Shravan-Sumo and an Outburst... Is that all?

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Posted: 9 years ago
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So I saw the episode...

Did like Namik's acting and Shravan's outburst:as in all the things he said, because he has bared his wounds completely, and his shattered heart now lays bare in front of her...

Didn't like how he physically expressed his anger - I know it is for drama quotient, but he should not have thrown his food.

Did like how Shravan voiced his each and every hurt. There is a reason he thinks like this - and accuses Suman so. She always was shown to be "image" conscious, so it goes well with how everything from a young age till date has played into this big showdown. She liked taking favors from him, but didn't want people to know, and now as she has grown up she does this "self respect" jaap again and again, but clearly so it seems she just wants to protect this image in front of everyone. She has also, as such never "stood up" for Shravan's friendship - because she always stands up for her self respect, except that one time where she gave Shravan the credit for handling Khosla and Varun's cheque. I am not saying she has not done anything for Shravan, I am saying how everything that has happened recently during the wedding has made her more of a "my way or highway" type of a person who is willing to do zero compromise, and that she will often use any "means" to get what she wants and who changes rules (lehnga instance, where she literally defends Adi) as per her convenience.

Shravan has been mean, angry, but compared to Suman pretty vocal about where Suman stands in his life. Yes, he has not expressed his love yet, but he has always maintained where she stands in his life... Shravan has forgiven her for many many things (even without her apologizing or being proven wrong, like Nirmala's case where he eventually appreciates that she just may have a different opinion and she didn't mean to hurt her).

Didn't like the Sumo-Sumo conversation.My biggest rue with Suman is that she never introspects - she is very "jhalli" or superficial in her approach to Shravan. She understands he is stuck in his past, and sympathesizes but doesn't empathesize. She doesn't empthasize with Shravan in the Nirmala incident, nor does she understand when he called her selfish etc., the first time around and says he misses her (she is sad but happy and insensitively more curious to know if he misses her the next second), and even today, her immediate reaction is, "Shravan ne ek minute mein dosti khatam kar di, aur mein... ye soch ke baithi thi... ki wo". So all in all today she concludes he doesn't love her. She has not noticed how much he has done for her, and in a way she doesnt know or trust his love either (expects him to see hers) in things that he has done for her. Heck she does not even put two and two together to see that their friendship can't just be a reason why Ramnath would even blackmail her so... and needed a silly jealousy track to assure herself of his love. She has been constantly hurting Shravan today, and suddenly today she is questioning WHY SHRAVAN REACTED THIS WAY?

Did like how Nirmala said she will talk about alliance after marriage (so I take it as after Aditya talks to Suman). I guess the urgency will come from Nanu's critical state, not because she wanted to do it... So I guess she is a sensible person who did want to go about this the right way than not.

Hated little Suman's advice to Suman completely. If this is how Suman thinks, then clearly, this is exactly why Shravan thinks Suman is selfish. I mean, Shravan ko apni zindagi se fenk de... like seriously?

We all know, tomorrow the alliance will come up. KEY QUESTION IS will Suman introspect, or

Emotionally given into what Nanu wants?
Even think once how this relationship will affect Shravan? Or because he said everything is finished today, she accepts that as is, and decides to do it nonetheless, because now that friendship is over, she doesn't owe it to shravan to not marry Nirmala's son.
Or think that this is the son and the person because of whom Shravan was deprived of a mother's love for so many years, and of all the guys in the world, he doesnt have to be the one she marries...

Her yes, will be the final nail in the coffin.

Key thing is marriage is still remaining, so there is going to be some ShraMan interaction, in store for us...

Sometimes, I do feel Ramnath is right. Suman and Shravan may love each other, but they are not meant for each other. Because if they are, then there has to be a commitment from both to ignore their "egos" and work towards the relationship. I may be in the minority here, but in this regard, Shravan has always been the bigger facilitator and provider in this relationship... and Suman the taker. Suman has been the more happy go lucky, so I am not saying she doesn't have demons to fight or responsibilities, but despite being an orphan, she has to deal with financial responsibilities (not lack of love) and Shravan on the other hand, has had to deal with a lot more, alone. I am not defending anyone... but often love can get lost and buried under other things. Passion, love or friendship is not enough - and at least till now Suman has clearly shown that she can do anything but "give" up her self respect (which is border line ego, just like Shravan's outburst is border line psychotic) for this relationship. She can do it for her family, but not Shravan (not yet, atleast).

Let's wait and watch...

