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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Malika

I do agree that Preeti is a weakling but honestly if there is any person in that house who even slightly cares for Sumo other than nanu(who is not in a condition to bear such shocking revelations) its daboo and Preeti. Since daboo is a kid so we are left with only Preeti. Rest all are just worthless be it mama-mami or masi-mausa. Nirmala is the biggest panauti so no benefit telling her. The best part about telling Preeti is that Sumo has sacrificed Shravan for Preeti and Pushkar's relation so this burden will definitely bother Preeti till she reveals it. Also she is not emotionally that strong to keep this truth to herself for long and she being in Malhotra house now and being a live witness to Shravan's pain will take no time to spill the beans. You may call it Sumo's weak moment or the tendency to share secrets with your peers/siblings...But CVs have chosen the perfect person to know this truth. JUST THE PERFECT!! From here this truth will reach all the right places - Pushkar, Kamini and finally Shravan 😃


I agree Preethi is the perfect person to spill this truth as Ramnath is far way from doing it himself. Also, as you said she will not be able to keep things to herself for long.

But I think it would have been better if the makers built up the scene well, where suman had no other way then telling the blackmail thing to Preethi. For now it feels like Preethi asked about her love for Shravan and Suman told her Ramnath story out of no where. Any way.. I'm glad someone else knows the truth now..and that is Preethi.

BTW where is Daboo..Its been ages we didn't see him!!
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Posted: 9 years ago
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The writers have been very inconsistent with sumo's character , she starts off as a being a selfish teenager , always disrespectful towards shravan but 10 years later has no recollection of remorse for her behavior. She is eager to meet shravan and expects the same enthusiasm from him forgetting the bitter note that they parted on. She grows up to be independent girl with a lot of self respect and refuses to get any help whatsoever from her childhood buddy, shravan . But when it comes to Aditya , her character has no qualms whatsoever accepting the dress or PCT for that matter. And now confiding in Preeti beats the whole purpose of her giving up on shravan. She might as well let shravan know what his daddy is upto . I am positive ms.preeti will lack a backbone and may or may not open her mouth till shravan is driven to commit suicide. Wouldn't that be wonderful if preeti just put her foot down and refuses to go ahead with the wedding. Pushkar can then decide if he has the balls to defy his ramnath sir and still marry preeti.

I am in the minority here, but I felt the CV's did a shoddy job with Sumo's characterization and will continue to do so.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Just saw the episode. I think it was Sumo's weakest moment but we should also remember that she was caught red handed that too right after she was forced to make the worst decision of her life.
But from the plot perspective we have to look at it a little differently, Preethi is the weakest link right now and it is the weakest link that cracks.She has been shown to be innocent and is not money minded like her mother. But this was coming long time, Suman had to tell someone the whole truth, it has been killing her inside. Shravan took it out on her. Naanu of all people in the world is forcing her to accept such a big decision. And I am not talking about Adithya/Nirmala at all.

But the Cv's have not brought it on suddenly, there were 2 instances already. After Kamini asks for the receipts, she comes up to Sumo and asks her why Shravan spoke to her like that. Also, she was witnessed the eye lock. Pushkar had already hinted about this to her. In fact it was because of the bet they started bonding right ? I don't think it is sudden and I expect Sumo to have her weak moments too. Thankfully she is not a Devi mata. But Sumo recovered quickly, she realised that she may have said a little too much because she was too emotional at that point.

I didn't like Sumo speaking about the ehasaan that he Maama Maami have done for her, is it an ehsaan that she is doing on her sister then ? I was not convinced with that but I am willing to give Sumo a breather for what she has been going through.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Actually when I wrote the post...my point was when u etch a character it has a certain moral compass when dealing with a set of people...and then the character takes a U-turn...it takes some time to digest from how the character progressed. The way I would have done this made Preeti hear a damning part of a convo between Ram and Sumo and then Preeti dug for details...it would have been far more convincing...that's my point..
I will give a small nuance in today's direction which I found jarring.

