant to put all she's going through aside because her rishta has bruised his ego? He feels the love of his life has cheated him but the guy never once told her how he feels. We all know why she couldn't say anything and except that one failed coffee date, has he ever tried again? what was his excuse? You can be upset but you can't be so spiteful towards a woman who you don't even know felt the same way about you. And say if she didn't have feelings for him? We would have crucified her "cos he's such a wonderful guy who loves her" so automatically she has to love him back? Has this woman got no choice?

Suman is stuck between a rock and 1000 hard places. All of them cicrumstantial, it's not her fault Ramnath blackmailed her, or that her grandfather got sick or Kamini didn't like the wedding preps or that she got emotionally sucked into this rishta.

Shravan has not once stopped to think about her during the wedding festivities. He left her hanging in the dance floor, PCT and in the party. He was hurt so he made sure she was too. And because Suman did not go tit-for-tat with him while he berated her, being mature enough to hold off. And because her prime concern is that in his anger he becomes someone she can't recognize, we are so quick to lay all the blame on her and her ego.

Let's face it, no matter how much we "progress", it seems even women agree that a man can have his ego but a woman cannot have even have some self respect but that she must always succumb/apologise/understand/be accountable to the ego of man...

Personally, that's the one part of our culture I find absolutely abhorrent


👏 I agree with your post Shravan still lives in a past and Sumo was a teenager back then who must be going or having trouble living with mamijee, all has seen mamijee's behaviours towards Suman. Seems Shravan's mind is still stuck when he was 15 that is why he never saw the changes in present Suman.

In this relationship or friendship both are wrong equally, both failed in communicating with each other and also not trying to understand each other's pov.

Right now Suman's hands are tied and she has her own way of coping with stress, she closes herself .

If Suman is giving him mix signals, so was Shravan who never really told her out right that he loves her. Sometimes words with actions do matter, we know Shravan loves Sumo but does she know. No right so blaming her for this wrong, when ever I come to this forum everyone keeps on blaming Suman and never sees where she is coming from.

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