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Posted: 9 years ago
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yeah .. u expressed well .. these two complicated , pig headed people. i say ..
one needs to move on from past , other needs stop running away from past

one doesnt let go of past and another doesnt want to look into past..

one is so rooted in the past and other doesnt see beyond present moment ..

one keeps the hurt burning near his heart other doesnt want be in a situation where she could be hurt ..

both have abandonment issue but way different way of handling it ..
one doesnt want to let go and other believes if mine, will always come back..

ego, pain , confusion, hurt , betrayal , expectations , loyalty ,friendship and love .. all emotions are in display


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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: --BLRbabe--

yeah .. u expressed well .. these two complicated , pig headed people. i say ..

one needs to move on from past , other needs stop running away from past

one doesnt let go of past and another doesnt want to look into past..

one is so rooted in the past and other doesnt see beyond present moment ..

one keeps the hurt burning near his heart other doesnt want be in a situation where she could be hurt ..

both have abandonment issue but way different way of handling it ..
one doesnt want to let go and other believes if mine, will always come back..

ego, pain , confusion, hurt , betrayal , expectations , loyalty ,friendship and love .. all emotions are in display






Brilliant! You said it 👏
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Posted: 9 years ago
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One more thing that I didn't like was that throughout he kept talking about his "dosti". I was hoping that atleast in his outburst he will say "pyaar". But I guess that is because they wanted Sumo to take a clue that Shravan doesn't love her and that now their friendship is also over (so to justify Sumo's saying yes to Adi may be?)... But, it was sad...
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Actually Mallika's post made me rethink my analysis and interpretation of Sumo's behavior today. She was so cold and didn't react because she never expected this to happen. She was not upset about the accusations or the damage to PCT but about the death of their friendship. All along she was convinced that when Shravan realizes his love he will come to her, her only hesitation that he only thought of her as a friend. And today even that friendship ended. Before this she always thought him to be her apna but today she lost him , and that too so easily. She even says out loud, Aur main soch Rahi thi Ki Tum Mujhe (pyaar karte ho)... Perhaps she didn't even have time to process this and was hit by the second tragedy. So the only disappointment remains the nonchalant and apathetic advise from younger sumo, which also may be justified because suman's impression of Shravan is that he is a bhagoda... Today their inner demons won, their love and trust on each other lost. Shravan's trust broke when she took the papers and her when he ended their relationship. Suman always took Shravan for granted I guess, knowing he doesn't give up on people. So she implicitly trusted him to be always there for her.

I just don't know how they are going to move from such a negative and high tension state as today to enjoying a shaadi one day after?
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Agree with the fact that sumo was cold...pain is there but the self introspection was absent...i want sumo to give a hard thought to whatever has happened between them and then decide. It willl show her evaluation of er feelings...
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Originally posted by: Joyness

Agree with the fact that sumo was cold...pain is there but the self introspection was absent...i want sumo to give a hard thought to whatever has happened between them and then decide. It willl show her evaluation of er feelings...


Agree. Sumo never, ever introspects. Even after the whole Nirmala reveal fiasco, she didnt see Shravan's pain. She seemed to get it that Shravan is stuck in the past, and then Ramnath put forth his condition, but had Suman introspected, she would not have used jealousy to make Shravan realize his feelings.

What was Ramnath's condition? She should stay away from Shravan? Or she can be friends and not cross her limits. Like does she think she could play the condition by actually behaving unfriendly (and rude, insensitive) with him but then use jealousy to make him realize his love - and that this was check mate for Ramnath, because she didn't break her promise... in that case, my friend, what Shravan said today about her is true - she worries about her pseudo image, more than she worries about people. I mean, is she fooling herself? If she doesn't mind Shravan realizing his feelings shouldnt she just have been nice and friendly to him? You can't have the cake and eat it too, right?
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Originally posted by: ...MonaCo...


Agree. Sumo never, ever introspects. Even after the whole Nirmala reveal fiasco, she didnt see Shravan's pain. She seemed to get it that Shravan is stuck in the past, and then Ramnath put forth his condition, but had Suman introspected, she would not have used jealousy to make Shravan realize his feelings.

What was Ramnath's condition? She should stay away from Shravan? Or she can be friends and not cross her limits. Like does she think she could play the condition by actually behaving unfriendly (and rude, insensitive) with him but then use jealousy to make him realize his love - and that this was check mate for Ramnath, because she didn't break her promise... in that case, my friend, what Shravan said today about her is true - she worries about her pseudo image, more than she worries about people. I mean, is she fooling herself? If she doesn't mind Shravan realizing his feelings shouldnt she just have been nice and friendly to him? You can't have the cake and eat it too, right?


even me didnt get the choti sumo's 'advice' .. it was little off so i started to think .. maybe this sumo was not the friend of shravan but that lost girl who wanted to have fun, make superficial friends and not think too deep just to ward off her loneliness .. remember sumo's own description of herself before she met shravan .. it was shravan's friendship that made her realize value of real friend ..

so it was like her insecurity of being alone after being branded a shallow friend making her feel "dont think deep now it will only cause more hurt forget about it just sail by for now" . ...

doesnt really explain much but that what i felt 😕

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