Shravan's total comfort around Aditya during the baraat scenes...what was that? It was not nonchalance...it looked as if the two are some old friends...Shravan should have looked indifferent to Aditya not pally...where is the director and where is the actor's sense of character in that scene? 😕 It was a director's failure in that scene.

In comparison, Preeti was completely in character..when Shravan teased her...look at her discomfort...that is being in character...being in the zone...I wonder are there are diff directors handling diff scenes?

sorry i have rambled long...maybe a sense of disappointment which I could not put a finger to...😊



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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: sanfan

Actually when I wrote the post...my point was when u etch a character it has a certain moral compass when dealing with a set of people...and then the character takes a U-turn...it takes some time to digest from how the character progressed. The way I would have done this made Preeti hear a damning part of a convo between Ram and Sumo and then Preeti dug for details...it would have been far more convincing...that's my point..

I will give a small nuance in today's direction which I found jarring.

Shravan's total comfort around Aditya during the baraat scenes...what was that? It was not nonchalance...it looked as if the two are some old friends...Shravan should have looked indifferent to Aditya not pally...where is the director and where is the actor's sense of character in that scene? 😕 It was a director's failure in that scene.

In comparison, Preeti was completely in character..when Shravan teased her...look at her discomfort...that is being in character...being in the zone...I wonder are there are diff directors handling diff scenes?

sorry i have rambled long...maybe a sense of disappointment which I could not put a finger to...😊




I agree with you, the pally moment between Adi and Shravan was really out of place. There are quite a few moments these days, out of place or unfinished. Pushkar's conversation with Shravan twice was incomplete, I don't know if it is the editing or the direction. Sometimes continuity is lacking completely. What I think is that there are too many characters, and the interplay between the characters is not as well defined as it used to be earlier. The finesse that was there in EKDV before is definitely lacking.
Anyways, I am sorry if my earlier reply came out in strong defence of Suman, it wasn't the intention 😊
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: nith125

Just saw the episode. I think it was Sumo's weakest moment but we should also remember that she was caught red handed that too right after she was forced to make the worst decision of her life.

But from the plot perspective we have to look at it a little differently, Preethi is the weakest link right now and it is the weakest link that cracks.She has been shown to be innocent and is not money minded like her mother. But this was coming long time, Suman had to tell someone the whole truth, it has been killing her inside. Shravan took it out on her. Naanu of all people in the world is forcing her to accept such a big decision. And I am not talking about Adithya/Nirmala at all.

But the Cv's have not brought it on suddenly, there were 2 instances already. After Kamini asks for the receipts, she comes up to Sumo and asks her why Shravan spoke to her like that. Also, she was witnessed the eye lock. Pushkar had already hinted about this to her. In fact it was because of the bet they started bonding right ? I don't think it is sudden and I expect Sumo to have her weak moments too. Thankfully she is not a Devi mata. But Sumo recovered quickly, she realised that she may have said a little too much because she was too emotional at that point.

I didn't like Sumo speaking about the ehasaan that he Maama Maami have done for her, is it an ehsaan that she is doing on her sister then ? I was not convinced with that but I am willing to give Sumo a breather for what she has been going through.


the weak moment is the only plausible explanation but then again if it is so...there is no reflection from Sumo about what has happened...I am not saying that u can't say this to Preeti...well seen in a way why should Sumo subject herself to these threats by Ram...but u know the story would not have reached the point of confrontation else...also it was believable that Sumo would put her family before herself...thats her character...so there goes...

anyways I am fine now...this is my first rant on IF...I have been a huge fan of the story telling style of EDKV...I still hope for a last Hurray...I hope it shows the flashes of brilliance that sustained this serial in the initial 70-80 episodes...exactly the length I envisaged for the serial...They have stretched and gone in circles and are perhaps looking for a way out...😆😆 even the actors look a bit out of sorts lately...
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Posted: 9 years ago
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@beagleboy - My issue is not with the confiding...my issue is why did Sumo say this to Preeti...if the CVs are thinking of it only as a way to get the matter across without a valid explanation of why Preeti when she is going to go thru the guilt[/B][B]

Sorry, I misunderstood you there. Yes, it did strike me as odd that she was putting in an awkward spot the very person she set out to protect. One other explanation could be that (at least to me), sumo is a person of contrasts and she is never consistent. She fluctuates between extremes and often her actions seem impulsive and immature, Ill thought out decisions that have debilitating consequences- as we see with Shravan. While I would not blame her entirely, she contributed in a small way to the final outburst.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: beagleboy

@beagleboy - My issue is not with the confiding...my issue is why did Sumo say this to Preeti...if the CVs are thinking of it only as a way to get the matter across without a valid explanation of why Preeti when she is going to go thru the guilt[/B][B]

Sorry, I misunderstood you there. Yes, it did strike me as odd that she was putting in an awkward spot the very person she set out to protect. One other explanation could be that (at least to me), sumo is a person of contrasts and she is never consistent. She fluctuates between extremes and often her actions seem impulsive and immature, Ill thought out decisions that have debilitating consequences- as we see with Shravan. While I would not blame her entirely, she contributed in a small way to the final outburst.


When I wrote this post...I never expected I would write so much on the issue...

@bold...in fact I started writing a piece on ironies of love yesterday...but went off the boil and so did not post...Yes, Sumo is a fascinating character for the very things u mentioned...She is a character whose actions speak louder than words...and the actions can be topsy-turvy if they are in relation to Shravan😆. On Monday when young Sumo told her to forget Shravan and she nodded...my pupils just popped out becos I knew I was watching a fab scene unfold in front of me...a kind of vintage EDKV...






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Posted: 9 years ago
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So, preeti wanted to know the truth or she would not get married. Preeti's las am and the letter there force Sumon to confess to her that she loves shravan. The natural question after that would be why doesn't she tell him about her feelings. I guess if they showed the whole conversation this is how the truth would come out in front of Preeti. The bait was PP marriage the real issue is Ramnath doesn't want Sumon as his DIL and Sumon didn't want to come between the father and the son knowing what Ram means to Shravan. Preeti would feel less guilty if that's how the matter was presented but it's about time Preeti takes some burden too. She has had an easy ride till now.

Let's see if it leads to something or not.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: sanfan

Actually when I wrote the post...my point was when u etch a character it has a certain moral compass when dealing with a set of people...and then the character takes a U-turn...it takes some time to digest from how the character progressed. The way I would have done this made Preeti hear a damning part of a convo between Ram and Sumo and then Preeti dug for details...it would have been far more convincing...that's my point..

I will give a small nuance in today's direction which I found jarring.

Shravan's total comfort around Aditya during the baraat scenes...what was that? It was not nonchalance...it looked as if the two are some old friends...Shravan should have looked indifferent to Aditya not pally...where is the director and where is the actor's sense of character in that scene? 😕 It was a director's failure in that scene.

In comparison, Preeti was completely in character..when Shravan teased her...look at her discomfort...that is being in character...being in the zone...I wonder are there are diff directors handling diff scenes?

sorry i have rambled long...maybe a sense of disappointment which I could not put a finger to...😊





Lovely to see you after so long, Rekh! 🤗

I get your concerns ..and the way you wrote about how Preeti should have known would have been better, I feel.

It was Sumo's weakest moment, indeed...but it made no sense that she had to give out even the Ramnath bit...Would have sufficed if she said things just didn't work out...because Preeti knowing would make her feel bad and esp at this juncture and it did...I was also not comfortable with the creative discretion here.

Shravan and Aditya- Didn't find that odd at all...Shravan is on a high...he is overconfident...he is not bossy, but the way he sat there and declared his decision and his dad's to postpone the wedding...beautifully fitting the change in his character, I felt...👍🏼

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